Re: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Jeff Todd



I stop there to worship every morning on my way to 
work.
 
Slef
 

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  Mike Laborde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
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  Monday, October 29, 2001 3:25 PMSubject: RE: [RollTideFan] NAME 
  THIS COUNTRYHave you ever been to Palisades Park 
  in/outside of Oneonta, AL and seen theConfederate memorial 
there?


Re: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread PIRATESPT

>Jimmy Carter was perhaps the smartest man to ever be President...and had the 
biggest heartbut he was a micromanagerand bad economic and foreign 
affairs advice and events destroyed himdont try to tar him with that 
Clintonesque brushof everybody does itpolitics is hard ball...but it 
doesnt have to be low ball.





 But as Scott Rogers reminded us, politics is NEVER a polite, gentlemanly

> pursuit.  Hanky-panky is the norm, unless your initials are JEC.


C'mon guys, even he admitted in the infamous Playboy interview that he

"lusted in his heart". Being human, I am sure that was a momentary lapse

never repeated. Hence, iksnay the aintsay tatusay.

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Re: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Jeff Todd



It's true.
 
Slef

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  THIS COUNTRYHow can people say that with a straight 
  face?  AmazingLeeUA  '92He actually 
  lamented that they used to be able to get away with stufflike that in 
  Chicago and St. Louis without getting caught.  I would havestrangled 
  him if I could have gotten my hands on him that day.bill 
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Re: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Jeff Todd



Former Chicago Mayor Richard Daley encouraging 
voters:
 
"Vote early, and vote often".
 
 
JT

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  Monday, October 29, 2001 4:33 PMSubject: Re: [RollTideFan] NAME 
  THIS COUNTRYSince he is a Democrat, he likes 
  it.He works at Gephart's St. Louis office.  After the election 
  lastNovember, I e-mailed him about the St. Louis polls being held open 
  afterhours in Democratic districts.He actually lamented that they 
  used to be able to get away with stufflike that in Chicago and St. Louis 
  without getting caught.  I would havestrangled him if I could have 
  gotten my hands on him that day.bill evansHartselle, AL[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:49:54 -0600 "Baker, Lee"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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RE: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Coach_Fran

Where do I begin with this sentence? I guess I can translate a little.
"..He graduated from AU in 1989" means he drove by Tooter's Corner in
1989 with his window open. 
"a degree in 'Soviet Intelligence'" - - This is a tough one to
understand. First, a degree in this subject would take about 15 minutes
to achieve due to the lack of subject matter. Second, 'Soviet
Intelligence' is an oxymoron. 
 

:-) 
Javvy 

You mispelt Goobers.

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Re: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Scott Rogers

> But as Scott Rogers reminded us, politics is NEVER a polite, gentlemanly
> pursuit.  Hanky-panky is the norm, unless your initials are JEC.

C'mon guys, even he admitted in the infamous Playboy interview that he
"lusted in his heart". Being human, I am sure that was a momentary lapse
never repeated. Hence, iksnay the aintsay tatusay.

Scott

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Re: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread William H Evans

Phil - I agree with you on Jimmy Carter.  He may have been an ineffective
President, a less than Presidential leader, and totally lost on the
economy, but his character is beyond reproach.  We had a huge argument
about this on AU-Sports about two months ago.

Carter also did some things that he caught flack for at the time but that
turned out to be the correct thing to do: He tried to kill the B-1
program and started the Tomahawk cruise missile program.

His point was this: Why don't we continue to use these proven B-52's and
put some cruise missiles on them so they don't have to come with 1500
miles of their targets?

The few B-1's that we currently have will have been in mothballs for 40
years before they retire the B-52's in 2050.

The objection to them keeping the polls open in St. Louis was that they
ONLY did it in Democratic districts.  Then they bussed in every likely
Democratic voter they could find.

But as Scott Rogers reminded us, politics is NEVER a polite, gentlemanly
pursuit.  Hanky-panky is the norm, unless your initials are JEC.


bill evans
Hartselle, AL
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:16:12 -0500 "Phillip L. Harbison"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Scott Rogers wrote:
> > There are no pristine, saintly political figures [...]
> 
> James E. Carter on line 1. :-)
> 
> 
> Bill Evans wrote:
> > After the election last November, I e-mailed him about the
> > St. Louis polls being held open after hours in Democratic
> > districts.
> 
> Why would you object to registered voters exercising their
> right to vote?  We have a big problem with voting throughput
> here in Atlanta and I would bet STL has the same problem.
> Most blue collar people have to work during the day when
> the polls are open.  If the polls are only open from 7AM to
> 6PM, they have a window of about 30 minutes in the morning
> and 30 minutes in the evening to vote.  That puts a big
> strain on the system.  Of course the obvious solution is to
> LEGALLY expand the voting hours, and Atlanta has done that.
> I think some of our precincts stay open until 7 or 8 PM.  I
> think anyone in line by closing time also gets to vote no
> matter how long that takes.  Is that not reasonable?
> 
> -- 
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Re: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread William H Evans

-- comments embedded --


On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:02:40 -0500 "Phillip L. Harbison" 
> 
> > Iraq and N. Korea aren't going to be attacking us in a
> > conventional sense with ICBM's.
> 
> North Korea supposedly has a missile that could reach the
> Alutien Islands.  They might melt a lot of ice and snow and
> kill some baby seals.  I'll let Greenpeace worry about that.
> Just as long as Russell's beer remains cold. :-)
> 


It might reach the Aleutians with a favorable wind and if the stars are
in alignment.  Otherwise it is likely to take out the N. Korean launch
facility.


> > Let's spend that money on intelligence so we'll know what
> > they are planning."
> 
> This guy is pretty smart for an aubie. :-)
> 


Like I said: I felt compelled to call him and say "You were right."


Dos va donya,


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Re: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Phillip L. Harbison

Scott Rogers wrote:
> There are no pristine, saintly political figures [...]

James E. Carter on line 1. :-)


Bill Evans wrote:
> After the election last November, I e-mailed him about the
> St. Louis polls being held open after hours in Democratic
> districts.

Why would you object to registered voters exercising their
right to vote?  We have a big problem with voting throughput
here in Atlanta and I would bet STL has the same problem.
Most blue collar people have to work during the day when
the polls are open.  If the polls are only open from 7AM to
6PM, they have a window of about 30 minutes in the morning
and 30 minutes in the evening to vote.  That puts a big
strain on the system.  Of course the obvious solution is to
LEGALLY expand the voting hours, and Atlanta has done that.
I think some of our precincts stay open until 7 or 8 PM.  I
think anyone in line by closing time also gets to vote no
matter how long that takes.  Is that not reasonable?

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Re: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread William H Evans

These two points are the keys to this thread.  It is a matter of
priorities in a changing world.  Aircraft carriers and 100 megaton
hydrogen bombs do little to dissuade a small band of terrorists from
doing their dastardly deeds.  

If they had to spend some time wondering if their organization had been
infiltrated by US intelligence (even if it hasn't), it would at least
cause them problems.  

Some on-target intelligence *could* give us some advance warning next
time.  < knock on wood >

On a slightly different note that applies back to Jeff's original post:
The US Army helicopter design/maintenance groups are in Huntsville.  For
the past three years I have been hearing that they didn't have enough
spare parts to even use the choppers for training.  It would have been
nice if Clinton had taken the savings from streamlining the military and
used them to buy some spare parts to keep what we already have in
operation.

A grounded Apache is only useful as a paper weight.


bill evans
Hartselle, AL
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:23:40 -0500 "Phillip L. Harbison" > 
> 
> > We could have had 20 times the armed services we have and
> > it wouldn't have prevented Sept. 11th. 
> 
> True, but adequate emphasis on human intelligence might have
> prevented it.
> 
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Re: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Phillip L. Harbison

William H Evans wrote:
> He kept telling me "Why build a missile defense system
> when we can't protect ourselves against a terrorist attack?

He's right. :-)

> Iraq and N. Korea aren't going to be attacking us in a
> conventional sense with ICBM's.

North Korea supposedly has a missile that could reach the
Alutien Islands.  They might melt a lot of ice and snow and
kill some baby seals.  I'll let Greenpeace worry about that.
Just as long as Russell's beer remains cold. :-)

> Let's spend that money on intelligence so we'll know what
> they are planning."

This guy is pretty smart for an aubie. :-)

> I called him up on Sept. 12 to tell him "You were right".

We have neglected human intelligence to our peril.  While
we marveled at satellites that could pick up Nixon's five
o'clock shadow as he got off the plane in Beijing, or see
the "Titleist" logo on a golf ball, Al Queda we plotting
our demise in the caves of Afghanistan.  You would think
by now we could have payed someone to get close enough to
Assmama to plant a GPS transponder so our cruise missiles
would have accurate targeting information.


Javvy wrote:
> "a degree in 'Soviet Intelligence'" [...] First, a degree
> in this subject would take about 15 minutes to achieve due
> to the lack of subject matter.

Underestimating the enemy invites disasters like Pearl Harbor,
Yalu River, Vietnam, and the 9/11/01 terrorist attacks.


Piratespt wrote:
> Deo vendice.

Amen!

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RE: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Rick McMahan


Our quote for the day...

"The middle of the road is the usable surface.  The extremes, right and
left, are in the gutters." President Dwight D. Eisenhower

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> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Laborde
>
>
> Looks like all the lefties are out today! ;-)
>

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RE: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Mike Laborde

Hmm... How would it be helpful to capitalism if we GAVE the Ruskies oil?
Wouldn't it be helpful, capitalism-wise, only if we SOLD them the oil?



-Original Message-
From: Komrade Phillip L. Harbison

but I would give the Russians some of the oil if it helped
their experiment in capitalism.



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Re: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Phillip L. Harbison

Mike Laborde wrote:
> From: Komrade Phillip L. Harbison
and:
> Looks like all the lefties are out today! ;-)

I'm a libertarian, not a lefty.  I am not opposed to military
spending.  I'm not opposed to kicking the crap out of anyone
who attacks us.  Hell, I don't even mind being the aggressor
if there is a worthwhile goal (like taking Iraq's oil and
ridding the world of an a-hole like Saddam Hussein).  You
will find no "flower power" signs at the B3ARCUB hacienda,
but I would give the Russians some of the oil if it helped
their experiment in capitalism.


Ron Rice wrote:
> Excellent post Phil.  Less military is not a bad thing.

I'm not advocating less military.  In fact, I think military
spending is woefully inadequate.  I am simply saying we need
to spend our money wisely.  Spending money on weapon systems
and bases the military doesn't even want is foolish.  Spending
money on an ABM system while neglecting maintenance, training,
and intelligence is foolish and possibly fatal.

But before we can fix our military budget, we need to change
the military philosophy of the civilian government.  Why is
the only remaining superpower still preparing to fight the
cold war in two theatres?  We are planning to fight World War
II again and failing to plan for contemporary threats.  Our
best military experts are telling us this, so why are we not
listening?

Who are the contemporary threats?  I don't think the Russians
are a problem.  Our best bet is to do everything we can to
see that their experiment in capitalism is a raving success.
It will take some time, but I believe the same policy will
eventually work for China.  So who does that leave?  About a
dozen totalitarian or fanatical regimes around the world bent
on regional (if not world) domination including Iraz, Iran,
the Taliban, Al Queda, and the PLO.

How do we deal with these threats?  The key is the 4 R's.

Readiness: We need to be ready to fight at a moments notice.
Our enemies must know that any attack will be provoke an
immediate and disproportionate response.

Reconnaisance: We should do our homework BEFORE a conflict
erupts.  We should know who our enemies are, where they are,
what they are planning, and how we can best attach them or
foil their plans.  Sun Tzu said all battles are won before
they are fought.  He also said the best generals are those
who win without even having to fight.  We've forgotten that
lesson and allowed the marvels of satellite recon to lull
us into complacency.

Reach: We should be able to project overwhelming force to
any corner of the world on short notice.  This is one area
where our spending is both misguided and inadequate.  What
we need is more mobility.  We need more carriers so we can
maintain a floating air base near any hot spot.  We must be
able to operate without the cooperation of the surrounding
states.  That requires transport systems that can ferry
massive forces from the nearest carrier group, and planes
like the Joint Strike Fighter (VTOL) that can operate near
the conflict point from minimal air bases.

Resolve:  When we deploy our troops, we should pursue our
battle plan with the tenacity of a pit bull.  We cannot
allow the first news footage of casualties to weaken our
resolve.  Our withdrawal from Somalia probably did more to
encourage the 9/11 attacks than anything other than our
military presence in the "land of two holy places".


> We could have had 20 times the armed services we have and
> it wouldn't have prevented Sept. 11th. 

True, but adequate emphasis on human intelligence might have
prevented it.

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Re: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Scott Rogers

I guess you people also believe that the gop is pure as driven snow. GET A
GRIP! It is
P O L I T I C S. Politics is dirty, always has been, always will be. Frankly
it is very humorus   to watch people get self-righteous and indignant about
immoral goings on in politics or with political figures. There are no
pristine, saintly political figures (ok, maybe Calvin Coolidge).  These
people are not your ministers or preachers (well if Jimmy Swaggart was your
cup of tea, then maybe close).  The amazing part is the holier than thou
attitude between political rivals or parties..like Dubbya didn't steal
the biggest election of them all. ROTFLMAO

Scott
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> How can people say that with a straight face?  Amazing
>
>
> Lee
>
> UA  '92
>
> He actually lamented that they used to be able to get away with stuff
> like that in Chicago and St. Louis without getting caught.  I would have
> strangled him if I could have gotten my hands on him that day.
>
>
> bill evans
> Hartselle, AL
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:49:54 -0600 "Baker, Lee"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > How does your friend like working for labor bosses??
> >
> > Lee
> >
> > UA  '92
> >
> 
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RE: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Baker, Lee

How can people say that with a straight face?  Amazing


Lee

UA  '92

He actually lamented that they used to be able to get away with stuff
like that in Chicago and St. Louis without getting caught.  I would have
strangled him if I could have gotten my hands on him that day.


bill evans
Hartselle, AL
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> 
> Lee
> 
> UA  '92
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RE: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Baker, Lee

How does your friend like working for labor bosses??

Lee

UA  '92

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You knew what type of intelligence I was talking about.  :-)  

'Soviet Intelligence' refers to spying on the former Soviet Union. 
Strangely, he got his degree within a few months of the USSR folding. 
This has been a constant source of derision to him from me since he
graduated.  As has his working for Gephart.

He speaks all of the flavors of Russian, Ukrainian, Arabic, etc. and he
can spell all of the J-K states (Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgystan,
Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, etc.) without a scorecard.  And he correctly
predicted to me for years that we would eventually be the target of a
small band of terrorists from that part of the world.


bill evans
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:07:57 -0500 "Mike Laborde"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> --comments imbedded--
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: William H Evans
> 
> ...he graduated from AU in 1989 with a degree in 'Soviet 
> Intelligence'.
> 
> 
> 
> Where do I begin with this sentence? I guess I can translate a 
> little. "..He
> graduated from AU in 1989" means he drove by Tooter's Corner in 1989 
> with
> his window open.
> 
> "a degree in 'Soviet Intelligence'" - - This is a tough one to 
> understand.
> First, a degree in this subject would take about 15 minutes to 
> achieve due
> to the lack of subject matter. Second, 'Soviet Intelligence' is an 
> oxymoron.
> 
> 
> 
> :-)
> 
> Javvy
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread William H Evans

You knew what type of intelligence I was talking about.  :-)  

'Soviet Intelligence' refers to spying on the former Soviet Union. 
Strangely, he got his degree within a few months of the USSR folding. 
This has been a constant source of derision to him from me since he
graduated.  As has his working for Gephart.

He speaks all of the flavors of Russian, Ukrainian, Arabic, etc. and he
can spell all of the J-K states (Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgystan,
Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, etc.) without a scorecard.  And he correctly
predicted to me for years that we would eventually be the target of a
small band of terrorists from that part of the world.


bill evans
Hartselle, AL
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:07:57 -0500 "Mike Laborde"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> --comments imbedded--
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: William H Evans
> 
> ...he graduated from AU in 1989 with a degree in 'Soviet 
> Intelligence'.
> 
> 
> 
> Where do I begin with this sentence? I guess I can translate a 
> little. "..He
> graduated from AU in 1989" means he drove by Tooter's Corner in 1989 
> with
> his window open.
> 
> "a degree in 'Soviet Intelligence'" - - This is a tough one to 
> understand.
> First, a degree in this subject would take about 15 minutes to 
> achieve due
> to the lack of subject matter. Second, 'Soviet Intelligence' is an 
> oxymoron.
> 
> 
> 
> :-)
> 
> Javvy
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Mike Laborde

Disclaimer: I, of course, was JUST JOKING with my original comments.

Have you ever been to Palisades Park in/outside of Oneonta, AL and seen the
Confederate memorial there?

Javvy

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Deo vendice.




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Re: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread PIRATESPT


In a message dated 10/29/01 4:49:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Nope, just confederate ones.  :-) >>

Deo vendice.
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RE: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Mike Laborde

--comments imbedded--

-Original Message-
From: William H Evans

...he graduated from AU in 1989 with a degree in 'Soviet Intelligence'.



Where do I begin with this sentence? I guess I can translate a little. "..He
graduated from AU in 1989" means he drove by Tooter's Corner in 1989 with
his window open.

"a degree in 'Soviet Intelligence'" - - This is a tough one to understand.
First, a degree in this subject would take about 15 minutes to achieve due
to the lack of subject matter. Second, 'Soviet Intelligence' is an oxymoron.



:-)

Javvy

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Re: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread William H Evans

A guy I graduated from HS with and went to Auburn with is one of Richard
Gepharts's aides.  FWIW - he graduated from AU in 1989 with a degree in
'Soviet Intelligence'.

For the past five years we have been arguing about ABM systems.

He kept telling me "Why build a missile defense system when we can't
protect ourselves against a terrorist attack?  Iraq and N. Korea aren't
going to be attacking us in a conventional sense with ICBM's.  Let's
spend that money on intelligence so we'll know what they are planning."

I called him up on Sept. 12 to tell him "You were right".


bill evans
Hartselle, AL
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:38:00 -0500 "Phillip L. Harbison"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> I believe some of these cuts were preordained before Clinton was
> elected.  Specifically, Reagan/Bush claim credit for the Strategic
> Arms Reduction Treaty (and rightfully so, they spent the USSR into
> bankruptcy).  That treaty mandated many of these cuts.  Surely a
> reduction in the number of nuclear missiles is not a bad thing.
> 

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RE: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Mike Laborde

Looks like all the lefties are out today! ;-)

-Original Message-
From: Ron Rice

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:43:02  
 Mike Laborde wrote:
>Southerners are racists!!!

Nope, just confederate ones.  :-)




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RE: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Ron Rice

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:43:02  
 Mike Laborde wrote:
>Southerners are racists!!!

Nope, just confederate ones.  :-)


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RE: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Mike Laborde

ODL!!!

Southerners are racists!!!

Javvy

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Re: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Phillip L. Harbison

Dennis Miller wrote:
> [...]
> - 19 STRATEGIC  BALLISTIC MISSILE SUBMARINES WITH 3,114 NUCLEAR
>   WARHEADS ON  232 MISSILES.
> - 500 ICBMs WITH 1,950 WARHEADS.
> [...]
> THESE  ARE THE AMERICAN MILITARY FORCES THAT HAVE DISAPPEARED
> SINCE THE 1992 ELECTION OF BILL CLINTON  & AL GORE

I believe some of these cuts were preordained before Clinton was
elected.  Specifically, Reagan/Bush claim credit for the Strategic
Arms Reduction Treaty (and rightfully so, they spent the USSR into
bankruptcy).  That treaty mandated many of these cuts.  Surely a
reduction in the number of nuclear missiles is not a bad thing.

By the way, how many of those 709k troups did Bush return to
active duty PRIOR to 9/11/2001?  Oh, I forgot, he chose to spend
the mythical budget surplus on a missile shield.  How many ICBMs
do the Taliban and Al Queda command?  How effective is that shield
against a small tactical nuke carried in a suitcase?

I don't mean to pick on you, Sleffiecakes.  Frankly, I don't think
Bush, Gore or the congress have a clue about what needs to happen
with military spending.  This in spite of some excellent advice
from fine officers such as Gen. Shinseki (US Army chief of staff)
who realize we're no longer fighting the cold war.  I would go
into details about BUTTWIPE (BearcUb's ToTal WhooPass initiativE)
but this is supposedly a sports discussion list. :-)

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[RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread Dennis Miller

¦ - 709,000 REGULAR  (ACTIVE DUTY) PERSONNEL.
¦ - 293,000 RESERVE TROOPS.
¦ - EIGHT STANDING ARMY DIVISIONS.
¦ -  20 AIR FORCE AND NAVY AIR WINGS WITH 2,000 COMBAT AIRCRAFT.
¦ - 232 STRATEGIC BOMBERS.
¦ - 19 STRATEGIC  BALLISTIC MISSILE SUBMARINES WITH 3,114 NUCLEAR WARHEADS ¦¦¦
ON  232 MISSILES.
¦ - 500 ICBMs WITH 1,950 WARHEADS.
¦ - FOUR AIRCRAFT CARRIERS AND 121 SURFACE COMBAT SHIPS AND SUBMARINES ¦¦¦ 
PLUS ALL THE SUPPORT BASES, SHIPYARDS, AND LOGISTICAL ASSETS NEEDED TO ¦¦¦ 
SUSTAIN SUCH A NAVAL FORCE.

¦ - IS THIS  COUNTRY:
¦ - RUSSIA  ?¦¦  NO
¦ - RED CHINA  ?¦ NO
¦  - GREAT BRITAIN ?¦¦ NO
¦ - FRANCE  ?¦  WRONG AGAIN
¦ - MUST BE USA ? STILL  WRONG
¦¦¦ GIVE UP ?
¦ THESE  ARE THE AMERICAN MILITARY FORCES THAT HAVE DISAPPEARED SINCE
THE 1992 ELECTION OF BILL CLINTON  & AL GORE


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