[rrd-users] Re: Help with Bash script to calc end-time in multiples of 300 ?

[Rob Conway]

OK, I systematically  went through and tested the parameters...did at least 
three observations to get run time.  All parameters as below was taking 
33-34 seconds to generate 6 graphs.

1. Changing both my start & end times to be multiple of 300 and duration of 
127800 "did nothing measurable".
2. removing "--slope" -"did nothing measurable"
3. removed --interlaced   -saved 3-4 seconds

script is 10% quicker without interlace and I cannot tell any difference 
when viewing.  I know changing the width will help however my width was 
calculated for aesthetics so I can fit two graphs side by side and two 
graphs high on my web page.  i.e. see 4 graphs on one page.



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From: "Alex van den Bogaerdt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [rrd-users] Re: Help with Bash script to calc end-time in multiples 
of 300 ?


> On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 10:07:47AM +1100, Rob Conway wrote:
>
>> ## Aquarium PH GRAPH ##
>> rrdtool graph /website/ph1d.png --start e-1d --end $etime \
>> --upper-limit 8.0 --lower-limit 6.2 --units-length 2  \
>> --rigid --slope-mode  --width 426 --height 200 \
>> --title "pH" --vertical-label "PH" --interlaced \
>
> Change one item at a time, and try a couple of times. This makes
> sure you know the effect for each separate change, and you know
> the time needed wasn't affected by other processes that also may
> consume CPU cycles (at least: not a temporary running program).
>
> Can't comment on "slope-mode". In general: try removing options
> you don't really need. If it makes a difference, you can decide
> what is more important; if it doesn't make a difference, it is
> easy to put the option back in.
>
> (when you've tried, please do report the outcome here for future
> reference)
>
> Duration 1d and width 426.  You may want to see if this could be
> improved.  It now is 202.8169014 seconds per pixel.
>
> Assuming step==300 seconds and an RRA where steps==1step:
> Try duration 127800seconds (300*426) or width 288 pixels. Adjusting
> the width is probably better, as it will use less resources thus
> less time. I think this should help; also report back please.
>
> HTH
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[rrd-users] Re: Help with Bash script to calc end-time in multiples of 300 ?

[Simon Hobson]

Alex van den Bogaerdt wrote:

>  > etime=`date +%s`
>>  step=300
>>  etime=$(( ${etime} - ( ${etime} % ${step} ) ))
>
>etime=$(( ${etime} / ${step} * ${step}  ))
>
>is 10% faster, at least on my system. I tried this by looping 100,000
>times doing those calculations, several runs.  Bash uses integer
>calculations, and my sequence saves a calculation internally.

Fair enough.

>Printing the value can be done using perl, but unless you're going to
>use perl for other purposes as well you are better off with gnu-date.
>This runs in 44% of the time needed for starting perl:
>
>/bin/date -d 19700101\ 00:00\ +\ ${etime}sec
>
>It means: the unix epoch (19700101 00:00, timezone UTC) and then
>${etime} seconds further in time (so: reverse of date +%s)

Sneeky ! I'd never have thought of that.

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[rrd-users] Re: Help with Bash script to calc end-time in multiples of 300 ?

[Alex van den Bogaerdt]

On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 10:07:47AM +1100, Rob Conway wrote:

> ## Aquarium PH GRAPH ##
> rrdtool graph /website/ph1d.png --start e-1d --end $etime \
> --upper-limit 8.0 --lower-limit 6.2 --units-length 2  \
> --rigid --slope-mode  --width 426 --height 200 \
> --title "pH" --vertical-label "PH" --interlaced \

Change one item at a time, and try a couple of times. This makes
sure you know the effect for each separate change, and you know
the time needed wasn't affected by other processes that also may
consume CPU cycles (at least: not a temporary running program).

Can't comment on "slope-mode". In general: try removing options
you don't really need. If it makes a difference, you can decide
what is more important; if it doesn't make a difference, it is
easy to put the option back in.

(when you've tried, please do report the outcome here for future
reference)

Duration 1d and width 426.  You may want to see if this could be
improved.  It now is 202.8169014 seconds per pixel.

Assuming step==300 seconds and an RRA where steps==1step:
Try duration 127800seconds (300*426) or width 288 pixels. Adjusting
the width is probably better, as it will use less resources thus
less time. I think this should help; also report back please.

HTH
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[rrd-users] Re: Help with Bash script to calc end-time in multiples of 300 ?

[Rob Conway]

Thanks for the input guy's

I converted my end time however the generation of 6 graphs still takes 30 
seconds on my 266 mhz processor.  The script below only shows one rrdtool 
graph statement however the other 5 graphs statements are the same.  Is 
there anything else I can do to optimise the graph generation.


#!/bin/bash
etime=$(/bin/date +%s)
step=300
etime=$((${etime}/${step}*${step} ))

## Aquarium PH GRAPH ##
rrdtool graph /website/ph1d.png --start e-1d --end $etime \
--upper-limit 8.0 --lower-limit 6.2 --units-length 2  \
--rigid --slope-mode  --width 426 --height 200 \
--title "pH" --vertical-label "PH" --interlaced \
DEF:phv=/public/aquaph.rrd:ph:AVERAGE  LINE1:phv#FF:"Ph=" \
VDEF:phlast=phv,LAST GPRINT:phlast:"%3.2lf%S" \
VDEF:phavg=phv,AVERAGE GPRINT:phavg:"avg=%3.2lf%spH  " \
--watermark "Aquarium PH Graph"

Above is generated another 5 times 

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[rrd-users] Re: Help with Bash script to calc end-time in multiples of 300 ?

[Alex van den Bogaerdt]

On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:32:15AM +, Simon Hobson wrote:
> Rob Conway wrote:
> 
> >I just use "date +%s" to get the unix time but how can I easily 
> >round this value ?
> 
> etime=`date +%s`
> step=300
> etime=$(( ${etime} - ( ${etime} % ${step} ) ))

etime=$(( ${etime} / ${step} * ${step}  ))

is 10% faster, at least on my system. I tried this by looping 100,000
times doing those calculations, several runs.  Bash uses integer
calculations, and my sequence saves a calculation internally.


Printing the value can be done using perl, but unless you're going to
use perl for other purposes as well you are better off with gnu-date.
This runs in 44% of the time needed for starting perl:

/bin/date -d 19700101\ 00:00\ +\ ${etime}sec

It means: the unix epoch (19700101 00:00, timezone UTC) and then
${etime} seconds further in time (so: reverse of date +%s)

I use a hardcoded path, to avoid PATH search (more work, more cpu
cycles needed, more time!).

Time formatting works, so you can add '+%F %T' to the command and
get a nicer format:

/bin/date -d 19700101\ 00:00\ +\ ${etime}sec +%F\ %T

To get it into a variable, to be used in your graph script:

printedtime=$(/bin/date -d 19700101\ 00:00\ +\ ${etime}sec +%F\ %T)
printedtime=$(/bin/date -d "19700101 00:00 + ${etime}sec" +"%F %T")



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[rrd-users] Re: Help with Bash script to calc end-time in multiples of 300 ?

[Tobi Oetiker]

Hi Simon,

I would use


perl -e 'print "".localtime(time - time % 300)'



> Rob Conway wrote:
>
> >I just use "date +%s" to get the unix time but how can I easily
> >round this value ?
>
> etime=`date +%s`
> step=300
> etime=$(( ${etime} - ( ${etime} % ${step} ) ))
>
> Now, can someone show me how to convert the resulting end time to a
> human readable form - eg so I can use it in a gprint statement ?
>
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[rrd-users] Re: Help with Bash script to calc end-time in multiples of 300 ?

[Simon Hobson]

Rob Conway wrote:

>I just use "date +%s" to get the unix time but how can I easily 
>round this value ?

etime=`date +%s`
step=300
etime=$(( ${etime} - ( ${etime} % ${step} ) ))

Now, can someone show me how to convert the resulting end time to a 
human readable form - eg so I can use it in a gprint statement ?

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[rrd-users] Re: Help for GPRINT

[Alex van den Bogaerdt]

On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 08:52:00AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I use rrdtool with mrtg on a windows server, no problems for creating 
> rrdtool graphs, but i have a little problem with the GPRINT comand:

Nope, you have a problem with command.com or cmd.exe :)


> rrdtool graph test.png --imgformat=PNG --start=-86400 --end=-300 
> --title="Localhost - CPU Utilization - CPU0" --rigid --base=1000 --height=120 
> --width=500 --alt-autoscale-max --lower-limit=0 --vertical-label="percent" 
> --slope-mode DEF:a="cpu.rrd":ds1:AVERAGE AREA:a#FF:"CPU Utilization" 
> GPRINT:a:LAST:"Current\:%8.0lf" GPRINT:a:AVERAGE:"Average\:%8.0lf" 
> GPRINT:a:MAX:"Maximum\:%8.0lf" 

Try single quotes, and/or try double percent sign.  You may need to experiment
a bit:

GPRINT:a:LAST:'Current:%8.0lf'
GPRINT:a:LAST:'Current\:%8.0lf'
GPRINT:a:LAST:'Current\:\%8.0lf'
GPRINT:a:LAST:'Current\:%%8.0lf'

that sort of stuff.  The problem is not RRDtool.  RRDtool never gets to
see that '%'.  Your OS changes "%8" into the 8th parameter for your script.

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[rrd-users] Re: help needed here !!!!1

[Georges Toth]

> 2.I wanted to read the data from RRDTOOL into php web pages. Please suggest
> me some ways to go ahead. I am helpless now regaring creating web pages
> with the data from RRDs.
> Thanks in advance.

One method I've used is to execute the command for generating the graph in 
php.
And then opening the image (fopen) and printing it.

When you call the php script from within an html-img tag, the graph gets 
displayed as expected :-)


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[rrd-users] Re: help

[Andreas Maus]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 08:43:19AM +0100, ashwin dandwate wrote:
Hi.
> dear users
>  
> we are a bunch of struggling students , trying to learn RRD. can you help us 
> by sending some basic code for generating graphs.
Well ... Would you be more specific with the word "code" ?
Which programming language do you mean? C? C++? Perl? Python? Tcl? Shell? ... 
???

Did you look at  man rrdgraph ? There are examples for the shell.
Perl calls using RRDs::graph() are similar.

> the peoblem we faced during coding was.
> we were able to create a database and update values but not able to fetch the 
> values.
> i guess we are facing trouble with the time that goes from the 1970.can u 
> explain it as well.
Errr ... It is very difficulty to explain something if we don't know what 
trouble do
you mean. It would be much easier if you provide error messages and/or code 
snippets
that produces the errors.

HTH,

Andreas.

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[rrd-users] Re: Help on RRDTOO monitoring cpu loadavg needed!

[CHEW YEW CHOONG]

Firstly, thanks for help from others. I finally got it working by fixing the 
numbers input to rrdtool. 

Apparently, just need to remove the eol character from the source. This is how 
i do it,

  $line = qx/uptime/;
  # to chop the trailing newline
  chomp $line;



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[rrd-users] Re: Help on RRDTOO monitoring cpu loadavg needed!

[Alex van den Bogaerdt]

On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 06:31:10PM +0900, "CHEW　YEW　CHOONG" wrote:

> Thanks for the comment and suggestion. As im very to rrdtool and perl,
> it will take me sometimes to learn how to print those figure to file
> with timestamp and the computing part.

Perhaps you should learn one thing at a time?

> The result show on screes:
> 0.33  < this 3 lines from 
>  0.49 < print "$min1 $min5 $min15\n";
>  0.48 < strange on the line break and space.

There you have it.  Unexpected values in those variables; perhaps
RRDtool has a problem with it.

Concentrate on that problem first.  You want numbers and numbers ONLY.
Maybe "strip" or a similar perl command helps.

Don't even look at RRDtool until you have that input as it should be.
Write the input to a file and look at that file with a program that
allows you to view byte per byte.  On unix that would be "od", I don't
know a similar command on dos.  Most likely a perl program exists or
can be written with little effort.

Only when the input is _exactly_ like you need it to be, continue
with debugging rrdtool.  Chances are there's nothing left to debug.

> And when i do a rrdtool dump cpu.rrd, most of the lines display on screen are 
> as below:
> 
>  
>  NaN  NaN  NaN 
>  
>  NaN  NaN  NaN 
>  
>  NaN  NaN  NaN 
>  
>  NaN  NaN  NaN 

Find the most recent time stamps.  When you setup a new database,
all those lines will be NaN (by design).  When you enter data into
the database, those values are replaced including time stamps.

You only need to look at time 1125741000 and later.

Alex

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[rrd-users] Re: Help on RRDTOO monitoring cpu loadavg needed!

[CHEW YEW CHOONG]

Hi Alex,

Thanks for the comment and suggestion. As im very to rrdtool and perl, it will 
take me sometimes to learn how to print those figure to file with timestamp and 
the computing part.

Anyway, i have add a few lines into the script:
  my $total = $min1 + $min5 + $min15;
  print "$min1 $min5 $min15\n";
  print "$total\n";
  print "$min1";
  print "$min5";
  print "$min15";
  print "update database\n";
RRDs::update "$rrd/cpu.rrd",
  #"-t", "1min:5min:15min",
  "N:$min1:$min5:$min15";

The result show on screes:
0.33  < this 3 lines from 
 0.49 < print "$min1 $min5 $min15\n";
 0.48 < strange on the line break and space.

1.3   < from print "$total\n";
0.33  < from print "$min1";
0.49  < from print "$min5";
0.48  < from print "$min15";

Output from rrdtool info cpu.rrd:
filename = "cpu.rrd"
rrd_version = "0003"
step = 60
last_update = 1125738720
ds[1min].type = "GAUGE"
ds[1min].minimal_heartbeat = 600
ds[1min].min = 0.00e+00
ds[1min].max = NaN
ds[1min].last_ds = "UNKN"
ds[1min].value = 0.00e+00
ds[1min].unknown_sec = 0
ds[5min].type = "GAUGE"
ds[5min].minimal_heartbeat = 600
ds[5min].min = 0.00e+00
ds[5min].max = NaN
ds[5min].last_ds = "UNKN"
ds[5min].value = 0.00e+00
ds[5min].unknown_sec = 0
ds[15min].type = "GAUGE"
ds[15min].minimal_heartbeat = 600
ds[15min].min = 0.00e+00
ds[15min].max = NaN
ds[15min].last_ds = "UNKN"
ds[15min].value = 0.00e+00
ds[15min].unknown_sec = 0
rra[0].cf = "AVERAGE"
rra[0].rows = 576
rra[0].pdp_per_row = 1
rra[0].xff = 5.00e-01
rra[0].cdp_prep[0].value = NaN
rra[0].cdp_prep[0].unknown_datapoints = 0
rra[0].cdp_prep[1].value = NaN
rra[0].cdp_prep[1].unknown_datapoints = 0
rra[0].cdp_prep[2].value = NaN
rra[0].cdp_prep[2].unknown_datapoints = 0
rra[1].cf = "AVERAGE"
rra[1].rows = 672
rra[1].pdp_per_row = 10
rra[1].xff = 5.00e-01
rra[1].cdp_prep[0].value = NaN
rra[1].cdp_prep[0].unknown_datapoints = 2
rra[1].cdp_prep[1].value = NaN
rra[1].cdp_prep[1].unknown_datapoints = 2
rra[1].cdp_prep[2].value = NaN
rra[1].cdp_prep[2].unknown_datapoints = 2
rra[2].cf = "AVERAGE"
rra[2].rows = 732
rra[2].pdp_per_row = 60
rra[2].xff = 5.00e-01
rra[2].cdp_prep[0].value = 0.00e+00
rra[2].cdp_prep[0].unknown_datapoints = 12
rra[2].cdp_prep[1].value = 0.00e+00
rra[2].cdp_prep[1].unknown_datapoints = 12
rra[2].cdp_prep[2].value = 0.00e+00
rra[2].cdp_prep[2].unknown_datapoints = 12
rra[3].cf = "AVERAGE"
rra[3].rows = 1460
rra[3].pdp_per_row = 1440
rra[3].xff = 5.00e-01
rra[3].cdp_prep[0].value = 0.00e+00
rra[3].cdp_prep[0].unknown_datapoints = 532
rra[3].cdp_prep[1].value = 0.00e+00
rra[3].cdp_prep[1].unknown_datapoints = 532
rra[3].cdp_prep[2].value = 0.00e+00
rra[3].cdp_prep[2].unknown_datapoints = 532

I dont understand why all value is either 0 or NaN or UNKN. This must be the 
reason why lines are not drawing.

And when i do a rrdtool dump cpu.rrd, most of the lines display on screen are 
as below:

  
NaN  NaN  NaN 
  
NaN  NaN  NaN 
  
NaN  NaN  NaN 
  
NaN  NaN  NaN 

Please help. Thanks.

Alex van den Bogaerdt wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 08:19:09AM +0900, "CHEW縲YEW縲CHOONG" wrote:
> 
> 
> >  Im learning perl and rrdtool now. I try to make
> >  rrdtool to monitoring cpu loadavg. Everythings seems
> >  working (rrd db created, updated, rrd images created,
> >  updated. i check with doing a ls -l and compare the
> >  timestamp on those files).
> >  However, the is only one problem that screw the whole
> >  things -- the graph is blank wiht no line :(
> 
> When a RRD is updated, it could be that you updated with the "NaN"
> (or: Unknown) value.  That would show up as an empty "line".
> However, since you are using GAUGE that is unlikely.
> 
> > >   "DS:1min:GAUGE:600:U:U",
> > >   "DS:5min:GAUGE:600:U:U",
> > >   "DS:15min:GAUGE:600:U:U",
> 
> You set your heartbeat to 600 seconds. That's ten minutes.  This is
> OK, provided that you update multiple times, each no more than 600
> seconds apart.  Your step time was 300 seconds so your plan is to
> update every 300 seconds. Those updates are expected to be 300
> seconds apart but MUST NOT be more than 600 seconds apart.
> 
> > > RRDs::update "$rrd/cpu.rrd",
> > >   "-t", "1min:5min:15min",
> > >   "N:$min1:$min5:$min15";
> 
> That `` "-t", "1min:5min:15min",  '' is OK but redundant.
> 
> 
> You should add some debugging to your script and do the computations
> you expect RRDtool to make by hand.  Print those values you are going
> to give to RRDtool into a file, together with current time (in seconds
> since unix epoch would be best for easy monitoring).
> Perhaps "$min1", "$min5" and/or "$min15" are not what you think.
> 
> Use other available comm

[rrd-users] Re: Help on RRDTOO monitoring cpu loadavg needed!

[Alex van den Bogaerdt]

On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 08:19:09AM +0900, "CHEW　YEW　CHOONG" wrote:


>  Im learning perl and rrdtool now. I try to make
>  rrdtool to monitoring cpu loadavg. Everythings seems
>  working (rrd db created, updated, rrd images created,
>  updated. i check with doing a ls -l and compare the
>  timestamp on those files).
>  However, the is only one problem that screw the whole
>  things -- the graph is blank wiht no line :(

When a RRD is updated, it could be that you updated with the "NaN"
(or: Unknown) value.  That would show up as an empty "line".
However, since you are using GAUGE that is unlikely.

> >   "DS:1min:GAUGE:600:U:U",
> >   "DS:5min:GAUGE:600:U:U",
> >   "DS:15min:GAUGE:600:U:U",

You set your heartbeat to 600 seconds. That's ten minutes.  This is
OK, provided that you update multiple times, each no more than 600
seconds apart.  Your step time was 300 seconds so your plan is to
update every 300 seconds. Those updates are expected to be 300
seconds apart but MUST NOT be more than 600 seconds apart.

> > RRDs::update "$rrd/cpu.rrd",
> >   "-t", "1min:5min:15min",
> >   "N:$min1:$min5:$min15";

That `` "-t", "1min:5min:15min",  '' is OK but redundant.


You should add some debugging to your script and do the computations
you expect RRDtool to make by hand.  Print those values you are going
to give to RRDtool into a file, together with current time (in seconds
since unix epoch would be best for easy monitoring).
Perhaps "$min1", "$min5" and/or "$min15" are not what you think.

Use other available commands to help you figure out what is going on.
"rrdtool info" and "rrdtool dump" may be of help here.

Alex

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[rrd-users] Re: help with librrd_th

[winkey]

well in my case i compiled rrdtool from source and it installed as a
library AND a program, the headers are in /usr/include
or /usr/local/include.

most of the functions don't need alot in the way of args. you pass them
an int of how many args and a char ** array of the args ie: argc, argv.
like you ran it from the command line. however the graph function is
different and you should dig up some usage of it to see what they did.
the newer versions of rrdtool use a file pointer and i am not sure what
they did yet.

On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 19:18 +0100, Kevin C. wrote:
> 
> > "Stephen Hall writes:"
> >>
> >> Can someone
> >> tell me how to call rrd_get_context() and interpret the results.  Or 
> >> better
> >> yet, can someone point me to a document that explains how to use the C 
> >> API
> >> (multi-threaded or otherwise)?
> >
> >   Since the silence on this topic was deafening I conclude that this stuff
> > is simply not documented at all.  I suppose that if it was hard to write 
> > it
> > should be even harder to use.  Thanks anyway.
> 
> I want to use rrdtool in C/C++. Would love to help create some sort of 
> bindings or do something with the rrdtool source code.
> 
> I had a look through the rrdtool.h header files, etc. I guess one would use 
> the header files for the functions, and then link in the librrdtool or 
> librrd_th. All the functions are in the header files... even though there's 
> quite a lot of 'em.
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[rrd-users] Re: help with librrd_th

[Kevin C.]

> "Stephen Hall writes:"
>>
>> Can someone
>> tell me how to call rrd_get_context() and interpret the results.  Or 
>> better
>> yet, can someone point me to a document that explains how to use the C 
>> API
>> (multi-threaded or otherwise)?
>
>   Since the silence on this topic was deafening I conclude that this stuff
> is simply not documented at all.  I suppose that if it was hard to write 
> it
> should be even harder to use.  Thanks anyway.

I want to use rrdtool in C/C++. Would love to help create some sort of 
bindings or do something with the rrdtool source code.

I had a look through the rrdtool.h header files, etc. I guess one would use 
the header files for the functions, and then link in the librrdtool or 
librrd_th. All the functions are in the header files... even though there's 
quite a lot of 'em.

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[rrd-users] Re: help with librrd_th

[Stephen Hall]

"Stephen Hall writes:"
> 
> Can someone
> tell me how to call rrd_get_context() and interpret the results.  Or better
> yet, can someone point me to a document that explains how to use the C API
> (multi-threaded or otherwise)?

   Since the silence on this topic was deafening I conclude that this stuff
is simply not documented at all.  I suppose that if it was hard to write it
should be even harder to use.  Thanks anyway.

==
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[rrd-users] Re: Help with Libraries....

[tony]

I have done what Kalin has said, there error message has now got a bit 
smaller! :o)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] perl-shared]# /var/rrd/scripts/rrd_load_graph.pl
Can't load 
'/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/RRDs/RRDs.so' 
for module RRDs: librrd.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such 
file or directory at 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi/DynaLoader.pm line 230.
at /var/rrd/scripts/rrd_load_graph.pl line 5
Compilation failed in require at /var/rrd/scripts/rrd_load_graph.pl line 5.
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[rrd-users] Re: Help understanding rrdtool

[Alex van den Bogaerdt]

On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 11:21:33AM -0300, Maicon Stihler wrote:

> Im a newbie on rrdtool and Ive been reading the tutorials on the
> website, but Im having some trouble to understand it.
> 
> I want to make graphs about CPU utilization, lets say:
> 1 Day - five minute average
> 1 Week - 30 minute average
> 1 Month - 2 hour average
> 1 Year - 1 day average
> 
> Data is read every five minutes.
> 
> I created a rrd archive and succeeded creating a 1 Day graph with the
> following RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:288, when I tried to add an RRA for the
> weekly graph I messed it up.

RRDtool cannot add RRAs by itself.  There may be external tools 
that do this, I don't know.

You need to think what you want (and you already did) and then
create all RRAs in one "rrdtool create" command.

The newly created RRD file will be empty, your data destroyed.
If you absolutely cannot live with this, better backup the file
right now (and each day from now on) until you understand how
you can perform some voodoo and import the saved data into a
new file.

> Does I need to separete the RRAs in diferent archives, so when I try
> to generate the graphs I have only one RRA to get the data from?
> otherwise, if I put all the RRAs in only one archive how do I teel the
> "rrdtool graph" wich RRA to read?

RRDtool graph will select the most suitable RRA for your query.
If you want data from the last hour, it will select the RRA that
contains five minutes per row.  If you ask for the last year, it
will select the RRA that contains data at one day per row.

> All the graphs are averages and of type gauge, except the daily graph
> that averages only one sample.

I really don't see what you're getting at here.  You seem to think
"average" and "gauge" are of the same class.  They're not.  Please
reread the tutorials and manuals about this, or rephrase your remark.

HTH
Alex

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[rrd-users] Re: Help on listing available DEF fields

[Serge Maandag]

> "rddtool info" returned me the data below, can you give me a 
> sample command to use xport to retrieve the data in this 
> file? I couldn't imagine how to find a DEF parameter for this info.

Here's one for example:

rrdtool xport \
--start now-1h --end now \
DEF:xx=172.20.254.1_1.rrd:ds0:AVERAGE \
DEF:yy=172.20.254.1_1.rrd:ds1:AVERAGE \
XPORT:xx:"out bytes" \
XPORT:yy:"in bytes"

Serge.

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[rrd-users] Re: Help on listing available DEF fields

[Pedro Zorzenon Neto]

On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 04:40:09PM +0200, Serge Maandag wrote:
> > Is there any way to list all available fields in RRD
> > database?
> 
> Yes, 
> 
> rrdtool info file.rrd | grep type
> 
> Serge.

Thanks for your answers.

Now another related question, I hope this is the last one :-)

"rddtool info" returned me the data below, can you give me a sample
command to use xport to retrieve the data in this file? I couldn't
imagine how to find a DEF parameter for this info.

Thanks,
  Pedro

filename = "172.20.254.1_1.rrd"
rrd_version = "0001"
step = 300
last_update = 1113490960
ds[ds0].type = "COUNTER"
ds[ds0].minimal_heartbeat = 600
ds[ds0].min = 0.00e+00
ds[ds0].max = 7.60e+04
ds[ds0].last_ds = "1854409829"
ds[ds0].value = 4.44e+04
ds[ds0].unknown_sec = 0
ds[ds1].type = "COUNTER"
ds[ds1].minimal_heartbeat = 600
ds[ds1].min = 0.00e+00
ds[ds1].max = 7.60e+04

rra[0].cf = "AVERAGE"
rra[0].rows = 800
rra[0].pdp_per_row = 1
rra[0].xff = 5.00e-01
rra[0].cdp_prep[0].value = NaN
rra[0].cdp_prep[0].unknown_datapoints = 0
rra[0].cdp_prep[1].value = NaN
rra[0].cdp_prep[1].unknown_datapoints = 0
rra[1].cf = "AVERAGE"
rra[1].rows = 800
rra[1].pdp_per_row = 6
rra[1].xff = 5.00e-01
 (rra goes up to rra[6])

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[rrd-users] Re: Help on listing available DEF fields

[Serge Maandag]

> Is there any way to list all available fields in RRD
> database?

Yes, 

rrdtool info file.rrd | grep type

Serge.

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[rrd-users] Re: Help a new and slightly lost user! :(

[Michael Thompson]

On Sunday 14 November 2004 19:52, Alex van den Bogaerdt wrote:

> If you really expect me to debug your program, please hire me.

I dont expect anything. Just a newbie looking for help..

ps. Dont beg.

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[rrd-users] Re: Help a new and slightly lost user! :(

[Alex van den Bogaerdt]

On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 07:40:02PM +, Michael Thompson wrote:

> > The difference between each reading is not something you want to
> > use rrdtool for.  For these kind of applications you should choose
> > sql, access, or even a flat file.
> >
> Is that not what DERIVE Should do?

Yes, that is not what derive should do.

***EVERYTHING*** is a rate as far as rrdtool is concerned.

counter,derive,gauge determine how to transform the input into a rate.

> > If you want to see a rate, an amount of rejects per second, then rrdtool
> > is the tool to use.
> 
> That is exactly what I am trying to do, but accuracy is important.
> >
> > RTFM rrdgraph, stuff about units-exponent
> 
> I have RTFM, and the units-exponent is'nt helping. It is the accuracy that I 
> need help with. 

No, it was "m" and "k" and such that you also wanted help with. 
If you remove context from a quote, please also remove my answers.

> I have the following Perl Script 



If you really expect me to debug your program, please hire me.

>  Now this _does_ work, with one problem, the values are all wrong. 

The values are probably all right.  Your interpretation is all wrong.

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[rrd-users] Re: Help a new and slightly lost user! :(

[Michael Thompson]

On Sunday 14 November 2004 19:20, Alex van den Bogaerdt wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 10:20:09AM +, Michael Thompson wrote:
> > Sorry, I just read that message and realised it does not make any sense!
>
> Indeed,  "it does not work" is a bit too vague
>
> > What is happening is that it is logging data, but it is logging the
> > verticle scale as k, it needs to show the difference in packets between
> > each reading, and not have any m k or any other symbols apart from the
> > amounts.
>
> You already understand GAUGE may not be the best counter type.

Umm, I have used Counter and DERIVE, yet it still dos'nt get the data right.
>
> The difference between each reading is not something you want to
> use rrdtool for.  For these kind of applications you should choose
> sql, access, or even a flat file.
>
Is that not what DERIVE Should do?

> If you want to see a rate, an amount of rejects per second, then rrdtool
> is the tool to use.

That is exactly what I am trying to do, but accuracy is important.
>
> RTFM rrdgraph, stuff about units-exponent

I have RTFM, and the units-exponent is'nt helping. It is the accuracy that I 
need help with. 


I have the following Perl Script 
 
 

Code:



 #!/usr/bin/perl 
 use RRDs; 
 
 # define location of rrdtool databases 
 my $rrd = '/var/lib/rrd'; 
 # define location of images 
 my $img = '/var/www/localhost/htdocs/temp/'; 
 
 &ProcessChain("DROP-INPUT", "Input Chain Drops"); 
 &ProcessChain("DROP-FORWARD","Forward Chain Drops"); 
 
 sub ProcessChain 
 { 
 # process interface 
 # inputs: $_[0]: Chain Name 
 # $_[1]: Chain Description 
 
 # get info 
 my $in = `/sbin/iptables -L $_[0] -v | grep LOG | awk '{print \$1}'`; 
 #my $out =`/sbin/iptables -L $_[0] -v | grep LOG | awk '{print 
\$2}'`; 
 
 # remove eol chars 
 chomp($in); 
 
 print "$_[0] packets in: $in\n"; 
 
 # if rrdtool database doesn't exist, create it 
 if (! -e "$rrd/$_[0].rrd") 
 { 
 print "creating rrd database for $_[0]...\n"; 
 RRDs::create "$rrd/$_[0].rrd", 
 "-s 300", 
 "DS:drop:DERIVE:600:0:1250", 
 "RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:576", 
 "RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:6:672", 
 "RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:24:732", 
 "RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:144:1460"; 
 } 
 
 # insert values into rrd 
 RRDs::update "$rrd/$_[0].rrd", 
 "-t", "drop", 
 "N:$in"; 
 
 # create traffic graphs 
 &CreateGraph($_[0], "day", $_[1]); 
 &CreateGraph($_[0], "week", $_[1]); 
 &CreateGraph($_[0], "month", $_[1]); 
 &CreateGraph($_[0], "year", $_[1]); 
 } 
 
 sub CreateGraph 
 { 
 # creates graph 
 # inputs: $_[0]: Chain Name 
 # $_[1]: interval (ie, day, week, month, year) 
 # $_[2]: Chain Description 
 
 RRDs::graph "$img/$_[0]-$_[1].png", 
 "-s -1$_[1]", 
 "-t $_[0] :: $_[2]", 
 #   "--lazy", 
 "-h", "80", "-w", "600", 
 "-l 0", 
 "-a", "PNG", 
 "-v Packets", 
 "DEF:drop=$rrd/$_[0].rrd:drop:AVERAGE", 
 "CDEF:dropav=drop,3600,*", 
 "AREA:dropav#32CD32:Dropped Packets", 
 "LINE1:dropav#336600", 
 "GPRINT:dropav:MAX:  Max\\: %5.0lf %s", 
 "GPRINT:dropav:AVERAGE: Avg\\: %5.1lf %S", 
 "GPRINT:dropav:LAST: Current\\: %5.0lf %SPackets", 
 "HRULE:0#00"; 
 if ($ERROR = RRDs::error) { print "$0: unable to generate $_[0] $_[1] 
traffic graph: $ERR$ 
 } 
 
 


 
 Now this _does_ work, with one problem, the values are all wrong. 
 
 The graph looks like this 
 
 http://mains.bounceme.net/DROP-INPUT-day.png 
 
 
 As you can see, the current value is 12, however the command returns 
 4. So where is it getting the value of 12? 
 
 Could it be the fact that I am storing the Average value in the RRD? I have 
several other scripts that are virtually the same and they all return the 
correct values. 

>
> HTH
> Alex

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[rrd-users] Re: Help a new and slightly lost user! :(

[Alex van den Bogaerdt]

On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 10:20:09AM +, Michael Thompson wrote:

> Sorry, I just read that message and realised it does not make any sense!

Indeed,  "it does not work" is a bit too vague

> What is happening is that it is logging data, but it is logging the verticle 
> scale as k, it needs to show the difference in packets between each reading, 
> and not have any m k or any other symbols apart from the amounts.

You already understand GAUGE may not be the best counter type.

The difference between each reading is not something you want to
use rrdtool for.  For these kind of applications you should choose
sql, access, or even a flat file.

If you want to see a rate, an amount of rejects per second, then rrdtool
is the tool to use.

As with any other counter, let rrdtool do the calculations for you.  Either
counter or derive should do.

> But that prints m on the GPRINT lines, and I am not sure of how to get rid. I 
> am also not entirly sure of the accuracy of the results.

RTFM rrdgraph, stuff about units-exponent

HTH
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[rrd-users] Re: Help a new and slightly lost user! :(

[Michael Thompson]

On Saturday 13 November 2004 09:50, Michael Thompson wrote:

Sorry, I just read that message and realised it does not make any sense!

What is happening is that it is logging data, but it is logging the verticle 
scale as k, it needs to show the difference in packets between each reading, 
and not have any m k or any other symbols apart from the amounts.

I did come up with the following code:

# if rrdtool database doesn't exist, create it
if (! -e "$rrd/$_[0].rrd")
{
print "creating rrd database for $_[0]..\n";
RRDs::create "$rrd/$_[0].rrd",
"-s 300",
"DS:drop:DERIVE:600:0:1250",
"RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:576",
"RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:6:672",
"RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:24:732",
"RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:144:1460";
}

# insert values into rrd
RRDs::update "$rrd/$_[0].rrd",
"-t", "in",
"N:$in";

# create traffic graphs
&CreateGraph($_[0], "day", $_[1]);
&CreateGraph($_[0], "week", $_[1]);
&CreateGraph($_[0], "month", $_[1]);
&CreateGraph($_[0], "year", $_[1]);
}

sub CreateGraph
 

{
# creates graph

RRDs::graph "$img/$_[0]-$_[1].png",
"-s -1$_[1]",
"-t traffic on $_[0] :: $_[2]",
"--lazy",
"-h", "80", "-w", "600",
"-l 0",
"-a", "PNG",
"-v bytes/sec",
"DEF:drop=$rrd/$_[0].rrd:drop:AVERAGE",
"AREA:drop#32CD32:Incoming",
"LINE1:drop#336600",
"GPRINT:drop:MAX:  Max\\: %5.1lf %s",
"GPRINT:drop:AVERAGE: Avg\\: %5.1lf %S",
"GPRINT:drop:LAST: Current\\: %5.1lf %Sbytes/sec\\n",
"HRULE:0#00";
if ($ERROR = RRDs::error) { print "$0: unable to generate $_[0] $_[1] 
traffic graph: $ERROR\n"; }
}

But that prints m on the GPRINT lines, and I am not sure of how to get rid. I 
am also not entirly sure of the accuracy of the results.

Any thoughts??


Many Thanks for your time

Michael

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[rrd-users] Re: help with cdef

[Alex van den Bogaerdt]

On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 10:20:16AM -0700, winkey wrote:

> i cannot seem to figure this out, i get results i do not expect
> 
> rrdtool graph \
> /home/rush/public_html/weather/metar/dir.gif \
> --color=BACK#CC \
> --color=CANVAS#CC \
> --title="Daily Wind Direction" \
> --width=300 \
> 
> DEF:dir=/home/rush/public_html/weather/metar/weather.rrd:winddir:AVERAGE \
> 
> DEF:speed=/home/rush/public_html/weather/metar/weather.rrd:windspeed:AVERAGE \
> CDEF:calm=speed,0,EQ \
> CDEF:mydir=calm,UNKN,dir,IF \
> LINE2:mydir#00a000:"Degrees"
> 
> 
> basicly if speed is zero i want an unknown value for direction but i
> seem to be ending up with unknowns for speeds greater than zero and
> other anomolys

EQ gives a boolean as result.  "calm=speed,0,EQ" results in:

if speed==0
   then return true
   else return false

Next you are using that boolean in an if-then-else:

if calm
   then return UNKN
   else return direction

The end result will be:

if (speed==0)
   then return unknown
   else return direction.

This matches what you expect.  If the result is not what you expect,
most likely the input is not what you think it is.

HTH
Alex

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[rrd-users] Re: Help on rrdtool " cmd_head3

[Koshti, Manoj]

While compiling rrdtool I get this error. Can some one guide me what does it
means?

Can't locate object method "cmd_head3" via package
"Pod::Man" at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.0/Pod/Man.pm
line 463,  line 225.

make[1]: *** [rrd-beginners.1] Error 255

Thanks
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CCIE 13142, CCIP

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[rrd-users] Re: help with GAUGE and RRAs

[Hugo van der Kooij]

On Sun, 1 Aug 2004, M. Yu wrote:

> I need to monitor, among other things, the Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR)
> of several cable modems to get an accurate picture of the health of the
> cable plant.  Since I will be monitoring 100s of cable modems (CMs) and
> each CM's SNR values will be stored for a period of 1 year max, I was
> thinking of using RRD instead of mySQL to store these values.

Frankly, I think a SQL database may be better suited for your
application. You need to store information with a level of detail that
does not fit well in RRD if my interpretation is right. It will surely not
fit the detail level you did describe.

Hugo.

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[rrd-users] Re: help with graph issue

[Pavel Ruzicka]

Hello,

> But  would like the graphs it produces to be filled in below , like MRTG
> graphs are.

You must use AREA (and STACK) on place LINE.

See http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/manual/rrdgraph.html

> I thought the setting '--alt-y-mrtg' did that but I seem to get an error
> when thats placed in the 'rrdtool graph' command line.

This option only alternatively computes Y axis.
This option is relatively new and was not in older RRDTool versions.

Best regards,

Pavel Ruzicka

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[rrd-users] Re: help a newbie pls

[Alex van den Bogaerdt]

On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 05:14:46PM +0200, Ionescu Ionut wrote:

> So i'm gonna put here all the steps i took since i started using mrtg &
> rrd tool
> 
> 
> 0. use Win2k
> 1. download & install perl (ActivePerl-5.8.2.808-MSWin32-x86.msi)
> 2. download mrtg (mrtg-2.10.13.zip)
> 3. use cfgmaker to make a config file
> 4. use mrtg to graph traffic
> 
> --- until now everything works perfectly ---
> 
> 5. download rrdtool (rrdtool-1.0.40.x86distr.zip-5.8.zip)
> 6. go to 'perl-shared' folder of rrdtool and run the following: ppm install
> rrds.ppd
> 7. go to my config file and add:
> - workdir: c:\rrdtool\rrds // 'rrds' folder created by me
> - pathadd: c:\rrdtool\bin // the 'bin' folder did not exist (as the guide i
> was reading said it would) so i created it and copied here the .exe's from
> 'src' folder

Try one of the following methods to write your paths:

workdir: C\:\\rrdtool\\rrds
workdir: C\:/rrdtool/rrds

same for other paths.

Perl is processing "C:\rrdtool\rrds" into "C:rrdtoolrrds" which is a dir
that does not exist.

RRDtool will probably have problems with ":" (in C:) as this is a separator
inside the command:

   DEF:xyz=C:\rrdtool\rrds/file.rrd:name:AVERAGE

will be processed into:

   DEF:xyz=C:rrdtoolrrds/file.rrd:name:AVERAGE

and RRDtool is looking for the datasource named "rrdtoolrrds/file.rrd" in
file "C", looking for "name"s in stead of AVERAGEs 

Alex

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[rrd-users] Re: help a newbie pls

[Ionescu Ionut]

I apologize
It seems that my problem is not the use of graph feature from rrd tool.
So i'm gonna put here all the steps i took since i started using mrtg &
rrd tool


0. use Win2k
1. download & install perl (ActivePerl-5.8.2.808-MSWin32-x86.msi)
2. download mrtg (mrtg-2.10.13.zip)
3. use cfgmaker to make a config file
4. use mrtg to graph traffic

--- until now everything works perfectly ---

5. download rrdtool (rrdtool-1.0.40.x86distr.zip-5.8.zip)
6. go to 'perl-shared' folder of rrdtool and run the following: ppm install
rrds.ppd
7. go to my config file and add:
- workdir: c:\rrdtool\rrds // 'rrds' folder created by me
- pathadd: c:\rrdtool\bin // the 'bin' folder did not exist (as the guide i
was reading said it would) so i created it and copied here the .exe's from
'src' folder
- libadd: c:\rrdtool\perl-shared
- logformat: rrdtool
8. run mrtg again with the updated config file

--- now, the fun part ---

9. at this point, the following happens:
 - the graph and html generation stops (that's normal)
 - .rdd files are created for every target i monitor in my 'rrds' folder
(about 100KB each; did not modify them in any way)
 - however, they don't seem to update... (when I run 'rrdtool info' for any
one of my rrd's, the 'last_update field' doesn't change its value, even
though i ran info several times - 5 to 10 minutes apart)
 - so, it's only logical to have errors when i try to graph something out of
nothing (?)

This is my current status i don't know what else to do, as most docs and
info are for unix users :(

...help...please...10x

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Subject: [rrd-users] Re: help a newbie pls


> On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 03:10:25PM +0100, Martin Horak wrote:
> > My simplest command:
> >
> > rrdtool graph test.png -s now-10h -e now
> > DEF:a='/var/www/data/rrd/routersce0.rrd':s1in:AVERAGE LINE1:a#ff
>
> I can beat that :)
>
> I'm not entirely sure about the short form of the colour.
> Path to png and to rrd can be changed as needed.
> Multiply the DEF and LINE statements for ds1 if desired
>
> rrdtool graph test.png DEF:i=routersce0.rrd:ds0:AVERAGE LINE1:i#f00
>
> cheers,
> Alex
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[rrd-users] Re: help a newbie pls

[Alex van den Bogaerdt]

On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 03:10:25PM +0100, Martin Horak wrote:
> My simplest command:
> 
> rrdtool graph test.png -s now-10h -e now 
> DEF:a='/var/www/data/rrd/routersce0.rrd':s1in:AVERAGE LINE1:a#ff

I can beat that :)

I'm not entirely sure about the short form of the colour.
Path to png and to rrd can be changed as needed.
Multiply the DEF and LINE statements for ds1 if desired

rrdtool graph test.png DEF:i=routersce0.rrd:ds0:AVERAGE LINE1:i#f00

cheers,
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[rrd-users] Re: help a newbie pls

[Martin Horak]

My simplest command:

rrdtool graph test.png -s now-10h -e now 
DEF:a='/var/www/data/rrd/routersce0.rrd':s1in:AVERAGE LINE1:a#ff

(all on one line)

Generates quite nice image into working directory.

Ionescu Ionut wrote:
> I've tried the uppercase variant with the same result...
> I've tried to lose the backslashes, also no success
> 
> I was wondering 
> How can I create the most generic graph . no customizations no
> nothing the fewest parameters possible. I have a rrd file (traffic I/O)
> and I want a png file (traffic (I/O). I open the cmd prompt and, I guess
> "the problem is located between keyboard and chair, please replace user" :)

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[rrd-users] Re: help a newbie pls

[Martin Horak]

It seems that rrdtool don't understand the parameters.

Did you try uppercase DEF and AVERAGE, or using ' instead of "?

Maybe backslashes are problematic - try to escape them.

I use Linux version and don't have problems/experience with backslashes.

Martin

Ionescu Ionut wrote:
> this is what i typed on cmd prompt:
> 
> rrdtool graph "c:\test.png" -s 1077529905 -e 1077530205 -t "Test"
> def:xx="c:\mrtghtml\log\10.0.0.1_1.rrd":ds0:average
> def:yy="c:\mrtghtml\log\10.0.0.1_1.rrd":ds1:average
> 
>  and the error message is:
> ERROR: can't parse 'def:xx=c:\mtrghtml\log\10.0.0.1_1.rrd:ds0:average'
> 
> The mrtg config file worked perfectly until i implemented rrd tool, It had
> the following:
> 
> Htmldir: c:\mrtghtml
> Imagedir: c:\mrtghtml\img
> Logdir: c:\mrtghtml\log
> RunAsDaemon: Yes
> Interval:5
> --- and, of course the targets i wanted to monitor ---


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[rrd-users] Re: help a newbie pls

[Ionescu Ionut]

this is what i typed on cmd prompt:

rrdtool graph "c:\test.png" -s 1077529905 -e 1077530205 -t "Test"
def:xx="c:\mrtghtml\log\10.0.0.1_1.rrd":ds0:average
def:yy="c:\mrtghtml\log\10.0.0.1_1.rrd":ds1:average

 and the error message is:
ERROR: can't parse 'def:xx=c:\mtrghtml\log\10.0.0.1_1.rrd:ds0:average'

The mrtg config file worked perfectly until i implemented rrd tool, It had
the following:

Htmldir: c:\mrtghtml
Imagedir: c:\mrtghtml\img
Logdir: c:\mrtghtml\log
RunAsDaemon: Yes
Interval:5
--- and, of course the targets i wanted to monitor ---

After implementing rrd, I added :

pathadd: c:\rrdtool\bin
libadd: c:\rrdtool\perl-shared
logformat: rrdtool

When I try to dump the info of a rrd file into a .xml, no .xml file is
created...

Maybe I did not implement rrd tool corectly, or I used the wrong
distribution pack

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From: "Martin Horak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ionescu Ionut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [rrd-users] help a newbie pls


> Try to copy & paste your configuration files and error messages you get
> into your message...
>
> Ionescu Ionut wrote:
> >
> > Anyway... I've succeeeded in making rrd files for the device I was
> > trying to monitor...
> > However when I try to graph anything, I always get errors (like: can't
> > parse).
> > All I want to do is to generate on-demand grahps regarding the traffic
> > flow for a given period of time... bits in and bits out for a specific
> > interface.. nothing more.
> >
> > Please, help me and thank you in advance
> >

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[rrd-users] Re: HELP needed in Problem while compiling RRD on SOLARIS 8

[Dave Lugo]

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004, Tanveer Ahmad Dar wrote:
> 
> Hi again,
> 
>No  i havent specified that but how would we do that as i dont find CC in
> help . can you gimme any clue on that .thanx
> 


It depends what shell you use. 

for csh and tcsh, I think you'd say:

  setenv CC /path/to/gcc

for sh/bash/ksh, try:

  CC=/path/to/gcc
  export CC

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[rrd-users] Re: HELP needed in Problem while compiling RRD on SOLARIS 8

[Tanveer Ahmad Dar]

Hi again,

   No  i havent specified that but how would we do that as i dont find CC in
help . can you gimme any clue on that .thanx

Regards
Tanveer


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Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [rrd-users] Re: HELP needed in Problem while compiling RRD on
SOLARIS 8


> On Sun, 18 Jan 2004, Tanveer Ahmad Dar wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >  Yah it does exist in the same directory as the make file is using and
> > that directory is also specified in PATH .Actually if i execute the
> > following command diectly i get the same message that means that the
> > only issue is with cc itself and i need to find out what language
> > optional package is not installed or how can i make my MAKEFILE to use
> > gcc rather than cc.
> >
> >
> > /usr/ucb/cc
> > /usr/ucb/cc:  language optional software package not installed
> >
>
>
> Ugh - yes, you're correct.   Have you tried specifying the environment
> variable 'CC', as mentioned in `configure --help` ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave
>
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[rrd-users] Re: HELP needed in Problem while compiling RRD on SOLARIS 8

[Dave Lugo]

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004, Tanveer Ahmad Dar wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  Yah it does exist in the same directory as the make file is using and
> that directory is also specified in PATH .Actually if i execute the
> following command diectly i get the same message that means that the
> only issue is with cc itself and i need to find out what language
> optional package is not installed or how can i make my MAKEFILE to use
> gcc rather than cc.
> 
> 
> /usr/ucb/cc
> /usr/ucb/cc:  language optional software package not installed
> 


Ugh - yes, you're correct.   Have you tried specifying the environment 
variable 'CC', as mentioned in `configure --help` ?

Regards,

Dave

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[rrd-users] Re: HELP needed in Problem while compiling RRD on SOLARIS 8

[Tanveer Ahmad Dar]

Hi,
 Yah it does exist in the same directory as the make file is using and that 
directory is also specified in PATH .Actually if i execute the following 
command diectly i get the same message that means that the only issue is with 
cc itself and i need to find out what language optional package is not 
installed or how can i make my MAKEFILE to use gcc rather than cc.


/usr/ucb/cc
/usr/ucb/cc:  language optional software package not installed

Thanx

Regards
Tanveer

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Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 7:15 AM
Subject: [rrd-users] Re: HELP needed in Problem while compiling RRD on SOLARIS 8


> On Sun, 18 Jan 2004, Tanveer Ahmad Dar wrote:
> 
> >   I have Solaris 8 and i am trying to compile RRD but getting some
> > strange error couldn't find the clue Can anyone help me out in this
> > .While i do make to RRD i get an error message saying as below in Bold:
> >  
> >  cc -c -I../src -I../gd1.3  -xO3 -xdepend -DVERSION=\"1.000371\"  
> > -DXS_VERSION=\"1.000371\" -KPIC -I/usr/perl5/5.00503/sun4-solaris/CORE 
> > -DPERLPATCHLEVEL=5 RRDs.c
> >  /usr/ucb/cc:  language optional software package not installed
> >  *** Error code 1
> ~--~
> > > 
> > > Now please can anyone tell which optional Language package i need to
> > > istall to compile my RRD correctly.any kinda help will be very much
> > > appreciated
> > > 
> 
> 
> Does /usr/ucb/cc exist on your system?  I suspect the makefile is 
> trying to call the Solaris C compiler, not gcc.
> 
> 
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[rrd-users] Re: HELP needed in Problem while compiling RRD on SOLARIS 8

[Dave Lugo]

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004, Tanveer Ahmad Dar wrote:

>   I have Solaris 8 and i am trying to compile RRD but getting some
> strange error couldn't find the clue Can anyone help me out in this
> .While i do make to RRD i get an error message saying as below in Bold:
>  
>  cc -c -I../src -I../gd1.3  -xO3 -xdepend -DVERSION=\"1.000371\"  
> -DXS_VERSION=\"1.000371\" -KPIC -I/usr/perl5/5.00503/sun4-solaris/CORE 
> -DPERLPATCHLEVEL=5 RRDs.c
>  /usr/ucb/cc:  language optional software package not installed
>  *** Error code 1
~--~
> > 
> > Now please can anyone tell which optional Language package i need to
> > istall to compile my RRD correctly.any kinda help will be very much
> > appreciated
> > 


Does /usr/ucb/cc exist on your system?  I suspect the makefile is 
trying to call the Solaris C compiler, not gcc.


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[rrd-users] Re: Help: how do I put '%' in GPRINT?

[Michael Boman]

On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 00:29, Yi Chu wrote:
> I want to display 's0 54.1%' on the graph (utilization
> for interface s0).  I can do 's0  54.1' with GPRINT,
> but have trouble to put in the '%'.
> 
> Here is what I hve for GPRINT
> 
> "GPRINT:BtoApct:MAX:$intface  %4.1lf"
> 
> which produced '54'.  I tried 
> 
> "GPRINT:BtoApct:MAX:$intface  %4.1lf %s\%"
> 
> and it did not work. Error message is
> 
> ERROR: bad format for [G]PRINT in 's0  %4.1lf %s%'
> 
> Please help advise.
> 
> yi
If I recall correctly you need to do double % signs for a litteral %
sign:

GPRINT:BtoApct:MAX:$intface  %4.1lf %s%%

Warning, not tested.

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[rrd-users] Re: help with error please

[Stephan Harren]

Try the following:

- Make sure that your output file (GIF/PNG) is formatted like this:

 c:\\inetpub\\graphs\\output.gif

- Make sure that your RRD definitions are like this:

 c\\:\\inetpub\\wwwroot\\mrtg\\rrdtool\\drmateo_e4.rrd:ds0:AVERAGE

If this doesn't work (I use this in my perl scripts), try single 
backslashes.

Best regards,

Stephan

Van den Bossche Eric wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>can someone try to find the error here (i'm not that experienced with RRD)
>
>C:\Inetpub\wwwroot>rrdtool.exe graph
>c:\inetpub\wwwroot\sher-member-01_mem_fault
>s_Daily.png -s -2000m -e now -a PNG -w 800 -h 300 --alt-y-grid --lazy -c
>MGRID#e
>e -c GRID#00
>DEF:in=c:\mrtg_workdir\sher-member-01\sher-member-01_mem_fa
>ults.rrd:ds0:AVERAGE
>DEF:out=c:\mrtg_workdir\sher-member-01\sher-member-01_mem_f
>aults.rrd:ds1:AVERAGE CDEF:pin=in,100,/,100,*,1,/
>CDEF:pout=out,1000
>000,/,100,*,1,/
>DEF:min=c:\mrtg_workdir\sher-member-01\sher-member-01_mem_faults
>.rrd:ds0:MAX
>DEF:mout=c:\mrtg_workdir\sher-member-01\sher-member-01_mem_faults.r
>rd:ds1:MAX AREA:in#005499:"Maximal Incoming Traffic"\l
>LINE1:out#e52325:"Maximal
> Outgoing Traffic"\l GPRINT:min:MAX:"Max In\: %8.3lf %s"
>GPRINT:pin:MAX:"(%3.0lf
>%%)" GPRINT:mout:MAX:"Max Out\: %8.3lf %s" GPRINT:pout:MAX:"(%3.0lf%%)"\l
>GPRINT
>:in:AVERAGE:"Avg In\: %8.3lf %s" GPRINT:pin:AVERAGE:"(%3.0lf%%)"
>GPRINT:out:AVER
>AGE:"Avg Out\: %8.3lf %s" GPRINT:pout:AVERAGE:"(%3.0lf%%)"\l
>GPRINT:in:LAST:"Cur
> In\: %8.3lf %s" GPRINT:pin:LAST:"(%3.0lf%%)" GPRINT:out:LAST:"Cur Out\:
>%8.3lf
>%s" GPRINT:pout:LAST:"(%3.0lf%%)\l"
>
>
>ERROR: can't parse DEF
>'in=c:\mrtg_workdir\sher-member-01\sher-member-01_mem_fau
>lts.rrd:ds0:AVERAGE' -2
>
>
>Greetings Eric
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[rrd-users] Re: Help Setting Up RRDatabase

[Alex van den Bogaerdt]

On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 02:54:59PM -0400, Blake Crosby wrote:
> I'm havng difficulty understanding the relationship between heartbeat and
> step.

Don't look for a close relationship; there isn't.

> I have 4 values that I would like to place in the rrd database every 30 min
> (11 and 44 minutes past each hour). However I would like the graph to be as
> smooth as possible (especially when only 24-36 hours worth of data is
> displayed).
> 
> I'm assuming id set up the step to be 300 seconds (5 minutes) and the
> heartbeat to be 1800 seconds (30 minutes). This way rrdtool will average the
> values between the 30 minute updates.

Why?  If you're going to set step to 300 and update every 6*300 seconds,
all you achieve is that you'll be updating 6 intervals in one command.

There's no smoothing going on.

You're right about the heartbeat, although I'd set it to something larger
than 1800 (say 2000 or so).

> When I create the rrdatabase then do a dump, each row is a multiple of 5
> minutes (regardless of what time the --start value is). Since I am updating
> the database at 11 and 44 minutes past each hour are those values going to
> get lost?

Plenty of information available on the normalizing process so I won't
repeat that.  Please google for it.

HTH
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[rrd-users] Re: Help about creating graphs

[Alex van den Bogaerdt]

On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 05:16:02PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> And I did this to make gif files:
>  /usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.42/bin/rrdtool graph test.gif --start 0 \
>  DEF:in_bytes=/var/local/flows/graphs/total.rrd:in_bytes:AVERAGE \
>  LINE2:in_bytes#FF000:"in_bytes"

Go back to the manual page for "rrdtool graph" and focus on the time
value given to "--start".

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[rrd-users] Re: Help

[Markus Mayer]

On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 10:48:57AM -0400, Dave Parrott wrote:
> Any Ideas or links where I can find the information?
> 
> > gcc -c -I../src -I../gd1.3  -xO3 -xdepend [...]

You are using Sun Workshop/Forte compiler-flags with GCC. GCC doesn't
understand -xO3 (it's just -O3) and -xdepend (I don't know of any GCC
equivalent here).

I guess this happens automatically compiling RRD under Solaris (I've never
done that myself, but I know it from compiling other Perl modules). So you
have basically 2 choices if you want to compile RRD yourself:

1) Write a wrapper script for gcc (called 'mycc' or some such) that catches
all Sun compiler flags and converts them to GCC flags (-xO3 -> -O3, -KPIC ->
-fPIC, etc.) and then calls GCC. Of course the makefile must then call
'mycc' as C compiler.

2) Or you download a demo-version of Sun's compiler from their web-site for
free. It runs for 30 or 60 days (can't remember).

Hope that helps.

Markus

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[rrd-users] Re: Help

[Dave Parrott]

Any Ideas or links where I can find the information?

Thanks in Advance,

dp

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Parrott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:24 AM
Subject: [rrd-users] Help


> When trying to run  make site-perl-install I get the following errors Ive
> tried everything i can think of and searched every where else.  Can anyone
> please help?
>
> OS: solaris 8
>
>
gcc -c -I../src -I../gd1.3  -xO3 -xdepend-DVERSION=\"1.000421\" -DXS_VER
> SION=\"1.000421\"  -I/usr/perl5/5.00503/sun4-sola
> ris/CORE -DPERLPATCHLEVEL=5 RRDs.c
> gcc: language depend not recognized
> gcc: RRDs.c: linker input file unused because linking not done
> LD_RUN_PATH="" cc -o blib/arch/auto/RRDs/RRDs.so  -G
> RRDs.o -L../src/.libs/ -lrrd_private -lm
> cc: RRDs.o: No such file or directory
> make[2]: *** [blib/arch/auto/RRDs/RRDs.so] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/export/home/dparrott/rrdtool-1.0.42/perl-shared'
> make[1]: *** [perl_shared] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/export/home/dparrott/rrdtool-1.0.42'
> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave Parrott
>
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[rrd-users] Re: Help with counter wrap

[Alejandro D. Garin]

On Thursday 05 June 2003 06:24, Iñaki Martínez wrote:
> Hello Alejandro Diego Garin!!!
>
> > I have problems with the counters and the wrap issue. My front-end solve
> > the problem of a reset checking the uptime but in case of counters wrap
> > I am with problems.
> >
> > RRD database configuration:
> >
> >"DS:testmeasure:COUNTER:1200:U:1250"
> >"RRA:MAX:0.5:1:288",
> >"RRA:MIN:0.5:1:288",
> >"RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:288"
>
>  try to change this line:
>
> DS:testmeasure:COUNTER:1200:U:1250
>
>  for this one:
>
> DS:testmeasure:DERIVE:1200:0:1250

Hello, thanks for your answer, 
Yes this work fine, but with a gap in the graph  I understood that 
COUNTERs with a MAX can manage this problem nicely.

This is just fine for some of my interfaces but others need to manage the wrap 
because of the hight usage and many counter wraps, so I need the COUNTER DST.

I' m checking the sysuptime so if the interfaces counter is reseted i can 
detect it and handle this with the COUNTER Data source type.

Why the COUNTER dst doesn't work in my case ?

Alejandro
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[rrd-users] Re: Help with counter wrap

[Iñaki Martínez]

Hello Alejandro Diego Garin!!!

> I have problems with the counters and the wrap issue. My front-end solve
> the problem of a reset checking the uptime but in case of counters wrap
> I am with problems.
> 
> RRD database configuration:
> 
>  "DS:testmeasure:COUNTER:1200:U:1250"
>"RRA:MAX:0.5:1:288",
>  "RRA:MIN:0.5:1:288",
>  "RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:288"
> 

 try to change this line:

DS:testmeasure:COUNTER:1200:U:1250

 for this one:

DS:testmeasure:DERIVE:1200:0:1250


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[rrd-users] Re: help me compiling remstats

[Serge Maandag]

It all depends on which platform you're using.
Check whether you have installed libgd and the perl gd module:
http://stein.cshl.org/WWW/software/GD/

Serge.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:40 AM
To: rrd-users@list.ee.ethz.ch
Subject: [rrd-users] help me compiling remstats


hi, i'm student and i'm in intership
i have to install remstats and see how it works
but i have a big problem, i can't compile it
it seems to come from the GD library
i get the folowing messages :
"can't locate GD.pm in @INC"
so i move GD.pm in a directory contained in @INC but when i do this i
get another error message
"can't load object for module GD ..."
can someone please help me
it's been almost a week since i've begun to try to install remstats, i'm
turning crazy

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[rrd-users] Re: help with remstats

[Thomas Erskine]

At 04:09 2003-05-07, David IMANACHE wrote:
 >Hi everybody!
 >
 >I'm a new user of remstats and i have some problems to configure it. I'm
 >working with Debian and i've installed all remstats packets . I've also
 >installed remstats-servers packet on the remote station i want to graph.
 >I've read the installation guide but when i'm executing "new-ping-hosts"

When you invoke new-ping-hosts, you must give it two things:  The name of a 
group and a list of hosts.  The syntax is:
 usage: new-ping-hosts [options] group [hostsfile ...]

The "hostsfile" is just a list (one per line) of host-names.  Judging from 
the errors below, you've given it a host configuration file instead.  The 
next release will have clearer documentation.

 >i've got:
 >ERROR: get_ip: couldn't find IP number for  desc
 >"remote_machine-name" host
 >ERROR: get_ip: couldn't find IP number for  group  "my_group"
 >ERROR: get_ip: couldn't find IP number for  ip  "remote_machine_ip"
 >
 >What did i forget? Is anybody could help me?
 >Thanks in advance
 >David
 >
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[rrd-users] Re: Help with running remstats

[gab.seun jones.ewulomi]

Hi Thomas,

Have downloaded and compiled it very fine. You just save me from having to 
compile a old version of perl. Thank you very much.

The only problem now is starting the remstats processes using 
./run-remstats2 has you suggested

I get this error in the LAST/LOGs

2003-03-17 16:36:56 read config file
2003-03-17 16:36:56 starting
2003-03-17 16:36:56 starting stage check
2003-03-17 16:36:56 forked 31315 for check:check-config
2003-03-17 16:36:57   finished 31315 for check:check-config
2003-03-17 16:36:57 done stage check
2003-03-17 16:36:57 starting stage ping
2003-03-17 16:36:57 forked 31317 for ping:ping
2003-03-17 16:37:10   finished 31317 for ping:ping
2003-03-17 16:37:10 done stage ping
2003-03-17 16:37:10 starting stage collectors
2003-03-17 16:37:10 forked 31323 for collectors:nt-status
2003-03-17 16:37:11 forked 31326 for collectors:dbi
2003-03-17 16:37:12 forked 31329 for collectors:port
2003-03-17 16:37:13 forked 31332 for collectors:log
2003-03-17 16:37:14 forked 31335 for collectors:snmp
2003-03-17 16:37:15 forked 31338 for collectors:unix-status
2003-03-17 16:37:20   finished 31326 for collectors:dbi
2003-03-17 16:37:21   finished 31329 for collectors:port
2003-03-17 16:37:21   finished 31323 for collectors:nt-status
2003-03-17 16:37:21   finished 31332 for collectors:log
2003-03-17 16:37:21   finished 31338 for collectors:unix-status
2003-03-17 16:37:22   finished 31335 for collectors:snmp
2003-03-17 16:37:22 done stage collectors
2003-03-17 16:37:22 starting stage post-collector
2003-03-17 16:37:22 forked 31343 for post-collector:error-collector
2003-03-17 16:37:23   finished 31343 for post-collector:error-collector
2003-03-17 16:37:23 done stage post-collector
2003-03-17 16:37:23 starting stage monitors
2003-03-17 16:37:23 forked 31346 for monitors:ping-monitor
2003-03-17 16:37:24 forked 31348 for monitors:alert-monitor
2003-03-17 16:37:25   finished 31346 for monitors:ping-monitor
2003-03-17 16:37:25   finished 31348 for monitors:alert-monitor
2003-03-17 16:37:25 done stage monitors
2003-03-17 16:37:25 starting stage pagemakers
2003-03-17 16:37:25   check for 'CONFIGCHANGE' failed; skipped
2003-03-17 16:37:25 done stage FINISH

DEBUG output of ./run-remstats2

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ ./run-remstats2 -d 000
DEBUG:
DEBUG: Starting stage check
DEBUG:   check for '' passed

DEBUG:
DEBUG: Starting stage ping
DEBUG:   check for '' passed

DEBUG: Starting stage collectors
DEBUG:   check for '' passed

DEBUG:
DEBUG: Starting stage post-collector
DEBUG:   check for '' passed
DEBUG: freq: post-collector:error-collector: last=0, freq=300 => 1
DEBUG:   2003-03-17 17:09:29 31750 forked for post-collector:error-collector
DEBUG:   2003-03-17 17:09:31 31750 finished for 
post-collector:error-collector
DEBUG:
DEBUG: Starting stage monitors
DEBUG:   check for '' passed
:
DEBUG: Starting stage pagemakers
DEBUG: last changed config was /var/remstats/etc/config/./html at 2003-03-17 
15:49:29
DEBUG: check_when: stage=pagemakers, check=CONFIGCHANGE => 0
DEBUG:   check for 'CONFIGCHANGE' failed; skipped

1)when I invoke the ./run-remstats2 command it just hangs then quits. But 
when I do a ps I see no remstat processes
2)AFAIK All the file have been created under the hosts, data, html etc 
directories.
3)To go to the remstats url index page. typing the http:// I presume should take me straight there but all I see is the apache 
test page.

It is saying failed for 'CONFIGCHANGE'. i really dont know what to do with 
that file or what it does

Please any help will me appreciated. I feel so discouraged.

regards,
seun


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[rrd-users] Re: Help me

[listuser]

Jose,

I imagine you intended to mail the rrd-users mailing list and not myself.  
The address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am quite new to RRDTool myself but I've found the tutorials to be quite 
useful.

http://www.rrdtool.org/tutorial/

It will give you a good start.  Also the mailing list archive will hold 
many of the answers you're seeking (including the one to the question I 
just asked).

http://www.rrdtool.org/mailinglists.html

Justin




On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, José Antonio Calderón C. wrote:

> HI, anyone can say me where can i find how to configure rrdtool. I was
> installed it, but i don´t know what more i have to do.
> 
> 

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[rrd-users] Re: Help with running remstats

[gab.seun jones.ewulomi]

Hi Thomas,

Thank you very much for your reply it. My apologies I didnt mention I was 
running apache(every information counts). I had no problems compiling and 
installing the dependencies. I just couldnt seem to get my head round the 
configuration even when I used the -h switch for help.

im still getting the error while starting 'run-remstats'
(OUTPUT ERROR)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ ./run-remstats
Errors from ping-collector:

defined(@array) is deprecated at /var/remstats/bin/ping-collector line 75.
(Maybe you should just omit the defined()?)
updater: ERROR update for /var/remstats/data/bristol/ping.rrd failed with 
1047573602:10:10:13:110:930
Errors from port-collector:
defined(@array) is deprecated at /var/remstats/bin/port-collector line 75.
(Maybe you should just omit the defined()?
With the reply you posted
">Yeah.  You've got a more recent perl than was available when I built
>that version of remstats.  You can ignore them for now.  I'm going to do a 
>release within a week on sourceforge."

will downgrading to the perl version 5.005_03 solve the issue because I 
still cant start 'run-remstats' or will it be better to wait for your 
release within a week on sourceforge. Will you be releasing another version 
of remstats

thanks again

regards,
gab


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[rrd-users] Re: Help with running remstats

[Thomas Erskine]

At 09:36 2003-03-12, gab.seun jones.ewulomi wrote:
 >
 >Hi Thomas,
 >
 >1)My web-server is run as root? How do I change it otherwise

You *really* don't want to run your web-server as root.  Started by root, 
of course, so that it can bind to port 80.  Since you don't say which 
web-server you're using, I'm going to assume apache.  Edit the httpd.conf 
file and look for the "User" and "Group" lines.

 >2)I did as you suggested. I went into the directory where unpacked it
 >remstats and typed
 >"make owner"

Note.  This only fixes the permissions on files.  If you run any other 
remstats programs as root after that, you'll be right back where you 
started with files owned by root under the remstats tree.

 >3)Yes I did create a remstats user. I have also created a host config
 >file(by your direction) using "new-config".
 >which then created the pseudo-host _remstats_
 >4) I then tried to use the "new-ping-hosts" to create a host. Im I using the
 >"new-ping-hosts" in the correct way. can you help if possible.
 >
 >(output below)
 >./new-ping-hosts -d -f /var/remstats/etc/config/

That's incorrect.  The debug flag wants a number after it and Getopt::Std 
is trying to take "-f" as the level, which will be interpreted as 
0.  Almost all the remstats programs will accept a "-h" flag (for help) to 
give you the syntax of the command-line.

 >/var/remstats/etc/config/hostnames

Perhaps you meant that to be on the same line?  Doesn't matter.  What you 
typed is completely wrong.  New-ping-hosts (like all the new-xxx-hosts 
programs) wants to see a group-name to add the hosts to like:

 $ new-ping-hosts groupname hostfile

It will use "groupname" as the name of the group for the hosts to belong to 
and read hostnames from "hostfile".  Unless you've overridden it in 
configure, /var/remstats/etc/config is the default config dir and you don't 
need to specify it.  If you want to turn debugging on, use "-d 1", not "-d".

 >Argument "-f" isn't numeric in numeric gt (>) at
 >/var/remstats/lib/remstats.pl line 2715,  line 1.
 >DEBUG: unknown host aberdeen; attempting to continue
 >DEBUG: unknown host bristol; attempting to continue
 >
 >/var/remstats/etc/config/hostnames = the file that contains hostnames
 >this however created a host in the /var/remstats/etc/config/hosts directory
 >called aberdeen and bristol. But they didnt look right. I then edited with
 >the correct ip address, group etc
 >
 >5)I then tried to run "run-remstats" logging in as remstats user (su -
 >remstats). But I get the error below

Nope.  Always run "check-config" after changing the configuration.  If it 
won't accept it, nothing else will either.

 >Thank you very much for your reply.
 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./run-remstats
 >
 >Errors from ping-collector:
 >
 >defined(@array) is deprecated at /var/remstats/bin/ping-collector line 75.
 >(Maybe you should just omit the defined()?)

Yeah.  You've got a more recent perl than was available when I built that 
version of remstats.  You can ignore them for now.  I'm going to do a 
release within a week on sourceforge.

 >Errors from port-collector:
 >
 >defined(@array) is deprecated at /var/remstats/bin/port-collector line 75.
 >(Maybe you should just omit the defined()?)
 >
 >Errors from snmp-route-collector:
 >
 >defined(@array) is deprecated at /var/remstats/bin/snmp-route-collector line
 >64.
 >(Maybe you should just omit the defined()?)
 >6)The version of remstats Im running is remstats-1.00a4
 >I was using the latest version(remstats-1.0.9b) but decided to drop down to
 >the 1.00a4 version because I was getting to many errors.
 >
 >My apologies on the long reply. But your help or anyones help will be
 >greatly appreciated
 >regards
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >>From: Thomas Erskine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >>To: "gab.seun jones.ewulomi"
 >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,rrd-users@list.ee.ethz.ch
 >>Subject: [rrd-users] Re: Help with running remstats
 >>Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 05:57:21 -0500
 >>
 >>At 05:17 2003-03-11, gab.seun jones.ewulomi wrote:
 >>  >Hi,
 >>  >
 >>  >Can anyone help me. I cant seem to get remstats to work. Iv followed the
 >>  >documentation in and out and I still dont know what is wrong.
 >>  >
 >>  >Any help will be greatly appreciated
 >>  >
 >>  ><<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>  >[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]#  /usr/bin/run-remstats
 >>
 >>You're going to have problems running remstats as root

[rrd-users] Re: Help with running remstats

[gab.seun jones.ewulomi]

Hi Thomas,

1)My web-server is run as root? How do I change it otherwise

2)I did as you suggested. I went into the directory where unpacked it 
remstats and typed
"make owner"

3)Yes I did create a remstats user. I have also created a host config 
file(by your direction) using "new-config".
which then created the pseudo-host _remstats_
4) I then tried to use the "new-ping-hosts" to create a host. Im I using the 
"new-ping-hosts" in the correct way. can you help if possible.

(output below)
./new-ping-hosts -d -f /var/remstats/etc/config/ 
/var/remstats/etc/config/hostnames
Argument "-f" isn't numeric in numeric gt (>) at 
/var/remstats/lib/remstats.pl line 2715,  line 1.
DEBUG: unknown host aberdeen; attempting to continue
DEBUG: unknown host bristol; attempting to continue

/var/remstats/etc/config/hostnames = the file that contains hostnames

this however created a host in the /var/remstats/etc/config/hosts directory 
called aberdeen and bristol. But they didnt look right. I then edited with 
the correct ip address, group etc

5)I then tried to run "run-remstats" logging in as remstats user (su - 
remstats). But I get the error below

Thank you very much for your reply.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./run-remstats

Errors from ping-collector:

defined(@array) is deprecated at /var/remstats/bin/ping-collector line 75.
(Maybe you should just omit the defined()?)

Errors from port-collector:

defined(@array) is deprecated at /var/remstats/bin/port-collector line 75.
(Maybe you should just omit the defined()?)

Errors from snmp-route-collector:

defined(@array) is deprecated at /var/remstats/bin/snmp-route-collector line 
64.
(Maybe you should just omit the defined()?)
6)The version of remstats Im running is remstats-1.00a4
I was using the latest version(remstats-1.0.9b) but decided to drop down to 
the 1.00a4 version because I was getting to many errors.

My apologies on the long reply. But your help or anyones help will be 
greatly appreciated

regards





>From: Thomas Erskine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "gab.seun jones.ewulomi" 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,rrd-users@list.ee.ethz.ch
>Subject: [rrd-users] Re: Help with running remstats
>Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 05:57:21 -0500
>
>At 05:17 2003-03-11, gab.seun jones.ewulomi wrote:
>  >Hi,
>  >
>  >Can anyone help me. I cant seem to get remstats to work. Iv followed the
>  >documentation in and out and I still dont know what is wrong.
>  >
>  >Any help will be greatly appreciated
>  >
>  ><<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]#  /usr/bin/run-remstats
>
>You're going to have problems running remstats as root.  You don't run your
>web-server as root do you?  Go back to the directory where you unpacked it
>and , as root, type "make owner".  Then only run remstats programs as the
>remstats user.  I'm assuming that you did create one.
>
>  >run-remstats: ERROR: put_status: directory /var/remstats/data/_remstats_ 
>is
>  >missing; skipped
>
>This will happen if you don't have a host config file for the pseudo-host
>_remstats_.  Since "new-config" will create this, I don't know how you
>avoided getting it created?  How did you create your configuration
>directory?  Did you use "new-config /var/remstats/etc/config" or wherever
>you told it to expect configuration directories?  Which version of remstats
>are you installing from?
>

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[rrd-users] Re: Help with running remstats

[Thomas Erskine]

At 05:17 2003-03-11, gab.seun jones.ewulomi wrote:
 >Hi,
 >
 >Can anyone help me. I cant seem to get remstats to work. Iv followed the
 >documentation in and out and I still dont know what is wrong.
 >
 >Any help will be greatly appreciated
 >
 ><
 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]#  /usr/bin/run-remstats

You're going to have problems running remstats as root.  You don't run your 
web-server as root do you?  Go back to the directory where you unpacked it 
and , as root, type "make owner".  Then only run remstats programs as the 
remstats user.  I'm assuming that you did create one.

 >run-remstats: ERROR: put_status: directory /var/remstats/data/_remstats_ is
 >missing; skipped

This will happen if you don't have a host config file for the pseudo-host 
_remstats_.  Since "new-config" will create this, I don't know how you 
avoided getting it created?  How did you create your configuration 
directory?  Did you use "new-config /var/remstats/etc/config" or wherever 
you told it to expect configuration directories?  Which version of remstats 
are you installing from?

 >run-remstats: ERROR: put_status: directory /var/remstats/data/_remstats_ is
 >missing; skipped
 >run-remstats: ERROR: put_status: directory /var/remstats/data/_remstats_ is
 >missing; skipped
 >run-remstats: ERROR: put_status: directory /var/remstats/data/_remstats_ is
 >missing; skipped
 >
 >Errors from check-config:
 >
 >check-config: ERROR: read_config_hosts(hosts): Aberdeen: unknown line:
 >contact  Services
 >check-config: ERROR: read_config_hosts(hosts): www.theweathernetwork.com
 >wants to be in group Other Servers, but that's not listed in groups
 >check-config: ABORT: 2 errors found
 >
 >Errors from ping-collector:
 >
 >defined(@array) is deprecated at /var/remstats/bin/ping-collector line 75.
 >(Maybe you should just omit the defined()?)
 >ping-collector: ERROR: read_config_hosts(hosts): Aberdeen: unknown line:
 >contact Arup-ITS-Services
 >ping-collector: ERROR: read_config_hosts(hosts): www.theweathernetwork.com
 >wants to be in group Other Servers, but that's not listed in groups
 >ping-collector: ABORT: 2 errors found
 >updater: ERROR read_config_hosts(hosts): Aberdeen: unknown line: contact
 >Arup-ITS-Services
 >updater: ERROR read_config_hosts(hosts): www.theweathernetwork.com wants to
 >be in group Other Servers, but that's not listed in groups
 >updater: ABORT: 2 errors found
 >
 >Errors from port-collector:
 >
 >defined(@array) is deprecated at /var/remstats/bin/port-collector line 75.
 >(Maybe you should just omit the defined()?)
 >port-collector: ERROR: read_config_hosts(hosts): Aberdeen: unknown line:
 >contact Arup-ITS-Services
 >port-collector: ERROR: read_config_hosts(hosts): www.theweathernetwork.com
 >wants to be in group Other Servers, but that's not listed in groups
 >port-collector: ABORT: 2 errors found
 >updater: ERROR read_config_hosts(hosts): Aberdeen: unknown line: contact
 >ITS-Services
 >updater: ERROR read_config_hosts(hosts): www.theweathernetwork.com wants to
 >be in group Other Servers, but that's not listed in groups
 >updater: ABORT: 2 errors found
 >
 >Errors from snmp-route-collector:
 >
 >defined(@array) is deprecated at /var/remstats/bin/snmp-route-collector line
 >64.
 >(Maybe you should just omit the defined()?)
 >snmp-route-collector: ERROR: read_config_hosts(hosts): Aberdeen: unknown
 >line: contact   ITS-Services
 >snmp-route-collector: ERROR: read_config_hosts(hosts):
 >www.theweathernetwork.com wants to be in group Other Servers, but that's not
 >listed in groups
 >snmp-route-collector: ABORT: 2 errors found
 >
 >Errors from log-collector:
 >
 >defined(@array) is deprecated at /var/remstats/bin/log-collector line 68.
 >(Maybe you should just omit the defined()?)
 >log-collector: ERROR: read_config_hosts(hosts): Aberdeen: unknown line:
 >contact ITS-Services
 >log-collector: ERROR: read_config_hosts(hosts): www.theweathernetwork.com
 >wants to be in group Other Servers, but that's not listed in groups
 >log-collector: ABORT: 2 errors found
 >
 >Errors from unix-status-collector:
 >
 >defined(@array) is deprecated at /var/remstats/bin/unix-status-collector
 >line 66.
 >(Maybe you should just omit the defined()?)
 >unix-status-collector: ERROR: read_config_hosts(hosts): Aberdeen: unknown
 >line: contact  ITS-Services
 >unix-status-collector: ERROR: read_config_hosts(hosts):
 >www.theweathernetwork.com wants to be in group Other Servers, but that's not
 >listed in groups
 >unix-status-collector: ABORT: 2 errors found
 >
 >Errors from snmp-collector:
 >
 >defined(@array) is deprecated at /var/remstats/bin/snmp-collector line 68.
 >(Maybe you should just omit the defined()?)
 >snmp-collector: ERROR: read_config_hosts(hosts): Aberdeen: unknown line:
 >contact ITS-Services
 >snmp-collector: ERROR: read_config_hosts(hosts): www.theweathernetwork.com
 >wants to be in group Other Servers, but that's not l

[rrd-users] Re: HELP needed with "rrdtool tune"

[Alex van den Bogaerdt]

On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 03:01:48PM +0200, Braendle, Juergen wrote:

> I ran into a performance problem with my SUN monitoring a lot of things with
> MRTG and RRD

Hmm..  perl, probably.

> So now I want to change the update intervall for some data from the default
> 5 minutes to 10 minutes
> The main problem is, that I don't want to loose my old data collected for
> about one year.

Just update every 10 minutes.  You don't need to alter anything
except the heartbeat.  The heartbeat needs to be *at*least* 600.


> So my question is: What happens if I do something like this:
> 
> --> rrdtool tune filesys.rrd -h TOTAL:120 -h USED:120 -h AVAIL:120

Er,  that's two minutes ?!?

> How do I change the "step" value for this rrds or isnt't this nescessary?

If you would change the "step" value, you would change the amount
of time per PDP and thus the amount of time per CDP.  Don't.

HTH
Alex

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[rrd-users] Re: help - no graphs or html pages generated

[Gerhard Ecaroh Froehlich]

Hi "Ringler"!

You should have been reading manuals. After MRTG migrating to logformat RRDTool
MRTG does not graph anymore. This what is written in the docs. You have to write
your own Tool which uses "rrdtool graph" to generate Graphs and some cgi code
which will deliver it via Webserver and HTML. Or you look at the rrdtool
homepage, under rrdworld where you can find some prewritten software, which will
be able to feed and extract a rrd.

Bye, Ecaroh




"Ringler, Scott" wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have been running MRTG for about 2 weeks and think it great.  I am now
> trying to convert the graphing part to RRDTOOL with no luck.  Below is a
> sample on the cfg file that I am trying to use with rrdtool, what is
> happening is I am getting the .rrd log files in the work directory, but no
> graphs or html pages.  I can not seem to find any documentation that seems
> to help me.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Scott

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[rrd-users] Re: help - no graphs or html pages generated

[emily, amanda]

RRDtool does not create graphs, you have to find a front end to use 
to create the HTML and graphs.

For some of these scripts, you may wish to switch to Apache
and either mod_perl or fastcgi since with my experience
running these scripts on IIS has been extremely slow when
generating the images.

http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg-rrd.html

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Subject: [rrd-users] help - no graphs or html pages generated



Hi all,

I have been running MRTG for about 2 weeks and think it great.  I am now
trying to convert the graphing part to RRDTOOL with no luck.  Below is a
sample on the cfg file that I am trying to use with rrdtool, what is
happening is I am getting the .rrd log files in the work directory, but no
graphs or html pages.  I can not seem to find any documentation that seems
to help me.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Scott



PathAdd: c:\rrdtool\bin
LibAdd:  c:\rrdtool\perl-shared
LibAdd:  c:\mrtg-2.9.21\bin
LogFormat: rrdtool
WorkDir: c:\inetpub\wwwroot\mrtg\rrd-local
runasdaemon: yes


WithPeak[localhost.nic]: ymw
XSize[localhost.nic]: 300
Options[localhost.nic]: growright, bits
Target[localhost.nic]: 2:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MaxBytes[localhost.nic]: 125
Title[localhost.nic]: Intel 8255x-based Integrated Fast Ethernet
PageTop[localhost.nic]: Traffic Analysis for Intel 8255x-based
Integrated Fast Ethernet


System:Localhost
Maintainer:Scott
Interface:Intel 8255x-based Integrated Fast
Ethernet
IP:NJPTMRTG01 (10.10.10.1)
Max Speed:1250.0 kBytes/s
(ethernetCsmacd)


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[rrd-users] Re: Help rrd log

[Sawyer, David]

Check out http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg-rrd.html

HTH
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Subject: [rrd-users] Help rrd log



Hello rrdtool user, please.

I'm trying to install rrdtool for work with mrtg. 
In mrtg.cfg file, I added:

LogFormat: rrdtool
PathAdd: c:\apps\Perl\bin
LibAdd: c:\apps\Perl\bin



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[rrd-users] Re: Help wint customization

[Alex van den Bogaerdt]

Bryan Vest wrote:

> I can see that this line is pulling the numbers from somewhere:
> 
> "GPRINT:$mds1:MAX:Max $sout", "GPRINT:mpcout:MAX:(%2.0lf%%)",
> 
> Does ayone know how i can pull the data used by this GPRINT function to use
> in another area?

By far the easiest is to use another RRDtool command.  Use rrdtool graph
without actually creating an image.  Only use PRINT (not *G*PRINT) and
collect the output to use it as input for the next run.

> my $modemsinuse = qx(/usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.33/bin/rrdtool fetch $rrd
> MAX --start end-4minutes);

Close, you should use "graph", not "fetch".  You can then query
MAX, MIN, AVERAGE and LAST as you're used to do.

   rrdtool graph /dev/null
  DEF:
  ...
  CDEF:
  ...
no LINE, AREA, STACK or GPRINT
  ...
  PRINT:ds0:MAX:%10.2lf

Now you can use $modemsinuse in the next rrdtool command, spanning
the same time range yet actually creating the graph.

If you like you can also have a look at the 1.1.x version.  This is
alpha code but I think VDEF is suitable to solve your problem.
If you want to test it and comment on it that would be great.

HTH
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[rrd-users] Re: HELP: Adding 2 vaues with same timestamp

[Iain Buchanan]

It usually doesn't make sense to update a record with two different values
for the same time stamp.  For example, there can't be a total of 2 as well
as a total of 5 people in a room at one time.  If you want to add two
records for a graph however, you can use CDEF's.  Is this what you want to
do?

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>
> Hi All,
>
> I am using PERL apis for adding data to RRD file.
> I want to add 2 different values with same timestamp.
> Is it possible?
> Let say i inserted one value using statement
> rrdtool update test.rrd 920806500:12383
> Now i want to update this record so i executed another statement
>
> rrdtool update test.rrd 920806500:1000
>
> However i got an error as new statement must have greater timestamp.
>
> Can you help me to solve this problem.
> I need addition of these 2 records for corresponding record
>
> thx,
> shrenik
>
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[rrd-users] Re: Help on types of data sources

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Hola Anton,

Sunday, March 31, 2002, 11:32:45 PM, escribió:


AK> Hello Guys

AK> Im using rrdtool and cacti as frontend.

AK> I have a problem creating 2 data sources and graphs..

Try creating a LAST source, not AVERAGE or GAUGE.


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[rrd-users] Re: Help with consolidation functions.

[Alex van den Bogaerdt]

Ripul Gupta wrote:

>  The rra AVERAGE rule works fine.
>  However , I have a problem with the MAX,MIN and LAST
>  rules. Here is my doubt .
> 
>  "In the line RRA:MAX:0.5:1:600"
> 
>  What does the number 600 signify. I looked into the
>  dump file under the 5 minute entries block and i  
>  found 600 rows under MAX which had same  
>  values as that of the rows under AVERAGE.
>  But my requirement is that I want one maximum value
>  ie maximum of all 5 minute averages.

The MAX consolidation function works exactly like the AVERAGE
CF with of course the exception that each interval contains the
maximum of the values seen *during that interval*.

You don't expect the AVERAGE to return one number, why would you
expect MAX to do so?

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[rrd-users] Re: help

[Alex van den Bogaerdt]

Collins, Eric S. wrote:
> 
> Hmm,
>   4 minutes/pixel? Not sure how that is derived.

It doesn't help if you only have RRAs with 1 PDP per CDP, if you
graph 1600 minutes then you will *have to* combine four PDPs into
one pixel.  Yes, this means averaging.  Yes, this means you cannot
have exact numbers as fetched from the source.  This is how RRDtool
works.  This is how rates work.  Everything is computed into
an x per second value.

You may be able to produce something that looks like what you want.
This would involve LAST as a consolidation function.  However I think
this will show up as 35 if a range of "23 56 10 35" is consolidated.
(I'm not sure.  Can anybody who knows for sure tell please?)

The closest you can get is to enter the values at suitable times.
This means cheating: in stead of the real time you tell RRDtool
to store it at time-(time modulo 60).  Example: if now == 997745684
then you store the sample at 997745684 - 44 = 997745640.

The numbers will be whole numbers in the RRA that has 1 PDP per CDP.
When averaged into the RRA with 4 PDPs per CPD, you will end up with
numbers that are x.25, x.50 or x.75, perhaps you want to round those
using RPN instructions in a CDEF.  This is not what you should want.

You could also think of a perminute display, a perhour display, a
perday display etcetera.  All numbers end up in the database as
rates (x per second) and can thus be multiplied by a number of seconds.
Alternative to this suggestion: if your database contains GAUGE entries
of number of users per minute, you can multiply by 60 to get the number
of users per hour.

cheers.
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[rrd-users] Re: help

[Alex van den Bogaerdt]

Collins, Eric S. wrote:

>   I want to store just over 1 years worth of data in my rrds. I'm
> quite a bit off on the number of values to store. I want to be able to
> accurately graph 1 hour, 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, 1 year. 
> 
> Here's what I have..

> rrdtool create /usr/local/rrdwork/rrds/$1.rrd --step 60 \

step 60 ---> each PDP is 60 seconds large.  A PDP is the
normalized (resampled) interval that RRDtool uses.

> DS:ld_avg:GAUGE:120:-3:75 \

at least every 120 seconds expect ld_avg, it should fall in the
range of -3 to 75 (both inclusive)

> DS:users:GAUGE:120:0:130  \etcetera
> DS:tout:GAUGE:120:0:300  \
> DS:tout2:GAUGE:120:0:15000 \
> RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:1200  \

store 1200 CDPs of 1 PDP each.  Each PDP is 60 seconds so each CDP
in this RRA is 60 seconds.  The total amount is 1200*60 seconds is
72000 seconds is 20 hours
   
> RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:5:700  \

store 700 CDPs of 5 PDPs each.  Each PDP is 60 seconds so each CDP
in this RRA is 300 seconds (5 minutes).  The total amount is 700*300
seconds is 21 seconds is 58 hours 20 minutes.

> RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:15:730 \
store 730 CDPs of 15 PDPs each.  Each PDP is 60 seconds so each CDP
in this RRA is 900 seconds (15 minutes).  The total amount is 730*900
seconds is 657000 seconds is 182 hours 30 minutes.

etcetera.


If you want to graph 1 hour, 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, 1 year, then you
do the following calculations:

Each PDP is 60 seconds (1 minute) and this is the base of everything
else.  Change this and you need to change the calculations below
accordingly.

The best approach is to work from a standard image size (or rather:
canvas size) of 400 pixels.  Each pixel should represent a whole
number of PDPs.  (or, a whole number of pixels should match one PDP).

If you want to show an hour, show more than one hour.  1h20m is 80
minutes is 5 pixels per PDP.  You need an RRA of at least 80 CDPs
and each CDP is 1 PDP:

RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:80   (you probably want to have a few more rows).

One day or more:  1440 minutes or more.  1600 minutes nicely fits
on 400 pixels.  Each pixel represents 4 PDPs so each CDP should be
4 PDPs.  You need 400 of such CDPs:

RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:4:400  (again: a few more rows doesn't hurt)

(if you'd work with 3 PDPs per CDP, you'd get 400 pixels * 3 PDPs
per CDP is 1200 PDPs is 1200 minutes is less than one day).

Same calculations for week,month and year.  Same numbers for maximum,
minimum and average.

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[rrd-users] Re: Help needed on rrdtool create and rrdtool upd ate

[Chang-Ping Hsiao]

> > Meanwhile, I am not clear about whether this includes the 
> end points of the
> > interval if they are primary data points in an RRD.
>
> There are no primary data points in an RRD, only intervals.  

Well, according to the document of "RRD CREATE", there really is
"something" called primary data point as in the paragraph

"When data is entered into an RRD, it is first fit into time slots of the
length defined with the -s option becoming a primary data point."

although I still don't understand what it is.  :-)

> The interval
> labeled as 99417600 (if heartbeat is 3600) is actually the time period
> from 99417600-99421199.  Any data that comes in during that 
> time is considered as representing the time from the last sample to the
time of 
> the sample.
> If there is an interval of heartbeat seconds that does not 
> contain at least two samples, that interval is treated as NaN (unknown).

Why should there be "two" data in an interval?  If The samples only
present once an hour, there will be only one datum in 3600 seconds.

> > Serge was right on the data I tried to updated, 7200 is 
> greater than 3600,
> > but I would think RRDTool can be smart enough to determine 
> 99417900 is
> > unknown while 994176000 is 3 and 994183200 is 1, instead of thinking
> > everything in the interval including the end points are unknown.
> > 
> Nope.  RRDTool is smarter than that, and it thinks that it 
> doesn't have data for an interval if it doesn't have more than one sample
in 
> the interval.

This is not smart to me.  Why can it not just take what it's fed
with?

> Why not use a small step and a large heartbeat?  The only 
> thing the heartbeat controls is how much time can elapse between samples
without 
> declaring the entire period unknown.  Literally, heartbeat should
represent 
> your MAXIMUM acceptable time between samples, possibly plus some margin.

The thing is, the MAXIMUM is unknown!!  Even if I make the heartbeat
hugely big, the timestamps that have no data would come up as something
inaccurate with the smaller step.

Chang-Ping

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[rrd-users] Re: Help needed on rrdtool create and rrdtool update

[Chang-Ping Hsiao]

Exactly!

The data come in at an unknown timing.  That is why I had them updated at
"random" time and different interval.  I read about the comparison between
heartbeat and step, and didn't seem to find a way around it.  In the
document  written by Don Baarda, it says, 

".If the interval between samples is longer than "heartbeat", the entire
interval is considered "unknown"..."

Meanwhile, I am not clear about whether this includes the end points of the
interval if they are primary data points in an RRD.

Serge was right on the data I tried to updated, 7200 is greater than 3600,
but I would think RRDTool can be smart enough to determine 99417900 is
unknown while 994176000 is 3 and 994183200 is 1, instead of thinking
everything in the interval including the end points are unknown.

Due to the nature of the data, if RRDTool cannot help, maybe I will need to
artificially put a "0" for every missing heartbeat.  This isn't hard but is
definitely making my job more trivial.

Thanks, folks!

Chang-Ping

> 994176000:3 994183200:1 994190400:1 994194000:4 994197600:4 994201200:5 \
> 994204800:4 994212000:8 994215600:1 994219200:1 994255200:1 994258800:2 \
> 994262400:4 994266000:2 994269600:3 994273200:2 \

> missing-> 994176000: NaN
>  994179600: NaN
> missing->  994183200: NaN
>  994186800: NaN
> missing-> 994190400: NaN
>  994194000: 4.00e+00
>  994197600: 4.00e+00
>  994201200: 5.00e+00
>  994204800: 4.00e+00
>  994208400: NaN
> missing->  994212000: NaN
>  994215600: 1.00e+00
>  994219200: 1.00e+00
>  994222800: NaN
>  994226400: NaN
>  99423: NaN
>  994233600: NaN
>  994237200: NaN
>  994240800: NaN
>  994244400: NaN
>  994248000: NaN
>  994251600: NaN
> missing->  994255200: NaN
>  994258800: 2.00e+00

> Hmm, what I do see is that you have a heartbeat of 3600 secs. Your
> updates (at least the first two ones, didn't check the other ones) on
> the other hand are made with a 7200 sec interval. This is 
> well over the
> heartbeat threshold, so rrdtool will take the value for a NaN.

> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Snell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 6:48 PM
> To: Chang-Ping Hsiao; Rrd-User (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: [rrd-users] Help needed on rrdtool create and rrdtool
> update
> 
> 
> 
> I took a quick glance at your rrdupdate and it looks like you are 
> occasionally updating at an interval different from your --step.
> 
> >the RRDs after update.  Could anyone help?  I can't seem to 
> find where the
> >problem is.  Did I make some mistakes in "rrdtool create", "rrdtool
> >update", or "rrdtool fetch"?
> 

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[rrd-users] Re: Help needed on rrdtool create and rrdtool update

[Serge Maandag]

Hmm, what I do see is that you have a heartbeat of 3600 secs. Your
updates (at least the first two ones, didn't check the other ones) on
the other hand are made with a 7200 sec interval. This is well over the
heartbeat threshold, so rrdtool will take the value for a NaN.

Read up on the heartbeat and the step @
http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/manual/rrdcreate.html

Serge.


/usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.28/bin/rrdtool create
<-->
--step 3600 \
DS:Flipper_Drops:GAUGE:3600:0:U \
RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:3600
<-->

/usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.28/bin/rrdtool update
<-->
994176000:3 994183200:1 994190400:1 994194000:4 994197600:4 994201200:5
994204800:4 994212000:8 \
<-->

/usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.28/bin/rrdtool fetch
<-->
missing-> 994176000: NaN
 994179600: NaN
missing->  994183200: NaN
<-->

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[rrd-users] Re: Help needed on rrdtool create and rrdtool update

[Chris Snell]

I took a quick glance at your rrdupdate and it looks like you are 
occasionally updating at an interval different from your --step.

>the RRDs after update.  Could anyone help?  I can't seem to find where the
>problem is.  Did I make some mistakes in "rrdtool create", "rrdtool
>update", or "rrdtool fetch"?


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[rrd-users] Re: Help creating database

[BAARDA, Don]

G'day,

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> To:   rrd-users@list.ee.ethz.ch
> Subject:      [rrd-users] Re: Help creating database
> 
[...]
> The 600 is the value for 'heartbeat'. From rrdcreate(1):
> 
>heartbeat defines the maximum number of
>seconds that may pass between two updates of
>this data source before the value of the data
>source is assumed to be *UNKNOWN*.
> 
> Make heartbeat allways bigger than step, maybe 4000 in this case.
> 
> (Maybe rrdtool shouldn't accept heartbeat settings lower than step?)
> 
There are some admittedly very strange reasons why having a
heartbeat less than step _might_ be desirable. RRD will correctly accumulate
multiple samples into one PDP if you want it to, so you can force it to
require multiple samples per PDP if you want. For example, with a heartbeat
1/4 the size of step and xff of 0.5, you typically want 4 samples per PDP,
but as long as at least half  the PDP interval (typically at least two
samples) is not "unknown", the PDP will not be marked "unknown". 

However, this sort of "oversampling" is of dubious value. It can be
used to get more accurate PDP's, but it is probably better to just use a
smaller step and accumulate to an RRA. I wouldn't like rrd to reject a
heartbeat less than step, but outputting a warning during "create" wouldn't
hurt (apart from bloat maybe).

> Rainer
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[rrd-users] Re: Help creating database

[Frank Pineau]

On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 12:48:24 +0100, a data storm erupted from 

>> rrdtool create test.rrd \
>>   --step 3600 \
>>   DS:field1:GAUGE:600:U:U \
>
>The 600 is the value for 'heartbeat'. From rrdcreate(1):
>
>   heartbeat defines the maximum number of
>   seconds that may pass between two updates of
>   this data source before the value of the data
>   source is assumed to be *UNKNOWN*.
>
>Make heartbeat allways bigger than step, maybe 4000 in this case.


I've had a number of people point this out to me, always quoting the same part
of the manual :)  

As it turns out, I *was* using heartbeats of 6000 at one point but was having
the same problem.  I've since changed it to 8000 and it seems to be working as
advertised now.  Thanks to everyone who smacked me upside the head.  I
apparently needed it. :)

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[rrd-users] Re: Help creating database

[Rainer Bawidamann]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Pineau) writes:
> 
> Ok, I've been beating my head against this for three freaking days and It's 
> just
> not making any sense.  I want a database that gets five numbers once per hour,
> and keeps min, max, avg, and last for 12.5 days.  The problem is, no matter 
> how
> I make the databse, I can't seem to get anything other than NAN's.  Here's my
> latest try:
> 
> rrdtool create test.rrd \
>   --step 3600 \
>   DS:field1:GAUGE:600:U:U \

The 600 is the value for 'heartbeat'. From rrdcreate(1):

   heartbeat defines the maximum number of
   seconds that may pass between two updates of
   this data source before the value of the data
   source is assumed to be *UNKNOWN*.

Make heartbeat allways bigger than step, maybe 4000 in this case.

(Maybe rrdtool shouldn't accept heartbeat settings lower than step?)

Rainer

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[rrd-users] Re: Help required

[Bjorn Djupvik]

"rrdtool dump" is the command you want, I use it to transfer a .rrd between 
different architechtures but you can use it to
get an ASCII file out...to see the schema for the rrd you might want to look at 
the "rrdtool info" command...

Cheers

Bjorn


Tony James wrote:

> Question: The .rrd files that I have, Is there any way
> I can translate these into ascii files. I am basically
> trying to see what data these files have.
> 
> Also if there is a tool to look into the rrd database
> to see the schema and the data etc. Please let me
> know.

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[rrd-users] Re: Help! Resize difficulties.

[JTuite]

we decided that we wanted the 5minave area to be huge (6 months) so that we
could search back to a specific time to get exact readings, not averages.

The only way to do that without losing current data was to resize it. I
tried just resizing to the final size but it graphed a large gap where the
new empty records were.

I will modify the script to check the size before it resizes so it won't
grow after the 6 month mark.

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On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 11:52:54AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I resize RRA 0 of several RRDs every 5 minutes.
> I run this script with cron.

  I'm curious - why would you want to do this?  What is the advantage
of constantly changing the RRA size, vs. figuring out the "right" size
you would want and making it that size to start with?

  Just wondering,
  -- Clifton

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[rrd-users] Re: Help! Resize difficulties.

[Clifton Royston]

On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 11:52:54AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I resize RRA 0 of several RRDs every 5 minutes.
> I run this script with cron.

  I'm curious - why would you want to do this?  What is the advantage
of constantly changing the RRA size, vs. figuring out the "right" size
you would want and making it that size to start with?

  Just wondering,
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[rrd-users] Re: Help! Resize difficulties.

[JTuite]

I've never had a problem. I've been doing it for about 4 months.

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Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 17:58
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Subject: [rrd-users] Re: Help! Resize difficulties.



Frank Swasey wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > rm $rrdfile
> > cp resize.rrd $rrdfile
> > rm resize.rrd
> 
> Why did you do those two commands instead of 
>   mv resize.rrd $rrdfile

Please be aware that a new RRD file has been created for a purpose.
It should be checked and, if the file is OK, be moved/copied/whatever
over the original RRD.

This has been discussed way back in the past on the mail list.  Also,
the documentation has been adjusted, it will be included in the next 
release of RRDtool.

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[rrd-users] Re: Help! Resize difficulties.

[Alex van den Bogaerdt]

Frank Swasey wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > rm $rrdfile
> > cp resize.rrd $rrdfile
> > rm resize.rrd
> 
> Why did you do those two commands instead of 
>   mv resize.rrd $rrdfile

Please be aware that a new RRD file has been created for a purpose.
It should be checked and, if the file is OK, be moved/copied/whatever
over the original RRD.

This has been discussed way back in the past on the mail list.  Also,
the documentation has been adjusted, it will be included in the next 
release of RRDtool.

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[rrd-users] Re: Help! Resize difficulties.

[Frank Swasey]

On Fri, 8 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> #!/bin/bash
>   for rrdfile in $1/*.rrd ; do
>   echo Before
>   ls $rrdfile -s
>   rrdtool resize $rrdfile $2 $3 $4
>   rm $rrdfile

>   cp resize.rrd $rrdfile
>   rm resize.rrd

Why did you do those two commands instead of 
mv resize.rrd $rrdfile

>   echo After
>   ls $rrdfile -s
>   echo 
>   done


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[rrd-users] Re: Help! Resize difficulties.

[JTuite]

I resize RRA 0 of several RRDs every 5 minutes.
I run this script with cron. It resizes every rrd in a directory.
To take care of several directories with one cron job, I actually run a
script that calls this script several times but the directory is different
each time.

This script resizes, then deletes the original, then copies the resize.rrd
to the originals name. It also lists the sizes before and after.

the command line is: 
resize-rrd ./cricket-data/path-to-rrd-files 0 GROW 1
the params are Directory, RRA, GROW/SHRINK, Records

here's the script:
#!/bin/bash
for rrdfile in $1/*.rrd ; do
echo Before
ls $rrdfile -s
rrdtool resize $rrdfile $2 $3 $4
rm $rrdfile
cp resize.rrd $rrdfile
rm resize.rrd
echo After
ls $rrdfile -s
echo 
done

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Subject: [rrd-users] Re: Help! Resize difficulties.



Mike Fisher wrote:

>
> I ran into this earlier in the week.  The resize does not modify the
> existing RRD file, it creates a new one in the current directory called
> resize.rrd with the new size and the old data.  Just move this over your
> old on and you should be ok.  This should probably be dealt with in the
> manual.
>
> Mike

Thank you Mike, that was the problem; and it seems to be working at this
point. Now it's just a matter of waiting while my script updates all of the
rrds.

I'm not sure if you'd happen to know -- but, is there a convenient way to
merge a backup of the the overwritten data with the current database?
There is no overlapping between the two, and unfortunately there is a
missing gap of about 2 weeks, but there's nothing to be done about that now.

Thanks again Mike,

..Sean.



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[rrd-users] Re: Help! Resize difficulties.

[Sean R McNamara]

Mike Fisher wrote:

>
> I ran into this earlier in the week.  The resize does not modify the
> existing RRD file, it creates a new one in the current directory called
> resize.rrd with the new size and the old data.  Just move this over your
> old on and you should be ok.  This should probably be dealt with in the
> manual.
>
> Mike

Thank you Mike, that was the problem; and it seems to be working at this
point. Now it's just a matter of waiting while my script updates all of the
rrds.

I'm not sure if you'd happen to know -- but, is there a convenient way to
merge a backup of the the overwritten data with the current database?
There is no overlapping between the two, and unfortunately there is a
missing gap of about 2 weeks, but there's nothing to be done about that now.

Thanks again Mike,

..Sean.



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[rrd-users] Re: HELP: Compile on HP-UX 10.20

[Gellatly, Laurie]

I compile under HPUX 10.20.
Got an idea that the perl-? fails but as I'm not interested in that
I ignore it. Can send you binaries if you like?

...Laurie :{)

-Original Message-
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To: RRD Users Mailing List
Subject: [rrd-users] HELP: Compile on HP-UX 10.20



After searching the mail list archives, it does not appear that anyone has
been able to compile RRDtool under HP-UX 10.20 (or 11.00) with much success.
I have been hacking at it for about a week now with little success.  I have
tried all the gcc stuff (plus HP Softbench with ANSI C compiler).  No
combination seems to work.

Has anyone had success compiling under HP-UX?

Thanks in advance,

--Nathan

Nathan Harris
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[rrd-users] Re: HELP: Compile on HP-UX 10.20

[Nathan Harris]

After some tinkering, I noticed that commenting out the line

OTHERLDFLAGS = -L../src/.libs -lrrd_private -lm

in the perl-shared Makefile seems to cause the build to complete without
errors.  I would think the linker should be returning errors for unresolved
stuff contained in the rrd_private library.  The
../blib/arch/auto/RRDs/RRDs.sl file is present after the make.  Any ideas?

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>
> Hello guys,
>
> I also still having problems with rrdtool under HP-UX but I have not
always
> the time to work on it.
> See my different mails in the mailing list.
>
> I was able to compile rrdtool with static linkingtype.  (see link below).
>
> http://www.ee.ethz.ch/~slist/rrd-users/msg01943.html
>
> During the make install I had the following error:
>
> install:  perl-shared/blib/arch/auto/RRDs/RRDs.bs does not exist
> *** Error exit code 1
>
> and
>
> install:  perl-shared/blib/arch/auto/RRDs/RRDs.sl does not exist
> *** Error exit code 1
>
> These two files I received from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and copied
> those
> into the right place.Thanks Frederic.
>
> After the compiling process I did a make site-perl-install so RRDTOOL was
> able to find
> all libraries.
>
> This does not mean that RRDTOOL is working now. Executing the binary
rrdtool
> is resulting now in a coredump (I use rddtool in conjunction with Big
> Brother http://bb4.com).
>
> /usr/local/bb14h/ext/larrd/la-graph.sh[88]: 19207 Memory fault(coredump)
> /usr/local/bb14h/ext/larrd/la-graph.sh[54]: 19277 Memory fault(coredump)
> /usr/local/bb14h/ext/larrd/la-graph.sh[66]: 19360 Memory fault(coredump)
>
>
> There must be someone who was able to compile RRDtool under HP-UX.
(Frederic
> ;-)
> I think there is a need for a special procedure to follow for getting
> RRDtool compiled on HP-UX.
>
>
> Hoping it will work on a day I'm waiting for the guru's answer.
>
> Yves...



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[rrd-users] Re: HELP: Compile on HP-UX 10.20

[yves . wouters]

Hello guys,

I also still having problems with rrdtool under HP-UX but I have not always 
the time to work on it.
See my different mails in the mailing list.

I was able to compile rrdtool with static linkingtype.  (see link below).

http://www.ee.ethz.ch/~slist/rrd-users/msg01943.html

During the make install I had the following error:

install:  perl-shared/blib/arch/auto/RRDs/RRDs.bs does not exist
*** Error exit code 1

and 

install:  perl-shared/blib/arch/auto/RRDs/RRDs.sl does not exist
*** Error exit code 1

These two files I received from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and copied
those
into the right place.Thanks Frederic.

After the compiling process I did a make site-perl-install so RRDTOOL was
able to find 
all libraries.

This does not mean that RRDTOOL is working now. Executing the binary rrdtool
is resulting now in a coredump (I use rddtool in conjunction with Big
Brother http://bb4.com).

/usr/local/bb14h/ext/larrd/la-graph.sh[88]: 19207 Memory fault(coredump)
/usr/local/bb14h/ext/larrd/la-graph.sh[54]: 19277 Memory fault(coredump)
/usr/local/bb14h/ext/larrd/la-graph.sh[66]: 19360 Memory fault(coredump)


There must be someone who was able to compile RRDtool under HP-UX. (Frederic
;-) 
I think there is a need for a special procedure to follow for getting
RRDtool compiled on HP-UX.


Hoping it will work on a day I'm waiting for the guru's answer.

Yves...



Nice to hear that there is hope...  I'm trying to build from the latest
rrdtool-1.0.28 tar ball.

I'm using the following packages under HP-UX 10.20 (from the HP porting
center):

binutils-2.9.1-sd-10.20.depot.gz
gcc-2.95.2-sd-10.20.depot.gz
perl-5.6.0-sd-10.20.depot.gz
make-3.79-sd.10.20.depot.gz
   -- plus --
autoconfig-2.13-sd-10.20.depot.gz
gzip-1.2.4a-sd-10.20.depot.gz
m4-1.4-sd-10.20.depot.gz

After the swinstalls, I modified my /etc/PATH to include all the /opt/*/bin
directories of the packages above.  I have installed these packages on a
virgin machine (no Softbench or other HP compilers installed) and still no
success.

Did you use the HP porting center's packages?  Or did you build
gcc/binutils/perl from scratch?  Am I missing something I need to get the
compile working?

How did you configure?  I have tried a few ways...

sh ./configure --prefix=/opt/rrdtool-1.0.28
--and--
sh ./configure --prefix=/opt/rrdtool-1.0.28 --enable-shared

With the above configurations, I get problems when building the perl-shared
subdirectory.  The error is that it cannot find the rrd_private library
(which does appear to be at ../src/.libs).  The '--enable-shared' flag does
not seem to make a difference in getting this error.  Specifically, from the
perl-shared directory, I run a gmake and get the following:

LD_RUN_PATH="" ld -o blib/arch/auto/RRDs/RRDs.sl -b -s -a shared
RRDs.o -L../src/.libs/ -lrrd_private -lm
ld: Can't find library for -lrrd_private
gmake: *** [blib/arch/auto/RRDs/RRDs.sl] Error 1

Is there something obviously wrong here that I'm missing?

--Nathan

Nathan Harris
P-Com, Inc.

- Original Message -
From: "Kurt Andersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [rrd-users] HELP: Compile on HP-UX 10.20


> "Nathan Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > After searching the mail list archives, it does not appear
> > that anyone has been able to compile RRDtool under HP-UX
> > 10.20 (or 11.00) with much success.  I have been hacking at
> > it for about a week now with little success.  I have tried
> > all the gcc stuff (plus HP Softbench with ANSI C compiler).
> > No combination seems to work.
> >
> > Has anyone had success compiling under HP-UX?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
>
> I had no particular problem building it with gcc 2.95.2 on either
> 10.20 or 11.x.  I build the 1.0.26 straight out of the tgz-box.
>
> --Kurt
>
>
> --
> Kurt Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Agilent Technologies Postmaster
> Global Messaging Team, Agilent Technologies
> (509) 921-3792
>


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[rrd-users] Re: HELP: Compile on HP-UX 10.20

[Nathan Harris]

Nice to hear that there is hope...  I'm trying to build from the latest
rrdtool-1.0.28 tar ball.

I'm using the following packages under HP-UX 10.20 (from the HP porting
center):

binutils-2.9.1-sd-10.20.depot.gz
gcc-2.95.2-sd-10.20.depot.gz
perl-5.6.0-sd-10.20.depot.gz
make-3.79-sd.10.20.depot.gz
   -- plus --
autoconfig-2.13-sd-10.20.depot.gz
gzip-1.2.4a-sd-10.20.depot.gz
m4-1.4-sd-10.20.depot.gz

After the swinstalls, I modified my /etc/PATH to include all the /opt/*/bin
directories of the packages above.  I have installed these packages on a
virgin machine (no Softbench or other HP compilers installed) and still no
success.

Did you use the HP porting center's packages?  Or did you build
gcc/binutils/perl from scratch?  Am I missing something I need to get the
compile working?

How did you configure?  I have tried a few ways...

sh ./configure --prefix=/opt/rrdtool-1.0.28
--and--
sh ./configure --prefix=/opt/rrdtool-1.0.28 --enable-shared

With the above configurations, I get problems when building the perl-shared
subdirectory.  The error is that it cannot find the rrd_private library
(which does appear to be at ../src/.libs).  The '--enable-shared' flag does
not seem to make a difference in getting this error.  Specifically, from the
perl-shared directory, I run a gmake and get the following:

LD_RUN_PATH="" ld -o blib/arch/auto/RRDs/RRDs.sl -b -s -a shared
RRDs.o -L../src/.libs/ -lrrd_private -lm
ld: Can't find library for -lrrd_private
gmake: *** [blib/arch/auto/RRDs/RRDs.sl] Error 1

Is there something obviously wrong here that I'm missing?

--Nathan

Nathan Harris
P-Com, Inc.

- Original Message -
From: "Kurt Andersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [rrd-users] HELP: Compile on HP-UX 10.20


> "Nathan Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > After searching the mail list archives, it does not appear
> > that anyone has been able to compile RRDtool under HP-UX
> > 10.20 (or 11.00) with much success.  I have been hacking at
> > it for about a week now with little success.  I have tried
> > all the gcc stuff (plus HP Softbench with ANSI C compiler).
> > No combination seems to work.
> >
> > Has anyone had success compiling under HP-UX?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
>
> I had no particular problem building it with gcc 2.95.2 on either
> 10.20 or 11.x.  I build the 1.0.26 straight out of the tgz-box.
>
> --Kurt
>
>
> --
> Kurt Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Agilent Technologies Postmaster
> Global Messaging Team, Agilent Technologies
> (509) 921-3792
>


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[rrd-users] Re: HELP: Compile on HP-UX 10.20

[Nathan Harris]

Nice to hear that there is hope...  I'm trying to build from the latest
rrdtool-1.0.28 tar ball.

I'm using the following packages under HP-UX 10.20 (from the HP porting
center):

binutils-2.9.1-sd-10.20.depot.gz
gcc-2.95.2-sd-10.20.depot.gz
perl-5.6.0-sd-10.20.depot.gz
make-3.79-sd.10.20.depot.gz
   -- plus --
autoconfig-2.13-sd-10.20.depot.gz
gzip-1.2.4a-sd-10.20.depot.gz
m4-1.4-sd-10.20.depot.gz

After the swinstalls, I modified my /etc/PATH to include all the /opt/*/bin
directories of the packages above.  I have installed these packages on a
virgin machine (no Softbench or other HP compilers installed) and still no
success.

Did you use the HP porting center's packages?  Or did you build
gcc/binutils/perl from scratch?  Am I missing something I need to get the
compile working?

How did you configure?  I have tried a few ways...

sh ./configure --prefix=/opt/rrdtool-1.0.28
--and--
sh ./configure --prefix=/opt/rrdtool-1.0.28 --enable-shared

With the above configurations, I get problems when building the perl-shared
subdirectory.  The error is that it cannot find the rrd_private library
(which does appear to be at ../src/.libs).  The '--enable-shared' flag does
not seem to make a difference in getting this error.  Specifically, from the
perl-shared directory, I run a gmake and get the following:

LD_RUN_PATH="" ld -o blib/arch/auto/RRDs/RRDs.sl -b -s -a shared
RRDs.o -L../src/.libs/ -lrrd_private -lm
ld: Can't find library for -lrrd_private
gmake: *** [blib/arch/auto/RRDs/RRDs.sl] Error 1

Is there something obviously wrong here that I'm missing?

--Nathan

Nathan Harris
P-Com, Inc.

- Original Message -
From: "Kurt Andersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [rrd-users] HELP: Compile on HP-UX 10.20


> "Nathan Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > After searching the mail list archives, it does not appear
> > that anyone has been able to compile RRDtool under HP-UX
> > 10.20 (or 11.00) with much success.  I have been hacking at
> > it for about a week now with little success.  I have tried
> > all the gcc stuff (plus HP Softbench with ANSI C compiler).
> > No combination seems to work.
> >
> > Has anyone had success compiling under HP-UX?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
>
> I had no particular problem building it with gcc 2.95.2 on either
> 10.20 or 11.x.  I build the 1.0.26 straight out of the tgz-box.
>
> --Kurt
>
>
> --
> Kurt Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Agilent Technologies Postmaster
> Global Messaging Team, Agilent Technologies
> (509) 921-3792
>


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[rrd-users] Re: HELP: Compile on HP-UX 10.20

[Nathan Harris]

Nice to hear that there is hope...  I'm trying to build from the latest
rrdtool-1.0.28 tar ball.

I'm using the following packages under HP-UX 10.20 (from the HP porting
center):

binutils-2.9.1-sd-10.20.depot.gz
gcc-2.95.2-sd-10.20.depot.gz
perl-5.6.0-sd-10.20.depot.gz
make-3.79-sd.10.20.depot.gz
   -- plus --
autoconfig-2.13-sd-10.20.depot.gz
gzip-1.2.4a-sd-10.20.depot.gz
m4-1.4-sd-10.20.depot.gz

After the swinstalls, I modified my /etc/PATH to include all the /opt/*/bin
directories of the packages above.  I have installed these packages on a
virgin machine (no Softbench or other HP compilers installed) and still no
success.

Did you use the HP porting center's packages?  Or did you build
gcc/binutils/perl from scratch?  Am I missing something I need to get the
compile working?

How did you configure?  I have tried a few ways...

sh ./configure --prefix=/opt/rrdtool-1.0.28
--and--
sh ./configure --prefix=/opt/rrdtool-1.0.28 --enable-shared

With the above configurations, I get problems when building the perl-shared
subdirectory.  The error is that it cannot find the rrd_private library
(which does appear to be at ../src/.libs).  The '--enable-shared' flag does
not seem to make a difference in getting this error.  Specifically, from the
perl-shared directory, I run a gmake and get the following:

LD_RUN_PATH="" ld -o blib/arch/auto/RRDs/RRDs.sl -b -s -a shared
RRDs.o -L../src/.libs/ -lrrd_private -lm
ld: Can't find library for -lrrd_private
gmake: *** [blib/arch/auto/RRDs/RRDs.sl] Error 1

Is there something obviously wrong here that I'm missing?

--Nathan

Nathan Harris
P-Com, Inc.

- Original Message -
From: "Kurt Andersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [rrd-users] HELP: Compile on HP-UX 10.20


> "Nathan Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > After searching the mail list archives, it does not appear
> > that anyone has been able to compile RRDtool under HP-UX
> > 10.20 (or 11.00) with much success.  I have been hacking at
> > it for about a week now with little success.  I have tried
> > all the gcc stuff (plus HP Softbench with ANSI C compiler).
> > No combination seems to work.
> >
> > Has anyone had success compiling under HP-UX?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
>
> I had no particular problem building it with gcc 2.95.2 on either
> 10.20 or 11.x.  I build the 1.0.26 straight out of the tgz-box.
>
> --Kurt
>
>
> --
> Kurt Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Agilent Technologies Postmaster
> Global Messaging Team, Agilent Technologies
> (509) 921-3792
>


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