Re: [scots-l] Brechin Session
We'll see tomorrow! Nevertheless, I didn't know about this tune, Could you post the abc for it, please? Manuel - Original Message - From: David Greenberg or Kate Dunlay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [scots-l] Brechin Session For those of you nearby/interested there will be a session on Brechin at the Caledonian Hotel on the fourth of June (next Friday) at around 20.00.Do they play James Oswald's "Brechin Reel"?- Kate D.
[scots-l] Brechin Session
HI, For those of you nearby/interested there will be a session on Brechin at the Caledonian Hotel on the fourth of June (next Friday) at around 20.00. The place serves food, wine and real ales and, if you have a lot of the last two ones, they've got rooms too. Cheers, Manuel Waldesco
Re: [scots-l] ocarinas etc
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 10:10 PM Subject: [scots-l] ocarinas etc The Spanish composer Enrique Granados (1867 - 1916) wrote his ten Danzas españolas for piano (subsequently reset for guitar and orchestra and dance number 6 is quite close to the Irish/Scottish piece. The dance is said to be a "rondalla Aragonesa which describes the scene of guitars being strummed in the streets and is in the rhythm of the jota, a dance from Aragon and Valencia". - I confess I'm not really into Granados et al but, as Aragonese, I would just mention than the popular/standard rondalla (a band) consist not only of guitars but also of bandurria, laud and other instruments of the cittern family (though other instruments were used too) Regarding the jota, a lot has been written about both the dance and the tune, it is played in most of Spain, though nowadays is strongly associated with Aragon, and it is normally written (with exceptions) in 3/8 If somebody is interested on the topic I could have a look at a couple of books and develop a bit more. Salud, Manuel Waldesco Brechin, Scotland Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Brechin Sessions
As part of the local arts festival in Brechin, there will be two sessions, details below: September 22. Brechin Arms. Open session with Friock Folk, 8pm to 1pm September 25. Caledonian Hotel. Open sessions with Maureen Jelks, Barbara Dymock and Stuart MacKay, 8pm to 11pm See you there, Manuel Waldesco
Re: [scots-l] Kirriemuir Festival
- Original Message - From: "Jack Campin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [scots-l] Kirriemuir Festival > I am trying to find out what's up at the festival at Kirriemuir, > all the information I have found just talks very generally (concerts, > ceilidhs, sesions...) Does anybody know if there's any actual > programme or list of events? Thanks, Manuel Waldesco I posted a list before and I'm just back from it. I don't think you were there? you missed yourself. -- In fact I did, we were pretty tired by the weekend and decided to stay closer to home, so we went to see the stones at Aberlemno before they cover them up and we ended up eating the worst high tea in all Angus in a pub in Forfar... So maybe next year... anyway, I am going for sure tomorrow to the Ballad concert at House of Dun, if anybody goes there, I can be identified for being almost certainly the only Spaniard in the venue Cheers, Manuel Waldesco Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Brechin Session
- Original Message - From: "Nigel Gatherer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Scots-L Posting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:27 PM Subject: [scots-l] Brechin Session > Last night I went up to see Scots-L lister Manuel at his new home of > Brechin, and sat in on a nice session in the Brechin Arms. The main > thrust of the session came from four young fiddlers from the Tayside > Young Fiddlers based in Dundee (I think they're under Jill Simpson), > and I thought they were great. I love seeing youngsters playing > enthusiastically, so I was in my element. Nigel Jelks from Kirriemuir > was holding things together with his beautiful sounding Vanden > mandolin, and I was there simply to confuse matters by being another > mandolin-playing Nigel. Later Christine Kydd joined us and sang one > song before I had to make the long trip back to Crieff. All in all it > was worth it for me, because I had a great time playing music. > Yes, it was a good session, even for the passive-musician-in-the-back like me! Given the relative success it is likely that similar things are going to happen thereafter, there are two local pubs which could maybe host weekly sessions, if so, I will give notice for the session-minded. Whatever, following the Hairst sessions, tomorrow there's another one at the Northern Vaults, Montrose at 8.00pm leaded by Maureen Jelks, Barbara Dymock and Graham White. Cheers, Manuel Waldesco Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Kirriemuir Festival
Hi, I am trying to find out what's up at the festival at Kirriemuir, all the information I have found just talks very generally (concerts, ceilidhs, sesions...) Does anybody know if there's any actual programme or list of events? Thanks, Manuel Waldesco
[scots-l] Norwegain reels
I've been recently listening to an album by Norwegian fiddler, trump player and whistler Anon Egeland. He plays traditional music from the Agder region in Southern Norway. Alongside the usual repertoire of Norwegian dance tunes (halling, hambo, polka...) there are two 'rilen'. This is the first time I've found a traditional reel in a Scandinavian context (in fact, first time outside the British Isles and America). Does anybody know more about this subject? Anon Egeland just mention that one characteristic of the Adger reels is the asymmetrical structure. I just wonder that we have here an example of Scottish influence on a Norwegian tradition... Anyway, here it is the tune in ABC: X:2T:FjellrilenR:reelD:Anon Egeland, 'Anon'Z:Manuel WaldescoO:NorwayA:AgderM:4/4L:1/8K:Aef|:a2A2A2ce|a2A2A2Bc|d2dddfed|c2ee ecee|fdff fagf||e^dee fe=dc|BAGA eBAG|1A2A2 A2ef:|2A2A2 A4||:E2cccBcd|efdefde2|E2cccBcd|efdefdee|e^dee f=dBG|A2A2A4:||
Re: [scots-l] Re: Modal Tunes (but seriously)
> That's a case where a music education was a hindrance rather than an > advantage. Had the bassist learned the tune aurally it would not have > occurred to him to question whether it was in a minor key or dorian; it > should just have sounded "right." If it didn't, the further education > he'd need would be with his ears rather than his intellect. In my > opinion. Sometimes even when learnt aurally, problems arise: I played before in a band where the guitar player hadn't a traditional/folk music background but a pop/bossa/blues one and he used to play minor chords to dorian or even mixolydian tunes (we played a jig set, Scarce o'tatties/Slieve Russell/Calliope House, and until we reach the final Dmajor all the chords were minor, well, he actually thought that the set was made of two tunes!) I think that knowledge of modes help, it's not particularly difficult to understand and put in practice (here Jack's tutorial helped me a lot, thanks Jack); I agree with Nigel in that there's no need to know them to play them, the same that there's no need to know that a jig is in 6/8 to play it in good time nor to be able to read music to play a tune, but I also agree with Matt in the idea of one thing complementing the other. I've played many years with almost no theory knowledge, and the fact of learning a little of practical theory maybe didn't make me a better musician, but it helped me to understand some whys and hows of my playing. Cheers, Manuel Waldesco Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Folk in Angus
Hi everyone, We're moving somewhere in Scotland in a couple of months, and recent considerations have been Angus towns, mainly Brechin, Arbroath and Kirriemuir; Does anybody knows anything about these towns? How's the Trad Arts scene? We were in Brechin last weekend and the scenery was gorgeous, but I don't know about music there, I haven't found much information; Kirriemuir, on the contrary, seems to have a buoyant trad music activity, well, I don't know, any enlightning thoughts out there? Cheers, Manuel Waldesco Burntisland, Fife
Re: [scots-l] Ale Moller's cow horn
I have not seen him playing but I recall having seen cow and ram horns with holes (up to four?) in the context of Norwegian and Swedish music (old instruments, catalogues, albums...), in fact I think somebody sells them in the Internet. Cheers, Manuel Waldesco - Original Message - From: "Clifford Abrams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [scots-l] Ale Moller's cow horn > I have seen him play it. It appeared to be > "controlled" by mouth-shape rather than fingering > holes. It looked like the Jewish *shofar*, which is a > trumpet made from a ram's horn, and, similarly, has no > holes. > > CliffA > > Anybody seen him do this live? What sort of > instrument is it? > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > http://shopping.yahoo.com > Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html > Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
RE: [scots-l] Filska Tunes?
- Original Message - From: Steve Wyrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:15 AM Subject: [scots-l] Filska Tunes? > X:3 > T:Unknown Reel from Filska (Bunjie's Dilemma Set, tune #3) > C:unknown > S:http://www.shetland-music.com/mp3down.htm > Z:Steve Wyrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Z:Bunjie's Dilemma Set, Tune #3 > L:1/8 > Q:460 > M:C > R:Reel > K:Bm > de|fB (3BBB fa^ga|fB (3BBB efde|fB (3BBB defe|dfaf efde|! > fB (3BBB fa^ga|fB (3BBB efde|fB (3BBB defe|dfaf ef||! > |dc|d3e f3e|d2fd eA (3AAA|dcde fafe|defd edBA|! > d3e f3e|d2fd eA (3AAA|dA (3AAA fAeA|defd e2|| > This one is in Carlos Nuñez´s "Brotherhood of Stars", played with the Chieftains. Apparently here it is an Irish tune called "The Flight of the Earls", but I think I´ve heard it also with other names... Manuel Waldesco, Zaragoza Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Nordic Scotland
Hello there, Recently, (talking in months or so) I´ve seen an increment of Nordic traditional music in the Scottish music scene. Apart from long-standing conexions like those of Shetland and other nordic countries (from that old Aly Bain and BT ensemble album to the last collaboration with Swedish Ale Moller), things like the Nordic Nights of the Glasgow Celtic Connections or the Northlands festival in Thurso seem to point to a more broad movement in which Nordic music is approaching Atlantic/"Celtic" Music, well, that´s an impression, anyway. I´ve been a fan of Traditional and New Nordic Music for a few years, though I haven´t had the chance of meeting many Nordic music players and I wonder if is it there any one interested on the subject. If so, maybe we can meet and chat/make noise sometimes, from September onwards around the Edinburgh/East Fife area (if I survive the 40 degrees Spanish summer, anyway!) Cheers, Manuel Waldesco Zaragoza, Aragon Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Alan Lomax
From another list... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 2:28 AM Subject: Re: [folk] Ha muerto Alan Lomax In a message dated 07/19/2002 7:15:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:ALAN LOMAX 1915 - 2002FOLK MUSIC'S FOREMOST PIONEER & ETHNOMUSICOLOGIST DIESAlan Lomax passed away on the morning of July 19, 2002. Alan Lomax issurvived by his loving daughter Anna Lomax Chairetakis of Holiday, FL; hisdevoted grandson Odysseus Desmond Chairetakis of Holiday, FL; his sisterBess Lomax Hawes of Northridge, CA; his step-daughter Shelley Roitman ofHoliday, FL; his nephews; John Lomax III, Nicolas Hawes, John Bishop, DrewMihalik, and his nieces; Ellen Harold, Patricia Gordon, Susan Mihalik, NaomiBishop and Corey Dinos.Funeral Services for Alan Lomax Vinson Funeral Home456 East Tarpon AvenueTarpon Springs, FL 34689Services on Tuesday July 23, 2002Viewing from 3-5PM, Funeral Service 5-6PMIn lieu of flowers the family has asked that donations be made to:The Blues Music Foundation for the Willie Moore Fundc/o Experience Music Project2901 3rd AveSeattle, WA 98121http://www.alan-lomax.comFor more information, contact:Jeff Walker - [EMAIL PROTECTED] , or Ryan McMaken- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [scots-l] Re: Scots Music Quiz
- Original Message - From: "Nigel Gatherer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 8:57 AM Subject: [scots-l] Re: Scots Music Quiz > > Not at The Castle Arms, though - and don't call me Shirley. (The pub > where my Wednesday Slow Session has met for more than a year, and where > Derek's Tuesday session has met for a couple of months, suddenly closed > this week. :-( My lot immediately went down to The West End Hotel for a > quiet wee session. :-) I've asked if we can invade them weekly; the > owner is contemplating it. Watch this space.) > That's a pity, it was a good place, though not very popular with customers, it looks like! On the other hand, the West End has a great atmosphear, at least to me, it would be good if you can keep on there. Talking of sessions Nigel, we still have to meet sometime, lastly I'm going to the Tass on the Thursdays, not bad, if you can cope with a dose of Irish music (let's join forces to fight it! ;-) Cheers, Manuel Waldesco Edinburgh Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Re: Iomramh eadar Il'as Uist
- Original Message - From: "stan reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [scots-l] Re: Iomramh eadar Il'as Uist (...) The Ist beat is very pronounced and corresponds > with lifting the oars out and swinging them forward as you straighten your > arms and lean forward. 2 and 3 are the pulling stroke. Imagining this when > you are playing will give you the right tempo and a very primitive rythmic > chanted feel, rather than the twee parlour interpretations. Mmmm, that sounds nice, I wonder if this could be a starting point for some weird connections/directions in Scottish music... I mean, take that primitive feeling which echoes Sami drummed joiks (sorry, I've just returned from a short trip to Norway!:-), add some Tuva-like Columba singing (in John Purser rendition), carnyx, Hardanger-driven Shetland fiddling, Hebridean psalm singing... errr... well I suppose that's enough for now! (Now I just need to know where to put my old whistle in between all that stuff!) Cheers, Manuel Waldesco Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Few Notes
- Original Message - From: "Jack Campin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [scots-l] Few Notes > > The old version of Teribus in my modes tutorial (which I'm currently > updating) That's great! That tutorial is just fantastic, it helped me (and still does) a lot to understand many things around modes and scales in traditional music, congratulations for your work and I wait for the results of the new version! Manuel Waldesco Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Re: A Few Notes for Nigel
- Original Message - From: "Nigel Gatherer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:58 AM Subject: [scots-l] Re: A Few Notes for Nigel > > Hey, thanks Manuel! In the spirit of Niel Gow and William Marshall, I > offer the following: > > X:364 > T:Nigel's Compliments Returned to Manuel > C:Nigel Gatherer > Z:Nigel Gatherer Lovely tune! Thank you very much Nigel, we have to make a set out of these and tour the world! :-) Manuel Waldesco PD: Tomorrow Tuesday I'll probably be at the Castle Arms for the sessions, are you going to be in Edinburgh then? Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] A Few Notes for Nigel
Hi again! I've been looking for such few-notes-Scottish tunes and ... I haven't found any so, at the end, I've decided to write my own! (just a bit of fun) There you go: X:15 T:A Few Notes for Nigel R:jig C:Manuel W. Balaguer-Cortes Z:Manuel Waldesco M:6/8 L:1/8 K:G D2G BAG|E2D E2G|D2G BAG|A2B A3|D2G BAG|E2D E2G|BAG ABA|1 G3 GEG:|2 G3 BAG |:A2A EGE|A2A DEG|A2A BAG|A3 BAG|A2A EGE|A2A DEG|1 ABA GED|E3 BAG:|2 BAG ABA|G6| Manuel Waldesco, Edinburgh Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Few Notes
What about the "Blackberry Bush" reel? It would take longer to learn because it has 4 parts but it's also a pentatonic tune and sounds similar to this Irish polka. Another option would be "Harris Dance" though, in all cases, these are tunes which jump the octave, if you want tunes with just five notes in the same octave, well, I cannot think of any, sorry!(apart from the first part of the Blackberry Bush). If I find any, I'll let you know. Manuel Waldesco Edinburgh - Original Message - From: "Nigel Gatherer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Scots-L Posting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 2:52 PM Subject: [scots-l] Few Notes > I came across the Irish polka below, and what drew me to it was how few > notes are used in the tune (five in all). I'm trying to find Scottish > tunes which use as few notes, for use in teaching complete beginners. > Any suggestions? > > X:1 > T:no name > R:polka > H:Also in A, #111 > D:Martin O'Connor: The Connachtman's Rambles > Z:id:hn-polka-113 > M:2/4 > L:1/8 > K:G > B2 B>A|GE ED|EA AB/A/|GE ED|B2 B>A|GE ED|EG AB/A/|G2 GA:| > BA AG|BA AG|A2 AB/A/|GE ED|BA AG|BA AG|A2 AB/A/|G2 GA:| > > -- > Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/gatherer/ > > Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html > Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Castle Arms sessions
- Original Message - From: "Derek Hoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [scots-l] Castle Arms sessions > Manuel asked: > > Well, the thing is I was wondering if there's a continuity in the > > sessions, ,even now that the term is over. If that's the case, which > > date would it be? Tuesdays again? > > I know some folk are going tonight. > > Och! You're right, ,I was there tonight but with no instruments! I'll have to try another time, anyway, if you or other folk plan anything, please, let me know it. Manuel Waldesco Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Castle Arms sessions
Hi there, everybody, and those specially living in/around Edinburgh: last Tuesday part of the ALP Scots Music Group people were in the Castle Arms in a crowded session (Hi Nigel, Derek and other peole who were there and maybe are here), which I enjoyed quite a lot (though most of the tunes I couldn't play, we...). Well, the thing is I was wondering if there's a continuity in the sessions, ,even now that the term is over. If that's the case, which date would it be? Tuesdays again? Anyway, those of you who know, please, drop a line, I'd like to go back again and blow a couple a tunes. Cheers, Manuel Waldesco, Edinburgh
[scots-l] Iomramh eadar Il'as Uist
Hi there, I'm looking for some background to this Gaelic tune; all that I know is that it appears in the Simon Fraser Collection and, presumebly, given its title, would have been a song used for keeping the rythm while rowing (in those days with not many causeways!). Any facts or ideas? Cheers, Manuel Waldesco Edinburgh
Re: [scots-l] Border Gaitherin - Coldstream 2002 - May 4-6th
Mmm, sounds good, still, it's a pity that both the Gaitherin and the Feis Rois are in the same dates: I was thinking about going to both, which, given my lack of ubiquity, has turned to be impossible. Anyway, I wonder if anybody out there could post their opinions on the whistle tutors of both festivals: the couple Claire Mann and Lillies Kinsman Blake, and in the other hand, Annie grace who will be doing the thing in Ullapool. Another story, do you know if the Gaitherin can provide instruments for the classes? (I'm thinking of Clarsachs) Cheers, Manuel Waldesco Edinburgh Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Celtic Connections workshops
Hi there, Anyone has information about this year's workshops in Glasgow? I know it's during the festival weekends but I don't have the list of instruments, tutors, etc... so, if someone out there knows it, please, let me know it. Thanks Manuel Waldesco, Edinburgh.
Re: [scots-l] Celtic Connections workshops
- Original Message - From: "Nigel Gatherer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:45 AM Subject: [scots-l] Celtic Connections workshops > Manuel asked: > > > ...information about this year's workshops in Glasgow? > > There are leaflets at ALP, so if you're there tonight you can pick one > up. Ok, I'll check it on Thursday (I still don't know if I'm going to attend the classes on Wed) The ones you'd be interested in are: > > Learn to Play the Small Pipes in a Day > Dave Shaw 19/1, 20/1, 2/2, 3/2, 11am-5pm > Mmmm, I think I'd rather prefer learning the pipes in a term. > Whisky Tasting Workshop > 20/1, 2-3.30 > Sounds good and tastes better! > Low Whistle > Misha Somerville 2/2 11-12.30 > Well, ,that's interesting but I don't know much about the teacher... I will think about it > Make Your Own Celtic Animals > 19/1 11-12.30 > Errr > I can't see a web site mentioned on the leaflet. Their claim "mastering > the small pipes in a day" is preposterous - everyone knows it takes at > least a week to master any form of bagpipe. > Ha ha ha, in fact learning the pipes takes a lot of time, as they say in Aragon, a piper spends half of his life tuning his instrument, and the other half playing out of tune! > -- Manuel Waldesco, Edinburgh Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
RE: [scots-l] Aragon tune
Manuel Waldesco - Original Message - From: John Erdman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 11:07 PM Subject: [scots-l] Aragon tune > Manuel - > Now that's a happy tune!. I knowing nothing of the Aragonese > traditions but my ear tells me the D's ought to be flatted making it > the key of Ab rather than Cm. (And the meter as 4/4 rather than > 6/8). Do you stand by your original or might this be more like the > tune should sound? > Hi John I think this is still the Misleading Tune, that's to say, the one Nigel posted and I wrongly paste instead of the actual Aragonese tune (the last I sent, starting on g) Sorry! Manuel Waldesco Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
RE: [scots-l] The misleading tune
- Original Message - From: Steve Wyrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [scots-l] The misleading tune > > Manuel, the tune you sent was the same one Nigel posted, with a different > key signature! Was that what you meant to do? > -- Ops! Now I realize I had some problems with the cut and paste! You're right, I just copied the body of the tune but deleted the melody, putting instead Nigel's one. Anyway, this time there we go the Spanish tune (I hope!). Thanks T: Tatero O: Aragon L:1/8 M:6/8 K:Cmin g2f|:ede fef|gfg a2g|fef agf|1g2e g2f:|2e3g2f| |:ede fef|gfg a2g|fef agf|1g2e g2f:|2e3c2c| |:cBB BAA|A2G2 GG |AAA BBB|1d2c2cc:|2c3c2c |:cBB BAA|A2G2 GG|AAA BBB|1d2c2cc:|2c6 Manuel Waldesco Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
RE: [scots-l] The misleading tune
- Original Message - From: Steve Wyrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [scots-l] Reel ID Please > > > > > >> T: Tatero > >> O: Aragon > > > > [Snip] > > > > ??? > > So Jimmy took his vacations in Aragon? Well, I don't think so but, who knows... Anyway, I probably caused some misunderstanding sending the tune with the subject "Reel ID"; my intention wasn't to answer to the Reel ID question - which, unfortunately, I don't know - but to partake of the tune sharing fenomenon with a totally different tune from another tradition (you know, just to give an exotic flavour! ;-) Cheers from the Ebro valley, Manuel Waldesco Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
RE: [scots-l] Reel ID Please
- Original Message - From: Nigel Gatherer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [scots-l] Reel ID Please > > Also I like to share tunes. > > -- Ok then, let's introduce another sort of musical tradition, there you go an Aragonese tune! T: Tatero O: Aragon L:1/8 M:6/8 K:Cmin E2|A2 cB A2 ce|fefg a2 af|e2 c2 dcBA c2 B2 B2 cB| A2 cB A2 ce|fefg a2 af|eagf edcB|c2 A2 A2|| e2|a2 ed cB A2|dcde f3 e|a2 e2 efec|d2 B2 B3 e| a2 ed cB A2|dcde f3 d|eagf edcB|c2 A2 A2|] Manuel Waldesco Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
RE: [scots-l] Stock and horn
- Original Message - From: Jack Campin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:24 AM Subject: Re: [scots-l] Stock and horn > I heard Robin Huw Bowen and a couple of pals playing these at the > Edinburgh Harp Festival a while ago. So somebody in Wales makes > them (I think Robin told a story about getting his made, the maker > was remarkably eccentric). They sounded more like the Turkish mey > than a bombarde, i.e. a bit softer and more clarinet-like. The > Welsh word is "pibgorn". > I think John Tose is making pibgorn, apart from new "Welsh" bagpipes. Anyway, that instrument would be part of the same family - hornpipes - but not a proper stock-and-horn. Another alternative is to buy a "alboka" whis is the Basque one, having two melody-pipes and played, like most hornpipes, with circular breathing. The "Turkish" sound it's caused by the kind of reed used, a single-reed. The stock-and-horn I guess would sound different, a bit louder having a double reed but not so much, having a cylindrical bore of relative lenght. Anyway, it would be interesting to hear of someone making these old instruments again. Manuel Waldesco Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
RE: [scots-l] Re: Session tunes
- Original Message - From: Nigel Gatherer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Scots-L Posting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [scots-l] Re: Session tunes > David Francis wrote: > > > For anyone on this list within striking distancethe Adult > > Learning Project's new programme is now available in printed form, > > and should be going on the web site before long... > > It's up already, Dave, thanks to a wonderful web designer whose name > escapes me. Nigel Something or other. > > http://www.alpscotsmusic.org/ > > Mixed instrument classes are at > > http://www.alpscotsmusic.org/mixed.html > > -- At last I found it! Well, my problem was that I cannott read that part of the site with my browser; I mean, this is the only one, the rest are seen perfectly. What I have done is to read it raw in html; I don't know why this happens, maybe it's the browser or something written in the html format, it would be useful to know if other people can read it normally. Anyway, having looked at the classes, maybe I will try with Munro's one, it also helps that he's tutoring whistle, of course. Thanks Manuel Waldesco Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
RE: [scots-l] Re: Session tunes
- Original Message - From: David Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Scots-L Posting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 12:25 PM Subject: [scots-l] Re: Session tunes > For anyone on this list within striking distancethe Adult Learning > Project's new programme is now available in printed form, and should be > going on the web site before long. IIRC there will be a harmony and > arrangement class in the second term, so that might suit Manuel. .. Thanks for the information, nevertheless, I'm not sure if I will be in Scotland in January; my idea is to attend first term, I will come to Edinburgh the 22th of this month, so maybe I go directly into the class on tuesday! Manuel Waldesco Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
RE: [scots-l] Session Tunes
- Original Message - From: Nigel Gatherer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [scots-l] Session Tunes (...) > > I have also started a mixed instrument class which is specifically for > learning tunes and buliding up a repertoire. (...) Hi, Nigel, by the way, which are the mixed instrument classes this year? I've been looking to the web page but there wasn't any information. Is there any class relating to band arrangements or so? Thanks, Manuel Waldesco Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
RE: [scots-l] Tin Whistle Bands
- Original Message - From: Stuart Eydmann To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 1:28 AM Subject: Re: [scots-l] Tin Whistle Bands The histories of the penny whistle and flute bands in Scotland have still to be written. I'd be very interested in any further refrences to Scotland. - Well, me too, not only of bands but also of the history of the instrument: until know I've just seen some instruments in the Reid Collection (London-made whistles ranging from Bb to G, I think) and the "medieval" pennywhistle found in excavations in North Berwick. It would be interesting to know more old whistle makers in Scotland and England apart from the well known Rober Clarke. Anyway, many thanks for the information, Manuel Waldesco
RE: [scots-l] Scarce o' tatties
No idea, but I guess you can always use it (play it) as long as you mention its author, Norman MacLean, though I don't really know all this legal stuff, anyway. Manuel Waldesco - Original Message - From: wayne&renee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: scot list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 2:52 AM Subject: [scots-l] Scarce o' tatties > Does anyone know it Scarce o' Tatties is a public domain tune, or is there a > copyright on it? > thanks Wayne > > Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html > Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Tin Whistle Bands
Hello there, I'm doing from time to time some research on pennywhistle history, and I came once to one reference to a Tin Whistle Band in Glasgow, in the book "Voices from the War" Grace Kennedy says: “(...)But I remember the Boilermakers’ Tin Whistle Band going round Govan during the boilermakers’ lock-out or strike in 1910.” (Voices from War, p. 40) Does anyone knows any more about these bands, history, characteristics, etc? Thanks in advance Manuel Waldesco
