Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:03:38PM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote: > Graydon wrote: > >> 250mm is long? That's not reliably enough even for feeder birds. >> [...] >> -- Graydon, who figures 800mm is pretty short, most of the time > > I'm with you. I find my (Sigma) 400 limiting sometimes, even with the > "digital crop factor". I'd love to have the Pentax FA* 600, but they're > hard to find and harder to afford. :-) One nice thing about the 60-250 is how well it pairs with the 250-600 :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
IF, the camera's firmware did not recognize the lens, it would ask for a focal length to be put in for SR recognition. IF the user put in 250mm, that would be the focal length reported by the EXIF. The lens, however, might have reported a focal length of 196 mm when the shot was taken, if that was what it was zoomed to. Only explanation I have. On Apr 29, 2009, at 20:57 , Bob Sullivan wrote: Graydon, My zooms report the actual focal length in use when the shutter snaps. If you crank the FA70-200 to 142mm, the EXIF data says 142mm, not 200. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Graydon wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:38:27PM -0500, Bob Sullivan scripsit: Graydon, Couldn't that be the 60-250mm set at 196mm? It could be, but that's not what the EXIF says: Focal Length: 250.0 mm (35 mm equivalent: 375.0 mm) Hyperfocal Distance : 557.18 m Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
Graydon, My zooms report the actual focal length in use when the shutter snaps. If you crank the FA70-200 to 142mm, the EXIF data says 142mm, not 200. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Graydon wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:38:27PM -0500, Bob Sullivan scripsit: >> Graydon, >> Couldn't that be the 60-250mm set at 196mm? > > It could be, but that's not what the EXIF says: > > Focal Length : 250.0 mm (35 mm equivalent: 375.0 mm) > Hyperfocal Distance : 557.18 m > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Graydon" Subject: Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:03:38PM -0400, Doug Franklin scripsit: Graydon wrote: 250mm is long? That's not reliably enough even for feeder birds. [...] -- Graydon, who figures 800mm is pretty short, most of the time I'm with you. I find my (Sigma) 400 limiting sometimes, even with the "digital crop factor". I'd love to have the Pentax FA* 600, but they're hard to find and harder to afford. :-) And reported to be something of a challenge to carry! No question about that. Without a good backpack to carry one, it becomes a very stationary lense. I would about kill for a 800/8 mirror lens with the current generation SMC coatings. Don't think there's any hope of Pentax going there, alas, but one can dream. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Nest building birds
Smart Ass! On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: > Bob Sullivan wrote: >> >> Here are 2 more shots from the Alligator Farm. >> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/AlligatorFarm#5330286993298135714 >> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/AlligatorFarm#5330287033341238978 >> >> I'm still working on identifying what they are... > > I'm no expert, but they appear to be birds. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:38:27PM -0500, Bob Sullivan scripsit: > Graydon, > Couldn't that be the 60-250mm set at 196mm? It could be, but that's not what the EXIF says: Focal Length: 250.0 mm (35 mm equivalent: 375.0 mm) Hyperfocal Distance : 557.18 m > As for needing something longer for birds, > I learned with film that I couldn't afford it. > Mirror lenses have those annoying rings, and Well, yes, but sometimes that's a good thing: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/gHWNE6NG773wSkon9nD5PQ?feat=directlink and sometimes -- most of the time, it seems, with birds -- it just doesn't matter: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/-Nt9Mn_GSoCyK_TLEP22VA?feat=directlink Mirror lenses also have that initially-infuriating but often very useful paper-thin focal plane, that allows focusing through the vegetation. > anything bigger/faster than A400/5.6 is $. Yup. > For birds, you need to set-up in a hide. > My current alligator farm photos used A300mm f4, > A300mm with a AF1.7, or a AF70-200/2.8. > The situation was very favorable, but that's what you need. If it's possible to set up in a hide, certainly. Most of the places accessible to me don't allow that as an option. Even with the 10 foot distance available when lurking behind the bookshelves and taking pictures of the goldfinches at the feeder on the balcony, 300mm is not a lot for songbirds. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
- Original Message - From: "Graydon" Subject: Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots 250mm is long? That's not reliably enough even for feeder birds. The 60-250 struck me when I heard about it as a good zoo lens, but it isn't what I'd even start to call long. -- Graydon, who figures 800mm is pretty short, most of the time 800 is on the short end of the you can never have too long a lens club. I have the 600 f/5.6 and in a way it's a little frustrating because it is long enough to be really needy of good technique and a solid tripod, but not long enough for the birds around here a lot of the time. I need to get out with it more though. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
Graydon, Couldn't that be the 60-250mm set at 196mm? As for needing something longer for birds, I learned with film that I couldn't afford it. Mirror lenses have those annoying rings, and anything bigger/faster than A400/5.6 is $. For birds, you need to set-up in a hide. My current alligator farm photos used A300mm f4, A300mm with a AF1.7, or a AF70-200/2.8. The situation was very favorable, but that's what you need. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Graydon wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 03:13:39PM -0600, William Robb scripsit: >> From: "Margus M?nnik" >> > Random tourist (Tallinn Old City is full of 'em) shot at f/5.6. I >> > was going to shoot a church tower in background and she simply >> > walked into the frame... >> > http://nagi.ee/photos/photo_sizes.php?id=10408771&size=o&album_id=148643 >> > (full size, untouched jpeg from camera) >> > >> > So, boys and girls, we're doomed. There's nothing to whine about >> > Pentax (long zoom) lenses quality any more - all those hundreds and >> > thousands of crappy pictures will be our own fault. >> >> Damn. This kind of things might make me change my plans > > It's a gorgeous picture, but I do wonder about a couple bits of the > EXIF, particularly > > SR Result : Stabilized > Shake Reduction : Unknown (15) > SR Half Press Time : 4.25 s or longer > SR Focal Length : 196 mm > > That would seem to indicate that SR was on, that the lens is unknown to > the firmware, and that the actual focal length is less than 200mm > despite the lens being set at 250mm. (Which I understand is a plausible > result of distance-to-subject in some designs.) > > I would be curious as to anyone else's interpretation of that EXIF > information. > > -- Graydon > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Nest building birds
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:23:32PM -0500, Bob Sullivan scripsit: > Here are 2 more shots from the Alligator Farm. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/AlligatorFarm#5330286993298135714 > > http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/AlligatorFarm#5330287033341238978 > > I'm still working on identifying what they are... Tricolored Heron, "Egretta tricolor" in adult breeding plumage. Very nice colours in the plumage, too; those are good pics. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K 7 D FFN
On Apr 29, 2009, at 20:23 , Ken Waller wrote: On Apr 29, 2009, at 13:37 , Miserere wrote: Don't worry JoMac, you'll feel better once the K-7 is in your hands. You do have a spare $1,500, right? :-) If I did, I'd go to GFM first, then worry about a new camera body. My hoarding mindset has made it difficult to sell my older camera equipment. I really have no need for any of my film cameras. I have to let all my frozen film go. First $4500 can have it all. Cameras, Film, cases, film holders. backs, lighting, etc. Off List. I'll be waiting. Don't hold your breath ... ;+] You are a meany! Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Nest building birds
Bob Sullivan wrote: Here are 2 more shots from the Alligator Farm. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/AlligatorFarm#5330286993298135714 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/AlligatorFarm#5330287033341238978 I'm still working on identifying what they are... I'm no expert, but they appear to be birds. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Horses
Nice capture - the 'S' fence is a nice touch. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" Subject: PESO - Horses We came upon these horses during a country walk near Hook Norton, Oxfordshire last weekend. Lovely countryside, and The Sun Inn in the town does a marvelous pint of Hooky Bitter. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9077174 (K10D and DA 50-200) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K 7 D FFN
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Joseph McAllister" Subject: Re: K 7 D FFN On Apr 29, 2009, at 13:37 , Miserere wrote: Don't worry JoMac, you'll feel better once the K-7 is in your hands. You do have a spare $1,500, right? :-) If I did, I'd go to GFM first, then worry about a new camera body. My hoarding mindset has made it difficult to sell my older camera equipment. I really have no need for any of my film cameras. I have to let all my frozen film go. First $4500 can have it all. Cameras, Film, cases, film holders. backs, lighting, etc. Off List. I'll be waiting. Don't hold your breath ... ;+] 2009/4/29 Joseph McAllister : I feel so small. I was fooled and am now debunked... Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso: Nest building birds
Here are 2 more shots from the Alligator Farm. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/AlligatorFarm#5330286993298135714 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/AlligatorFarm#5330287033341238978 I'm still working on identifying what they are... Comments appreciated. Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: April PUG?
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Toralf Lund" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 4:00 PM Subject: Re: April PUG? Scott Loveless wrote: Looks like some nincompoop forgot to upload it again. He, he. I sort of suspected that it was plain forgetfulness... Maybe we should start casually mentioning the PUG a bit more often as a reminder to you. Now I wonder where the May PUG is...? -+} Don't want to nag about it, of course, since I'm happy someone else has volunteered to preparing the gallery, if you know what I mean... - T It's online now. http://pug.komkon.org We could use a few more photos for May. On 4/28/09, Toralf Lund wrote: Question is in the subject, really. I mean, will there be one? Just had to ask... - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2009 - 059 - GDG
In a message dated 4/29/2009 10:38:08 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ramar...@mac.com writes: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/059-foundzebra.jpg "Found Zebra" - Sunnyvale 2009 Panasonic G1 + Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8 ISO 100 @ f/5 @ 1/125 sec as i walked back to my car something caught my eye in the shadows behind the car in a little pool of sunlight a zebra forlorn and lost he rides the dashboard now happy Godfrey = Heh. Cute. Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein **Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220631276x1201390200/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.double click.net%2Fclk%3B214101948%3B35952020%3Bv) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Horses
In a message dated 4/29/2009 6:37:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: Marnie, I don't mind the OOF fence. It comes into focus at the horses. I think it adds to the leading line and composition. Regards, Bob S. = Each to their OOF. Marnie ;-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein **Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220631276x1201390200/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.double click.net%2Fclk%3B214101948%3B35952020%3Bv) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:03:38PM -0400, Doug Franklin scripsit: > Graydon wrote: >> 250mm is long? That's not reliably enough even for feeder birds. >> [...] -- Graydon, who figures 800mm is pretty short, most of the time > > I'm with you. I find my (Sigma) 400 limiting sometimes, even with the > "digital crop factor". I'd love to have the Pentax FA* 600, but > they're hard to find and harder to afford. :-) And reported to be something of a challenge to carry! I would about kill for a 800/8 mirror lens with the current generation SMC coatings. Don't think there's any hope of Pentax going there, alas, but one can dream. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
Graydon wrote: 250mm is long? That's not reliably enough even for feeder birds. [...] -- Graydon, who figures 800mm is pretty short, most of the time I'm with you. I find my (Sigma) 400 limiting sometimes, even with the "digital crop factor". I'd love to have the Pentax FA* 600, but they're hard to find and harder to afford. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 03:13:39PM -0600, William Robb scripsit: > From: "Margus M?nnik" > > Random tourist (Tallinn Old City is full of 'em) shot at f/5.6. I > > was going to shoot a church tower in background and she simply > > walked into the frame... > > http://nagi.ee/photos/photo_sizes.php?id=10408771&size=o&album_id=148643 > > (full size, untouched jpeg from camera) > > > > So, boys and girls, we're doomed. There's nothing to whine about > > Pentax (long zoom) lenses quality any more - all those hundreds and > > thousands of crappy pictures will be our own fault. > > Damn. This kind of things might make me change my plans It's a gorgeous picture, but I do wonder about a couple bits of the EXIF, particularly SR Result : Stabilized Shake Reduction : Unknown (15) SR Half Press Time : 4.25 s or longer SR Focal Length : 196 mm That would seem to indicate that SR was on, that the lens is unknown to the firmware, and that the actual focal length is less than 200mm despite the lens being set at 250mm. (Which I understand is a plausible result of distance-to-subject in some designs.) I would be curious as to anyone else's interpretation of that EXIF information. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:06:34AM +0300, Margus Männik scripsit: > So, boys and girls, we're doomed. There's nothing to whine about > Pentax (long zoom) lenses quality any more - all those hundreds and > thousands of crappy pictures will be our own fault. 250mm is long? That's not reliably enough even for feeder birds. The 60-250 struck me when I heard about it as a good zoo lens, but it isn't what I'd even start to call long. -- Graydon, who figures 800mm is pretty short, most of the time -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography
From: "William Robb" - Original Message - From: "Luiz Felipe" Subject: Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography > > Yes, I ramble - this IS old age. the point is, the moment I assume to get > paid for some job I also assume the fine print (if any). The guy who wants > me to provide some photo with all rights and full contents of the camera > at the end of the session is just paying me an extra. No, I'm not touching > the legal or moral content of the session. No, I don't get that kind of > deal often and I simply won't sell off my projects like that. But I have > no interest of being known as the guy who took some so-so product photo > because the client wanted and paid for exactly that photo. I'm paid for > those photos, but I don't take them as art. Just the job at hand. > This is what professional photography is about. The studio owner where I hang out puts it this way: A professional takes pictures of what he is paid to take pictures of, an amateur takes pictures of what he wants to take pictures of, and generally, there is little cross talk between the two. William Robb What I'm looking for is a professional gig to support my amateur gig. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: shop's open...
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:55:02 EDT eactiv...@aol.com wrote: > http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5329014586482455282 > http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5329016827149731602 > Both, very nice, subash. Don't know that I prefer one to the other. > Nice lightening, lit cart against the dark. > > Must stay hot at night there. Well done. thanks Marnie. yeah, the summer's started in earnest now, pretty hot here, around 40C in the day and 30C in the night... ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Always have a camera with you
From: David J Brooks On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: > John, > > Please examine your email client and determine why each of your messages > includes miles of empty space. Once that is determined, please fix it. > > Thanks, > > Doug > > oh, and I got the danger warning as well. So did Will Smith. Dave Does not compute. Will Robinson perhaps? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: I like the light, but don't know what I did
From: "JC OConnell" I really dont see any "effect(s)". you have horses in shade and a sunny lit background. Whats so special about it? White balance set for sun, the open shade will give a kind of blue cast to the horses. That's what it looks like to me. PS - I'm only 80 some digests behind at this point. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Horses
Marnie, I don't mind the OOF fence. It comes into focus at the horses. I think it adds to the leading line and composition. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:54 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 4/29/2009 4:01:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: > I like the composition. Wonderful rich color. > Paul > = > What he said. I might have made the DOF a bit deeper, but it works > overall. Pretty, flowers and green grass. > > Marnie aka Doe :-) > > On Apr 29, 2009, at 6:44 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > >> I like how you have the fence leading towards the horses. >> >> Neig-ce. >> >> Dave >> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Rick Womer >> wrote: >>> >>> We came upon these horses during a country walk near Hook Norton, >>> Oxfordshire last weekend. Lovely countryside, and The Sun Inn in >>> the town does a marvelous pint of Hooky Bitter. >>> >>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9077174 >>> >>> (K10D and DA 50-200) >>> >>> Rick > > > - > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we > created them. Albert Einstein > > **Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and > Desktops!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220631276x1201390200/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.double > click.net%2Fclk%3B214101948%3B35952020%3Bv) > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Santa Fe No. 1050
Nick, Good photos. Steam locomotives are hard to do, black on black and all. Very nice! Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Nick Wright wrote: > I played on this locomotive as a kid. When I moved back to this town > several years ago I was thrilled to see it still open for people to > climb on. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalingprose/sets/72157617399598561/show/ > > -- > ~Nick David Wright > http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO- fishing boat (was: PESOs - Fishy)
In a message dated 4/26/2009 7:54:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bongmana...@gmail.com writes: Sorta related in more ways than one... An outrigger used for fishing...taken by an old KX ;-) http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3403411735/ Btw, its my latest photo accepted in PPG (Jack: it's the one that was hanging in there...!) Bong === That's extremely nice, Bong. The simplicity is gorgeous (like then boat reflection and the fading out of color of the water). Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein **Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220631276x1201390200/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.double click.net%2Fclk%3B214101948%3B35952020%3Bv) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: formatting cards between every use
In a message dated 4/23/2009 1:01:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jo...@panix.com writes: I reformat (rather than "delete all") because that results in less I/O to the card, and flash media do gradually wear out. I reformat in-camera because that guarantees the card is formatted with a file system the camera understands. === Ditto. For exactly the same reasons John mentions. Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein **Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220631276x1201390200/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.double click.net%2Fclk%3B214101948%3B35952020%3Bv) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Summer Memories
In a message dated 4/29/2009 3:02:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jdavi...@yahoo.com writes: Was poking around the Sierra low foothills earlier today and came upon a scene which will be familiar to a lot of folks. Can recall when on a bright hot summer day, experiencing the protected feeling of being hidden in the private world of a huge shade tree. Two tire swings, a chase (that's what they were called in southern Iowa) lounge and a lawn chair. Riding a tire swing in a soft fresh breezes with the only sound that of the rope re-gripping the limb with each pass. Jack Comments appreciated. htttp://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=414 K10, 16~45 === Nice shot. Although not sure I would have noticed the tire if you hadn't mentioned it. But then, I like trees. Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein **Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220631276x1201390200/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.double click.net%2Fclk%3B214101948%3B35952020%3Bv) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Flickr 3 in 1 :D
In a message dated 4/28/2009 11:26:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tim...@clancode.hu writes: Hi list, On Flickr people like 3 type of pictures: Made with Wideangle Urban Acid 'toning' HDR So I've made all of them in one picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3484020482/ :D Regards, .timber == Heh. Fun shot. The water makes me feel a bit nauseous, but still a fun shot. Marnie aka Doe ;-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein **Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220631276x1201390200/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.double click.net%2Fclk%3B214101948%3B35952020%3Bv) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Nap time
http://bit.ly/xHqgE -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
- Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" Subject: Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots Wow! That's incredibly sharp, and the bokeh is gorgeous. I want one, and I want it NOW! You aren't helping. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Horses
In a message dated 4/29/2009 4:01:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: I like the composition. Wonderful rich color. Paul = What he said. I might have made the DOF a bit deeper, but it works overall. Pretty, flowers and green grass. Marnie aka Doe :-) On Apr 29, 2009, at 6:44 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > I like how you have the fence leading towards the horses. > > Neig-ce. > > Dave > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Rick Womer > wrote: >> >> We came upon these horses during a country walk near Hook Norton, >> Oxfordshire last weekend. Lovely countryside, and The Sun Inn in >> the town does a marvelous pint of Hooky Bitter. >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9077174 >> >> (K10D and DA 50-200) >> >> Rick - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein **Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220631276x1201390200/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.double click.net%2Fclk%3B214101948%3B35952020%3Bv) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: Santa Fe No. 1050
I played on this locomotive as a kid. When I moved back to this town several years ago I was thrilled to see it still open for people to climb on. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalingprose/sets/72157617399598561/show/ -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
My sweaty gym clothes turn them off quite effectively. :-\ Jack --- On Wed, 4/29/09, John Francis wrote: > From: John Francis > Subject: Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 3:31 PM > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 05:42:40PM -0400, frank theriault > wrote: > > > > And here I thought it was to look at hot babes wearing > skimpy gym togs... > > You have a speciasl outfit to wear when looking at hot > babes? > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I need a smallish monopod
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:20:20PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote: > Look at the bright side Larry... everybody knows only the best make it > with poor hardware - only the very best photographers can carry a Pentax > or two and turn out such great results... I've got the Pentax part of the equation down. Step 3: Profit. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
Margus Männik wrote: So, boys and girls, we're doomed. There's nothing to whine about Pentax (long zoom) lenses quality any more - all those hundreds and thousands of crappy pictures will be our own fault. Not for me, bud. At the prices that lens commands, it's doubtful I'll ever have one. I've got too many other expensive hobbies. ;-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West
frank theriault wrote: Another lame title, but one of my favourite cars: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/04/aston-martin-on-queen-west.html Very nice pan shot, Frank. What color was it? -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Tangled Tractor
Very nice. I love the soft lighting. That group of yellow flowers in the lower left corner really adds a nice touch. On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:40 PM, John Francis wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 01:54:39PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote: >> >> Another from our country walk near Hook Norton. It doesn't look as though >> it will be going anywhere soon. >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9077175 >> >> (K10D and DA 16-45) >> >> Rick > > Robert Browning got it right, if you ask me. > > (Hook Norton bitter, too. What more could a man want?) > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Summer Memories
Thanks. My old eyes missed that. It's a fabulous tree. I might have missed the swing and lounge hair if not called out. Paul On Apr 29, 2009, at 6:42 PM, John Francis wrote: Try "http://...";, rather than "htttp://..." On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 06:40:57PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote: I can't get the link to work. On Apr 29, 2009, at 6:08 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Was poking around the Sierra low foothills earlier today and came upon a scene which will be familiar to a lot of folks. Can recall when on a bright hot summer day, experiencing the protected feeling of being hidden in the private world of a huge shade tree. Two tire swings, a chase (that's what they were called in southern Iowa) lounge and a lawn chair. Riding a tire swing in a soft fresh breezes with the only sound that of the rope re-gripping the limb with each pass. Jack Comments appreciated. htttp://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=414 K10, 16~45 That's one big beautiful tree. The chase lounge (as you call it ) and chair are somewhat obscured by the foliage, but no matter, the swings make the photo for me anyway. Wonderful photo, very evocative. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO- fishing boat (was: PESOs - Fishy)
Ooooh! I like that. Great geometry, wonderful composition and rendering. Very, very nice. Paul On Apr 29, 2009, at 6:48 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Lovely composition. Congrat's Dave On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Bong Manayon wrote: Sorta related in more ways than one... An outrigger used for fishing...taken by an old KX ;-) http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3403411735/ Btw, its my latest photo accepted in PPG (Jack: it's the one that was hanging in there...!) Bong On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:33 AM, DagT wrote: Everyone else is talking about the new camera while I´m playing with an old MX, Fisheye 17mm f/4 and b/w film .-) http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=905836 DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2009 - 059 - GDG
Good eye. Nicely composed. Paul On Apr 29, 2009, at 6:47 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Nice and a bit on the erie side. The bright zebra against the dark background works very well. Dave On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/059-foundzebra.jpg "Found Zebra" - Sunnyvale 2009 Panasonic G1 + Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8 ISO 100 @ f/5 @ 1/125 sec as i walked back to my car something caught my eye in the shadows behind the car in a little pool of sunlight a zebra forlorn and lost he rides the dashboard now happy Godfrey -- www.gdgphoto.com www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi PS: out of town a few days starting this afternoon. limited internet access. be well. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Horses
I like the composition. Wonderful rich color. Paul On Apr 29, 2009, at 6:44 PM, David J Brooks wrote: I like how you have the fence leading towards the horses. Neig-ce. Dave On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Rick Womer wrote: We came upon these horses during a country walk near Hook Norton, Oxfordshire last weekend. Lovely countryside, and The Sun Inn in the town does a marvelous pint of Hooky Bitter. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9077174 (K10D and DA 50-200) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?
The DA lens may not have the same image circle due to different baffling in the barrel design. Same optics but possibly different image circle. Its better to be smaller if your using a smaller sensor. See my last post as to why. JC O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) "Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom" - Thomas Jefferson -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Luiz Felipe Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 6:25 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF? According to Boz, the DA* 200mm 2.8 and the FA* 200mm 2.8 have the same filter size, dimensions, number of elements and groups, and minimum focusing distance. Well, that's one possible case of one still available DA* lens capable of printing the entire 35mm frame, even if only marginally. Or a Full 35mm Frame lens ready as soon as they discover the need - wich they won't, as long as we understand Corporate Pentax's ideas for the future. Still looking for hands on results. :-) LF Luiz Felipe escreveu: > As long as I agree there is little sense in working an APS-C lens with > 35mm image coverage if you don't want your lens to be used on 35mm, I > don't believe they would take pains to restrict the image circle if the > lens design came from a 35mm version. Flare control baffles could > possibly be enhanced and the reduction on the original image area > accepted. But other than that the lens could be still be able to print > 35mm. Not a proper design from the ground, but some revision of an > existing and proved successful one. Possible case of the DA* 200mm 2.8?? > I'll be doing some spec reading at Boz' pages tonight. > > Anyway my question did assume greater lens availability from Pentax. > Since the only DA* lenses available with long reach into the 135~200mm > and 2.8 aperture are the 50~135 and the 200mm, I really should ask if > any 35mm film users ever tried those lenses on anything but APS-C > Pentaxes, and what results they got. It's all about getting more uses > for Pentax lenses, after all. > > LF > > JC OConnell escreveu: >> The other thing to note is well designed lenses for a specific format >> (like APS format and DA lenses)many times could optically work but >> because they are designed for smaller formats may have good baffling >> and front rings that will vignette if used on a larger format like >> FF. >> >> JC O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) >> "Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom" - Thomas >> Jefferson >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf >> Of John Francis >> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:09 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF? >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 01:35:09PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote: >>> I was looking for data on the available 180~200mm 2.8 lenses for K >>> and EF mounts, and found some story about how the DA* 200 2.8 is >>> related >> to >>> the former 200mm full frame and so it possibly would cover said full >>> frame. >>> >>> That got me wondering if one of the tech-oriented actually knows the >>> image circle dimensions for the DA lenses, and how much is missing. >>> I >> >>> know the difference should be proportional to the difference from >> APS-C >>> to 24x36mm, but would like ko know the size and borderline falloff >>> evolution on the DA lenses. >>> >>> Just wondering, TIA. :-) >>> >>> LF >> >> Above some focal length (well below 200mm) it's likely that just >> about any lens will have an image circle easily large enough to cover >> 36x24mm. But, as Ned Bunnell point out in his blog entry on the >> forthcoming camera, there's a difference between covering an image >> circle and covering it well. The DA lenses are not designed for >> sensors of that size, so things such as corner resolution, >> distortion, etc. may not be sufficiently high. (There again, as he >> also mentions, some older lenses may also fall short in that regard, >> even though they were designed for use on film cameras). >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> > -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?
This is undesireable for DA lenses. Why? Because you really dont want your lenses to create image circles way larger than your format on a fixed format ( no swings, tilts, or shifts ) camera. The reason is bright objects outside the recorded field of view bounce around inside the camera and can create or add unwanted image flare as a result. Its better to have the image circles just large enough for the job ( some margin for shake reduction) but not way larger than needed. JC O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) "Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom" - Thomas Jefferson -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Joseph McAllister Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 6:09 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF? Slapping some of my DA lenses on an LX I have not found any that didn't cover the entire screen, with no apparent vignetting except at a zoom's widest angles. Not scientific. Not all inclusive. Just an observation. If I had the time, and I cared, I'd shoot a few rolls of film to test each of my DA lenses. But I don't, so I won't. Maybe some other time. On Apr 29, 2009, at 14:54 , Luiz Felipe wrote: > Guess they could sue me if I end up finding some DA lens CAPABLE of > marginal (but acceptable to some extent by me) 35mm coverage... > > If I sell someone a PC that is not intended to video edition, has no > real video capability but the user stubbornly uses it to edit video, > I'm ok with that. > > Let's accept the truth, handed from wherever by any means, that > Pentax offers no DA lens intended and guaranteed to work 35mm. My > question still remains: is there any experience proving lousy 35mm > coverage by said DA lenses? Since it's not the accepted use, I won't > hold sacred Pentax responsible for my results... they will be my > entire responsibility. All mine. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com "If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn't need to lug a camera." -Lewis Hine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO- fishing boat (was: PESOs - Fishy)
Lovely composition. Congrat's Dave On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Bong Manayon wrote: > Sorta related in more ways than one... > > An outrigger used for fishing...taken by an old KX ;-) > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3403411735/ > > Btw, its my latest photo accepted in PPG (Jack: it's the one that was > hanging in there...!) > > Bong > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:33 AM, DagT wrote: >> Everyone else is talking about the new camera while I´m playing with an old >> MX, Fisheye 17mm f/4 and b/w film .-) >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=905836 >> >> DagT >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > Bong Manayon > http://www.bong.uni.cc > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2009 - 059 - GDG
Nice and a bit on the erie side. The bright zebra against the dark background works very well. Dave On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > http://homepage.mac.com/godders/059-foundzebra.jpg > "Found Zebra" - Sunnyvale 2009 > Panasonic G1 + Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8 > ISO 100 @ f/5 @ 1/125 sec > > as i walked back to my car > something caught my eye > in the shadows behind the car > in a little pool of sunlight > a zebra forlorn > and lost > he rides the dashboard now > happy > > Godfrey > -- > www.gdgphoto.com > www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets > twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi > > PS: out of town a few days starting this afternoon. limited internet access. > be well. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Sigma 4.5 mm fisheye
B&H is showing this. Also new is a Bower 85mm 1.4. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/596242-USA/Sigma_486_109_4_5mm_f_2_8_EX_DC.html#specifications -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Horses
I like how you have the fence leading towards the horses. Neig-ce. Dave On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > We came upon these horses during a country walk near Hook Norton, Oxfordshire > last weekend. Lovely countryside, and The Sun Inn in the town does a > marvelous pint of Hooky Bitter. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9077174 > > (K10D and DA 50-200) > > Rick > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Summer Memories
Try "http://...";, rather than "htttp://..." On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 06:40:57PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote: > I can't get the link to work. > On Apr 29, 2009, at 6:08 PM, frank theriault wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Jack Davis >> wrote: >>> >>> Was poking around the Sierra low foothills earlier today and came >>> upon a scene which will be familiar to a lot of folks. >>> Can recall when on a bright hot summer day, experiencing the >>> protected feeling of being hidden in the private world of a huge >>> shade tree. Two tire swings, a chase (that's what they were called >>> in southern Iowa) lounge and a lawn chair. >>> Riding a tire swing in a soft fresh breezes with the only sound that >>> of the rope re-gripping the limb with each pass. >>> >>> Jack >>> >>> Comments appreciated. >>> >>> htttp://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=414 >>> >>> K10, 16~45 >> >> That's one big beautiful tree. >> >> The chase lounge (as you call it ) and chair are somewhat obscured >> by the foliage, but no matter, the swings make the photo for me >> anyway. >> >> Wonderful photo, very evocative. >> >> cheers, >> frank >> >> >> -- >> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
2009/4/29 Margus Männik : > Random tourist (Tallinn Old City is full of 'em) shot at f/5.6. I was going > to shoot a church tower in background and she simply walked into the > frame... > http://nagi.ee/photos/photo_sizes.php?id=10408771&size=o&album_id=148643 > (full size, untouched jpeg from camera) I have tried 5-6 times to load this photo, but to no avail. :-( Dave > > BR, Margus > > > > Jack Davis wrote: > LoL.. > > J > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Summer Memories
I can't get the link to work. On Apr 29, 2009, at 6:08 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Was poking around the Sierra low foothills earlier today and came upon a scene which will be familiar to a lot of folks. Can recall when on a bright hot summer day, experiencing the protected feeling of being hidden in the private world of a huge shade tree. Two tire swings, a chase (that's what they were called in southern Iowa) lounge and a lawn chair. Riding a tire swing in a soft fresh breezes with the only sound that of the rope re-gripping the limb with each pass. Jack Comments appreciated. htttp://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=414 K10, 16~45 That's one big beautiful tree. The chase lounge (as you call it ) and chair are somewhat obscured by the foliage, but no matter, the swings make the photo for me anyway. Wonderful photo, very evocative. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Tangled Tractor
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 01:54:39PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote: > > Another from our country walk near Hook Norton. It doesn't look as though it > will be going anywhere soon. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9077175 > > (K10D and DA 16-45) > > Rick Robert Browning got it right, if you ask me. (Hook Norton bitter, too. What more could a man want?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
Wow! That's incredibly sharp, and the bokeh is gorgeous. I want one, and I want it NOW! Paul On Apr 29, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Margus Männik wrote: Well, today I can laugh :) Loud:))) Decided to defy all those viruses and bacilluses and went out to shoot. DA*60-250 is SUPER. Yes, naturally it's quite heavy and large for my weak body (and I hate its price tag), but it paints pictures like some long-focus-rembrandt. Sharp focus right from wide open, nice bokeh. And by the way - yes, it is 100% usable with AF film body. Even 101% as my Z-1p focuses automatically with 2x Kenko TC. Slowly, but firmly. Damned K20D don't even try with TC attached :( Random tourist (Tallinn Old City is full of 'em) shot at f/5.6. I was going to shoot a church tower in background and she simply walked into the frame... http://nagi.ee/photos/photo_sizes.php?id=10408771&size=o&album_id=148643 (full size, untouched jpeg from camera) So, boys and girls, we're doomed. There's nothing to whine about Pentax (long zoom) lenses quality any more - all those hundreds and thousands of crappy pictures will be our own fault. BR, Margus Jack Davis wrote: LoL.. J -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 05:42:40PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: > > And here I thought it was to look at hot babes wearing skimpy gym togs... You have a speciasl outfit to wear when looking at hot babes? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?
Hehehehe... Great! Really interesting, and a very, very loud THANKS!!! LF Derby Chang escreveu: Hi Luiz, Some time ago, I took these shots that Boris has been gracious enough to host. I probably should do an update with a few more DA lenses I have now. http://boris.isra-shop.com/da_lim_on_film.html hope this helps Derby Luiz Felipe wrote: Guess they could sue me if I end up finding some DA lens CAPABLE of marginal (but acceptable to some extent by me) 35mm coverage... If I sell someone a PC that is not intended to video edition, has no real video capability but the user stubbornly uses it to edit video, I'm ok with that. Let's accept the truth, handed from wherever by any means, that Pentax offers no DA lens intended and guaranteed to work 35mm. My question still remains: is there any experience proving lousy 35mm coverage by said DA lenses? Since it's not the accepted use, I won't hold sacred Pentax responsible for my results... they will be my entire responsibility. All mine. LF JC OConnell escreveu: If some dont cover full frame than its pretty obvious to me that DA lens series is not intended nor guanateed for full frame usage, they are for APS usage. Just like some K series full frame lenses could work on larger formats than but were not sold nor intended for use on larger formats than 35mm. I would think that the DA lens series is NOT for full frame usage according to pentax. JC O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) "Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom" - Thomas Jefferson -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:56 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF? Luiz Felipe wrote: I was looking for data on the available 180~200mm 2.8 lenses for K and EF mounts, and found some story about how the DA* 200 2.8 is related to the former 200mm full frame and so it possibly would cover said full frame. That got me wondering if one of the tech-oriented actually knows the image circle dimensions for the DA lenses, and how much is missing. I know the difference should be proportional to the difference from APS-C to 24x36mm, but would like ko know the size and borderline falloff evolution on the DA lenses. Just wondering, TIA. :-) It varies. Some DA lenses cover full frame, some don't (it's the wide angle ones that don't, in general). As far as anyone can tell, the "DA" designation indicates that the lens is optically optimized for digital and that it doesn't have an aperture ring. It doesn't seem to specifically relate to the image circle. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?
Well, well, well... Great news, even if not a full scale scientific test. TKS!! LF Joseph McAllister escreveu: Slapping some of my DA lenses on an LX I have not found any that didn't cover the entire screen, with no apparent vignetting except at a zoom's widest angles. Not scientific. Not all inclusive. Just an observation. If I had the time, and I cared, I'd shoot a few rolls of film to test each of my DA lenses. But I don't, so I won't. Maybe some other time. On Apr 29, 2009, at 14:54 , Luiz Felipe wrote: Guess they could sue me if I end up finding some DA lens CAPABLE of marginal (but acceptable to some extent by me) 35mm coverage... If I sell someone a PC that is not intended to video edition, has no real video capability but the user stubbornly uses it to edit video, I'm ok with that. Let's accept the truth, handed from wherever by any means, that Pentax offers no DA lens intended and guaranteed to work 35mm. My question still remains: is there any experience proving lousy 35mm coverage by said DA lenses? Since it's not the accepted use, I won't hold sacred Pentax responsible for my results... they will be my entire responsibility. All mine. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn’t need to lug a camera.” –Lewis Hine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?
According to Boz, the DA* 200mm 2.8 and the FA* 200mm 2.8 have the same filter size, dimensions, number of elements and groups, and minimum focusing distance. Well, that's one possible case of one still available DA* lens capable of printing the entire 35mm frame, even if only marginally. Or a Full 35mm Frame lens ready as soon as they discover the need - wich they won't, as long as we understand Corporate Pentax's ideas for the future. Still looking for hands on results. :-) LF Luiz Felipe escreveu: As long as I agree there is little sense in working an APS-C lens with 35mm image coverage if you don't want your lens to be used on 35mm, I don't believe they would take pains to restrict the image circle if the lens design came from a 35mm version. Flare control baffles could possibly be enhanced and the reduction on the original image area accepted. But other than that the lens could be still be able to print 35mm. Not a proper design from the ground, but some revision of an existing and proved successful one. Possible case of the DA* 200mm 2.8?? I'll be doing some spec reading at Boz' pages tonight. Anyway my question did assume greater lens availability from Pentax. Since the only DA* lenses available with long reach into the 135~200mm and 2.8 aperture are the 50~135 and the 200mm, I really should ask if any 35mm film users ever tried those lenses on anything but APS-C Pentaxes, and what results they got. It's all about getting more uses for Pentax lenses, after all. LF JC OConnell escreveu: The other thing to note is well designed lenses for a specific format (like APS format and DA lenses)many times could optically work but because they are designed for smaller formats may have good baffling and front rings that will vignette if used on a larger format like FF. JC O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) "Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom" - Thomas Jefferson -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:09 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF? On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 01:35:09PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote: I was looking for data on the available 180~200mm 2.8 lenses for K and EF mounts, and found some story about how the DA* 200 2.8 is related to the former 200mm full frame and so it possibly would cover said full frame. That got me wondering if one of the tech-oriented actually knows the image circle dimensions for the DA lenses, and how much is missing. I know the difference should be proportional to the difference from APS-C to 24x36mm, but would like ko know the size and borderline falloff evolution on the DA lenses. Just wondering, TIA. :-) LF Above some focal length (well below 200mm) it's likely that just about any lens will have an image circle easily large enough to cover 36x24mm. But, as Ned Bunnell point out in his blog entry on the forthcoming camera, there's a difference between covering an image circle and covering it well. The DA lenses are not designed for sensors of that size, so things such as corner resolution, distortion, etc. may not be sufficiently high. (There again, as he also mentions, some older lenses may also fall short in that regard, even though they were designed for use on film cameras). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Summer Memories
Thanks, Bob. I spent those years and days described in Iowa. I miss the "feel" of the mid west weather. Mostly the suffocating humidity. Jack --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Bob Sullivan wrote: > From: Bob Sullivan > Subject: Re: PESO: Summer Memories > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 3:11 PM > Jack, > Nice memories and I can feel the summer day all the way > back here in > cold Chicago. > Regards, Bob S. > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:08 PM, frank theriault > wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Jack Davis > wrote: > >> > >> Was poking around the Sierra low foothills earlier > today and came upon a scene which will be familiar to a lot > of folks. > >> Can recall when on a bright hot summer day, > experiencing the protected feeling of being hidden in the > private world of a huge shade tree. Two tire swings, a chase > (that's what they were called in southern Iowa) lounge > and a lawn chair. > >> Riding a tire swing in a soft fresh breezes with > the only sound that of the rope re-gripping the limb with > each pass. > >> > >> Jack > >> > >> Comments appreciated. > >> > >> > htttp://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=414 > >> > >> K10, 16~45 > > > > That's one big beautiful tree. > > > > The chase lounge (as you call it ) and chair > are somewhat obscured > > by the foliage, but no matter, the swings make the > photo for me > > anyway. > > > > Wonderful photo, very evocative. > > > > cheers, > > frank > > > > > > -- > > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Summer Memories
I get that. I lightened the under side area, but it lost that cozy hidden look. So allowed it to go darker. Thanks much, Frank. Jack --- On Wed, 4/29/09, frank theriault wrote: > From: frank theriault > Subject: Re: PESO: Summer Memories > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 3:08 PM > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Jack Davis > wrote: > > > > Was poking around the Sierra low foothills earlier > today and came upon a scene which will be familiar to a lot > of folks. > > Can recall when on a bright hot summer day, > experiencing the protected feeling of being hidden in the > private world of a huge shade tree. Two tire swings, a chase > (that's what they were called in southern Iowa) lounge > and a lawn chair. > > Riding a tire swing in a soft fresh breezes with the > only sound that of the rope re-gripping the limb with each > pass. > > > > Jack > > > > Comments appreciated. > > > > > htttp://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=414 > > > > K10, 16~45 > > That's one big beautiful tree. > > The chase lounge (as you call it ) and chair are > somewhat obscured > by the foliage, but no matter, the swings make the photo > for me > anyway. > > Wonderful photo, very evocative. > > cheers, > frank > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
Thing is, it's the physical therapy gym I went to when recouping from my shoulder surgery. They, also, offer a monthly membership which is what I'm into now. Most of the fragile folk there are under their Doctor's orders and are there in the hope of extending their longevity. (me too) That may include "hot babes", but you hope not to see this group in "skimpy" gym togs. 8-() Jack --- On Wed, 4/29/09, frank theriault wrote: > From: frank theriault > Subject: Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 2:42 PM > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Jack Davis > wrote: > > > > I going to the gym 2 or 3 days a week, supposidly to > improve my strength and general health. Actually, I'm > getting ready to deal with a hefty 60~250. > > And here I thought it was to look at hot babes wearing > skimpy gym togs... > > ;-) > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Summer Memories
Jack, Nice memories and I can feel the summer day all the way back here in cold Chicago. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:08 PM, frank theriault wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Jack Davis wrote: >> >> Was poking around the Sierra low foothills earlier today and came upon a >> scene which will be familiar to a lot of folks. >> Can recall when on a bright hot summer day, experiencing the protected >> feeling of being hidden in the private world of a huge shade tree. Two tire >> swings, a chase (that's what they were called in southern Iowa) lounge and a >> lawn chair. >> Riding a tire swing in a soft fresh breezes with the only sound that of the >> rope re-gripping the limb with each pass. >> >> Jack >> >> Comments appreciated. >> >> htttp://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=414 >> >> K10, 16~45 > > That's one big beautiful tree. > > The chase lounge (as you call it ) and chair are somewhat obscured > by the foliage, but no matter, the swings make the photo for me > anyway. > > Wonderful photo, very evocative. > > cheers, > frank > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Summer Memories
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > Was poking around the Sierra low foothills earlier today and came upon a > scene which will be familiar to a lot of folks. > Can recall when on a bright hot summer day, experiencing the protected > feeling of being hidden in the private world of a huge shade tree. Two tire > swings, a chase (that's what they were called in southern Iowa) lounge and a > lawn chair. > Riding a tire swing in a soft fresh breezes with the only sound that of the > rope re-gripping the limb with each pass. > > Jack > > Comments appreciated. > > htttp://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=414 > > K10, 16~45 That's one big beautiful tree. The chase lounge (as you call it ) and chair are somewhat obscured by the foliage, but no matter, the swings make the photo for me anyway. Wonderful photo, very evocative. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?
Slapping some of my DA lenses on an LX I have not found any that didn't cover the entire screen, with no apparent vignetting except at a zoom's widest angles. Not scientific. Not all inclusive. Just an observation. If I had the time, and I cared, I'd shoot a few rolls of film to test each of my DA lenses. But I don't, so I won't. Maybe some other time. On Apr 29, 2009, at 14:54 , Luiz Felipe wrote: Guess they could sue me if I end up finding some DA lens CAPABLE of marginal (but acceptable to some extent by me) 35mm coverage... If I sell someone a PC that is not intended to video edition, has no real video capability but the user stubbornly uses it to edit video, I'm ok with that. Let's accept the truth, handed from wherever by any means, that Pentax offers no DA lens intended and guaranteed to work 35mm. My question still remains: is there any experience proving lousy 35mm coverage by said DA lenses? Since it's not the accepted use, I won't hold sacred Pentax responsible for my results... they will be my entire responsibility. All mine. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn’t need to lug a camera.” –Lewis Hine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
Margus Männik wrote: Well, today I can laugh :) Loud:))) Decided to defy all those viruses and bacilluses and went out to shoot. DA*60-250 is SUPER. Yes, naturally it's quite heavy and large for my weak body (and I hate its price tag), but it paints pictures like some long-focus-rembrandt. Sharp focus right from wide open, nice bokeh. And by the way - yes, it is 100% usable with AF film body. Even 101% as my Z-1p focuses automatically with 2x Kenko TC. Slowly, but firmly. Damned K20D don't even try with TC attached :( Random tourist (Tallinn Old City is full of 'em) shot at f/5.6. I was going to shoot a church tower in background and she simply walked into the frame... http://nagi.ee/photos/photo_sizes.php?id=10408771&size=o&album_id=148643 (full size, untouched jpeg from camera) So, boys and girls, we're doomed. There's nothing to whine about Pentax (long zoom) lenses quality any more - all those hundreds and thousands of crappy pictures will be our own fault. BR, Margus Oh my. Beautiful, beautiful Derby -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West
Oh yeah there is!! Jack --- On Wed, 4/29/09, William Robb wrote: > From: William Robb > Subject: Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 2:41 PM > - Original Message - > From: "Jack Davis" > Subject: Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West > > > > > > ...and wiser!? > > > > There is no doubt about that. > > William Robb > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?
Hi Luiz, Some time ago, I took these shots that Boris has been gracious enough to host. I probably should do an update with a few more DA lenses I have now. http://boris.isra-shop.com/da_lim_on_film.html hope this helps Derby Luiz Felipe wrote: Guess they could sue me if I end up finding some DA lens CAPABLE of marginal (but acceptable to some extent by me) 35mm coverage... If I sell someone a PC that is not intended to video edition, has no real video capability but the user stubbornly uses it to edit video, I'm ok with that. Let's accept the truth, handed from wherever by any means, that Pentax offers no DA lens intended and guaranteed to work 35mm. My question still remains: is there any experience proving lousy 35mm coverage by said DA lenses? Since it's not the accepted use, I won't hold sacred Pentax responsible for my results... they will be my entire responsibility. All mine. LF JC OConnell escreveu: If some dont cover full frame than its pretty obvious to me that DA lens series is not intended nor guanateed for full frame usage, they are for APS usage. Just like some K series full frame lenses could work on larger formats than but were not sold nor intended for use on larger formats than 35mm. I would think that the DA lens series is NOT for full frame usage according to pentax. JC O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) "Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom" - Thomas Jefferson -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:56 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF? Luiz Felipe wrote: I was looking for data on the available 180~200mm 2.8 lenses for K and EF mounts, and found some story about how the DA* 200 2.8 is related to the former 200mm full frame and so it possibly would cover said full frame. That got me wondering if one of the tech-oriented actually knows the image circle dimensions for the DA lenses, and how much is missing. I know the difference should be proportional to the difference from APS-C to 24x36mm, but would like ko know the size and borderline falloff evolution on the DA lenses. Just wondering, TIA. :-) It varies. Some DA lenses cover full frame, some don't (it's the wide angle ones that don't, in general). As far as anyone can tell, the "DA" designation indicates that the lens is optically optimized for digital and that it doesn't have an aperture ring. It doesn't seem to specifically relate to the image circle. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2009 - 058 - GDG
Remove the first 058- from the URL. Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com On Apr 29, 2009, at 2:04 PM, Rick Womer wrote: I really liked it when I took a quick look this morning, Godders. I went back this evening for a more careful look, and it's gone. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Sat, 4/25/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Very early two or three days ago, this bit of light through the blinds struck my eye somehow. http://homepage.mac.com/godders/058-058-dawnthroughblinds.jpg "Dawn Light Through Blinds" - Sunnyvale 2009 Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4 ISO 100 @ f/1.4 @ 1/1250 sec Comments always appreciated. enjoy, Godfrey -- www.gdgphoto.com www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Fw: PESO: Summer Memories
--- On Wed, 4/29/09, Jack Davis wrote: > From: Jack Davis > Subject: PESO: Summer Memories > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 3:02 PM > Was poking around the Sierra low foothills earlier today and > came upon a scene which will be familiar to a lot of folks. > Can recall when on a bright hot summer day, experiencing > the protected feeling of being hidden in the private world > of a huge shade tree. Two tire swings, a chase (that's > what they were called in southern Iowa) lounge and a lawn > chair. > Riding a tire swing in a soft fresh breezes with the only > sound that of the rope re-gripping the limb with each pass. > > Jack > > Comments appreciated. > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=414 > > K10, 16~45 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Summer Memories
Was poking around the Sierra low foothills earlier today and came upon a scene which will be familiar to a lot of folks. Can recall when on a bright hot summer day, experiencing the protected feeling of being hidden in the private world of a huge shade tree. Two tire swings, a chase (that's what they were called in southern Iowa) lounge and a lawn chair. Riding a tire swing in a soft fresh breezes with the only sound that of the rope re-gripping the limb with each pass. Jack Comments appreciated. htttp://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=414 K10, 16~45 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Horses
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Rick, > Without the fence, it's just a nice horse photo... > Good addition! > Regards, Bob S. And with the fence it's a nice horse-and-fence photo. ;-) Lovely shot, Rick! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?
Guess they could sue me if I end up finding some DA lens CAPABLE of marginal (but acceptable to some extent by me) 35mm coverage... If I sell someone a PC that is not intended to video edition, has no real video capability but the user stubbornly uses it to edit video, I'm ok with that. Let's accept the truth, handed from wherever by any means, that Pentax offers no DA lens intended and guaranteed to work 35mm. My question still remains: is there any experience proving lousy 35mm coverage by said DA lenses? Since it's not the accepted use, I won't hold sacred Pentax responsible for my results... they will be my entire responsibility. All mine. LF JC OConnell escreveu: If some dont cover full frame than its pretty obvious to me that DA lens series is not intended nor guanateed for full frame usage, they are for APS usage. Just like some K series full frame lenses could work on larger formats than but were not sold nor intended for use on larger formats than 35mm. I would think that the DA lens series is NOT for full frame usage according to pentax. JC O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) "Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom" - Thomas Jefferson -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:56 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF? Luiz Felipe wrote: I was looking for data on the available 180~200mm 2.8 lenses for K and EF mounts, and found some story about how the DA* 200 2.8 is related to the former 200mm full frame and so it possibly would cover said full frame. That got me wondering if one of the tech-oriented actually knows the image circle dimensions for the DA lenses, and how much is missing. I know the difference should be proportional to the difference from APS-C to 24x36mm, but would like ko know the size and borderline falloff evolution on the DA lenses. Just wondering, TIA. :-) It varies. Some DA lenses cover full frame, some don't (it's the wide angle ones that don't, in general). As far as anyone can tell, the "DA" designation indicates that the lens is optically optimized for digital and that it doesn't have an aperture ring. It doesn't seem to specifically relate to the image circle. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Horses
Rick, Without the fence, it's just a nice horse photo... Good addition! Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > We came upon these horses during a country walk near Hook Norton, Oxfordshire > last weekend. Lovely countryside, and The Sun Inn in the town does a > marvelous pint of Hooky Bitter. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9077174 > > (K10D and DA 50-200) > > Rick > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:44 PM, William Robb wrote: > Was any of this supposed to make any sense? As opposed to anything else on this list? ;-) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?
As long as I agree there is little sense in working an APS-C lens with 35mm image coverage if you don't want your lens to be used on 35mm, I don't believe they would take pains to restrict the image circle if the lens design came from a 35mm version. Flare control baffles could possibly be enhanced and the reduction on the original image area accepted. But other than that the lens could be still be able to print 35mm. Not a proper design from the ground, but some revision of an existing and proved successful one. Possible case of the DA* 200mm 2.8?? I'll be doing some spec reading at Boz' pages tonight. Anyway my question did assume greater lens availability from Pentax. Since the only DA* lenses available with long reach into the 135~200mm and 2.8 aperture are the 50~135 and the 200mm, I really should ask if any 35mm film users ever tried those lenses on anything but APS-C Pentaxes, and what results they got. It's all about getting more uses for Pentax lenses, after all. LF JC OConnell escreveu: The other thing to note is well designed lenses for a specific format (like APS format and DA lenses)many times could optically work but because they are designed for smaller formats may have good baffling and front rings that will vignette if used on a larger format like FF. JC O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) "Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom" - Thomas Jefferson -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:09 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF? On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 01:35:09PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote: I was looking for data on the available 180~200mm 2.8 lenses for K and EF mounts, and found some story about how the DA* 200 2.8 is related to the former 200mm full frame and so it possibly would cover said full frame. That got me wondering if one of the tech-oriented actually knows the image circle dimensions for the DA lenses, and how much is missing. I know the difference should be proportional to the difference from APS-C to 24x36mm, but would like ko know the size and borderline falloff evolution on the DA lenses. Just wondering, TIA. :-) LF Above some focal length (well below 200mm) it's likely that just about any lens will have an image circle easily large enough to cover 36x24mm. But, as Ned Bunnell point out in his blog entry on the forthcoming camera, there's a difference between covering an image circle and covering it well. The DA lenses are not designed for sensors of that size, so things such as corner resolution, distortion, etc. may not be sufficiently high. (There again, as he also mentions, some older lenses may also fall short in that regard, even though they were designed for use on film cameras). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FA 50mm f1.4 interior rattle
I have an FA 20mm f/2.8 that also rattles. It's disconcerting, but it works flawlessly, so I just shrug my shoulders and continue using it. I bought it used and the seller (who was the 2nd owner) said it had always been like that. --M. >> Hi Everyone: >> >> I noticed a rattle in my SMC FA 50mm f1.4 lens. I didn't drop it, but I >> >> might have banged it--though I don't remember doing so. Anyway, it >> rattles >> most when held with both hands, like a ball, with front of lens away >> from my >> body. I'll have to send to Pentax, but anyone have any thoughts what it >> >> might/could be? Kind of bummed--it's been a trusty old'lens for me and >> it's >> my 1st equipment problem sense getting back into photography. >> >> Cheers, Christine >> -- >> -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://enticingthelight.wordpress.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?
- Original Message - From: "Thibouille" Subject: Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF? > You're easily insulted it seems. C'est what? > > But you're right, a better world if you work for Pentax and have a > personal blog you have to : > Praise Pentax and only Pentax, > Not speak about anything not related to Pentax, > Eat Pentax as well because it is Pentax, > Never appear in public with anyting else than a Pentax, even if in holiday > [...] > One world, one tought, one leader. Seems pretty communist to me. Oh it > is capitalism? > Yeah, so much different... Was any of this supposed to make any sense? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West
- Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" Subject: Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West > > ...and wiser!? > There is no doubt about that. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > I going to the gym 2 or 3 days a week, supposidly to improve my strength and > general health. Actually, I'm getting ready to deal with a hefty 60~250. And here I thought it was to look at hot babes wearing skimpy gym togs... ;-) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 6 million frames per second, one pixel camera
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Bob W wrote: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8025211.stm > > Bob Imagine what HCB or St. Ansel could have done with one of those! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: image circle of DA lenses: how much smaller than FF?
You're easily insulted it seems. But you're right, a better world if you work for Pentax and have a personal blog you have to : Praise Pentax and only Pentax, Not speak about anything not related to Pentax, Eat Pentax as well because it is Pentax, Never appear in public with anyting else than a Pentax, even if in holiday [...] One world, one tought, one leader. Seems pretty communist to me. Oh it is capitalism? Yeah, so much different... -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
6 million frames per second, one pixel camera
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8025211.stm Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
I going to the gym 2 or 3 days a week, supposidly to improve my strength and general health. Actually, I'm getting ready to deal with a hefty 60~250. Jack --- On Wed, 4/29/09, William Robb wrote: > From: William Robb > Subject: Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 2:13 PM > - Original Message - > From: "Margus Männik" > Subject: Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots > > > > > Random tourist (Tallinn Old City is full of 'em) > shot at f/5.6. I was > > going to shoot a church tower in background and she > simply walked into the > > frame... > > > http://nagi.ee/photos/photo_sizes.php?id=10408771&size=o&album_id=148643 > > (full size, untouched jpeg from camera) > > > > So, boys and girls, we're doomed. There's > nothing to whine about Pentax > > (long zoom) lenses quality any more - all those > hundreds and thousands of > > crappy pictures will be our own fault. > > Damn. > This kind of things might make me change my plans > > William Robb > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West
...and wiser!? ;} Jack --- On Wed, 4/29/09, William Robb wrote: > From: William Robb > Subject: Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 2:10 PM > - Original Message - > From: "Jack Davis" > Subject: Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West > > > > > > I know. Many years ago, I hankered for a new set of > golf clubs and could > > sense some resistance from the "treasurer". > About the same time I saw a > > boat that was just what I had been thinking about. I > pointed it out to my > > wife and mentioned the price (something like $2,000 > USD). Back then the > > pro-line matched swing-weight clubs were only around > $175. > > Short time later I told my wife that I thought I'd > pass on the boat and > > get the clubs. It was met with a slight smile and a > look of relief. I wore > > those clubs out. > > Ya see, Bill I'm w a y ahead of ya'. ;) > > > > You are probably way older.. > > William Robb > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
Random tourist? Yea, right. Bob > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On > Behalf Of Margus Männik > Sent: 29 April 2009 22:07 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots > > Well, today I can laugh :) Loud:))) > Decided to defy all those viruses and bacilluses and went out > to shoot. > DA*60-250 is SUPER. Yes, naturally it's quite heavy and large for my > weak body (and I hate its price tag), but it paints pictures > like some > long-focus-rembrandt. Sharp focus right from wide open, nice bokeh. > And by the way - yes, it is 100% usable with AF film body. > Even 101% as > my Z-1p focuses automatically with 2x Kenko TC. Slowly, but firmly. > Damned K20D don't even try with TC attached :( > > Random tourist (Tallinn Old City is full of 'em) shot at f/5.6. I was > going to shoot a church tower in background and she simply > walked into > the frame... > http://nagi.ee/photos/photo_sizes.php?id=10408771&size=o&album > _id=148643 > (full size, untouched jpeg from camera) > > So, boys and girls, we're doomed. There's nothing to whine > about Pentax > (long zoom) lenses quality any more - all those hundreds and > thousands > of crappy pictures will be our own fault. > > BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Zion
I much prefer the second one. Churchyards with headstones are rare in "the colonies", and you might consider using a low perspective with some headstones in the foreground. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Sun, 4/26/09, Dan Matyola wrote: > My church is starting a five year education program leading > to the 300th anniversary of the founding of the > congregation. I will be trying to take some images to > capture the feeling of the church building, erected in 1750. > It is in the middle of a rural village, with a number of > fine old homes. Most of what I have so far is too trite to > be used, so I am looking for different angles to capture the > building and its surroundings. I like these to some extent, > and want to return when the light and sky is better. > > Comments welcome. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9053650 > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9053649 > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography
> > > It looks like she's had to sell the copyrights to just about > her entire body > of work to pay of debts, she may end up at Target yet. > Do they have portrait studios? > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcris > is/4805404/Annie-Leibovitz-pawns-copyright-to-lifes-work-to-pa > y-debts.html > > William Robb > > Jeez. How do supposedly smart people get themselves into such stupid positions? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Tangled Tractor
Looks like it deserves a rest. Nature is giving it a warm place to retire. Jack --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Rick Womer wrote: > From: Rick Womer > Subject: PESO - Tangled Tractor > To: pdml@pdml.net > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 1:54 PM > Another from our country walk near Hook Norton. It > doesn't look as though it will be going anywhere soon. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9077175 > > (K10D and DA 16-45) > > Rick > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
- Original Message - From: "Margus Männik" Subject: Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots > Random tourist (Tallinn Old City is full of 'em) shot at f/5.6. I was > going to shoot a church tower in background and she simply walked into the > frame... > http://nagi.ee/photos/photo_sizes.php?id=10408771&size=o&album_id=148643 > (full size, untouched jpeg from camera) > > So, boys and girls, we're doomed. There's nothing to whine about Pentax > (long zoom) lenses quality any more - all those hundreds and thousands of > crappy pictures will be our own fault. Damn. This kind of things might make me change my plans William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West
- Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" Subject: Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West > > I know. Many years ago, I hankered for a new set of golf clubs and could > sense some resistance from the "treasurer". About the same time I saw a > boat that was just what I had been thinking about. I pointed it out to my > wife and mentioned the price (something like $2,000 USD). Back then the > pro-line matched swing-weight clubs were only around $175. > Short time later I told my wife that I thought I'd pass on the boat and > get the clubs. It was met with a slight smile and a look of relief. I wore > those clubs out. > Ya see, Bill I'm w a y ahead of ya'. ;) > You are probably way older.. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Horses
I appreciate the setting and like the idea, but asking for an awful lot of DoF. Absolutely worth trying. Jack --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Rick Womer wrote: > From: Rick Womer > Subject: PESO - Horses > To: pdml@pdml.net > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 1:51 PM > We came upon these horses during a country walk near Hook > Norton, Oxfordshire last weekend. Lovely countryside, and > The Sun Inn in the town does a marvelous pint of Hooky > Bitter. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9077174 > > (K10D and DA 50-200) > > Rick > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: View from The Pavilion
Paul, it's a nice and beautifully rendered pic, but a bit creepy--everything is so empty, and so clean, that it reminds me of the computer-generated views that architects produce. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Paul Stenquist wrote: > While shooting virtual tours for real estate, I sometimes > come across unusual buildings. I shot tours at a building in > downtown Detroit the other day that surprised me. Built in > 1957, it struck me as having been well ahead of its time. > The architectural style looked familiar, so I checked when I > got home and discovered that it was designed by Mies van der > Rohe and is on the National Register of Historic Places. The > exterior of the 20 story apartment building is mostly > windows, framed in metal. The lobby is all black marble. > It's in excellent condition and 95% occupied. The > building is situated at the eastern edge of downtown, and > its framed by a nice little park. The attached pic is the > view from a 15th floor apartment. You can see the GM > building (formerly the Renaissance Center and quite possibly > soon to be something else) at the far left. Ford Field, the > domed stadium, is at the far right. The shot is a composite > of three frames from the pano I shot in this apartment. > They're 16mm verticals, f13 @ about 1/4 second, ISO 200. > Click to make it larger: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9074706 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography
- Original Message - From: "Miserere" Subject: Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography > Disclaimer: I liked Annie's work back when I was a young lad in the > late 80's and had NO idea what photography was, just that one day I > would like to be a photographer (by which I just mean "make pictures", > not necessarily be a pro). At some point, Annie started living off her > fame and stopped doing stuff only SHE could do. When I see her work on > Vanity Fair right now, or the myriad ad campaigns she's shot for, I > see nothing that some other photographer couldn't have accomplished. I > feel like she was paid just so the client could say "Annie shot it for > us". Plus, there is so much Photoshop manipulation (not that there's > anything wrong with that in an ad campaign) that whatever residual of > Annie's magic may have remained in the frames was smudge tool'd out. > But hey, if somebody wants to pay me $1 million to hang around > superstars and press the shutter release when the Art director tells > me to, I'll do it. Of course, Annie could have principles and say > 'no'. She could also live on the street and work weekends at Target. > I think she did what she had to do, which is what all of us would have > done in her place. > It looks like she's had to sell the copyrights to just about her entire body of work to pay of debts, she may end up at Target yet. Do they have portrait studios? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/4805404/Annie-Leibovitz-pawns-copyright-to-lifes-work-to-pay-debts.html William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
Well, today I can laugh :) Loud:))) Decided to defy all those viruses and bacilluses and went out to shoot. DA*60-250 is SUPER. Yes, naturally it's quite heavy and large for my weak body (and I hate its price tag), but it paints pictures like some long-focus-rembrandt. Sharp focus right from wide open, nice bokeh. And by the way - yes, it is 100% usable with AF film body. Even 101% as my Z-1p focuses automatically with 2x Kenko TC. Slowly, but firmly. Damned K20D don't even try with TC attached :( Random tourist (Tallinn Old City is full of 'em) shot at f/5.6. I was going to shoot a church tower in background and she simply walked into the frame... http://nagi.ee/photos/photo_sizes.php?id=10408771&size=o&album_id=148643 (full size, untouched jpeg from camera) So, boys and girls, we're doomed. There's nothing to whine about Pentax (long zoom) lenses quality any more - all those hundreds and thousands of crappy pictures will be our own fault. BR, Margus Jack Davis wrote: LoL.. J -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2009 - 058 - GDG
I really liked it when I took a quick look this morning, Godders. I went back this evening for a more careful look, and it's gone. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Sat, 4/25/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Very early two or three days ago, this bit of light through > the blinds struck my eye somehow. > > http://homepage.mac.com/godders/058-058-dawnthroughblinds.jpg > "Dawn Light Through Blinds" - Sunnyvale 2009 > Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4 > ISO 100 @ f/1.4 @ 1/1250 sec > > Comments always appreciated. > > enjoy, > Godfrey > -- > www.gdgphoto.com > www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets > twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West
I know. Many years ago, I hankered for a new set of golf clubs and could sense some resistance from the "treasurer". About the same time I saw a boat that was just what I had been thinking about. I pointed it out to my wife and mentioned the price (something like $2,000 USD). Back then the pro-line matched swing-weight clubs were only around $175. Short time later I told my wife that I thought I'd pass on the boat and get the clubs. It was met with a slight smile and a look of relief. I wore those clubs out. Ya see, Bill I'm w a y ahead of ya'. ;) Jack --- On Wed, 4/29/09, William Robb wrote: > From: William Robb > Subject: Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 12:29 PM > - Original Message - > From: "Jack Davis" > Subject: Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West > > > > > > My wife ought to be happy I don't intend to buy > one of these. > > What a "beautiful" machine. > > > > And how much money can you save by buying a 60-250 instead? > Food for thought > > William Robb > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Aston Martin on Queen West
Nice car, nice exposure, and nice panning! Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 4/29/09, frank theriault wrote: > Another lame title, but one of my favourite cars: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/04/aston-martin-on-queen-west.html > > I wish I had a bit more space in front of the car, but > that's the edge > of the frame. > > Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Tangled Tractor
Another from our country walk near Hook Norton. It doesn't look as though it will be going anywhere soon. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9077175 (K10D and DA 16-45) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K 7 D FFN
On Apr 29, 2009, at 13:37 , Miserere wrote: Don't worry JoMac, you'll feel better once the K-7 is in your hands. You do have a spare $1,500, right? :-) If I did, I'd go to GFM first, then worry about a new camera body. My hoarding mindset has made it difficult to sell my older camera equipment. I really have no need for any of my film cameras. I have to let all my frozen film go. First $4500 can have it all. Cameras, Film, cases, film holders. backs, lighting, etc. Off List. I'll be waiting. 2009/4/29 Joseph McAllister : I feel so small. I was fooled and am now debunked... Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
