[RollTideFan] NON (Hot Air)

2004-06-27 Thread Pat Smoot
A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered altitude and
spotted a man in a boat in a lake below. She shouted to him, Excuse me, can
you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't
know where I am.

The man consulted his portable GPS and replied, You're in a hot air balloon
approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2346 feet above sea level.
You are 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09
minutes west longitude.

She rolled her eyes and said, You must be a Republican.

I am, replied the man. How did you know?

Well, answered the balloonist, everything you told me is technically
correct, but I have no idea what to make of your information, and I'm still
lost. Frankly, you've not been much help to me.

The man smiled and responded, You must be a Democrat.

I am, replied the balloonist, How did you know?

Well, said the man, you don't know where you are or where you're going.
You've risen to where you are due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a
promise that you have no idea how to keep, and you expect ME to solve your
problem. You're in EXACTLY the same position you were in before we met, but
somehow, now it's MY fault.



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Re: [RollTideFan] With Kines, this is what is missed...

2004-06-27 Thread Pat Smoot
IAWTP.


- Original Message - 
From: Steven Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics
Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] With Kines, this is what is missed...


 Kines was not a good D coorinator the first time and
 won't be now.  For the life of me I can't figure out
 why CMS would consult Perkins when he still has his
 dad

 RTR
 LC

 --- Terry Pellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  When Shula got the HC job, his *mentor* on how to
  handle operations was Joe Kines.  Granted, Oliver
  ran a good D, but his ship has long been sunk.  Even
  with a new AD, sunk.  If Kines goes anywhere soon,
  it'll be to an *office* position.
 
  You like the way Shula is handling the HC
  job...consider who his advisor is.  It's not his
  Dad, it's not CMM...
 
  Now, I don't like the fashion in which a few things
  broke down last year...but, the thought/notion it
  falls on Kines shoulders?  Ain't so.  In fact, a lot
  of it falls on DuBose/fRan and the type of players
  they brought in.
 
  T
 
 
  --- Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I don't believe at Brother Bill's age, he is going
  to be after the head
  coach position any more.  His defenses win
  championships  that's all I care
  about.
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Boozer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics
  Discussion List
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:38 AM
  Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of
  Oliver?
 
 
  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Pat Smoot
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:48 AM
To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama
  Athletics Discussion List
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of
  Oliver?
   
   
I'm still chanting for him  the season hasn't
  even started yet.  I have
zero faith in Kines.
   
   
  
   I'm with you on the zero faith in Kines part, but
  I'm still straddling the
   fence on Oliver. No doubt he is one of the best
  defensive minds ever, but
   I'm not sure that his dreams of getting the head
  coaching job are totally
   out of his head. He could end up undermining Shula
  every chance he got and
   become a cancer on the staff. Right now, I would
  probably be on the side
  of
   get rid of Kines and leave Oliver at the lake
  with the grandkids.
  
  
  
 
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Re: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?

2004-06-27 Thread Pat Smoot
Jason, you used to make good sense.  Is it the marriage thing that has
fucked up your thinking processes?


- Original Message - 
From: Jason Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?


 I'm not a huge Joe Kines fan either, but I think he had shit to work with
 last year, and will again this year.

 And I find it curious that according to season stats, our offense sucked
 MUCH worse than our defense last year.

 And it was basically Shula's offense.

 But I don't hear a deafening fire Shula chorus like I do for Joe Kines.

 Given our situation last year, I think we would have sucked with Lombardi,
 Bryant and Tom Landry coaching. And I don't think we'll be much better
this
 year.


 - Original Message -
 From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Slef E. (The *E* stands for FIRE JOE KINES!)


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Re: [RollTideFan] With Kines, this is what is missed...

2004-06-27 Thread Terry Pellman

Perkins had a lot to do with Shula being hired in the first place.  I'd say, probably 
as much influence as anyone.  While you may not like him, Perkins would have put 
another trophy in our case.

Shula said, Kines is the one who prepared me and guided me in my development (still 
ongoing) as a head coach.  

Now, tell me this.  If that is the case and I have no reason to believe Shula is a 
liar what logic stands to the notion he needs to be let go or is going to be let go?  
Quite simply, if there is a transition it'll be with a move of Kines to an ADMIN type 
position.  Fired?  It's not going to happen unless something of major proportions 
happens on the field.



--- Steven Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kines was not a good D coorinator the first time and
won't be now.  For the life of me I can't figure out
why CMS would consult Perkins when he still has his
dad

RTR
LC

--- Terry Pellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 When Shula got the HC job, his *mentor* on how to
 handle operations was Joe Kines.  Granted, Oliver
 ran a good D, but his ship has long been sunk.  Even
 with a new AD, sunk.  If Kines goes anywhere soon,
 it'll be to an *office* position.  
 
 You like the way Shula is handling the HC
 job...consider who his advisor is.  It's not his
 Dad, it's not CMM...
 
 Now, I don't like the fashion in which a few things
 broke down last year...but, the thought/notion it
 falls on Kines shoulders?  Ain't so.  In fact, a lot
 of it falls on DuBose/fRan and the type of players
 they brought in.
 
 T
 
 
 --- Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't believe at Brother Bill's age, he is going
 to be after the head
 coach position any more.  His defenses win
 championships  that's all I care
 about.
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tim Boozer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics
 Discussion List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:38 AM
 Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of
 Oliver?
 
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Behalf Of Pat Smoot
   Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:48 AM
   To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama
 Athletics Discussion List
   Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of
 Oliver?
  
  
   I'm still chanting for him  the season hasn't
 even started yet.  I have
   zero faith in Kines.
  
  
 
  I'm with you on the zero faith in Kines part, but
 I'm still straddling the
  fence on Oliver. No doubt he is one of the best
 defensive minds ever, but
  I'm not sure that his dreams of getting the head
 coaching job are totally
  out of his head. He could end up undermining Shula
 every chance he got and
  become a cancer on the staff. Right now, I would
 probably be on the side
 of
  get rid of Kines and leave Oliver at the lake
 with the grandkids.
 
 
 

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Re: [RollTideFan] With Kines, this is what is missed...

2004-06-27 Thread Terry Pellman
One other thing...take a minute and compare Oliver and Kines and their 
tenures/results/stats in their respective seasons here.  You won't find a lot of 
difference.  

Oliver gets a lot of credit...but a lot of it he doesn't deserve.

T







--- Steven Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kines was not a good D coorinator the first time and
won't be now.  For the life of me I can't figure out
why CMS would consult Perkins when he still has his
dad

RTR
LC

--- Terry Pellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 When Shula got the HC job, his *mentor* on how to
 handle operations was Joe Kines.  Granted, Oliver
 ran a good D, but his ship has long been sunk.  Even
 with a new AD, sunk.  If Kines goes anywhere soon,
 it'll be to an *office* position.  
 
 You like the way Shula is handling the HC
 job...consider who his advisor is.  It's not his
 Dad, it's not CMM...
 
 Now, I don't like the fashion in which a few things
 broke down last year...but, the thought/notion it
 falls on Kines shoulders?  Ain't so.  In fact, a lot
 of it falls on DuBose/fRan and the type of players
 they brought in.
 
 T
 
 
 --- Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't believe at Brother Bill's age, he is going
 to be after the head
 coach position any more.  His defenses win
 championships  that's all I care
 about.
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tim Boozer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics
 Discussion List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:38 AM
 Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of
 Oliver?
 
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Behalf Of Pat Smoot
   Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:48 AM
   To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama
 Athletics Discussion List
   Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of
 Oliver?
  
  
   I'm still chanting for him  the season hasn't
 even started yet.  I have
   zero faith in Kines.
  
  
 
  I'm with you on the zero faith in Kines part, but
 I'm still straddling the
  fence on Oliver. No doubt he is one of the best
 defensive minds ever, but
  I'm not sure that his dreams of getting the head
 coaching job are totally
  out of his head. He could end up undermining Shula
 every chance he got and
  become a cancer on the staff. Right now, I would
 probably be on the side
 of
  get rid of Kines and leave Oliver at the lake
 with the grandkids.
 
 
 

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Re: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?

2004-06-27 Thread Jason Houston
I'm not sure how to take that, so I'll just re-iterate that I'm not a huge
Joe Kines fan either, nor am I enamored with much of our pieced-together
staff.

But the infinite wisdom and ability of our fans to spot the whole problem of
a football team in 10 seconds, while rolling their eyes at the stupidity of
our head coach and admin folks who can't see said problem amazes me...


- Original Message -
From: Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Jason, you used to make good sense.  Is it the marriage thing that has
 fucked up your thinking processes?


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Re: [RollTideFan] jupiter aligns with mars...

2004-06-27 Thread kurtrasmussen
Always wanting to burn some grass.  You Sand Mountain fellers are all 
alike.   :)

kurt
Jeff Todd wrote:
Want me to burn that bresh pile fer ye?
Slef E.
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Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 7:01 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] jupiter aligns with mars...

 

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/29/29335/folders/154876/1115032P1010001.JPG
The riding mower, the weed eater, and the push mower all werked this weekend.  At the same time!  Iyam give out!   :) 

kurt--love will steer the stars
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Re: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?

2004-06-27 Thread Jeff Todd
Jason, did you just say: FIRE MIKE SHULA!

:)

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
From: Jason Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics 
Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?


 I'm not sure how to take that, so I'll just re-iterate that I'm not a huge
 Joe Kines fan either, nor am I enamored with much of our pieced-together
 staff.
 
 But the infinite wisdom and ability of our fans to spot the whole problem of
 a football team in 10 seconds, while rolling their eyes at the stupidity of
 our head coach and admin folks who can't see said problem amazes me...



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Re: [RollTideFan] jupiter aligns with mars...

2004-06-27 Thread Jeff Todd
I just like the smell of it. :)

Slef E.

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Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] jupiter aligns with mars...


 Always wanting to burn some grass.  You Sand Mountain fellers are all 
 alike.   :)
 
 kurt
 
 Jeff Todd wrote:
 
 Want me to burn that bresh pile fer ye?
 
 Slef E.
 
 - Original Message - 
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 Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 7:01 PM
 Subject: [RollTideFan] jupiter aligns with mars...
 
 
   
 
 http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/29/29335/folders/154876/1115032P1010001.JPG
 
 The riding mower, the weed eater, and the push mower all werked this weekend.  At 
 the same time!  Iyam give out!   :) 
 
 kurt--love will steer the stars
 
 
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Re: [RollTideFan] With Kines, this is what is missed...

2004-06-27 Thread Pat Smoot

- Original Message - 
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To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
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Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] With Kines, this is what is missed...



While you may not like him, Perkins would have put another trophy in our
case.


BULLSHIT !!



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[RollTideFan] Gottfried `happy' at Bama

2004-06-27 Thread kurtrasmussen
Honest injun.  Mal said so..
http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/1088327760276082.xml
 Gottfried `happy' at Bama
Sunday, June 27, 2004
STEVE IRVINE
*News staff writer*
TUSCALOOSA - Alabama Athletics Director Mal Moore said Saturday that no 
one from Ohio State has asked permission to interview UA men's 
basketball coach Mark Gottfried.

News reports out of Ohio have mentioned Gottfried as a possible 
candidate for the vacant OSU head men's basketball job.

Moore acknowledged that Alabama's appearance in the NCAA Tournament 
Elite Eight this past season increased the possibility that Gottfried's 
name could crop up for vacant coaching jobs. However, Moore doesn't 
expect Gottfried to leave his current job.

I think Mark is very happy at Alabama and he has a very good contract, 
Moore said.

Gottfried signed a new contract worth $800,000 per year before this past 
season. His contract extends through the 2008-09 season.

Alabama advanced to the NCAA Tournament Regional Final in March before 
losing to eventual champion Connecticut. The Tide finished 20-13 in 
2003-04 and is 119-75 in Gottfried's six seasons as the head coach. 
Alabama won the 2001-02 SEC title and has advanced to three consecutive 
NCAA Tournaments under Gottfried.

Gottfried, 40, has refused to speculate on Ohio State's intentions since 
media reports in Ohio mentioned him as a possible candidate. An ESPN.com 
report, however, mentioned six possible candidates to replace the fired 
Jim O'Brien, and Gottfried was not included. The Web site said in the 
same story that Marquette's Tom Crean is considered the front-runner for 
the position.

Ohio State Athletics Director Andy Geiger declined earlier this week to 
respond when asked if he had talked to Gottfried. Athletics department 
spokesman Steve Snapp said Geiger had not spoken with Gottfried.

The answer would be no, Snapp said. He has not been in contact with 
him.

Gottfried, an Alabama graduate and Crestline, Ohio, native, had a 
speaking engagement in Kentucky on Thursday and spent the following two 
days tending to a basketball camp at Coleman Coliseum.


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[RollTideFan] 65

2004-06-27 Thread kurtrasmussen
http://www.wagenschenke.ch/HomeRun.swf
kurt
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RE: [RollTideFan] 65

2004-06-27 Thread Tim Boozer
69


But it's too early in the morning on a Sunday. Let me get a 12 pack in me so
that I'll be on this guys mindset and I'm sure I can make a 100!


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Re: [RollTideFan] 65

2004-06-27 Thread kurtrasmussen
Tim Boozer wrote:
69
But it's too early in the morning on a Sunday. Let me get a 12 pack in me so
that I'll be on this guys mindset and I'm sure I can make a 100!
PR33CH!   

kurt
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Re: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?

2004-06-27 Thread Joe Goodson
Oh ye have little faith.  Confidence is half the battle in football.  We
WILL have a winning season.  Period!
Joe
It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it
work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back.
Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster
productivity, not stifle it.

Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981


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Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?


 I'm not a huge Joe Kines fan either, but I think he had shit to work with
 last year, and will again this year.

 And I find it curious that according to season stats, our offense sucked
 MUCH worse than our defense last year.

 And it was basically Shula's offense.

 But I don't hear a deafening fire Shula chorus like I do for Joe Kines.

 Given our situation last year, I think we would have sucked with Lombardi,
 Bryant and Tom Landry coaching. And I don't think we'll be much better
this
 year.


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 From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Slef E. (The *E* stands for FIRE JOE KINES!)


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[RollTideFan] Now I don't wear panty hose

2004-06-27 Thread kurtrasmussen
but if Beautymist can make MY legs looks good, imagine what they'll do 
for yours.

http://www.commercialcloset.org/cgi-bin/iowa/portrayals.html?record=44
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[RollTideFan] Paying Tribute to a Friend

2004-06-27 Thread kurtrasmussen
*http://alabama.theinsiders.com/2/270410.html
Paying Tribute to a Friend*
/By Kirk McNair 
javascript:location.href='http://search.theinsiders.com/a.z?s=14p=4c=1search=1sskey=%22' 
+ escape('Kirk McNair') + '%22sssiteid=14'; /
Date: Jun 27, 2004

*The following are remarks by BAMA Mag Editor Kirk McNair at the 
funeral of *J.E. Jay Lisby* in Columbus, Georgia, Saturday. Jay, who 
had been associate editor of BAMA for the past four years, died 
Wednesday from cancer.*

Most of you, family and longtime friends, know Jeffrey Lisby. Im here 
to speak of Jay Lisby.

snip Click on link
With pic.
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[RollTideFan] Adam and.... Steve?

2004-06-27 Thread kurtrasmussen
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2u=/040627/ids_photos_en/r3370188909.jpge=16ncid=1756
kurt
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Re: [RollTideFan] 65

2004-06-27 Thread kurtrasmussen
kurtrasmussen wrote:
Tim Boozer wrote:
But it's too early in the morning on a Sunday.

By the damn way too early?   Did you say  Too Early?!What the 
hell kinda boozer are you anyway?

kurt

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Re: [RollTideFan] NON (Hot Air)

2004-06-27 Thread Joe Goodson
ROTFLMAO!!!
How true it is.
Joe
It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it
work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back.
Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster
productivity, not stifle it.

Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981


- Original Message - 
From: Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 6:16 AM
Subject: [RollTideFan] NON (Hot Air)


 A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered altitude
and
 spotted a man in a boat in a lake below. She shouted to him, Excuse me,
can
 you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't
 know where I am.

 The man consulted his portable GPS and replied, You're in a hot air
balloon
 approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2346 feet above sea
level.
 You are 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09
 minutes west longitude.

 She rolled her eyes and said, You must be a Republican.

 I am, replied the man. How did you know?

 Well, answered the balloonist, everything you told me is technically
 correct, but I have no idea what to make of your information, and I'm
still
 lost. Frankly, you've not been much help to me.

 The man smiled and responded, You must be a Democrat.

 I am, replied the balloonist, How did you know?

 Well, said the man, you don't know where you are or where you're going.
 You've risen to where you are due to a large quantity of hot air. You made
a
 promise that you have no idea how to keep, and you expect ME to solve your
 problem. You're in EXACTLY the same position you were in before we met,
but
 somehow, now it's MY fault.



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Re: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?

2004-06-27 Thread Joe Goodson
You do have a bit of a point there.  We are not in the mix and don't know
how hard they do (or don't) try to do their job effectively.  But you have
to admit, the defense did cost us a few games last year.  However, Coach
Shula thinks that Coach Kines will be an asset, and that is good enough for
me to grudgingly give my modest blessing.

I will support Coach Shula unconditionally for another two years.  After
that..

Joe

It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it
work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back.
Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster
productivity, not stifle it.

Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981


- Original Message - 
From: Jason Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RollTideFan-The University of
Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?

 But the infinite wisdom and ability of our fans to spot the whole problem
of
 a football team in 10 seconds, while rolling their eyes at the stupidity
of
 our head coach and admin folks who can't see said problem amazes me...



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Re: [RollTideFan] Adam and.... Steve?

2004-06-27 Thread Joe Goodson
ewww...I really didn't need to see that.

barf
Joe
It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it
work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back.
Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster
productivity, not stifle it.

Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981


- Original Message - 
From: kurtrasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: rtf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 3:27 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Adam and Steve?



http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2u=/040627/ids_photos_en/r3370188909.jpge=16ncid=1756

 kurt

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Re: [RollTideFan] With Kines, this is what is missed...

2004-06-27 Thread Terry Pellman
BULLSHIT !!

I'll have to admit, that was a well thought out response.  I pray I didn't take you 
away from anything.

T







--- Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] With Kines, this is what is missed...



While you may not like him, Perkins would have put another trophy in our
case.


BULLSHIT !!



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Re: [RollTideFan] With Kines, this is what is missed...

2004-06-27 Thread Jeff Todd
How could you possibly know that?

Slef E.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Terry Pellman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] With Kines, this is what is missed...
 
 
 
 While you may not like him, Perkins would have put another trophy in our
 case.



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Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?

2004-06-27 Thread M Laborde
4th and 19...

4th and nine-fucking-teen!!! The agony of that will be felt in my heart for the
rest of my life.

And against the team that is, arguably, our biggest rival.

What else needs to be said. Kines' hiring was questioned when it happened, it
was questioned during the season many times, and has been questioned repeatedly
since then. It's not 10 seconds. It's over a year plus his history. It
WAS stupid of Shula to keep Kines. No question about it.




JG - Original Message - 
JG From: Jason Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JG To: Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RollTideFan-The University of
JG Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JG Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:16 AM
JG Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?

 But the infinite wisdom and ability of our fans to spot the whole problem
JG of
 a football team in 10 seconds, while rolling their eyes at the stupidity
JG of
 our head coach and admin folks who can't see said problem amazes me...








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Re: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?

2004-06-27 Thread kurt rasmussen
M Laborde wrote:
4th and 19...
4th and nine-fucking-teen!!! The agony of that will be felt in my heart for the
rest of my life.
 

PR33CH JAVVY!!   PR33CH!!  !
In 5 damn OT's!FIVE!!
And against the team that is, arguably, our biggest rival.
True dat.  I hate Tessesse and so should you!
kurt
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RE: [RollTideFan] 65

2004-06-27 Thread Tim Boozer


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Behalf Of kurtrasmussen
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 4:31 PM
To: rtf
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] 65


kurtrasmussen wrote:

 Tim Boozer wrote:

 But it's too early in the morning on a Sunday.


By the damn way too early?   Did you say  Too Early?!What the 
hell kinda boozer are you anyway?

kurt



Damn - my reputation is slipping.

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Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?

2004-06-27 Thread Joe Goodson
4th and nineteen to Tenn. will forever piss me off as well.

Look at it on the bright side.  Remember when we had a 3rd and 23 in
Auburn..and we got 24 yardson a draw play??  LOL  That might help
your feelings a little.  It does mine.

RTR  September is just around the cornertwo months

wooho!!!
Joe
It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it
work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back.
Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster
productivity, not stifle it.

Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981


- Original Message - 
From: M Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 7:13 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?


 4th and 19...

 4th and nine-fucking-teen!!! The agony of that will be felt in my heart
for the
 rest of my life.

 And against the team that is, arguably, our biggest rival.

 What else needs to be said. Kines' hiring was questioned when it happened,
it
 was questioned during the season many times, and has been questioned
repeatedly
 since then. It's not 10 seconds. It's over a year plus his history. It
 WAS stupid of Shula to keep Kines. No question about it.




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RE: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?

2004-06-27 Thread Rick McMahan

Facts be known, the fucking 4th and 19 should have never happened. The Tide
offense should have salted the game away in regulation when they had it 1st
down and 3 yards to go to make a first. They make that 1st, ballgame's over!
Basically the same could be said about the Arky game, the Tide fumbled and
bumbled away a 21 point lead by NOT moving the chains when the game was on
the line. I'm with Slef, fire Radar and Kines! :)

9 weeks and 5 days till KICKOFF!!

ROLL TIDE ROLL
Rick

 -Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On
Behalf Of Joe Goodson
Sent:   Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:07 PM
To: M Laborde; RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion
List
Subject:Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?

4th and nineteen to Tenn. will forever piss me off as well.

Look at it on the bright side.  Remember when we had a 3rd and 23 in
Auburn..and we got 24 yardson a draw play??  LOL  That might help
your feelings a little.  It does mine.

RTR  September is just around the cornertwo months

wooho!!!
Joe
It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it
work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back.
Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster
productivity, not stifle it.

Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981


- Original Message -
From: M Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 7:13 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?


 4th and 19...

 4th and nine-fucking-teen!!! The agony of that will be felt in my heart
for the
 rest of my life.

 And against the team that is, arguably, our biggest rival.

 What else needs to be said. Kines' hiring was questioned when it happened,
it
 was questioned during the season many times, and has been questioned
repeatedly
 since then. It's not 10 seconds. It's over a year plus his history. It
 WAS stupid of Shula to keep Kines. No question about it.




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