RE: Goose Creek Symphony

1999-04-27 Thread Roy Kasten


Kip says:

  Oh, I'd rather not incriminate myself in public, Roy. St. Louis is
  a small town g.

Well, I think I get out to clubs pretty frequently and I've yet to observe the 
tie-died masses playing all manner of fiddles and mandolins.  I think you're 
overstating it when you say "it's all the rage" here.  It's not, and, to be honest, 
I'm not sure it'd be a bad thing if it were.  It's about time something killed 
warmed-over alternative rock, and it probably won't be this long haired folkie's long 
songs about long rivers.

Roy Kasten
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Re: Goose Creek Symphony

1999-04-26 Thread Dave Purcell

Bob Soron wrote:

 I'd rather have a 5-minute guitar solo than a 20-second drum solo.

Oooh, I dunno about that. A short, tasteful drum solo (no, that is 
not an oxymoron!) in the hands of the right guy is thing of beauty. I 
guess I'm thinking mostly about jazz and big band drummers, 
rather than rock guys. I had the pleasure of watching Ed 
Shaughnessy (sp?) from the Tonight Show band play at my 
college, and my god, he was amazing. Ditto with Buddy Rich 
solos. Or Louie Belson.

Now, that ham-fisted shit that John Bonham did in Song Remains 
the Same...yeah, that's awful. Set the reputation of drummers back 
20 years.

And I will confess to digging Neil Peart's solos simply from a 
technical standpoint -- the guy is friggin' amazing. Plus, it's fun to 
watch 10,000 16-year-old boys drool at the same time.

Some of my best friends are hippies (and not the kids-of-Boomers-
driving-BMWs type either)...

Dave


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RE: Goose Creek Symphony

1999-04-26 Thread louicm



On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Roy Kasten wrote:

 
  Kip writes:
 
  It's becoming all da rage here in St. Louis, too: half-proficient
  tie-dyed youth playing fiddles, mandolins, banjos and Martin
  guitars.
 
 Who do you have in mind here, Kip?

Oh, I'd rather not incriminate myself in public, Roy. St. Louis is
a small town g. Next time I see you out, we'll talk. But consult the
schedule at Cicero's for an idea of what's brewing here. The booker there,
Chad Jacobs, figures the relocated club needs a niche and is aiming his
sights at "the hippy kids, 'cause they drink a lot of beer". 

Kip
   
 
 



RE: Goose Creek Symphony

1999-04-26 Thread Matt Benz



 And I will confess to digging Neil Peart's solos simply from a 
 technical standpoint -- the guy is friggin' amazing. Plus, it's fun to
 
 watch 10,000 16-year-old boys drool at the same time.
 
[Matt Benz]  Hell of a lyric writer, too.  Deep. Very Deep.




Re: Goose Creek Symphony

1999-04-26 Thread louicm


On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Terry A. Smith wrote:

 Yeah, it's a hoot to make fun of defenseless hippies, but lots more fun if
 a couple of 'em come roaring up beside your pickup truck, and flip you off
 when you make an off-hand comment about their hair.

Doh!
 
 Seriously, though, it's not nice to stereotype folks, or assume consensus
 on this notion than any guitar solo over 30 seconds is self-indulgent. As
 a former Deadhead, who now wonders what I ever saw in them, I'm not ready
 just yet to join in the ridicule. Unless I was completely clueless as a
 teen (OK, stop laughing!), there must have been something going with the
 Dead and Quicksilver and Canned Heat and the other 60s jam bands that too
 many lousy bands are emulating (along with a few good ones) these days.

Oh, I agree, actually. In fact, I still enjoy pulling out the
Dead's "Workingman's Dead" and "American Beauty" from time to time, and I
think Quicksilver had something to 'em, as well. Although long, meandering
jams are of course what the Grateful Dead are (in)famous for, I'd argue
that there are some good *songs* there, too--ones no longer than 4
minutes, to boot. I'd also have to say that it was groups like the Dead
and the Band and even the Buffalo Springfield who first opened my ears to
country music sounds.
   
 
No, I honestly bear no grudges against hippies, per se g. Truth
is, I find their booming interest in bluegrass and acoustic music to be
kind of interesting in a anthropological way. I assume the gateway from
"Dark Star" to "Rank Strangers" is all those Jerry Garcia Acoustic Band
albums?...

Kip

 
   
 



Re: Goose Creek Symphony

1999-04-26 Thread Hiroshi Ogura

On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Bob Soron wrote:
 
 I'd rather have a 5-minute guitar solo than a 20-second drum solo.

Hey!  What's wrong with "Wipeout"!?  :-)

--Hiroshi



Re: Goose Creek Symphony

1999-04-25 Thread louicm

Heh heh...Marie comments on the alarmingly growing ranks of
faux bluegrass and hippy acoustic bands.

It's becoming all da rage here in St. Louis, too: half-proficient
tie-dyed youth playing fiddles, mandolins, banjos and Martin
guitars. Whatever, but the music is just as deadly dull played acoustic as
it was with Stratocasters. Still, it's had the positive if
unintentional side affect of giving a core group of stone bluegrass
and old-timey musicians some of their best paying gigs in years.

Kip 






Re: Goose Creek Symphony

1999-04-25 Thread katahdin

Kip wrote:

   Heh heh...Marie comments on the alarmingly growing ranks of
faux bluegrass and hippy acoustic bands.
   
   It's becoming all da rage here in St. Louis, too: 
half-proficient
tie-dyed youth playing fiddles, mandolins, banjos and Martin
guitars. Whatever, but the music is just as deadly dull played 
acoustic as
it was with Stratocasters.

It **is** dull, but give the little hackeysackers credit for at least
being openminded enough to accept a little twang without recoiling in
revulsion. Naked Omaha opened up for a hippydippyjammywhammyphishywishy
band from W Va called The Recipe a while back. I figured it'd be a horror
show, but their fans actually seemed to appreciate the twang in our
music. It was a pleasant surprise. 

Steve Kirsch
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RE: Goose Creek Symphony

1999-04-25 Thread Roy Kasten

 
 Kip writes:

 It's becoming all da rage here in St. Louis, too: half-proficient
 tie-dyed youth playing fiddles, mandolins, banjos and Martin
 guitars.

Who do you have in mind here, Kip?

Roy



Re: Goose Creek Symphony

1999-04-25 Thread rousley



marie arsenault wrote:

 noodling, noodling. We stayed for about 30 - 45 minutes -
 just long enough for the first song. g

I'm sure if we had stayed any longer we would've started smelling that "I'm
a deadhead and I've been so stoned I forgot to take a bath" body odor. g

  They did have great harmonies. And they seemed like talented
 players. The songs were just so long and, I don't know, boring,


There were so many players they didn't fit on the stage.  I betcha that
looney waitress at the Sutler dug 'em though.  Today when at a record store
I saw one of their cds.  I made a mental note to buy a copy of it for your
birthday, Marie.

Ronni







Re: Goose Creek Symphony

1999-04-25 Thread marie arsenault

Ronni:
I'm sure if we had stayed any longer we would've started smelling that "I'm
a deadhead and I've been so stoned I forgot to take a bath" body odor. g

or patchouli!

Today when at a record store
I saw one of their cds.  I made a mental note to buy a copy of it for your
birthday, Marie.

I have such thoughtful friends. I would much prefer a Goose Creek cd than,
say, a Haggard box set. Gotta run. I'm feeling the urge to spin my Dave
Matthews and Beefheart cds. g Right after I gouge my eyes out with a spoon.

marie 




Re: Goose Creek Symphony

1999-04-25 Thread marie arsenault

Terry Smith:
assume consensus
on this notion that any guitar solo over 30 seconds is self-indulgent. 

30 seconds, no. Over 5 minutes, perhaps.

Terry:
But personally I'd rather see folks stick with critiquing the music, than
taking on such god-awfully easy targets. 

Now that's a very hippie-ish thing to say. g But, your point is taken.
You're right. Hippies are god-awful easy targets. Now folk-singers

Hey, I may not have dated a hippie, but some of my best friends
certainly *look* like hippies. 

marie (disclaimer: no hippies or hippie-wannabes were harmed in
the making of this post)



Re: Goose Creek Symphony

1999-04-25 Thread Bob Soron

At 12:20 AM -0500  on 4/26/99, marie arsenault wrote:

Terry Smith:
assume consensus
on this notion that any guitar solo over 30 seconds is self-indulgent.

30 seconds, no. Over 5 minutes, perhaps.

I'd rather have a 5-minute guitar solo than a 20-second drum solo.


Bob