Re: OT Monument Valley Utah / Arizona need advice
Actually, I found it amusing. It's always fun to be the center of
attention:-)
The most fun I had with spectators while shooting a commercial was in
San Francisco at city hall. We converted city hall into an opera
house and shot overnight. (City Hall looks a lot more like an opera
house than the nearby opera house.) Some of the commercial took place
on the front steps. Hundreds of people in formal dress descended the
stairs as the performance ended and got into their limos, which, of
course, included numerous Lincoln Town Cars. Apparently some
activists heard about the shoot and turned out in full force. Some of
us wore headphones so we could hear the director on the large set, so
it looked like we were recording sound. We weren't. But when the
director saw the hundreds of protesters lined up across the street,
he didn't want to disappoint them. So before he gave his Roll film
command, he did an extra loud Roll Sound. That initiated a chant
from the protesters, who screamed at the top of their voices: Less
money for cars! More money for AIDS! Good times were had by all.
Paul
On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:12 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Hope you've gotten over the shame of being one of those yelled
at. :-]]
Sounds like a bunch of happy people having a really swell time on
vacation. G
Jack
--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I shot a Buick commercial on 163. Of course it was a bit intrusive
with half a dozen trucks and a crew of 30. We were up toward the top
of the road looking back toward MV. It was about this cowboy who was
driving his Roadmaster back to New Jersey to visit his mama (no
kidding). Anyway, people who drove buy screamed things at us like,
Get the F out of the road. Shove that big pig of a Buick up your A.
And things like that. Lots of fun. But no one likes a big film crew
in the middle of their vacation.
Paul
On Aug 2, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
A shot on a wet 163 is one I'll never forget.
Don't recall who took it, but the highway was set in black and
appeared
as a silver ribbon extending from the camera to the far off
monuments.
When there, I kind of hope for a short rain late in the day, so I
could
steal the idea.
Jack
--- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Jack, I had not read your post when I wrote mine - I'm a
Goulding's fan from way back.
I was also going to suggest that heading up 163 toward
Mexican hat there are spectacular views of
the valley and other things like the Rapley anticline that
are great photo fodder.
ann
Jack Davis wrote:
Tom,
If you want to go in prior to the formal opening time, be
prepared
to
PAY dearly for a guide. You will have no choice. Guide or
nothing.
If I
remember, it cost us (3) $40 ea. Sunrise is prior to daily
opening
time.
We had been in the previous pm and knew exactly where we wanted
to
be,
but we were not given a choice.
I had a 4-WD, but many didn't and at that time,('prox 3 yes ago)
the
road/trail didn't require it.
There is a day use picnic area I saw, but don't believe there is
a
camping place there. I'm putting up a shot taken from the picnic
area.
(Used orange filter)
Recommend close by Goulding's Lodge, 2 mi. off US 163 and
Goulding's
Jct. All services and a bit of history.
The lodge is perched on a side bluff which affords a nice area
view. It
overlooks a small airport where, at least at one time, provided
light
fixed wing aircraft flights over the Valley.
I have no financial interest in Goulding's, but am furnishing
their
'phone no. in case: (435) 727-3231.
Jack
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Re: OT Monument Valley Utah / Arizona need advice
I like the Director.
Nice blend of centered folks and the 'fringe'.
Jack
--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, I found it amusing. It's always fun to be the center of
attention:-)
The most fun I had with spectators while shooting a commercial was in
San Francisco at city hall. We converted city hall into an opera
house and shot overnight. (City Hall looks a lot more like an opera
house than the nearby opera house.) Some of the commercial took place
on the front steps. Hundreds of people in formal dress descended the
stairs as the performance ended and got into their limos, which, of
course, included numerous Lincoln Town Cars. Apparently some
activists heard about the shoot and turned out in full force. Some of
us wore headphones so we could hear the director on the large set, so
it looked like we were recording sound. We weren't. But when the
director saw the hundreds of protesters lined up across the street,
he didn't want to disappoint them. So before he gave his Roll film
command, he did an extra loud Roll Sound. That initiated a chant
from the protesters, who screamed at the top of their voices: Less
money for cars! More money for AIDS! Good times were had by all.
Paul
On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:12 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Hope you've gotten over the shame of being one of those yelled
at. :-]]
Sounds like a bunch of happy people having a really swell time on
vacation. G
Jack
--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I shot a Buick commercial on 163. Of course it was a bit intrusive
with half a dozen trucks and a crew of 30. We were up toward the
top
of the road looking back toward MV. It was about this cowboy who
was
driving his Roadmaster back to New Jersey to visit his mama (no
kidding). Anyway, people who drove buy screamed things at us like,
Get the F out of the road. Shove that big pig of a Buick up your
A.
And things like that. Lots of fun. But no one likes a big film
crew
in the middle of their vacation.
Paul
On Aug 2, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
A shot on a wet 163 is one I'll never forget.
Don't recall who took it, but the highway was set in black and
appeared
as a silver ribbon extending from the camera to the far off
monuments.
When there, I kind of hope for a short rain late in the day, so I
could
steal the idea.
Jack
--- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Jack, I had not read your post when I wrote mine - I'm a
Goulding's fan from way back.
I was also going to suggest that heading up 163 toward
Mexican hat there are spectacular views of
the valley and other things like the Rapley anticline that
are great photo fodder.
ann
Jack Davis wrote:
Tom,
If you want to go in prior to the formal opening time, be
prepared
to
PAY dearly for a guide. You will have no choice. Guide or
nothing.
If I
remember, it cost us (3) $40 ea. Sunrise is prior to daily
opening
time.
We had been in the previous pm and knew exactly where we wanted
to
be,
but we were not given a choice.
I had a 4-WD, but many didn't and at that time,('prox 3 yes
ago)
the
road/trail didn't require it.
There is a day use picnic area I saw, but don't believe there
is
a
camping place there. I'm putting up a shot taken from the
picnic
area.
(Used orange filter)
Recommend close by Goulding's Lodge, 2 mi. off US 163 and
Goulding's
Jct. All services and a bit of history.
The lodge is perched on a side bluff which affords a nice area
view. It
overlooks a small airport where, at least at one time, provided
light
fixed wing aircraft flights over the Valley.
I have no financial interest in Goulding's, but am furnishing
their
'phone no. in case: (435) 727-3231.
Jack
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I'm putting a tour together and Monument Valley is one of the places we want to visit. I understand that we'll need to rent a 4 WD vehicle and hire a tour guide? Does anyone have any advice they'd care to pass along? We'd like to camp in Monument Valley if possible. Are there any campgrounds with showers? thanks for any help you can offer. Tom Reese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Tom Reese wrote: I'm putting a tour together and Monument Valley is one of the places we want to visit. I understand that we'll need to rent a 4 WD vehicle and hire a tour guide? Does anyone have any advice they'd care to pass along? Just show up at the visitor center and hire a local with a jeep. That appears to be the way it's done; they'll take you out as long as you want and it seemed like a good deal to me. I went last year (again) and spent 3 hrs. out there. I'm not sure that you can hire your own car and then get a native american to take you in; my impression was that you only used their jeep. They know a lot of good spots for photos, but you'll need to manage the time of day=lighting. We'd like to camp in Monument Valley if possible. Are there any campgrounds with showers? Sorry, don't know about that. thanks for any help you can offer. Tom Reese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 8/2/06, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm putting a tour together and Monument Valley is one of the places we want to visit. I understand that we'll need to rent a 4 WD vehicle and hire a tour guide? Does anyone have any advice they'd care to pass along? We'd like to camp in Monument Valley if possible. Are there any campgrounds with showers? thanks for any help you can offer. Can I go? I'll drive the Xterra! g -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Tom,
If you want to go in prior to the formal opening time, be prepared to
PAY dearly for a guide. You will have no choice. Guide or nothing. If I
remember, it cost us (3) $40 ea. Sunrise is prior to daily opening
time.
We had been in the previous pm and knew exactly where we wanted to be,
but we were not given a choice.
I had a 4-WD, but many didn't and at that time,('prox 3 yes ago) the
road/trail didn't require it.
There is a day use picnic area I saw, but don't believe there is a
camping place there. I'm putting up a shot taken from the picnic area.
(Used orange filter)
Recommend close by Goulding's Lodge, 2 mi. off US 163 and Goulding's
Jct. All services and a bit of history.
The lodge is perched on a side bluff which affords a nice area view. It
overlooks a small airport where, at least at one time, provided light
fixed wing aircraft flights over the Valley.
I have no financial interest in Goulding's, but am furnishing their
'phone no. in case: (435) 727-3231.
Jack
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--- Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm putting a tour together and Monument Valley is one of the places
we want to visit. I understand that we'll need to rent a 4 WD vehicle
and hire a tour guide?
Does anyone have any advice they'd care to pass along?
We'd like to camp in Monument Valley if possible. Are there any
campgrounds with showers?
thanks for any help you can offer.
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-- Original message -- From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 8/2/06, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm putting a tour together and Monument Valley is one of the places we want to visit. I understand that we'll need to rent a 4 WD vehicle and hire a tour guide? Does anyone have any advice they'd care to pass along? We'd like to camp in Monument Valley if possible. Are there any campgrounds with showers? thanks for any help you can offer. Can I go? I'll drive the Xterra! g I don't know. Your tires seem to be a little unreliable... grinning right back Tom -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 8/2/06, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Original message -- From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 8/2/06, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm putting a tour together and Monument Valley is one of the places we want to visit. I understand that we'll need to rent a 4 WD vehicle and hire a tour guide? Does anyone have any advice they'd care to pass along? We'd like to camp in Monument Valley if possible. Are there any campgrounds with showers? thanks for any help you can offer. Can I go? I'll drive the Xterra! g I don't know. Your tires seem to be a little unreliable... grinning right back Point taken. Here's hoping the new tires don't explode at 70 MPH. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In a message dated 8/2/2006 7:44:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm putting a tour together and Monument Valley is one of the places we want to visit. I understand that we'll need to rent a 4 WD vehicle and hire a tour guide? Does anyone have any advice they'd care to pass along? We'd like to camp in Monument Valley if possible. Are there any campgrounds with showers? thanks for any help you can offer. Tom Reese In something I read recently, no, you can drive the main part in a regular car. It's a 17 mile circuit, but a passenger car can do it. But to really see it, go off the beaten path for the best shots, yes, you also need to go on one of the private tours. Tourists are not allowed to wander off the main road without a guide. That is based on a book for photographers, Photographing the Southwest, Volume 2, by Laurent Martres. HTH, Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Tom, New AAA Tour Guide indicates that there is camping available in the area. We stayed at Goulding's Lodge where one of our party found a scorpion hanging on the back of one of his window drapes. We through off our bedding and did a search. Found nothing, but suspect I took a little longer to go to sleep than I, otherwise, might have. Don't know about the camping thing. Travel trailer/RV, maybe. :) Been there twice. Very loosely run by a Navajo staff. BTW, taking their picture is not recommended without asking. If asked, may cost you a little. Others are superstitious; Steals their spirit...or... Last time there was in early Nov.. Bitter, icy, stiff East wind caused us to seek any shelter available. Stopped at Zion Canyon on way and waited til Nov. to be allowed to drive the Canyon. Jack --- Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Original message -- From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 8/2/06, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm putting a tour together and Monument Valley is one of the places we want to visit. I understand that we'll need to rent a 4 WD vehicle and hire a tour guide? Does anyone have any advice they'd care to pass along? We'd like to camp in Monument Valley if possible. Are there any campgrounds with showers? thanks for any help you can offer. Can I go? I'll drive the Xterra! g I don't know. Your tires seem to be a little unreliable... grinning right back Tom -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT Monument Valley Utah / Arizona need advice
Tom Reese wrote: I'm putting a tour together and Monument Valley is one of the places we want to visit. I understand that we'll need to rent a 4 WD vehicle and hire a tour guide? Does anyone have any advice they'd care to pass along? We'd like to camp in Monument Valley if possible. Are there any campgrounds with showers? thanks for any help you can offer. Tom Reese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Tom - one word - GOULDING'S! The camp ground is right near the motel... It is a famous old trading post and waking up in the morning with a view of the buttes is very special -- not to mention dusk... It is right across the road from the entrance to the Monument but it isn't actually on the res. Lucky you! ann check it out on the web -- You can drive the road in the official park/monument in a car - but you will not be able to get to the real back country that way. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT Monument Valley Utah / Arizona need advice
Hi Jack, I had not read your post when I wrote mine - I'm a
Goulding's fan from way back.
I was also going to suggest that heading up 163 toward
Mexican hat there are spectacular views of
the valley and other things like the Rapley anticline that
are great photo fodder.
ann
Jack Davis wrote:
Tom,
If you want to go in prior to the formal opening time, be prepared to
PAY dearly for a guide. You will have no choice. Guide or nothing. If I
remember, it cost us (3) $40 ea. Sunrise is prior to daily opening
time.
We had been in the previous pm and knew exactly where we wanted to be,
but we were not given a choice.
I had a 4-WD, but many didn't and at that time,('prox 3 yes ago) the
road/trail didn't require it.
There is a day use picnic area I saw, but don't believe there is a
camping place there. I'm putting up a shot taken from the picnic area.
(Used orange filter)
Recommend close by Goulding's Lodge, 2 mi. off US 163 and Goulding's
Jct. All services and a bit of history.
The lodge is perched on a side bluff which affords a nice area view. It
overlooks a small airport where, at least at one time, provided light
fixed wing aircraft flights over the Valley.
I have no financial interest in Goulding's, but am furnishing their
'phone no. in case: (435) 727-3231.
Jack
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Re: OT Monument Valley Utah / Arizona need advice
Hello Tom, When we went last year, I looked up all the tours available and finally settled upon this one: http://www.faroutexpeditions.com/ The big attractions to this one were the ability to have the trip custom tailored to our desires and the AIR CONDITIONED 4wd van. Also the knowledge and personal service of our guide, Vaughn, was exceptional. So I arranged with Vaughn's wife to have an afternoon/evening tour, instead of the regular tour he does. We switched the lunch at a hogan to a dinner that they provided for us. We stayed overnight in Bluff, UT (multiple choices) which is where the tour heads out from. On the way down, Vaughn gave us some background on the area and told us quite a bit about the terrain besides Monument Valley. He leads many expeditions for photographers seeking out indian ruins and such outside of MV. We left just after lunch and he took us in to MV and took the back roads tour. But, he allowed us to stop anywhere and stay for as long as we liked. He told us all about the things we saw and was great company. A little later towards evening, he took us to the picnic area and laid out a wonderful dinner spread. It was so cool to eat in the middle of MV and have such a nice dinner. Then we drove all over trying to decide where to catch the sunset. We must have gone about 5 or 6 places before we settled on a spot. After sunset he drove us back to Bluff and we spent the night in one of the local motels. All told, we spent about 9 hours with him. It was well worth the trip. Everyone in our group was more than thrilled with the experience and the hospitality. If I were to go again, I would book this one for sure. HTH, Bruce Wednesday, August 2, 2006, 7:24:13 AM, you wrote: TR I'm putting a tour together and Monument Valley is one of the TR places we want to visit. I understand that we'll need to rent a 4 TR WD vehicle and hire a tour guide? TR Does anyone have any advice they'd care to pass along? TR We'd like to camp in Monument Valley if possible. Are there any campgrounds with showers? TR thanks for any help you can offer. TR Tom Reese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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A shot on a wet 163 is one I'll never forget.
Don't recall who took it, but the highway was set in black and appeared
as a silver ribbon extending from the camera to the far off monuments.
When there, I kind of hope for a short rain late in the day, so I could
steal the idea.
Jack
--- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Jack, I had not read your post when I wrote mine - I'm a
Goulding's fan from way back.
I was also going to suggest that heading up 163 toward
Mexican hat there are spectacular views of
the valley and other things like the Rapley anticline that
are great photo fodder.
ann
Jack Davis wrote:
Tom,
If you want to go in prior to the formal opening time, be prepared
to
PAY dearly for a guide. You will have no choice. Guide or nothing.
If I
remember, it cost us (3) $40 ea. Sunrise is prior to daily opening
time.
We had been in the previous pm and knew exactly where we wanted to
be,
but we were not given a choice.
I had a 4-WD, but many didn't and at that time,('prox 3 yes ago)
the
road/trail didn't require it.
There is a day use picnic area I saw, but don't believe there is a
camping place there. I'm putting up a shot taken from the picnic
area.
(Used orange filter)
Recommend close by Goulding's Lodge, 2 mi. off US 163 and
Goulding's
Jct. All services and a bit of history.
The lodge is perched on a side bluff which affords a nice area
view. It
overlooks a small airport where, at least at one time, provided
light
fixed wing aircraft flights over the Valley.
I have no financial interest in Goulding's, but am furnishing their
'phone no. in case: (435) 727-3231.
Jack
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Re: OT Monument Valley Utah / Arizona need advice
- Original Message - From: Tom Reese Subject: OT Monument Valley Utah / Arizona need advice I'm putting a tour together and Monument Valley is one of the places we want to visit. I understand that we'll need to rent a 4 WD vehicle and hire a tour guide? Does anyone have any advice they'd care to pass along? We'd like to camp in Monument Valley if possible. Are there any campgrounds with showers? thanks for any help you can offer. Things may have changed since I was last there.. Primitive camping was available right in the valley, but had virtually no amenities. Limited water and pit poilets was about it. As others have mentioned, better camping is available close by. There is an access road in the valley that is passable by regular vehicles. If you want to go off the beaten path, you have to hire a guide. The valley is effectively on private land, BTW, and the Navaho are pretty particular people when it comes to their sacred places. Monumant Valley is one of those places. If you want another nice place to visit in the region, consider Kodachrome Basin. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I shot a Buick commercial on 163. Of course it was a bit intrusive
with half a dozen trucks and a crew of 30. We were up toward the top
of the road looking back toward MV. It was about this cowboy who was
driving his Roadmaster back to New Jersey to visit his mama (no
kidding). Anyway, people who drove buy screamed things at us like,
Get the F out of the road. Shove that big pig of a Buick up your A.
And things like that. Lots of fun. But no one likes a big film crew
in the middle of their vacation.
Paul
On Aug 2, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
A shot on a wet 163 is one I'll never forget.
Don't recall who took it, but the highway was set in black and
appeared
as a silver ribbon extending from the camera to the far off monuments.
When there, I kind of hope for a short rain late in the day, so I
could
steal the idea.
Jack
--- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Jack, I had not read your post when I wrote mine - I'm a
Goulding's fan from way back.
I was also going to suggest that heading up 163 toward
Mexican hat there are spectacular views of
the valley and other things like the Rapley anticline that
are great photo fodder.
ann
Jack Davis wrote:
Tom,
If you want to go in prior to the formal opening time, be prepared
to
PAY dearly for a guide. You will have no choice. Guide or nothing.
If I
remember, it cost us (3) $40 ea. Sunrise is prior to daily opening
time.
We had been in the previous pm and knew exactly where we wanted to
be,
but we were not given a choice.
I had a 4-WD, but many didn't and at that time,('prox 3 yes ago)
the
road/trail didn't require it.
There is a day use picnic area I saw, but don't believe there is a
camping place there. I'm putting up a shot taken from the picnic
area.
(Used orange filter)
Recommend close by Goulding's Lodge, 2 mi. off US 163 and
Goulding's
Jct. All services and a bit of history.
The lodge is perched on a side bluff which affords a nice area
view. It
overlooks a small airport where, at least at one time, provided
light
fixed wing aircraft flights over the Valley.
I have no financial interest in Goulding's, but am furnishing their
'phone no. in case: (435) 727-3231.
Jack
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Re: OT Monument Valley Utah / Arizona need advice
Hope you've gotten over the shame of being one of those yelled at. :-]]
Sounds like a bunch of happy people having a really swell time on
vacation. G
Jack
--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I shot a Buick commercial on 163. Of course it was a bit intrusive
with half a dozen trucks and a crew of 30. We were up toward the top
of the road looking back toward MV. It was about this cowboy who was
driving his Roadmaster back to New Jersey to visit his mama (no
kidding). Anyway, people who drove buy screamed things at us like,
Get the F out of the road. Shove that big pig of a Buick up your A.
And things like that. Lots of fun. But no one likes a big film crew
in the middle of their vacation.
Paul
On Aug 2, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
A shot on a wet 163 is one I'll never forget.
Don't recall who took it, but the highway was set in black and
appeared
as a silver ribbon extending from the camera to the far off
monuments.
When there, I kind of hope for a short rain late in the day, so I
could
steal the idea.
Jack
--- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Jack, I had not read your post when I wrote mine - I'm a
Goulding's fan from way back.
I was also going to suggest that heading up 163 toward
Mexican hat there are spectacular views of
the valley and other things like the Rapley anticline that
are great photo fodder.
ann
Jack Davis wrote:
Tom,
If you want to go in prior to the formal opening time, be
prepared
to
PAY dearly for a guide. You will have no choice. Guide or
nothing.
If I
remember, it cost us (3) $40 ea. Sunrise is prior to daily
opening
time.
We had been in the previous pm and knew exactly where we wanted
to
be,
but we were not given a choice.
I had a 4-WD, but many didn't and at that time,('prox 3 yes ago)
the
road/trail didn't require it.
There is a day use picnic area I saw, but don't believe there is
a
camping place there. I'm putting up a shot taken from the picnic
area.
(Used orange filter)
Recommend close by Goulding's Lodge, 2 mi. off US 163 and
Goulding's
Jct. All services and a bit of history.
The lodge is perched on a side bluff which affords a nice area
view. It
overlooks a small airport where, at least at one time, provided
light
fixed wing aircraft flights over the Valley.
I have no financial interest in Goulding's, but am furnishing
their
'phone no. in case: (435) 727-3231.
Jack
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