Re: Using Solar to Make CS
Darryl. I am coming to OZ in a few monthsI would like to meet you Cisco Darryl wrote: Darryl, So you been to Guam...eh and it is just like Downtown LA!your a MORONdid you see a Radio Shack?. Better than that about 40 electronic stores in one street, and Continental and other US carriers are daily ... a UPS parcel would be there in 24 hours, you could even get things there quicker from Australia ! How bout...$1.79 per gallon US We pay near double that in Australia, and manage to get by OK ...how about $5.00 per gallon of Milk$6.00 per pound for good meat, and $3.00 for a good apple(one)...ever try to get a part for your Rife machine here? or have you ever tried to get .999 Silver here I could get it to you in 24 hours. eh how about a transistor for your output circuit or a simple probe for your Oscope.how bout an average income of $5.50 per hourdid you also see 35% unemployed.have you been to YAP, Saipan, Majuro, Chuuk, Phonipe, Maug Islands, Peleau. Guam yes Yap yes Truk yes Saipan yes how about Indoneasia... It is spelt Indonesia and I speak fluent Indonesian Apa Kabar Cisco Kenapa kamu di Guam? Untuk apa kamu mara mara ke saya ? Kenapa kamu hanya bohong disini ? Monkin kamu hanya marbok lagi? hey that is cool place, people gettin killed for not liking the government... they did not get killed for not liking the government ...they died while they were looting and other looters set fire to the shops. .and 3500 per year die from Maleriaand 2000 from TB its a big country tourists go. yes I have been to most parts regularly did ya see the pain in the childrens eyes or the elderly dying with no hope... No not once ...you must be talking about another country ?? did you do more than drink beer I do not drink and walk around spending yer moneyhow about it...what did you look for...what did you see and what did you dodid you seek the actual people back from what yer allowed to see as a tourist I have never known of any area in Indonesia off bounds to anyone? or did you play tourist No I make regular trips to all parts of Indonesia Guam aint to bad No its more like a regular state of the USA but it aint Indonesia nor is it Papua New Guinea.but have you really lookedhave you really tried to seeI doubt ityer a selfcentered person as I said beforeyou see what you want and you have all the answersgo into politicsyou fit the moldno insight, little fortitude, and no visionhey Clinton could use you as a friend.no GRIT! Well seems like you want to just abuse me for trying to tell people they can easily make C/S with a $20.00 Solar panel. Darryyll Darryl wrote: Well Cisco I know you don't want to reply to my emails anymore, or simply will not ...but you must understand when you give out such authoritative advise over such a wide range of things, if no one else is prepared to tackle you when you are wrong again, there is always me. Here we find that you are advising people to spend US $450.00 plus to do a job that only $20.00 or $30.00 can easily do, in this case I am talking about Australian Dollars nearly half what you would spend with US dollars in your remote site at Guam! Sorry folks about the exclamation mark, but I have been to Guam on many occasions and it is not any more remote than downtown LA, and very little, if at all more expensive. Cisco you have to understand that making C/S is possible with a few 9 volt batteries in series, or for those with only a modicum of electronic expertise, a simple voltage multiplier will pump 9 volts to 30 volts from a single 9 volt battery either way a dollar investment in the less than $ 30.00 dollars Australian or even less than $20.00 US . for a suitable solar panel to do the same thing $20.00 Australian dollars will easily do it. You see current required is only about 10 milli amps in a well designed circuit to generate the best quality C/S this can be done with the cheapest of Solar Panels ...even putting out as low as 4.5 volts, and a suitable voltage pump will still be in the less than $20.00 [ Australian ]I think you have confused what you need to charge your batteries in your boat that goes to all the outer islands , with making C/S, which is a far easier task. I have done my best to say this as politely as possible, if I am considered to be still uncivil by the above then I would ask those reading this to consider that I too came to this list learn and contribute, when stuff is real wrong and newcomers have come to learn then what is the value of having some one who can contribute sitting back and saying well this stuff is very wrong, and it is going to mislead a lot of people, but I am hamstrung by the need to apologise for
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
Darryl, So you been to Guam...eh and it is just like Downtown LA!your a MORONdid you see a Radio Shack?.How bout...$1.79 per gallon US Low Leadhow about $5.00 per gallon of Milk$6.00 per pound for good meat, and $3.00 for a good apple(one)...ever try to get a part for your Rife machine here? or have you ever tried to get .999 Silver hereeh how about a transistor for your output circuit or a simple probe for your Oscope.how bout an average income of $5.50 per hourdid you also see 35% unemployed.have you been to YAP, Saipan, Majuro, Chuuk, Phonipe, Maug Islands, Peleau.how about Indoneasia...hey that is cool place, people gettin killed for not liking the governmentand 3500 per year die from Maleriaand 2000 from TBdid you go to that part of the Islands or just the part where tourists go.did ya see the pain in the childrens eyes or the elderly dying with no hopedid you do more than drink beer and walk around spending yer moneyhow about it...what did you look for...what did you see and what did you dodid you seek the actual people back from what yer allowed to see as a tourist or did you play tourist Guam aint to badbut it aint Indonesia nor is it Papua New Guinea.but have you really lookedhave you really tried to seeI doubt ityer a selfcentered person as I said beforeyou see what you want and you have all the answersgo into politicsyou fit the moldno insight, little fortitude, and no visionhey Clinton could use you as a friend.no GRIT! Cisco Darryl wrote: Well Cisco I know you don't want to reply to my emails anymore, or simply will not ...but you must understand when you give out such authoritative advise over such a wide range of things, if no one else is prepared to tackle you when you are wrong again, there is always me. Here we find that you are advising people to spend US $450.00 plus to do a job that only $20.00 or $30.00 can easily do, in this case I am talking about Australian Dollars nearly half what you would spend with US dollars in your remote site at Guam! Sorry folks about the exclamation mark, but I have been to Guam on many occasions and it is not any more remote than downtown LA, and very little, if at all more expensive. Cisco you have to understand that making C/S is possible with a few 9 volt batteries in series, or for those with only a modicum of electronic expertise, a simple voltage multiplier will pump 9 volts to 30 volts from a single 9 volt battery either way a dollar investment in the less than $ 30.00 dollars Australian or even less than $20.00 US . for a suitable solar panel to do the same thing $20.00 Australian dollars will easily do it. You see current required is only about 10 milli amps in a well designed circuit to generate the best quality C/S this can be done with the cheapest of Solar Panels ...even putting out as low as 4.5 volts, and a suitable voltage pump will still be in the less than $20.00 [ Australian ]I think you have confused what you need to charge your batteries in your boat that goes to all the outer islands , with making C/S, which is a far easier task. I have done my best to say this as politely as possible, if I am considered to be still uncivil by the above then I would ask those reading this to consider that I too came to this list learn and contribute, when stuff is real wrong and newcomers have come to learn then what is the value of having some one who can contribute sitting back and saying well this stuff is very wrong, and it is going to mislead a lot of people, but I am hamstrung by the need to apologise for a contrary or even corrective view, so much that it is better to tolerate totally wrong stuff than speak up! Guess I have to take my chance again or just simply leave here, but some things remain certain, there is no such thing as distilled water being dead , and putting C/S into the soil is the surest way possible of killing the beneficial microbes needed to convert nutrients to plant available nutrients, and if all this is too much to believe, you definitely do not need a $450 US dollar solar panel to generate 10 milli amps to make the best possible C/S. I know there are more than a few equally competent electronic people here reading this stuff who can totally corroborate my latest input I hope they speak up this time. Darryyll YO!, This unit would run one of those toy fans ya put in yer hatdont even go therethat is a hour rating.it wont even charge a 9vdc battery.the unit I have described we use for full solar power to maintain our life styleno $20 unit is gonna produce the power you need.look further into itit is not so simple. I use 3 Solar panels to charge ONE bank of batteries.they are 2 X 4 feet in diamention.this wont do the trickgood thought but not the one it will take to
Re: silver-digest Digest V98 #143
Every time I download one of these files and try to read it there is a problem about not all the files being there or something. this happens with other downloads also not just this one. I don't know what it is that is wrong but it is OK. I just need to UN-Subscribe to the Digest version of the silver-list. Thanks- I tried jerry w -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Memorial Day
To all, To those who have before us and to those that will follow...God Bless. Less we forget those who have given their all to protect our right to be wrong..Remember them. Never forget. Cisco -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
YO!, This unit would run one of those toy fans ya put in yer hatdont even go therethat is a hour rating.it wont even charge a 9vdc battery.the unit I have described we use for full solar power to maintain our life styleno $20 unit is gonna produce the power you need.look further into itit is not so simple. I use 3 Solar panels to charge ONE bank of batteries.they are 2 X 4 feet in diamention.this wont do the trickgood thought but not the one it will take to make silver. Cisco It's not me wrote: Nancy, Here's a company that sells a fairly cheap solar panel that puts out 12 V, 166 ma. I don't know if 3 would put out enough juice to run your machine or not, but they are about $20.00 each. Let us know if you try it and it works. http://www.sciplus.com/cgi-bin/basket/892105184.47/wired/26325.html -Original Message- From: Nancy B. silverwo...@bigfoot.com To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, May 24, 1998 4:32 PM Subject: Using Solar to Make CS Repost: did this go through the first time? I haven't seen it. Colloidal silver made with solar energy Has this topic come up before? I'd like to know how feasible it would be to convert a 27 volt battery powered or 24 ac to dc powered CS generator to solar (perhaps interchangeable). I use the simple homemade generator with two silver wires attached to the electric source (a 24 volt ac to dc generator concealed in a plastic box) by alligator clips and wire, with an external light bulb I ignore most of the time. I know Radio Shack sells little solar gizmos but how much voltage can you get out of them? Is it feasible to make colloidal silver this way in the event of a black out (for whatever reason: you ran out of batteries, ran into hurricanes, tornadoes, Y2Ks, you didn't pay your electric bill, you ran away,...) ÜÜÜ I really don't want to be without this stuff for more than a few days at a time. I like it so much better than antibiotics, and it may be the only thing that works if the antibiotic crisis (bacterial resistance) continues as it has been. Sincerely, Nancy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS and digestive bacteria
I've had that problem when taking CS orally. I just take a capsule or two of Acidophilus (8 Billion count each) daily. I get 120 caps for about 13.75 American, so it works out to about 11 to 22 cents per day depending on how much I take. I also eat yogurt regularly. The liquid acidophlus is supposed to be better and if you don't swallow the CS you don't have the problem with it possabally killing of the good bacteria. Just swish it around in the mouth for 2-3 minutes. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
MS
Reid; You stated that you would have some information on m.s. soon. Have you posted it yet? If so where ? Thanks, Peter Koziol Sorry I've been to tired here the past two days to get it scanned in BUT I'll try and get it done today and send it to you when it's finished. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re:Making yogurt
Buy a half gallon of milk. Bring it almost to a boil. Cool it to the point that you can easily put your hands in the pot. Put starter yogurt in the milk container. Add the warm milk. Fill a playmate cooler with body temp water(run your wrist under the water like you do for a baby's bottle). Put the milk container in the cooler. Close the lid and let it sit overnight. Voila! half gal yogurt Deb -- Debbie McDonald mailto:lullw...@flash.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
new drugs
Hi list, Some new humor on this grand holiday. Enjoy. Subject: Viagra Date: Fri,8 May 1998 02:34:31 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) With Viagra such a hit, Pfizer Labs is bringing forth a whole line of drugs oriented towards improving the performance of men in today`s society DIRECTRA - A dose of this drug given to men before leaving on a car trip caused 72% of them to stop and ask directions when they got lost,compared to a control group of 0.2 percent. PROJECTRA - Men given this experimental new drug were far more likely to actually finish a household repair project before starting a new one. CHILDAGRA - Men taking this drug reported a sudden over-whelming urge to perform more child-care tasks, especially cleaning up spills and little accidents. COMLIMENTRA - In clinical trials, 82% of middle-aged men administered this drug noticed that their wives had a new hairstyle. Currently being tested to see if its effects extend to noticing new clothing. BUYAGRA - Married and otherwise attached men reported a sudden urge to buy their sweeties expensive jewelry and gifts after taking this drug for only two days. Still to be seen: Whether the drug can be continued for a period longer than the store`s return policy limit. NEGA-VIAGRA - Has the opposite effect of Viagra. Currently undergoing clinical trials on over sexed politicians. NEGA-SPORTAGRA - This drug had the strange effect of making men want to turn off televised sports and converse with other family members about current events and family things. FLATULAGRA - This complex drug converts a person`s noxious intestinal gases back into food solids. Special effect is it can be overdosed for long car trips. A problem side effect is the occurance of constipation in some people. FLYAGRA - This drug has been showing great promise in treating men with OFD (open fly disorder). Especially useful for men on Viagra and other treatments for memory loss. PRYAGRA - About to fail its clinical trial, this drug gave men in the test group an irresistable urge to dig into the personal sffairs of other people. An apparent over-dose turned three test subjects into special prosecutors and some into peeping toms. LIAGRA - This drug causes some people to be less than truthful when being asked about their sexual affairs. Women seem to be more sensitive to it than men. Comes in three strengths,Regular, Strong and Presidential. Bless you all, Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
An observation and a comment
Observation:It seems to me that the $450 solar panel was to recharge the batteries and not to directly make the silver from the energy from the panels but rather make the silver using the batteries that where charged from the panels But I could be wrong... A comment:Could both of you boys take your pissing contest off line [Asbestos suit on - flame away!] Carl -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
off-topic Wondering?
Hi All! I was wondering if anyone knew the address to a newsgroup that deals specifically with herbs, or herbs and alternative medicine? Thanks in advance for any help Robert -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS and digestive bacteria
Frank Matzka wrote: There has been some talk of taking oral CS may disrupt the good bacteria we all have in our digestive systems. Now that I'll be taking CS fairly regularly I figured that to counteract any decline in the good bugs, that I would counteract by eating some live yoghurt every day. Also there recently came on the market here in South Australia a product called Yakult which has live Lactobacillus casei Shirota strain. I have no idea how good this stuff is but if you believe the brochures it is just the stuff for re establishing a healthy intestinal population. Any thoughts on the my theory ? Also do we have any expert yoghurt makers out there? This Yakult stuff is about 70c for a small daily dose bottle (30 mls) and if anybody is familiar with it or it's making I'd like to try to cultivate my own. Thanks in advance. Regards...Frank Dear Frank, I`ve been taking CS for over 2 years now, and have had no intestinal problems at all. I don`t take yogurt or extra bugs. I read somewhere that CS is absorbed completely before it gets to the intestine, and thus spares the intestinal flora. Those who have a colon infection have to take CS the other direction. I wonder if the good bugs are so-called as they do no harm, perhaps CS does kill `em, and we just don`t need them. Who`s to know? Best wishes, Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
Darryl. I am coming to OZ in a few monthsI would like to meet you Cisco You are more than welcome in biker mode if you prefer... in a quest for knowledge... or as a seeker of truth... up to you old son ? Darryyll -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
Darryl, I am gonna be niceOK... I am not gonna say exactly what I feel...it is gonna be hard but eh that is ok. Well I am glad you are being nice! I been at this since 1974I have gone to more countries than you can spell Don't bet your life on that, anyway Cisco that is not a qualification for advising people to spend $450.00 plus to make C/S as you did in earlier post ...plus you criticised someone else who quite rightly found it could be done for $20.oo buckspeople are interested in making C/S not charging yacht batteries ... I will wait on what others have to say about your advise. I deal with more people than will ever enter your limited life. Basically I have forgotten more then you know about Rife and CS! Now remember I pledged not to get into this nasty stuff ...and I won't. I have BSME from San Diego State University, and I hold a Master Journeyman Milwright card, a Master Welder Card, a Master Hydroilics/Pnuematics Card. I wrote the Clayton Journalsand I have built and designed (helped) three new types of Rife units as well as three different types of CS makers.. I deal with three countries, 15 islands and 3000 people and you pass gas...I am just a ex-Marine trying to help people not insult them, and I dont claim to be no masiahas you do. I do not think I insulted you I just said you were wrong, and your advice was wrong about the need to spend $450.00 US dollars to get a solar panel to make C/S , finding out when people are wrong is the normal way people learn. My work along with 45 others reaches into villages where people dont know what a computer isyer wrong againcause you dont READ what people sayPERIOD. cisco when I ask you for names you can not supply them ...so who are the 45 other people ??? Where are these villages? When do you get time to visit them in your boat, as you seem to spend all your time on it, or the Internet ? We are talking about building a BATTERY CHARGING SYSTEM and the toy unit described will not do the deedPERIOD. Why do you need a battery charger to make C/S ? as I said this is more suited to charging a boat battery than people here would need to make C/S One is needed which will sustain because the sun dont always shinecourse that is not what you read is it? Then it that case a very small rechargeable battery [ about another $10.00 ] can be charged by the solar panel costing no more than $20.00 when it is not making C/S. You can make at least 200 shots of 5 ppm in 250ml on a simple cheap 9 volt battery, say another $10.00 for a rechargeable 9 volt battery. This person didnt want to run out of CSI am telling people how not to go withoutyou dont know what yer talking about againI have to make 15 gallons per week to help people from my own home.. From your home or yacht? I guess you can say that too I have people coming from the Rife List to see what I do they will know when they leave I am no liar.what exactly do you do besides judge? Try to make sense of stuff! For some reason you feel your a cybercop who has his own ideas and can tell the world they dont know what they are talking aboutso tell me oh wise onegive us the benefit of your actual field workwhere have you gone, what place, what islandwho have you helped, tell us the general location, and where is your actual work being done... because I dont offer up our people to you like sheep so their government can kill them makes me the foolwrong again. I dont offer up people to prove pointsI dont sacrifice my people to serve little peoples needs...I worked for years to build trustI dont lie nor will I risk my people for your little demeaning BS.I ask once you stop bothering meyou dont have the expertise to do itnow I am not telling you leave me alone, I am demanding it. Well you said you would not respond to me anyway ... I am putting up stuff for others to gain from, not trying to knock you down . I think you should acknowledge you actually could be wrong about something's...even learn from here ...even learn from me I am no cybercop, or intellectual, but why should I stay quite when something's here are misguiding people let others fully investigate the three points I have contributed to date. A THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS DISTILLED WATER BEING DEAD WATER. B ADDING C/S TO THE SOIL WILL KILL ALL THE BENEFICIAL SOIL MICROBES. C A $20.00 SOLAR PANEL WILL PROVIDE ENOUGH MILLI AMPS TO MAKE UP C/S I live on a sail boat where we are required to charge our batteries by Solar and Wind Generators. I have built 9 Solar CS/Generators and personally deivered those systems to people who dont even speak english...and couldnt make them work had we not shown thembut we dont charge for our help and we dont belittle people for not having YOUR education and ability to do nothing and insult all.sorry Holmes I dont like you and I dont think your worth
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
Darryl, So you been to Guam...eh and it is just like Downtown LA!your a MORONdid you see a Radio Shack?. Better than that about 40 electronic stores in one street, and Continental and other US carriers are daily ... a UPS parcel would be there in 24 hours, you could even get things there quicker from Australia ! How bout...$1.79 per gallon US We pay near double that in Australia, and manage to get by OK ...how about $5.00 per gallon of Milk$6.00 per pound for good meat, and $3.00 for a good apple(one)...ever try to get a part for your Rife machine here? or have you ever tried to get .999 Silver here I could get it to you in 24 hours. eh how about a transistor for your output circuit or a simple probe for your Oscope.how bout an average income of $5.50 per hourdid you also see 35% unemployed.have you been to YAP, Saipan, Majuro, Chuuk, Phonipe, Maug Islands, Peleau. Guam yes Yap yes Truk yes Saipan yes how about Indoneasia... It is spelt Indonesia and I speak fluent Indonesian Apa Kabar Cisco Kenapa kamu di Guam? Untuk apa kamu mara mara ke saya ? Kenapa kamu hanya bohong disini ? Monkin kamu hanya marbok lagi? hey that is cool place, people gettin killed for not liking the government... they did not get killed for not liking the government ...they died while they were looting and other looters set fire to the shops. .and 3500 per year die from Maleriaand 2000 from TB its a big country tourists go. yes I have been to most parts regularly did ya see the pain in the childrens eyes or the elderly dying with no hope... No not once ...you must be talking about another country ?? did you do more than drink beer I do not drink and walk around spending yer moneyhow about it...what did you look for...what did you see and what did you dodid you seek the actual people back from what yer allowed to see as a tourist I have never known of any area in Indonesia off bounds to anyone? or did you play tourist No I make regular trips to all parts of Indonesia Guam aint to bad No its more like a regular state of the USA but it aint Indonesia nor is it Papua New Guinea.but have you really lookedhave you really tried to seeI doubt ityer a selfcentered person as I said beforeyou see what you want and you have all the answersgo into politicsyou fit the moldno insight, little fortitude, and no visionhey Clinton could use you as a friend.no GRIT! Well seems like you want to just abuse me for trying to tell people they can easily make C/S with a $20.00 Solar panel. Darryyll Darryl wrote: Well Cisco I know you don't want to reply to my emails anymore, or simply will not ...but you must understand when you give out such authoritative advise over such a wide range of things, if no one else is prepared to tackle you when you are wrong again, there is always me. Here we find that you are advising people to spend US $450.00 plus to do a job that only $20.00 or $30.00 can easily do, in this case I am talking about Australian Dollars nearly half what you would spend with US dollars in your remote site at Guam! Sorry folks about the exclamation mark, but I have been to Guam on many occasions and it is not any more remote than downtown LA, and very little, if at all more expensive. Cisco you have to understand that making C/S is possible with a few 9 volt batteries in series, or for those with only a modicum of electronic expertise, a simple voltage multiplier will pump 9 volts to 30 volts from a single 9 volt battery either way a dollar investment in the less than $ 30.00 dollars Australian or even less than $20.00 US . for a suitable solar panel to do the same thing $20.00 Australian dollars will easily do it. You see current required is only about 10 milli amps in a well designed circuit to generate the best quality C/S this can be done with the cheapest of Solar Panels ...even putting out as low as 4.5 volts, and a suitable voltage pump will still be in the less than $20.00 [ Australian ]I think you have confused what you need to charge your batteries in your boat that goes to all the outer islands , with making C/S, which is a far easier task. I have done my best to say this as politely as possible, if I am considered to be still uncivil by the above then I would ask those reading this to consider that I too came to this list learn and contribute, when stuff is real wrong and newcomers have come to learn then what is the value of having some one who can contribute sitting back and saying well this stuff is very wrong, and it is going to mislead a lot of people, but I am hamstrung by the need to apologise for a contrary or even corrective view, so much that it is better to tolerate totally wrong stuff than speak up! Guess I have to take my chance again or just simply leave here, but some things remain
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
Well Cisco I know you don't want to reply to my emails anymore, or simply will not ...but you must understand when you give out such authoritative advise over such a wide range of things, if no one else is prepared to tackle you when you are wrong again, there is always me. Here we find that you are advising people to spend US $450.00 plus to do a job that only $20.00 or $30.00 can easily do, in this case I am talking about Australian Dollars nearly half what you would spend with US dollars in your remote site at Guam! Sorry folks about the exclamation mark, but I have been to Guam on many occasions and it is not any more remote than downtown LA, and very little, if at all more expensive. Cisco you have to understand that making C/S is possible with a few 9 volt batteries in series, or for those with only a modicum of electronic expertise, a simple voltage multiplier will pump 9 volts to 30 volts from a single 9 volt battery either way a dollar investment in the less than $ 30.00 dollars Australian or even less than $20.00 US . for a suitable solar panel to do the same thing $20.00 Australian dollars will easily do it. You see current required is only about 10 milli amps in a well designed circuit to generate the best quality C/S this can be done with the cheapest of Solar Panels ...even putting out as low as 4.5 volts, and a suitable voltage pump will still be in the less than $20.00 [ Australian ]I think you have confused what you need to charge your batteries in your boat that goes to all the outer islands , with making C/S, which is a far easier task. I have done my best to say this as politely as possible, if I am considered to be still uncivil by the above then I would ask those reading this to consider that I too came to this list learn and contribute, when stuff is real wrong and newcomers have come to learn then what is the value of having some one who can contribute sitting back and saying well this stuff is very wrong, and it is going to mislead a lot of people, but I am hamstrung by the need to apologise for a contrary or even corrective view, so much that it is better to tolerate totally wrong stuff than speak up! Guess I have to take my chance again or just simply leave here, but some things remain certain, there is no such thing as distilled water being dead , and putting C/S into the soil is the surest way possible of killing the beneficial microbes needed to convert nutrients to plant available nutrients, and if all this is too much to believe, you definitely do not need a $450 US dollar solar panel to generate 10 milli amps to make the best possible C/S. I know there are more than a few equally competent electronic people here reading this stuff who can totally corroborate my latest input I hope they speak up this time. Darryyll YO!, This unit would run one of those toy fans ya put in yer hatdont even go therethat is a hour rating.it wont even charge a 9vdc battery.the unit I have described we use for full solar power to maintain our life styleno $20 unit is gonna produce the power you need.look further into itit is not so simple. I use 3 Solar panels to charge ONE bank of batteries.they are 2 X 4 feet in diamention.this wont do the trickgood thought but not the one it will take to make silver. Cisco It's not me wrote: Nancy, Here's a company that sells a fairly cheap solar panel that puts out 12 V, 166 ma. I don't know if 3 would put out enough juice to run your machine or not, but they are about $20.00 each. Let us know if you try it and it works. http://www.sciplus.com/cgi-bin/basket/892105184.47/wired/26325.html -Original Message- From: Nancy B. silverwo...@bigfoot.com To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, May 24, 1998 4:32 PM Subject: Using Solar to Make CS Repost: did this go through the first time? I haven't seen it. Colloidal silver made with solar energy Has this topic come up before? I'd like to know how feasible it would be to convert a 27 volt battery powered or 24 ac to dc powered CS generator to solar (perhaps interchangeable). I use the simple homemade generator with two silver wires attached to the electric source (a 24 volt ac to dc generator concealed in a plastic box) by alligator clips and wire, with an external light bulb I ignore most of the time. I know Radio Shack sells little solar gizmos but how much voltage can you get out of them? Is it feasible to make colloidal silver this way in the event of a black out (for whatever reason: you ran out of batteries, ran into hurricanes, tornadoes, Y2Ks, you didn't pay your electric bill, you ran away,...) ÜÜÜ I really don't want to be without this stuff for more than a few days at a time. I like it so much better than antibiotics, and it may be the only thing that works if the antibiotic crisis (bacterial resistance) continues as it has been. Sincerely,
Re: CS and digestive bacteria
Frank, I've had that problem when taking CS orally. I just take a capsule or two of Acidophilus (8 Billion count each) daily. I get 120 caps for about 13.75 American, so it works out to about 11 to 22 cents per day depending on how much I take. I also eat yogurt regularly. Vern -Original Message- From: Frank Matzka fmat...@senet.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, May 24, 1998 6:28 PM Subject: CS and digestive bacteria There has been some talk of taking oral CS may disrupt the good bacteria we all have in our digestive systems. Now that I'll be taking CS fairly regularly I figured that to counteract any decline in the good bugs, that I would counteract by eating some live yoghurt every day. Also there recently came on the market here in South Australia a product called Yakult which has live Lactobacillus casei Shirota strain. I have no idea how good this stuff is but if you believe the brochures it is just the stuff for re establishing a healthy intestinal population. Any thoughts on the my theory ? Also do we have any expert yoghurt makers out there? This Yakult stuff is about 70c for a small daily dose bottle (30 mls) and if anybody is familiar with it or it's making I'd like to try to cultivate my own. Thanks in advance. Regards...Frank -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS for MS - MS may be infectious in nature
Colloidal silver is possibly useful for treating MS: CS may be an effective treatment for Multiple Sclerosis, since (at least some) MS has reportedly been found to be infectious in nature: 1) MS has been found to be caused by Chlamydia pneumonia. 2) In other studies, MS has been found to be a spirochetal disease like Lyme Disease. Below are some references. --Bill P.S.-- MS can be caused by a vitamin B12 deficiency or a B12 blockage which can be caused by B12 analogues (inactive forms of B12). B12 analogues can be produced by certain micro-organisms, and at least hypothetically, these could colonize the human digestive tract. CS could possibly control any such organisms. Note: Spirulina algae, often used as a food, also contains B12 analogues, and if consumed frequently, may eventually be unhealthy, even for people who don't have MS. Although the body normally stores up to a five year's supply of vitamin B12, analogues may block the use of these stores -- thus a normal B12 blood test could be misleading. Blood tests for detecting B12 analogues are rarely done, except in research projects. The coenzyme forms of vitamin B12 will probably circumvent any B12 analogue blockages. The coenzyme forms of B12 are the methyl-, hydroxo-, and S-adenosyl- cobalamins. B12 injections also may circumvent B12 analogue blockages. ~~~ From: rifet...@rt66.com (James Bare) To: rife-l...@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 Subj: MS- A breakthrough! I just finished talking with a woman who has MS. She has been in a clinical trial for the past 11 months. Prior to the start of the trial she had been in a wheel chair for 11 years, she was unable to open her hands and could not walk. She now can walk, is able to drive and can use her hands again for the first time in years. She is still weak, has residual symptoms, and must use a wheel chair for prolonged outings, but is still showing improvement. MS has been found to be caused by Chlamydia pneumonia. A major paper is about to be released on this breakthrough in some Neurology Journal. The tests were done by Vanderbilt University. Treatment has been something of an antibiotic cocktail with the use of some sort of special machines to bypass the blood brain barrier. Biggest problem is the antibiotics can cause liver toxicity. The Chlamydia produce excess porphyrin (can cause severe CNS symptoms), and also upset the cells mitochondria. Chlamydia live inside of cells as a parasite. So does anyone know of a frequency for this parasitic organism?. Jim ~~~ From: Reid Smith rsm...@intrnet.net To: rife-l...@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 Subj: Re: MS- A breakthrough! I just finished talking with a woman who has MS. She has been in a clinical trial for the past 11 months. Prior to the start of the trial she had been in a wheel chair for 11 years, she was unable to open her hands and could not walk. She now can walk, is able to drive and can use her hands again for the first time in years. She is still weak, has residual symptoms, and must use a wheel chair for prolonged outings, but is still showing improvement. MS has been found to be caused by Chlamydia pneumonia. I was diagnosed with MS in the begining and tested positive for Chlamydia then a second test showed negative. That shows you just how good their tests are. That was the only thing that they could find wrong with me at the time. I'd be interested in knowning what antibotics they are using. Also Chlamydia was said to cause heart problems and heart attacks. Biggest problem is the antibiotics can cause liver toxicity. So does anyone know of a frequency for this parasitic organism?. Try 1520, 610-620, 880, and 5000. The first four work in me or at least help. The third was reported by someone else on the list to help MS victoms. I'll check and see how the chlamidia frequency works in me. From the list: Chlamydia 430,620,624,840,2213 Take Care Reid You can visit my website at http://www.eskimo.com/~reid/ ~~~ From: miden...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 Subj: Re: use of silver for cpms http://www.lymealliance.org/html/july.html Researcher Reveals Possible Lyme Multiple Sclerosis Connection by Kim Weber, From the Tick Talk - May/June 1997 Known for her work in pathology and her extensive research in cell wall deficient bacteria, Lida H. Mattman, Ph.D., is rocking the medical community with her discoveries in Lyme disease and Multiple Sclerosis. On May 6th in