Re: Stolen Locomotive

2003-08-21 Thread Tag Gorton
On 22/8/03 6:46 am, "Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> No Neck?  How about Neuron Free Environment?
> SuperEgo Absent, Id pilot only?
> Jail Time is my time?
> Bet No-Neck thought, "How did the shop know the track was stolen?"
> 
> So glad to know this loco will not be delayed going into production! And
> an American version coming! WOW! The run times are amazing.
> Does it use a radiant burner to help increase run time?
> Any pictures of the American to be?


Not yet Gary.  I have seen some of the detail parts however, including a
superb fabricated pilot built of brass and stainless steel, the smoke stack,
turned brass sandbox and safety valve domes.  The cab, I believe, will be
polished wood on a metal former and it MAY have a vanderbilt tender.  Hope I
have the terminology right - this is the slope backed one isn't it?

In common with other Cheddar locomotives, it uses a ceramic burner supplied
by a pressure regulated diaphragm gas tank which is designed for the easily
available propane/butane mix rather than plain butane.  This means that flow
will be absolutely consistent despite changes in temperature of the tank and
certainly helps to conserve gas. The burn is near silent.  The loco is a
delight to run (Okay - I am biased because I am buying one) but it is S
relaxing not having to worry about 20 min run times and to have a copious
supply of water for playing with the chime whistle.  Last time I ran this
model (at Hidden Valley in Launceston, Cornwall) it was in steam for over
four hours and was driven by several different people during that time.  The
visitors to this tourist attraction loved the strong chuff and the loud and
evocative chime whistle

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Yours Aye

Tag Gorton
Longlands & Western Railway
Trematon Office
Saltash

Cornwall

Directors: T. Gorton, Madame E. Lash
 


Stolen Locomotive

2003-08-21 Thread Gary
No Neck?  How about Neuron Free Environment?
SuperEgo Absent, Id pilot only?
Jail Time is my time?
Bet No-Neck thought, "How did the shop know the track was stolen?"

So glad to know this loco will not be delayed going into production! And
an American version coming! WOW! The run times are amazing.
Does it use a radiant burner to help increase run time?
Any pictures of the American to be?

Gary - Running trains over Terror Trestle in Eugene, Oregon
http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy
http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor


The American version is weeks away
Lowlife can be incredibly stupid.  Steve Tucker built his first garden
railway in St Ives Cornwall.  The line was visible from a spot passed by all
the summer holidaymakers and drew crowds when it was in steam.  It was the
only one in the town and known by almost everybody.  This particular no-neck
ripped up some of the track and tried to sell it to the only model shop in
town..

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Yours Aye

Tag Gorton
Longlands & Western Railway
Trematon Office
Saltash

Cornwall

Directors: T. Gorton, Madame E. Lash

 


Re: Stolen Locomotive

2003-08-21 Thread Tag Gorton
On 21/8/03 5:50 pm, "Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> One can only hope that the thief is ready for the classic "World's dumbest
> crooks list or TV viewing" which means the loco will turn up soon enough to
> enable this likely gorgeous loco to be manufactured and for the rest of us
> to run the loco as budgets allow.

There is one at http://www.mylargescale.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15260.
Or at http://www.modelsteam.co.uk/ If you look you can see the footpath by
the trees at the back.  This is a simple pre-production model with nothing
in the way of detail.  The production models will look rather different.
Luckily the locomotive was almost redundant in terms of design work and
these models will start rolling in about a week and I am waiting for one
myself which I hope to collect at the end of the month.
I did run this model on several occasions and particularly enjoyed the fact
that the gas burn lasts one and a half hours without even trying. I decided
to buy one after running for around half an hour and then leaving the loco
simmering in a refuge siding while we ate lunch beside the train.  I then
continued running for another forty minutes before running out of gas. The
loco is also able to be ready to steam in just over a minute and has the
best chime whistle I have ever heard.  Tender holds about two hours of water
before stopping at a water tower.
The American version is weeks away
Lowlife can be incredibly stupid.  Steve Tucker built his first garden
railway in St Ives Cornwall.  The line was visible from a spot passed by all
the summer holidaymakers and drew crowds when it was in steam.  It was the
only one in the town and known by almost everybody.  This particular no-neck
ripped up some of the track and tried to sell it to the only model shop in
town..

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Yours Aye

Tag Gorton
Longlands & Western Railway
Trematon Office
Saltash

Cornwall

Directors: T. Gorton, Madame E. Lash
 


RE: Re; Boiler test

2003-08-21 Thread Geoff Spenceley
 Steve,

Agreed, It's spectacular to have the safety spitting and  lots of noise
from the stack but your idea is much preferred for satisfactory running and
duration.

Geoff.

This is my view point:
>On the surface more pressure is better, but what I have found is that for
>scale like and smooth operation more is not always better.  When operating
>at max pressure somtimes smooth starts and speed regulation can be erratic
>and jittery.   You do not always have enough fine control of the throttle
>valve for a smooth start at high pressure.  Some engines run better at a
>lower pressure, higher pressures can just cause excessive speed.  I prefer
>to run my trains at slower speeds and usually do not run very long trains.
>I have the same view point with my model steam boats also.  If you run the
>engine at lower pressures duration will increase.
>
>Steve
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent:Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:12 AM
>> To:  Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
>> Subject: Re; Boiler test
>>
>> Royce,
>>
>> Why not take advantage of your overdesigned and now tested boiler with a
>> 60psi relief valve?  At minimum you could still operate at 40psi without
>> waisting anything out the popoff.
>>
>> I am still scratching my head on this next part and throw it out to the
>> group for comments.  Assuming you have sufficiant gas for the additional
>> energy required and operate at the same speed, would you not get longer
>> runs from a given amount of water operating at 60psi versus 40psi?  As
>> this is presumably a geared loco, I would assume you would not need the
>> extra torque available from the higher pressure.  At a first glance it
>> seems logical as each cc. of water would have that much more energy when
>> converted to steam.  I am having difficulty understanding if this
>> additional energy is simply lost across the pressure drop at the throttle
>> or if it does make it to the piston. It has been too many years since I
>> have studied steam tables to draw a conclusion.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tom Burns


 


RE: Stolen Locomotive

2003-08-21 Thread Chuck Walters
Gary and All,

Here is a link to the missing loco's picture.
http://www.modelsteam.co.uk/hercules.html

Chuck Walters
Twin Lakes Railway
http://home.twcny.rr.com/twinlakesrw

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Gary
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
Subject: Re: Stolen Locomotive


One can only hope that the thief is ready for the classic "World's dumbest
crooks list or TV viewing" which means the loco will turn up soon enough to
enable this likely gorgeous loco to be manufactured and for the rest of us
to run the loco as budgets allow.
Have you posted a picture of the loco so we might identify it and notify the
manufacturer?  The picture might have contact info for reporting sightings.

I suggest anyone who ID's the loco find a newscrew to film the arrest so we
can enjoy watching the event.
Gary - Running trains over Terror Trestle in Eugene, Oregon
http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy
http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor

This I think was an opportunist theft via the path alongside the premises.
If the lowlife had known anything about the subject at all he would know
that a model like this would be difficult to safely sell.
--

Yours Aye

Tag Gorton
Longlands & Western Railway
Trematon Office
Saltash

Cornwall

Directors: T. Gorton, Madame E. Lash



 


Re: Stolen Locomotive

2003-08-21 Thread Gary
One can only hope that the thief is ready for the classic "World's dumbest
crooks list or TV viewing" which means the loco will turn up soon enough to
enable this likely gorgeous loco to be manufactured and for the rest of us
to run the loco as budgets allow.
Have you posted a picture of the loco so we might identify it and notify the
manufacturer?  The picture might have contact info for reporting sightings.

I suggest anyone who ID's the loco find a newscrew to film the arrest so we
can enjoy watching the event.
Gary - Running trains over Terror Trestle in Eugene, Oregon
http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy
http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor

This I think was an opportunist theft via the path alongside the premises.
If the lowlife had known anything about the subject at all he would know
that a model like this would be difficult to safely sell.
--

Yours Aye

Tag Gorton
Longlands & Western Railway
Trematon Office
Saltash

Cornwall

Directors: T. Gorton, Madame E. Lash