Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mail list bounce messages

[Délsio Cabá]

Hi Eric,

I have in  /var/qmail/control/taps:
MAILER-DAEMON@my_server_hostname:postmaster@my_server_hostname

Regards

On 19 March 2012 22:13, Eric Shubert  wrote:

> What was the regex you used?
> (You probably listed it once, but please again)
>
>
> On 03/19/2012 01:00 PM, Délsio Cabá wrote:
>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Regarding taps, I tried to tal mailer-daemon and it didn't work :(
>>
>> Any clues?
>>
>> On 19 March 2012 20:58, Eric Shubert > > wrote:
>>
>>On 03/19/2012 11:06 AM, dnk wrote:
>>
>>Is there a way to get messages that bounce to a particular list
>>to go to
>>a specific address?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>D
>>
>>
>>Taps?
>>
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Open Standards

[Bharath Chari]

On Monday 19 March 2012 11:20 PM, Délsio Cabá wrote:

Hi Dan,

You need to take into account important things like:
1 -  Clients don't really care if you use open source or monolithic 
standars, they only need to know if it works well in a long term and 
also the price;
2 -  In my case I have hundreds of domains with about 05 email 
accounts per domain. So I need to minimize technical support and offer 
standarized and practical solutions.
3 -  Moving to MS Exchange is not a practical thing to do for many 
reasons, price is the first problem.
4 - Google Apps and office 365 are very attractive solutions for mail 
hosting and users seam to like it.


So basically as a service provider I need to offer complete solutions. 
Sogo, if it works with qmail, will enable qmail servers to offer many 
more funcionalities, since is sits in the middle between open source 
mail servers and MS Exchange. Please to go 
http://www.sogo.nu/about/overview.html


Regards

Hi Délsio,

SoGo does work with Qmail, with some caveats. I had created some initial 
notes, and Peter has taken it further, and could probably guide you 
better than me.


http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg31098.html

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[qmailtoaster] clamav 0.97.4

[Eric Shubert]

clamav 0.97.4 release was announced 3/15/2012.

clamav-toaster-0.97.4-1.4.0.src.rpm is available for testing. I've built 
and installed it on 32,64 bit test machines with no problem. You can 
find the rpm at http://qmailtoaster.com/testing/ (old location) or 
http://mirrors.qmailtoaster.com/repos/testing/ (new location, directory 
may change in the future). The mirrors should get it overnight.


Please report any use you make of it. Once several people are using it 
without problems, I'll make it generally available.


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[qmailtoaster] Re: Mail list bounce messages

[Eric Shubert]

What was the regex you used?
(You probably listed it once, but please again)

On 03/19/2012 01:00 PM, Délsio Cabá wrote:

Hi Eric,

Regarding taps, I tried to tal mailer-daemon and it didn't work :(

Any clues?

On 19 March 2012 20:58, Eric Shubert mailto:e...@shubes.net>> wrote:

On 03/19/2012 11:06 AM, dnk wrote:

Is there a way to get messages that bounce to a particular list
to go to
a specific address?

Thanks.

D


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mail list bounce messages

[Délsio Cabá]

Hi Eric,

Regarding taps, I tried to tal mailer-daemon and it didn't work :(

Any clues?

On 19 March 2012 20:58, Eric Shubert  wrote:

> On 03/19/2012 11:06 AM, dnk wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to get messages that bounce to a particular list to go to
>> a specific address?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> D
>>
>
> Taps?
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[qmailtoaster] Re: Mail list bounce messages

[Eric Shubert]

On 03/19/2012 11:06 AM, dnk wrote:

Is there a way to get messages that bounce to a particular list to go to
a specific address?

Thanks.

D


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[qmailtoaster] Re: Make mail messages readable by all

[Eric Shubert]

Dovecot has the capability to define and use shared folders, complete 
with ACLs. That is where I'd look for a solution. Be sure to use a 
fairly recent (2.0.x) release. IIRC shared folders were introduced in 
v1.2, but ACLs came along in v2.0.


On 03/19/2012 10:55 AM, Richard Chen wrote:

Those are archived (local) files on the servers and therefore
are not available via imap because these servers are web servers
and not email servers. In other words, they are created by
qmail client with email addrs like-all@localmachine.
We just want these email files to be accessible as regular files
via nfs mount.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 01:37:01PM -0400, Dan McAllister wrote:

Shortcutting all of the permissions issues, if you have an e-mail
account that is to be shared, why not just use one mailbox that
multiple people can access with IMAP?

There is no "limit" to the number of users who can be logged into a
single IMAP account -- I do this all the time for "bosses" and their
"secretaries". It can even be setup so that the "secretary" either
can, or cannot, send messages FROM the "boss".

The only thing "special" about this setup is that the "secretary's"
system has to know the password to the "boss's" email account. But
so long as an Admin sets it up so that the "secretary" doesn't
actually know the password, it's reasonably secure...

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Make mail messages readable by all

[Richard Chen]

Those are archived (local) files on the servers and therefore
are not available via imap because these servers are web servers
and not email servers. In other words, they are created by
qmail client with email addrs like -all@localmachine.
We just want these email files to be accessible as regular files 
via nfs mount.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 01:37:01PM -0400, Dan McAllister wrote:
> Shortcutting all of the permissions issues, if you have an e-mail
> account that is to be shared, why not just use one mailbox that
> multiple people can access with IMAP?
> 
> There is no "limit" to the number of users who can be logged into a
> single IMAP account -- I do this all the time for "bosses" and their
> "secretaries". It can even be setup so that the "secretary" either
> can, or cannot, send messages FROM the "boss".
> 
> The only thing "special" about this setup is that the "secretary's"
> system has to know the password to the "boss's" email account. But
> so long as an Admin sets it up so that the "secretary" doesn't
> actually know the password, it's reasonably secure...
> 
> Dan
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[qmailtoaster] Open Standards

[Délsio Cabá]

Hi Dan,

You need to take into account important things like:
1 -  Clients don't really care if you use open source or monolithic
standars, they only need to know if it works well in a long term and also
the price;
2 -  In my case I have hundreds of domains with about 05 email accounts per
domain. So I need to minimize technical support and offer standarized and
practical solutions.
3 -  Moving to MS Exchange is not a practical thing to do for many reasons,
price is the first problem.
4 - Google Apps and office 365 are very attractive solutions for mail
hosting and users seam to like it.

So basically as a service provider I need to offer complete solutions.
Sogo, if it works with qmail, will enable qmail servers to offer many more
funcionalities, since is sits in the middle between open source mail
servers and MS Exchange. Please to go http://www.sogo.nu/about/overview.html

Regards

On 19 March 2012 19:21, Dan McAllister  wrote:

> On 3/19/2012 1:10 PM, Délsio Cabá wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I only do backup once a week :( and the backups are local to another NAS
>> As for the IMAP I must agreed that it's safer since they benefit from the
>> backups of the server.
>> But there is a downside: As time goes on the user will have a larger
>> Inbox/Outbox folder and that means loading those folders every time the
>> user logins. You need to have a fast WAN connection to keep many clients
>> using IMAP :(
>> IMAP is good when client and server are very close, like the squirrelmail
>> and the courier you have on your qmailtoaster, that works perfectly. ut
>> when you separate IMAP client from the server, things are not so good.
>>
>>
>> That's why I am investigating the MAPI protocol as an alternative to
>> deploy for my clients and also to fight the growing need to Office 365
>> which comes with MS Exchange online.
>> Sogo is an alternative to MS Exchange and it's believed to work with
>> qmailtoaster. But I never had time to test it.
>>
>> Why don't you try it?
>>
>
> You raise valid concerns regarding mailbox size... however, by teaching
> your clients to create and use both online and offline folders, you
> considerably mitigate those issues... for example, I have several Insurance
> Agencies as clients -- they routinely get about 4GB of emails per year on
> their main site... but by separating them as they come in into existing,
> new, & old clients; and then in to auto, health, life, and other folders,
> the sizes become VERY manageable. Then, once every 6-months, we archive
> everything more than 18months old into offline storage. Thus, they can
> search (nearly instantly) the last 18 months of emails, and can search
> (locally, and more slowly) older messages very easily.
>
> Most of these clients use Thunderbird and IMAP... there are known issues
> with Outlook (esp. 2003 and older) and IMAP... if you ask me, issues
> PLANTED by MS to encourage using Exchange vs. IMAP...
>
> As for using MAPI, my only concern there is that I prefer to stay away
> from "monolithic" standards (that is, standards that are controlled by a
> for-profit company)... and Microsoft has a well-earned reputation (think
> Active Directory) for making unilateral and unannounced changes to their
> "standards" specifically to break "compatible" 3rd party applications. (In
> Microsoft's defense, they do have a more recent history of working WITH the
> Open Source community... but its going to take more of a track record for
> me to trust MS "standards"... and I'm not there yet.
>
> Of course, one of the best things about Open Source is that we all get to
> do our own thing for our own reasons!
>
> Dan
>
>
>
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Make mail messages readable by all

[Dan McAllister]

Shortcutting all of the permissions issues, if you have an e-mail 
account that is to be shared, why not just use one mailbox that multiple 
people can access with IMAP?


There is no "limit" to the number of users who can be logged into a 
single IMAP account -- I do this all the time for "bosses" and their 
"secretaries". It can even be setup so that the "secretary" either can, 
or cannot, send messages FROM the "boss".


The only thing "special" about this setup is that the "secretary's" 
system has to know the password to the "boss's" email account. But so 
long as an Admin sets it up so that the "secretary" doesn't actually 
know the password, it's reasonably secure...


Dan

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Make mail messages readable by all

[Richard Chen]

We archive error emails from web sites which are then
nfs mounted to the eng server so that they can help
troubleshooting issues. The archived emails are collected
by sitenames which act as group accounts. But this 
means mails for each site will be readable by that
account alone which is not what we want. We want such
error emails to be readable by all, on the nfs client machine.

Thanks

Richard

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 07:11:57PM +0200, Délsio Cabá wrote:
> I don't get it. Why do you want to change permission?
> What do you mean by group accounts?
> 
> On 19 March 2012 19:01, Richard Chen  wrote:
> 
> > The email messages all have the very tight permission 600.
> > We have many group accounts whose messages need to be
> > readable by all. Is there a way to set permission to 644
> > somewhere in qmailtoaster? Since the /home/ is
> > already protected with 700, I am not concerned about
> > privacy or security issues. If will be great if this
> > can be controlled at the account level.
> >
> > Currently I just run a cron job to change the perms
> > but it is not a scalable solution.
> >
> > Thanks for any info.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
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Re: [qmailtoaster] re: IMAP problem

[Dan McAllister]

On 3/19/2012 1:10 PM, Délsio Cabá wrote:

Hi,

I only do backup once a week :( and the backups are local to another NAS
As for the IMAP I must agreed that it's safer since they benefit from 
the backups of the server.
But there is a downside: As time goes on the user will have a larger 
Inbox/Outbox folder and that means loading those folders every time 
the user logins. You need to have a fast WAN connection to keep many 
clients using IMAP :(
IMAP is good when client and server are very close, like the 
squirrelmail and the courier you have on your qmailtoaster, that works 
perfectly. ut when you separate IMAP client from the server, things 
are not so good.



That's why I am investigating the MAPI protocol as an alternative to 
deploy for my clients and also to fight the growing need to Office 365 
which comes with MS Exchange online.
Sogo is an alternative to MS Exchange and it's believed to work with 
qmailtoaster. But I never had time to test it.


Why don't you try it?


You raise valid concerns regarding mailbox size... however, by teaching 
your clients to create and use both online and offline folders, you 
considerably mitigate those issues... for example, I have several 
Insurance Agencies as clients -- they routinely get about 4GB of emails 
per year on their main site... but by separating them as they come in 
into existing, new, & old clients; and then in to auto, health, life, 
and other folders, the sizes become VERY manageable. Then, once every 
6-months, we archive everything more than 18months old into offline 
storage. Thus, they can search (nearly instantly) the last 18 months of 
emails, and can search (locally, and more slowly) older messages very 
easily.


Most of these clients use Thunderbird and IMAP... there are known issues 
with Outlook (esp. 2003 and older) and IMAP... if you ask me, issues 
PLANTED by MS to encourage using Exchange vs. IMAP...


As for using MAPI, my only concern there is that I prefer to stay away 
from "monolithic" standards (that is, standards that are controlled by a 
for-profit company)... and Microsoft has a well-earned reputation (think 
Active Directory) for making unilateral and unannounced changes to their 
"standards" specifically to break "compatible" 3rd party applications. 
(In Microsoft's defense, they do have a more recent history of working 
WITH the Open Source community... but its going to take more of a track 
record for me to trust MS "standards"... and I'm not there yet.


Of course, one of the best things about Open Source is that we all get 
to do our own thing for our own reasons!


Dan


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Make mail messages readable by all

[Délsio Cabá]

I don't get it. Why do you want to change permission?
What do you mean by group accounts?

On 19 March 2012 19:01, Richard Chen  wrote:

> The email messages all have the very tight permission 600.
> We have many group accounts whose messages need to be
> readable by all. Is there a way to set permission to 644
> somewhere in qmailtoaster? Since the /home/ is
> already protected with 700, I am not concerned about
> privacy or security issues. If will be great if this
> can be controlled at the account level.
>
> Currently I just run a cron job to change the perms
> but it is not a scalable solution.
>
> Thanks for any info.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
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Re: [qmailtoaster] re: IMAP problem

[Délsio Cabá]

Hi,

I only do backup once a week :( and the backups are local to another NAS
As for the IMAP I must agreed that it's safer since they benefit from the
backups of the server.
But there is a downside: As time goes on the user will have a larger
Inbox/Outbox folder and that means loading those folders every time the
user logins. You need to have a fast WAN connection to keep many clients
using IMAP :(
IMAP is good when client and server are very close, like the squirrelmail
and the courier you have on your qmailtoaster, that works perfectly. ut
when you separate IMAP client from the server, things are not so good.


That's why I am investigating the MAPI protocol as an alternative to deploy
for my clients and also to fight the growing need to Office 365 which comes
with MS Exchange online.
Sogo is an alternative to MS Exchange and it's believed to work with
qmailtoaster. But I never had time to test it.

Why don't you try it?



On 19 March 2012 16:54, Dan McAllister  wrote:

> On 3/19/2012 1:16 AM, Délsio Cabá wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Web based is good for clients that are always on the move and need to use
>> mobile phones (IMAP), this way the emails will be kept on the server.
>> But whenever possible try to offer your clients pop3 so that your server
>> doesn't get out of space.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
> Délsio,
>
> I would caveat that recommendation with this:
>  - When my client is a "home user" and the only service I'm providing is
> DNS and EMail, then yes, I can see recommending POP so as to get their data
> off of my server... BUT
>  - When my client is a business (even -- or actually especially when -- a
> home business), I virtually FORCE them to use IMAP so that the data is on a
> server, and not just their own hard drive. As I tell my clients: "When you
> use IMAP, you don't have to include your emails in your daily backup of
> your system... you do backup your system daily, right?"
>
> Of course, that's a great lead in to my offsite backup solutions... :-)
>
> Seriously though, when my clients are hiring me for consulting work, I
> ALWAYS recommend IMAP for the safety of their data!
>
> Just my thoughts... remember what you paid for them before complaining! :-)
>
> Dan McAllister
>
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[qmailtoaster] Make mail messages readable by all

[Richard Chen]

The email messages all have the very tight permission 600.
We have many group accounts whose messages need to be
readable by all. Is there a way to set permission to 644
somewhere in qmailtoaster? Since the /home/ is
already protected with 700, I am not concerned about
privacy or security issues. If will be great if this
can be controlled at the account level.

Currently I just run a cron job to change the perms
but it is not a scalable solution.

Thanks for any info.

Richard


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: attachments

[Dave MacDonald]

On 3/7/2012 2:07 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 03/07/2012 01:53 PM, Sys wrote:

Files are Identical, even down to the corredct byte size 8280.

So , how do i force a reinstall SM

Thanks


# rpm -Uvh --force squirrelmail-toaster-*.rpm

If you used qtp-newmodel to update, the rpm will be in
/usr/src/qtp-upgrade/old-rpms/.



FYI,
reinstalling squirrelmail did not make a difference.
Did a qtp-backup
scp`d file to new build box,
qtp-restore,

All is good.
I guess maybe something got corrupt?

Thanks for all the help and hints evryone.



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Re: [qmailtoaster] re: IMAP problem

[Dan McAllister]

On 3/19/2012 1:16 AM, Délsio Cabá wrote:

Hi,

Web based is good for clients that are always on the move and need to 
use mobile phones (IMAP), this way the emails will be kept on the server.
But whenever possible try to offer your clients pop3 so that your 
server doesn't get out of space.


Cheers

Délsio,

I would caveat that recommendation with this:
 - When my client is a "home user" and the only service I'm providing 
is DNS and EMail, then yes, I can see recommending POP so as to get 
their data off of my server... BUT
 - When my client is a business (even -- or actually especially when -- 
a home business), I virtually FORCE them to use IMAP so that the data is 
on a server, and not just their own hard drive. As I tell my clients: 
"When you use IMAP, you don't have to include your emails in your daily 
backup of your system... you do backup your system daily, right?"


Of course, that's a great lead in to my offsite backup solutions... :-)

Seriously though, when my clients are hiring me for consulting work, I 
ALWAYS recommend IMAP for the safety of their data!


Just my thoughts... remember what you paid for them before complaining! :-)

Dan McAllister

--

IT4SOHO, LLC
PO Box 507
St. Petersburg, FL 33731-0507

CALL TOLL FREE:
  877-IT4SOHO

We have support plans for QMail!



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