Re: [Repeater-Builder] RB Antennas??
I would have, but they are backordered. Oh well, Next year. Scott -Original Message- From: DCFluX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 19, 2005 10:54 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RB Antennas?? Got anything single band 2 Meter? On 5/19/05, Scott Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jon, > > That's correct. They are 2 and 3 pieces that screw together with a bell type > furrel. Unlike most ham grade antennas though, the bell is oriented properly > to keep the water out. > > Scott Yahoo! Groups Links PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton check list
Wow. Here in Reno, NV it is $2.49. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 1:10 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton check list For the record, $1.89 this morning, and $2.05 this afternoon. Imagine that! Joe M. (From DAYTON!) Buley, Kenneth L (GE Consumer & Industrial) wrote: > > $1.86 for regular less than a mile from my home (for the last two days) May have changed by the time I get home today, though. > > Kenneth Buley > Bullitt County EMA Deputy Director CD-2 > Bullitt/Spencer Counties Red Cross ECRV Driver/Operator BC-6 > Bullitt County ARES/RACES Coordinator KY4DES > > "Dante once said that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality." > > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of no6b1 > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:18 AM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton check list > > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dave VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > At 11:58 AM 5/18/2005, Ken Arck wrote: > > > > >At 12:56 PM 5/18/2005 -0400, you wrote: > > > >Anyone taking bets on how high the gas prices will mysteriously raise > > > >for the weekend? I'm betting $2.37. Not that it's gouging or > anything. > > > > > ><---Only $2.37? That's less than we're paying here in Oregon now! > > > > regular is hovering around $2 here. > > Highest on my trip so far was Shoshone, CA (near Death Valley). $3.12 > for regular. > > Bob NO6B > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Test please ignore
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ronny Julian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Test Ah, now we have a "group-kerchunker!" ;) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Want to buy Repeater Controller
> > Unless you seriously read the FCC rules ... then make your decision. > > Nothing like a vague and cryptic statement with dark allusions to add > to the meat of the discussion... > > What's this all about? Oh, you meant THAT comment. I suspect the implications were, "don't try and build a repeater unless you have seriously read the FCC rules." That's why I have YOU GUYS! Any of you out there mess with Simoco? (Oh, ya! It's him, the Simoco guy!) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Want to buy Repeater Controller
> Nothing like a vague and cryptic statement with dark allusions to add > to the meat of the discussion... > > What's this all about? Heh heh heh... (dark and cryptic laughter...) Basically implying all the controller vendors went to Dayton, and all I got was this lousy t- shirt! (Hey... Any controller vendors out there sell t-shirts?) NØTVQ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Want to buy Repeater Controller
At 06:40 AM 5/20/2005, Ed Gage wrote: > > > Unless you seriously read the FCC rules ... then make your >decision. > > > > Nothing like a vague and cryptic statement with dark allusions to >add > > to the meat of the discussion... > > > > What's this all about? > >Oh, you meant THAT comment. I suspect the implications were, "don't >try and build a repeater unless you have seriously read the FCC >rules." That's why I have YOU GUYS! Well, that's why we call it "Firmware", it can be changed to assure compliance with whatever the requirements are. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: RB Antennas??
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, DCFluX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Got anything single band 2 Meter? > > On 5/19/05, Scott Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jon, > > > > That's correct. They are 2 and 3 pieces that screw together with a bell type furrel. Unlike most ham grade antennas though, the bell is oriented properly to keep the water out. > > > > Scott maybe with Type N conn. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr II Exec parts needed
i am in need of the master ii exec mobile radio control head connector that goes to the sas board to the control head. and a detector board. thanks Matt KF4AEJ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton check list
So... the one-armed bandits now have competition ?? Thanx for the warning -- dropping off a rental there 6/07 Mini-gas-war broke out here last Tues... $1.96.. for about 3 hours. Feh. ~/ Scott ~ N8BQN /~ Richard wrote: Wow. Here in Reno, NV it is $2.49. Richard, N7TGB ---<< requotes exorcised - hope nobody's offended >>--- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton checklist #13 & Hamsexy
noted and wil be amended next year. glad they had a laff out of itthe additional comments were gratly appreciated. mdm ted wx in st louis was 80s on thursday and mid 60's and cloudy friday. graduation at wash u went well made it home to chicago by dinner time and wx here is 70's no rain. heard that it poured on thursday in dayton???good luck to all in attendance mdm tedskipp025 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ted, My Dara friends really liked the Dayton Checklist and one responded with an addition. Even more fun is their Email mention of the Hamsexy crowd at Booth 193.cheers,skipp [paste]#13 on the original list advocated knowing where allthe porta-potties are. I am adding the suggestion ofa radiation monitor, for use when you are pursuingobjective #13.Also note that Booth 193 contains "Hamsexy", a ratherinteresting bunch- see www.hamsexy.com. Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Ted Bleiman K9MDM MDM Radio Ltd - 1629-B N. 31 st Ave Melrose Park, IL 60160 708.681.0300 fax 708.681.9800 web http://www.mdmradio.com - Check it now!! Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton check list
Well, to prove that wonders never cease, the gas prices LOWERED back down today! Just goes to show you - anything CAN happen at Dayton! For the record, the day of rain they were calling for was dry. They were calling for sun tomorrow and Sunday. Hate to see what that means. Me - 1 : WXman - 0 BTW, calling for sunny and 72 tomorrow, and now isolated thunderstorms Sunday afternoon. They might just have tomorrow right. Again, anything can happen at Dayton. I bet it rains Sunday, and not just isolated. Joe M. Richard wrote: > > Wow. Here in Reno, NV it is $2.49. > > Richard, N7TGB > > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 1:10 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton check list > > For the record, $1.89 this morning, and $2.05 this afternoon. Imagine > that! > > Joe M. (From DAYTON!) > > Buley, Kenneth L (GE Consumer & Industrial) wrote: > > > > $1.86 for regular less than a mile from my home (for the last two > days) May have changed by the time I get home today, though. > > > > Kenneth Buley > > Bullitt County EMA Deputy Director CD-2 > > Bullitt/Spencer Counties Red Cross ECRV Driver/Operator BC-6 > > Bullitt County ARES/RACES Coordinator KY4DES > > > > "Dante once said that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those > who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality." > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of no6b1 > > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:18 AM > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton check list > > > > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dave VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > At 11:58 AM 5/18/2005, Ken Arck wrote: > > > > > > >At 12:56 PM 5/18/2005 -0400, you wrote: > > > > >Anyone taking bets on how high the gas prices will mysteriously raise > > > > >for the weekend? I'm betting $2.37. Not that it's gouging or > > anything. > > > > > > > ><---Only $2.37? That's less than we're paying here in Oregon now! > > > > > > regular is hovering around $2 here. > > > > Highest on my trip so far was Shoshone, CA (near Death Valley). $3.12 > > for regular. > > > > Bob NO6B > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Poor Repeater RX
Hello, Well here is one that cant be figured out locally, thought I would throw it to the experts. My high school radio club has recently made a few upgrades to our VHF repeater. We replaced the Ringo Ranger antenna with a Comet GP-9 Antenna, replaced the 9913 coax with Andrews 1/2'' Heliax, and put a Mirage Pream inline. The problem we are having is mainly with the preamp (I think) I will describe the setup and give all the specs first. The repeater Rx and Tx is from a 110 Watt Motorola Mitrek power out from the Mitrek is 50 watts. The power supply is an Astron RS-70M, Duplexer is a Sinclair Q202G (yes, it is properly tuned and working as it should) the antenna is rooftop on the schools theater building (the roof is about 75 feet AGL and the antenna is on an 8' mast pipe) there are no obstructions for at least 5 miles around. The preamp setup is as follows, it is after the duplexers and before the reciever. We have the preamp directly connected into the duplexer and a jumper going from the preamp to the Rx bulkhead on the repeater cabinet. The preamp has two settings, a higher gain and a lower gain setting, initially we had it setup to the higher gain setting but I went up today and switched over to lower gain and turned the power output to 30 watts. The problem we have is the Rx is not what is should be. It is a tad worse then when we were running the repeater at 15 watts without the Preamp. I would really like to get the preamp to work like it should in the repeater system, I just dont have any ideas on what to do next to get better sensitivity on the machine. Any thoughts and ideas would be appreciated. Thanks. Alexander KG4OGN P.s, all jumpers are made with double shielded ridgid coax, so thats not the cause of the problem. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RB Antennas??
Sorry, They would have a SO-239. Scott -Original Message- From: l_digit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 20, 2005 12:14 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RB Antennas?? --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, DCFluX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Got anything single band 2 Meter? > > On 5/19/05, Scott Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jon, > > > > That's correct. They are 2 and 3 pieces that screw together with a bell type furrel. Unlike most ham grade antennas though, the bell is oriented properly to keep the water out. > > > > Scott maybe with Type N conn. Yahoo! Groups Links PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Poor Repeater RX
put the TX into a dummy load and see if the RX gets better. If it does not try the rx into the preamp and to the rx on the repeater still dummy load on TX and see if any of that helps. let me know. also what is the reflected power on the unit? thanks John - Original Message - From: "Alexander Tubonjic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 10:18 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Poor Repeater RX > Hello, > Well here is one that cant be figured out locally, thought I would > throw it to the experts. My high school radio club has recently made a > few upgrades to our VHF repeater. We replaced the Ringo Ranger antenna > with a Comet GP-9 Antenna, replaced the 9913 coax with Andrews 1/2'' > Heliax, and put a Mirage Pream inline. The problem we are having is > mainly with the preamp (I think) > I will describe the setup and give all the specs first. The repeater > Rx and Tx is from a 110 Watt Motorola Mitrek power out from the Mitrek > is 50 watts. The power supply is an Astron RS-70M, Duplexer is a > Sinclair Q202G (yes, it is properly tuned and working as it should) > the antenna is rooftop on the schools theater building (the roof is > about 75 feet AGL and the antenna is on an 8' mast pipe) there are no > obstructions for at least 5 miles around. The preamp setup is as > follows, it is after the duplexers and before the reciever. We have > the preamp directly connected into the duplexer and a jumper going > from the preamp to the Rx bulkhead on the repeater cabinet. The preamp > has two settings, a higher gain and a lower gain setting, initially we > had it setup to the higher gain setting but I went up today and > switched over to lower gain and turned the power output to 30 watts. > The problem we have is the Rx is not what is should be. It is a tad > worse then when we were running the repeater at 15 watts without the > Preamp. I would really like to get the preamp to work like it should > in the repeater system, I just dont have any ideas on what to do next > to get better sensitivity on the machine. Any thoughts and ideas would > be appreciated. Thanks. >Alexander KG4OGN > > P.s, all jumpers are made with double shielded ridgid coax, so thats > not the cause of the problem. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Poor Repeater RX
Is the preamp in a shielded box? Is the power to the preamp via a feedthrough capacitor? How does the repeater perform without the preamp? What does the transmitter look like on a spectrum analyzer? How does the repeater work with a simple 1/4 wavelength vertical? Is all of the cable going into the duplexer, from both the transmitter and the receiver, double shielded (RG-214/U or better)? The MITREK shares a common board between transmitter and receiver making duplexing difficult without desense. HOw does the repeater perform using a second MITREK as the receiver? Some ideas as to where to look. Hope you find the problem. 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 10:18 PM 05/20/05, you wrote: > Hello, > Well here is one that cant be figured out locally, thought I would >throw it to the experts. My high school radio club has recently made a >few upgrades to our VHF repeater. We replaced the Ringo Ranger antenna >with a Comet GP-9 Antenna, replaced the 9913 coax with Andrews 1/2'' >Heliax, and put a Mirage Pream inline. The problem we are having is >mainly with the preamp (I think) > I will describe the setup and give all the specs first. The repeater >Rx and Tx is from a 110 Watt Motorola Mitrek power out from the Mitrek >is 50 watts. The power supply is an Astron RS-70M, Duplexer is a >Sinclair Q202G (yes, it is properly tuned and working as it should) >the antenna is rooftop on the schools theater building (the roof is >about 75 feet AGL and the antenna is on an 8' mast pipe) there are no >obstructions for at least 5 miles around. The preamp setup is as >follows, it is after the duplexers and before the reciever. We have >the preamp directly connected into the duplexer and a jumper going >from the preamp to the Rx bulkhead on the repeater cabinet. The preamp >has two settings, a higher gain and a lower gain setting, initially we >had it setup to the higher gain setting but I went up today and >switched over to lower gain and turned the power output to 30 watts. > The problem we have is the Rx is not what is should be. It is a tad >worse then when we were running the repeater at 15 watts without the >Preamp. I would really like to get the preamp to work like it should >in the repeater system, I just dont have any ideas on what to do next >to get better sensitivity on the machine. Any thoughts and ideas would >be appreciated. Thanks. > Alexander KG4OGN > > P.s, all jumpers are made with double shielded ridgid coax, so thats >not the cause of the problem. > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Poor Repeater RX
Easy Fix, Get better duplexers, TX/RX are a good start. Takes mansize cans to support a preamp. TX/RX duplexers will provide the channel separation you will need for a preamp, but you still need a selective receiver to go with it. I believe the Mitrek has the selectivity you need. Also while I'm on it, your common ham preamp will probably not give you the performance you are looking for. Not only will it amplify the signal, but also amplifies the noise floor. In my years of search for the perfect preamp, I discovered the only good one says Motorola on it. You don't need 30 db, just 6 or so to greatly increase performance. Also change the antenna, the little connection in the GP-9 antenna that holds the different sections together is a prime candidate for static desense. The connector will suffer from corrosion within weeks after you put it up. It's not noticeable to the naked eye, but it is there. Buy yourself a good commercial grade antenna, DB products for instance. Look at it this way, you'll change that GP-9 antenna at a minimum of yearly. After about 4 years you'll have had a new DB products antenna paid for. In closing, sounds like you are concerned how your repeater receives, you are to be commended, many hams just want their repeater to broadcast as far as it can and who cares how it receives. All the above suggestions I have made to you, are all mistakes I have made, and learned from. Don KI0EO > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] UHF ham band offset dipole array availability
I'm looking for a UHF ham band antenna with an offset pattern like the DB-411. Is it possible to get a ham band DB-411 or are there any comparable antennas available that wont break the bank? I don't need anything particularly heavy duty as it will be used in a mild climate low wind situation. I've heard of people using a 450 DB-411 in the ham band, how significantly will that impair performance? Thanks Steve, kf6fkk Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
