Re: [RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!
We looked long and hard for a reasonable 16-inch wheeled bike when my daughter out grew her 12-inch Specialized Hotrock. We finally found a Schwinn Gremlin on Craigslist for $40 and snatched it up. Funny you mention wheel size, David. M 5-year old daughter tried to go up a driveway from the street at too shallow an angle and her front wheel was deflected by the bump. She went down pretty hard. I was tough 'cause there wasn't much I could do other than comfort her and explain how to avoid it happening again. She really wants a bigger bike but she can barely stand over her 16-inch wheeled Schwinn Gremlin. Here are a few pics of the kids on their rides... https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/113148323994353762329/albums/5673253657816624801 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/L8CVZzHp2GYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!
Start on the 20 search, it'll take awhile, too! The wheel size really made a big difference. Most noticeable in rolling off curbs (probably also why kid bikes are so over-built!). She used to stop and straddle-step walk them over, now rides right off them. I noticed the big difference for her going from 16 to 20 was the extra mass of the front end. My daughter did not like having to move it around at low/no speed and that kinda' mentally freaked her out. Once she got over that... watch out! On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Smitty-A-Go-Go 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: We looked long and hard for a reasonable 16-inch wheeled bike when my daughter out grew her 12-inch Specialized Hotrock. We finally found a Schwinn Gremlin on Craigslist for $40 and snatched it up. Funny you mention wheel size, David. M 5-year old daughter tried to go up a driveway from the street at too shallow an angle and her front wheel was deflected by the bump. She went down pretty hard. I was tough 'cause there wasn't much I could do other than comfort her and explain how to avoid it happening again. She really wants a bigger bike but she can barely stand over her 16-inch wheeled Schwinn Gremlin. Here are a few pics of the kids on their rides... https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/113148323994353762329/albums/5673253657816624801 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/L8CVZzHp2GYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!
That is cool, J.! With the busy days of a 5 and a 3, we are still sorta getting back up-to-speed with the family biking... lately, it's been Trail-A-Bike commuting, or- more fun- the Jeff Lyons trailer cycle: http://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/6099977077/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/6179111759/ ... so, I will most certainly entertain what Riv is working on now! But, a pet project waiting in the wings is this little Urago frame which I rescued from the bottom of a pile at a bike coop in PGH, PA.: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=URAGO+BAMBINO I just need to find a good/cheap set of 28h hubs to go with some nice 24 rims... =- Joe Bunik ought take my daughter down to RBWHQ to see if she can get in on the test-pilot-program Walnut Creek, CA On 11/10/11, Jennings jkguinn...@yahoo.com wrote: Here is the one I built up for my son a few years ago. I found the frame on Ebay. Of course it is lugged. I put 20x1/1/8 wheels and tires on it. The rear wheel is built up with a Shimano Sante' 7 speed hub and there is a Shimano 600 rear derailler. It required standard reach brakes. I think the handlebars are 38cm wide. I had to put interrupter levers on it so he could reach. 7-speed bar end shifters. The bike was completely Rivendell inspired. At age 8 I paced him doing 18 mph. http://www.flickr.com/photos/22765148@N02/sets/72157627975934435/ On Nov 10, 1:31 pm, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: I hope Riv moves this from the back burner to the middle burner if not the front burner. I am ready to pre-pay for one now. David G Madison WI On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:19 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/12528275911/mini-bike-for-7-to-9-a-bac... This is just s fantastic. I totally obsess on kid bikes and have sequential bikes from 12 to 24 for pretty much the whole neighborhood. Coming up on 26 (and looking hard for a 90's 13 Hoo Koo E Koo or Trek 950 if someone has one stashed somewhere...) now, then on to 650b and 700c/29er territory! I looked long and hard to find a GREAT 20 KHS Montana. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4302651574/ I moved my kids on to hand brakes and gears as soon as I could (this bike is ridden by my 5 y.o.). But oh how I would have loved to have a semi-lugged Rivendell for them! Hey Grant, consider a 24 version as well, that's the perfect kid size (here's my take on the best option out there: http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2010/05/found-perfect-kid-bike.html). You can get kids all different sizes on that, and the 24 tires roll so much better than 20 tires do. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA **- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!
That is one cool bike! On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Jennings jkguinn...@yahoo.com wrote: Here is the one I built up for my son a few years ago. I found the frame on Ebay. Of course it is lugged. I put 20x1/1/8 wheels and tires on it. The rear wheel is built up with a Shimano Sante' 7 speed hub and there is a Shimano 600 rear derailler. It required standard reach brakes. I think the handlebars are 38cm wide. I had to put interrupter levers on it so he could reach. 7-speed bar end shifters. The bike was completely Rivendell inspired. At age 8 I paced him doing 18 mph. http://www.flickr.com/photos/22765148@N02/sets/72157627975934435/ On Nov 10, 1:31 pm, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: I hope Riv moves this from the back burner to the middle burner if not the front burner. I am ready to pre-pay for one now. David G Madison WI On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:19 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/12528275911/mini-bike-for-7-to-9-a-bac. .. This is just s fantastic. I totally obsess on kid bikes and have sequential bikes from 12 to 24 for pretty much the whole neighborhood. Coming up on 26 (and looking hard for a 90's 13 Hoo Koo E Koo or Trek 950 if someone has one stashed somewhere...) now, then on to 650b and 700c/29er territory! I looked long and hard to find a GREAT 20 KHS Montana. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4302651574/ I moved my kids on to hand brakes and gears as soon as I could (this bike is ridden by my 5 y.o.). But oh how I would have loved to have a semi-lugged Rivendell for them! Hey Grant, consider a 24 version as well, that's the perfect kid size (here's my take on the best option out there: http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2010/05/found-perfect-kid-bike.html). You can get kids all different sizes on that, and the 24 tires roll so much better than 20 tires do. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA **- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!
$250 is a steal. (Steel?) Too bad Catie is now almost 5' tall (at 10 years, five months and one day) and riding a much more expensive 24 wheel Electra Townie 3i (pink!) (heck, her 20 wheel Little Betty cost me $250 five years ago). I dream of her going to middle and high school at nearby Bosque School and we two riding bikes to and from. (She put her foot down about a tandem -- ie, using that plaintive, indignant whine: DA-aaa-AD!) On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Smitty-A-Go-Go 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: My wife has a sparkly green Betty Foy. My 5-year-old daughter often laments that she too would like a sparkly green pretty bike with hand brakes. This could be that bike. The capacity to attach a real rack/basket would be great. She (daughter) has a little flowery plastic basket zip tied to the h-bars, but it's not nearly big enough to carry the ensemble of dolls and doll accessories that she consistently wants to bring to the park. $250 for a whole bike sounds like a deal... even if racks, fenders, and front brake are aftermarket add-ons. One more on the Kiddie Riv waiting list! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ZjI8k7p8Ay4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!
Agreed on the $250 is a steal. The free Trek that I put tubes, tires, fenders, and a bell on cost me close to $100. And that was with the tires on close-out for about $20 each. You can imagine why I ended up hesitating over the mustache bars. Also, a Wald basket up front would be very a nice and very useful touch. The thing is, most people don't want to spend money on a decent kid's bike. It's understandable as most kids don't ride them very much. But in the TCO (total cost of ownership), a good bike that can last through 2-3 of one's own children before being sold used for 50-70% of original purchase price is pretty cheap on an amortized basis. Not many people look at their budget that way, though. -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RyYu1NaWlO8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!
Finding a nice kid bike has been an obsession of mine. They're out there, but a bit hard to find. My kids use them mostly for riding around the block, but put some decent miles on them going to grandma's, the library, parks, etc. Gears came into play quite early. They don't quite get them, but follow directions well when I holler: Two left, four right. I mentioned originally how much I like the 24 tire size. I think it's under-utilized! It rolls over curbs and bumps so much better than a 20 tire, but doesn't require a tall fork/handlebar height like 26 bikes do. Even fairly small kids can ride them, limited more by saddle height and standover than anything. Right now, Redline makes the Conquest http://www.redlinebicycles.com/bikes/commute/2012-conquest-24in the 24 size (actually an off-size 24, but that's another story). If you're looking for a good all-round bike for your kid, check them out. Drop bars, fat tires! I found a good one on CL, and am not giving it up for a while! Oh, and all this talk about kid bikes has forced me to go and buy a new onehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/6331069394/in/photostream! My son is at the point where he will actually benefit from a front sus fork, not to mention carrying around the extra weight from his previous bike. It weighed 30lbs, which is about 45% of his weight. That would be like my riding a 85lbs bike on the trails! On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: The cost-per-use being lower for more expensive kid's bikes is certainly true in my case. I spent $120 on Max's first bike, a 16 Gary Fisher Jet Stream or something. He rode it a LOT for a couple years. It actually had moto-style fenders... His BMX race bike cost $300+, weighs 15 lbs, and has lasted for years of transportational riding. I could've gotten a used one for $150, but I'd just tried to set him up with a thrift store BMX bike that cost $10, plus $40 for a new rear wheel and he hated it. Cheap bike = money thrown from a moving car; expensive bike = years of use, and I could probably sell it tomorrow for $150. Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On Nov 9, 4:06 pm, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote: Agreed on the $250 is a steal. The free Trek that I put tubes, tires, fenders, and a bell on cost me close to $100. And that was with the tires on close-out for about $20 each. You can imagine why I ended up hesitating over the mustache bars. Also, a Wald basket up front would be very a nice and very useful touch. The thing is, most people don't want to spend money on a decent kid's bike. It's understandable as most kids don't ride them very much. But in the TCO (total cost of ownership), a good bike that can last through 2-3 of one's own children before being sold used for 50-70% of original purchase price is pretty cheap on an amortized basis. Not many people look at their budget that way, though. -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!
Wow. that bike is brilliant! Sean --- On Tue, 11/8/11, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: From: Marty mgie...@mac.com Subject: [RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy! To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 8, 2011, 10:28 PM or this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379107@N03/4349945352/in/pool-1240367@N24 double eyelets up front for that kross kountyr kiddy ride! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6AI0I4b43BwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.