[freenet-support] 5090 - Route Not Found
I'm revisiting freenet after giving it a few months to mature. Running 5090 on Java 1.4.2 Mac OS X 10.3.4 It was looking pretty good there for a while. I can load most of the sites listed on the Web Interface, but going from there is not happening. Take the GPL, for example: Couldn't retrieve key: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/GPL.txt Hops To Live: 15 Error: Route Not Found Attempts were made to contact 0 nodes. 0 were totally unreachable. 0 restarted. 0 cleanly rejected. 32 backed off. The request couldn't even make it off of your node. Try again, perhaps with the GPL to help your node learn about others. The publicly available seed nodes have been very busy lately. If possible try to get a friend to give you a reference to their node instead. This is new data to me. What's backed off? Thanks. -- Chris Linstruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] 5088 - New Build 5089 Doesn't Show On FProxy MainPage
Nodes tells each other their respective version.. When enough nodes of a newer version has appeared on the network your node will indicate that there is a new build available. /N -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 08:29:10 -0700 Since the 5089 announcement, I've been checking the FProxy main page for an indication that 5089 is available, but it doesn't show that it is available. I have been able to upgrade to 5089, but I'm concerned that there are nodes out there that won't know that it's time to upgrade. How is the FProxy main page made aware up a new version? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] getting connected
Hi, Freenet sounds great, but I can't get connected. Jave is installed. The program downloads, and freenet is running, but no connection is ever made. I have a router and when at the command prompt, I type ipconfig, it is 192.168.1.100. This is all very frustrating because I am not much more than a beginner with computers. I was able to set up a simple 3 computer network, however, so I a am not totally without computer skills. Please advise. Bill H. _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] re: update.sh produces a 24Mb seednodes.ref?
I have starting having the same problem. I am running Win 2k, 256 meg memory, and dial up connection. I thought maybe it was just the dial-up and connecting every now and then. Any one else seen this?? Lots of seednodes means lots of people which is great, but maybe there needs to be a max limit to the size of the seednodes and try to make a way to only give out the best seednodes. == == I've got this with the udating freenet lateley! When i upgrade freenet using the upgrade script, it produces a 24Mb seednodes.ref file, witch i suspect is causing my node of running out of memory! I'm running Debian Woody Stable! Here is what happens! heine at debian:~/freenet$ ./update.sh cp: cannot stat `seednodes.ref': No such file or directory --02:55:49-- http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-latest.jar = `freenet-latest.jar' Resolving freenetproject.org... done. Connecting to freenetproject.org[66.35.250.210]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 2,438,430 [application/x-java-archive] 100%[===] 2,438,430 52.98K/sETA 00:00 02:56:34 (52.98 KB/s) - `freenet-latest.jar' saved [2438430/2438430] --02:56:34-- http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/seednodes.ref.bz2 = `new-seednodes.ref.bz2' Resolving freenetproject.org... done. Connecting to freenetproject.org[66.35.250.210]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 932,445 [text/plain] 100%[===] 932,445 52.54K/sETA 00:00 02:56:52 (52.54 KB/s) - `new-seednodes.ref.bz2' saved [932445/932445] --02:56:57-- http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-ext.jar = `freenet-ext.jar' Resolving freenetproject.org... done. Connecting to freenetproject.org[66.35.250.210]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 1,637,068 [application/x-java-archive] Server file no newer than local file `freenet-ext.jar' -- not retrieving. heine at debian:~/freenet$ du -h seednodes.ref 24M seednodes.ref Freenet fails to start with an out of memory error message. If i then copy my seednodes.ref.old to seednodes.ref it starts perfectley! What's wrong here? and what will happen if i use the old seednodes? I'm currentley useing that. I'm trying to running a permant node, therefore i want to be online. Sincerley Heine Laursen ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] How many freenet nodes are there?
subject line says all. question applies to both stable and unstable networks. bottom line is: is there enough nodes and traffic to defeat traffic analysis of 1 individual's stuff? what is the threshold of enough / not enough? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: update.sh produces a 24Mb seednodes.ref?
Heine Laursen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've got this with the udating freenet lateley! When i upgrade freenet using the upgrade script, it produces a 24Mb seednodes.ref file, witch i suspect is causing my node of running out of memory! I had the same problem. I cut off half of the 24MB seednodes.ref file and freenet starts. It seems to work to. Regards Manni ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] new version
Dear Support Person, I am a new user to freenet and was barely able to use version 5089. Now I have downloaded 5090 and I cannot connect to the network. My computer skills are not bad, i.e. if you explain something to me with detail I can usually do it, but by no means am I of "geek" claibre. If you could help I would like to connect. I totally believe in the philosophy behind the network. I was just in Nepal trekking and spoke with some people from Tibet who use it to communicate. Thanks a lot, Greg Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] 5090 - Route Not Found
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 12:14:39AM -0700, Chris Linstruth wrote: I'm revisiting freenet after giving it a few months to mature. Running 5090 on Java 1.4.2 Mac OS X 10.3.4 It was looking pretty good there for a while. I can load most of the sites listed on the Web Interface, but going from there is not happening. Take the GPL, for example: Couldn't retrieve key: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/GPL.txt Hops To Live: 15 Error: Route Not Found Attempts were made to contact 0 nodes. 0 were totally unreachable. 0 restarted. 0 cleanly rejected. 32 backed off. The request couldn't even make it off of your node. Try again, perhaps with the GPL to help your node learn about others. The publicly available seed nodes have been very busy lately. If possible try to get a friend to give you a reference to their node instead. Okay, the first problem is that you're only connected to 32 nodes. How long has your node been up? How many connections does your node have? http://127.0.0.1:7888/servlet/nodeinfo/networking/ocm?setMode=Connection This is new data to me. What's backed off? Nodes tell your node how often it can send requests. When you can't send a request because it's not been long enough since last time, you are backed off. Thanks. -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] re: update.sh produces a 24Mb seednodes.ref?
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 07:12:58AM -0700, Darrin Wait wrote: I have starting having the same problem. I am running Win 2k, 256 meg memory, and dial up connection. I thought maybe it was just the dial-up and connecting every now and then. Any one else seen this?? Lots of seednodes means lots of people which is great, but maybe there needs to be a max limit to the size of the seednodes and try to make a way to only give out the best seednodes. Then we would have the traditional problem, which hasn't really gone away, of oh sh*t i'm in the seednodes. == == I've got this with the udating freenet lateley! When i upgrade freenet using the upgrade script, it produces a 24Mb seednodes.ref file, witch i suspect is causing my node of running out of memory! I'm running Debian Woody Stable! Here is what happens! heine at debian:~/freenet$ ./update.sh cp: cannot stat `seednodes.ref': No such file or directory --02:55:49-- http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-latest.jar = `freenet-latest.jar' Resolving freenetproject.org... done. Connecting to freenetproject.org[66.35.250.210]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 2,438,430 [application/x-java-archive] 100%[===] 2,438,430 52.98K/sETA 00:00 02:56:34 (52.98 KB/s) - `freenet-latest.jar' saved [2438430/2438430] --02:56:34-- http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/seednodes.ref.bz2 = `new-seednodes.ref.bz2' Resolving freenetproject.org... done. Connecting to freenetproject.org[66.35.250.210]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 932,445 [text/plain] 100%[===] 932,445 52.54K/sETA 00:00 02:56:52 (52.54 KB/s) - `new-seednodes.ref.bz2' saved [932445/932445] --02:56:57-- http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-ext.jar = `freenet-ext.jar' Resolving freenetproject.org... done. Connecting to freenetproject.org[66.35.250.210]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 1,637,068 [application/x-java-archive] Server file no newer than local file `freenet-ext.jar' -- not retrieving. heine at debian:~/freenet$ du -h seednodes.ref 24M seednodes.ref Freenet fails to start with an out of memory error message. How do you invoke Freenet? Via start-freenet.sh ? What -Xmx does it use? If i then copy my seednodes.ref.old to seednodes.ref it starts perfectley! What's wrong here? and what will happen if i use the old seednodes? I'm currentley useing that. I'm trying to running a permant node, therefore i want to be online. Sincerley Heine Laursen -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] new version
What happens? RNFs? How many connections does your node have?: http://127.0.0.1:/servlet/nodeinfo/networking/ocm?setMode=Connection What about the routing table?: http://127.0.0.1:/servlet/nodestatus/nodestatus.html - the summary at the top, e.g.: Number of known routing nodes 356 Number of node references 352 Number of newbie nodes 4 Number of uncontactable nodes 8 Contacted and attempted to contact node references 348 Contacted node references 28 Contacted newbie node references4 Connections with Successful Transfers 23 Backed off nodes16 Oh and we have users in Tibet? Woah. On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 11:48:03AM -0500, Doublecheese.com Page wrote: htmldiv style='background-color:'PDear Support Person,/P Pnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; I am a new user to freenet and was barely able to use version 5089.nbsp; Now I have downloaded 5090 and I cannot connect to the network.nbsp; My computer skills are not bad, i.e. if you explain something to me with detail I can usually do it, but by no means am I of geek claibre.nbsp; If you could help I would like to connect.nbsp; I totally believe in the philosophy behind the network.nbsp; I was just in Nepal trekking and spoke with some people from Tibet who use it to communicate./P PThanks a lot,/P -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] How many freenet nodes are there?
There is no way to be sure of the number of nodes. It is likely that at some point last year there were at least 10,000 stable nodes though. On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 08:07:55AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: subject line says all. question applies to both stable and unstable networks. bottom line is: is there enough nodes and traffic to defeat traffic analysis of 1 individual's stuff? We don't know. what is the threshold of enough / not enough? We don't know. :) -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] getting connected
What do you mean by no connection is ever made ? On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 04:43:27PM -0700, Bill Hendricks wrote: Hi, Freenet sounds great, but I can't get connected. Jave is installed. The program downloads, and freenet is running, but no connection is ever made. I have a router and when at the command prompt, I type ipconfig, it is 192.168.1.100. This is all very frustrating because I am not much more than a beginner with computers. I was able to set up a simple 3 computer network, however, so I a am not totally without computer skills. Please advise. Bill H. -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Startup times
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 01:48:12PM +0200, Anonymous wrote: On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 07:47:50AM -, Toad wrote: As of build 5088 I'm getting startup times in excess of 145 minutes. Is it swapping much? yes, disk is in full thrash.. cpu maxed. other processes grinding to a halt. This is counting from initiating freenet startup, to freenet being ready to deliver the web interface at 127.0.0.1: in the browser. latest everything, win98se P 233 How much RAM? How big datastore? What are the timings? i.e. show me the log of the startup at logLevel=normal. 64mb (best this mb will do) Yikes. Well, good luck. :) I will try to do something about memory usage seeding the RT, we're getting many many complaints about it. here's the log of last startup: Aug 6, 2004 2:40:01 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Starting Freenet (Fred) 0.5 node, build #5090 on JVM Sun Microsystems Inc.:Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM:1.4.1_03-b02 INFO: Native CPUID library 'freenet/support/CPUInformation/jcpuid-x86-windows.dll' loaded from resource INFO: Optimized native BigInteger library 'net/i2p/util/jbigi-windows-pentiummmx.dll' loaded from resource Aug 6, 2004 2:40:08 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, ERROR): overloadHigh set to 80% - this will NOT WORK with rate limiting Aug 6, 2004 2:40:13 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loading node keys: node Aug 6, 2004 2:40:14 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Read node file Aug 6, 2004 2:40:16 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): starting filesystem Aug 6, 2004 2:40:19 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loading data store Aug 6, 2004 2:40:19 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loading routing table Aug 6, 2004 2:40:20 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): From input: 1024.0 Aug 6, 2004 2:40:20 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Setting default initTransferRate to 1024.0 Aug 6, 2004 2:40:21 PM (freenet.node.rt.NGRoutingTable, main, NORMAL): Loading estimators Aug 6, 2004 2:40:22 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Created new NGRT Aug 6, 2004 2:40:23 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Loaded stats Aug 6, 2004 2:40:23 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loading temp bucket factory Aug 6, 2004 2:40:23 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loaded temp bucket factory Aug 6, 2004 2:40:23 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Loaded bucket factory Aug 6, 2004 4:55:04 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): read seed nodes Aug 6, 2004 4:55:04 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Initial refs count: 2, seeds: 607 Aug 6, 2004 4:55:04 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): not seeding routing table Aug 6, 2004 4:55:06 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): saved routing table Aug 6, 2004 4:55:06 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): starting node Aug 6, 2004 4:55:17 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Detected Windows 98/ME. Limiting connections accordingly. To get rid of this message, use a proper operating system - sorry Aug 6, 2004 4:55:19 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loading service: mainport Aug 6, 2004 4:55:23 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loading service: distribution Aug 6, 2004 4:55:24 PM (freenet.interfaces.servlet.SingleHttpServletContainer, main, NORMAL): Loading the single servlet distribution.params.servlet Aug 6, 2004 4:55:25 PM (freenet.node.Node, main, NORMAL): Starting ticker.. Aug 6, 2004 4:55:25 PM (freenet.node.Node, main, NORMAL): Starting interfaces.. Aug 6, 2004 4:55:25 PM (freenet.node.http.BookmarkManagerServlet, main, NORMAL): Bookmarks updated on request The situation has not improved with 5089 or 5090. Also, What's with 24mb seednodes? Isn't that starting to get excessive? Why do the refs have to be so large? can they at least be compressed with winrar to make transport easier? (though I expect that the monster seednodes.ref is part of the ultra long time getting started... a few builds back with seednodes no more than 2mb it was able to start up in about 5 min. They are, with bzip2. Please excuse me for 'borrowing' the email addy, I like to post anon, if there is an acceptable means to post to this list anonymously (via remailers) please advise and I will change tactics. Anonymous remailers that support spoofing addresses are generally regarded as anti-social. Doesn't it have a generic default address? remailer supports full from headers. it's not used with abuse in mind, but anonymity with recognizeability. yeah, i know that many abuse such things, esp on usenet. but in this case simply a means to post anon to a subscribe only email list. as test however, this sent without custom from and see if it makes it to the list.. if not, i'll put disclaimer at top and repost this as quote with full from of somebody on the list. or is there an acceptable anon 'from' i can use that will not have to be bounced or reviewed by list management to get posted?
Re: [freenet-support] 5090 - Route Not Found
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, Toad wrote: On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 12:14:39AM -0700, Chris Linstruth wrote: Couldn't retrieve key: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/GPL.txt Hops To Live: 15 Error: Route Not Found Attempts were made to contact 0 nodes. 0 were totally unreachable. 0 restarted. 0 cleanly rejected. 32 backed off. Okay, the first problem is that you're only connected to 32 nodes. How long has your node been up? How many connections does your node have? http://127.0.0.1:7888/servlet/nodeinfo/networking/ocm?setMode=Connection 32. Just started running the node yesterday. I don't think it's going to matter though because 5090 apparently tickles something in Apple's Java on my machine and hard crashes OSX. I'm trying to leave it up in non-transient mode to help it learn about the network but it keeps crashing. This is new data to me. What's backed off? Nodes tell your node how often it can send requests. When you can't send a request because it's not been long enough since last time, you are backed off. Okay, so I have valid connections to active nodes but they're telling me I can't have any more keys. That's helpful. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: NPE in 5090
Plonk schrieb: Log: Unexpected Exception in FproxyServlet.doGet -- java.lang.NullPointerException java.lang.NullPointerException Stable 5090, when trying to get a [EMAIL PROTECTED] AFAIK it's already fixed in current unstable. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
I'm sort of a newbie at this, but I'm trying to get Freenet to work and not having much luck. I assume I don't have a connection to Freenet because none of the links on the Freenet website that require Freenet work. I looked at freenet.log, and at the very end is this error: Caught java.lang.OutOfMemoryError running or seeding node java.lang.OutOfMemoryError Is this what's causing my problem? Get your own evilemail.com address at http://www.evilemail.com ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
Quoting petr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm sort of a newbie at this, but I'm trying to get Freenet to work and not having much luck. I assume I don't have a connection to Freenet because none of the links on the Freenet website that require Freenet work. I looked at freenet.log, and at the very end is this error: Caught java.lang.OutOfMemoryError running or seeding node java.lang.OutOfMemoryError Is this what's causing my problem? Probably. There's currently an issue with the seednodes.ref file. It's big. So big, in fact, that loading it into memory causes an out-of-memory condition. A crude way of dealing with the situation is to open the seednodes.ref file (found in the directory where you installed Freenet) and deleting half of the entries there. Note, however, that the problem will be fixed in the next build (5091). If you do surgery on the seednodes.ref, remember to download a new seednodes.ref file when you next update your node. Seednodes can be found here: http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/seednodes.ref -todd ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] 5090 quirks...
hi there, today i've tried the new 5090 build and i'd like to share my experiences
with you.
first of, i've run into the 'too big seednodes' problem, too cutting the seednodes
into half and throwing away one of these halves helped, as well as the suggestion to
strip the file of every 'estimator' line, which
worked very well too (dunno if it breaks something either, but nevertheless all the
noderefs seem to show up in the RT)
one of the first times i started my node, it had about ~30 connections to other nodes
after not quite 1 hour. then i restarted the node (because i needed full network
bandwidth). the next node start provided me
ONE connection to another node in the first 20 minutes. even after 2h of uptime i've
come to only 20 live connections. that's weird and very depressing :-/ as you can
imagine the node was never really useable as
it was constantly backed off by all nodes it had connections to.
what i've discovered then is the main reason why i write this mail.
at the time my node had this only one connection to the other node i was able to track
the type of the messages which got passed between the two nodes.
interesting was, that the foreign node (i will now call it 'node B') was quite
gentle to my node ('A') as it routed some DataRequests and later some StoreDatas
into my direction. so one can say that node B tried to
integrate my node into the network and thus began to route some things into my
direction. not too many, but what i'd like to call just right, means something like
around 1 message per 1 minute. (hm, i suppose it
could be more)
after some time the passed message types shown at the ocm connections page looked like
this:
Accepted3/1
DataNotFound0/1
QueryRejected 3/0
DataRequest 1/3
he send 3 DataRequests, i sent 3 Accepted, and now it comes.. my node responded
immediately with 3 QueryRejecteds! (all numbers were always equal when reloading the
page, 2=2=2, 4=4=4, ...)
the question is: why did my node reject the query?
see the following stats:
Current routingTime 0ms
Current messageSendTimeRequest 0ms
Pooled threads running jobs 47 (39,2%)
Pooled threads which are idle 7
Current upstream bandwidth usage76 bytes/second (1,9%)
Current estimated load for QueryReject purposes 39%
Current estimated load for rate limiting39,2%
Reason for load:Load due to thread limit = 39,2%
Load due to routingTime = 10% = 100ms / 1000ms = overloadLow (100%)
Load due to messageSendTimeRequest = 20% = 100ms / 500ms = overloadLow
(100%)
Load due to output bandwidth limiting = 2,3% because outputBytes(4589) =
limit (196608,003 ) = outLimitCutoff (0,8) * outputBandwidthLimit (4096) *
60
Load due to expected inbound transfers: 0,5% because: 1000.0 req/hr *
9.950189371914758E-4 (pTransfer) * 86016.0 bytes = 85587 bytes/hr expected
from current requests, but maxInputBytes/minute = 245760 (set input limit) *
60 * 1.1 = 16220160 bytes/hr target
Load due to expected outbound transfers: 4,2% because: 5046.5665649684115
req/hr * 9.970089730807576E-4(2 0s, 0 1s, 2 total) (pTransfer) * 86016.0
bytes = 432787 bytes/hr expected from current requests, but
maxInputBytes/minute = 172032 * 60 * 0.8 = 10321920 bytes/hr target
my node was *never* overloaded --okay, the first few seconds after node startup the
messageSTR was huge-- but after that the node was constantly around 20-40% load; bw
was nearly unused (i set bw to poor
4kb/s up and down, but that was even never reached. a later removal of the limit did
not help, either), cpu usage was very low too as nothing happened on the node.
why should the node answer with a QR? i don't get it.
of course the other node will be disppointed by my node's performance and decide to
route somewhere else (or it ignores the QR and hammers regardless earning even more
QRs)
maybe there's a nasty bug somewhere which leads to the massive QR diplomacy we can see
all around freenettown hindering everything as nearly all nodes are backed off.
JFYI
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[freenet-support] node on a server, and at home?
Hello, I control a unix (linux enterprise) server for my web sites. Can I run a node on this and access it from home? Obviously typing http://127.0.0.1: will not pull it up since it is at a server farm in another state. (USA). Also, if I have a router at home and 2 comps (XP machines) can I have each computer running a node? With the above resources how do I get the most out of it? (configuration). My BIGGEST thing is speed. I hate not finding what I am looking for and I hate file not founds. What would be better, unstable or stable? Thanks. Mike ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] 5090 quirks...
Accepted 3/1 DataNotFound 0/1 QueryRejected 3/0 DataRequest1/3 he send 3 DataRequests, i sent 3 Accepted, and now it comes.. my node responded immediately with 3 QueryRejecteds! (all numbers were always equal when reloading the page, 2=2=2, 4=4=4, ...) the question is: why did my node reject the query? uhm, or is the QR == RNF ?? what types of QR do exist? maybe the OCM should/could tell which type of QR the node sent? another thing with the OCM page: the nice blue/orange arrows that indicate receiving or transmitting connections are broken for some years now. but only recently i saw, that they *do* appear once in a time. alas, theis count had nothing to do with the 'number of RX/TX'. maybe this could be fixed sometime? i really like the arrows you know ;) ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] node on a server, and at home?
Hello, I control a unix (linux enterprise) server for my web sites. Can I run a node on this and access it from home? Obviously typing http://127.0.0.1: will not pull it up since it is at a server farm in another state. (USA). by default the only host which is allowed to connect to the node interface on port is localhost (127.0.0.1) this is to forbid everyone else but the owner of the machine to access the node. in your freenet.cont/.ini there is a line reading: # List of IP addresses (for example 192.168.1.7), DNS names (erica or www.nsa.gov) or netmasks (192.168.1.0/24) of hosts (computers) that should be allowed to access the main web interface of your freenet node. Defaults to localhost (127.0.0.0/8) only. %mainport.allowedHosts=127.0.0.0/8 here you can change the array of allowed host for example to: mainport.allowedHosts=127.0.0.0/8,12.34.56.78 where 12.34.56.78 is the ip of your xp computer. please remember to remove the heading % which is a comment character! you should also notice that connecting from your xp to the freenet node is now done over unencrypted http. this means that if you're being sniffed your actions can be seen and every file you retrieve out of freenet will be unencrypted, too, which will utterly destroy the principle of privacy. if you've got nothing to hide that *might* be okay, but ipspoofing/-claiming will allow others to access your freenet node, which might have negative effects on your reputation ;) so the better alternative would be: create a ssh tunnel from the linux box to your xp system (or vice versa). see 'man ssh' and look for the -L and -R options. on your windoze box you can try PuTTY which has a (hidden?) ssh daemon function; or use a different ssh tunnel software. this will protect your traffic and authorize the node access. that's the way you should choose to go Also, if I have a router at home and 2 comps (XP machines) can I have each computer running a node? of course, just make sure the FNP ports of each node are different (they're chosen randomly, so they are usually different) and forward the two ports from the router to the according xp box. you can even have more than one node per computer! if so, you should change the ports for the mainport () and the fcp port (8481) for the second node to something else (you could possibly just add +1) so they don't affect each other. With the above resources how do I get the most out of it? (configuration). My BIGGEST thing is speed. I hate not finding what I am looking for and I hate file not founds. uhm, transfer speed of a splitfile is great and is able to easily max out your connection as the split-file is retrieved in parallel from different sources. overall, freenet has a large latency but usually a nice transfer speed. 404's are sadly quite common as the node first has to 'weave' itself into the freenet network before it can archive decent performance and knowledge of the surrounding nodes. after that process it's supposed to run quite okay you just shouldn't be afraid of letting the node run 24/7 for at least a week or so (i'd say, the opinions differ) to let the node become part of the network. also be prepared that a node can use up large amounts of the network bandwidth resulting in massive transfer volumes. several gigs per month are common. What would be better, unstable or stable? unstable is the testfield but has all the fixes first. stable is more pleasant and is updated quite regulary, too. if you choose to run an unstable node you ought to update the node every single day as the unstable branch progresses very fast don't worry, your node will automatically tell you when a newer version is available (by noticing new build numbers within the network) Thanks. YW ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] 5090 quirks...
It rejected the requests because it only had one connection. It had
nowhere to route the request to and didn't have it in its routing table,
so it instantly RNF'd it.
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 10:54:22PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi there, today i've tried the new 5090 build and i'd like to share my experiences
with you.
first of, i've run into the 'too big seednodes' problem, too cutting the
seednodes into half and throwing away one of these halves helped, as well as the
suggestion to strip the file of every 'estimator' line, which
worked very well too (dunno if it breaks something either, but nevertheless all the
noderefs seem to show up in the RT)
one of the first times i started my node, it had about ~30 connections to other
nodes after not quite 1 hour. then i restarted the node (because i needed full
network bandwidth). the next node start provided me
ONE connection to another node in the first 20 minutes. even after 2h of uptime i've
come to only 20 live connections. that's weird and very depressing :-/ as you can
imagine the node was never really useable as
it was constantly backed off by all nodes it had connections to.
what i've discovered then is the main reason why i write this mail.
at the time my node had this only one connection to the other node i was able to
track the type of the messages which got passed between the two nodes.
interesting was, that the foreign node (i will now call it 'node B') was quite
gentle to my node ('A') as it routed some DataRequests and later some StoreDatas
into my direction. so one can say that node B tried to
integrate my node into the network and thus began to route some things into my
direction. not too many, but what i'd like to call just right, means something
like around 1 message per 1 minute. (hm, i suppose it
could be more)
after some time the passed message types shown at the ocm connections page looked
like this:
Accepted 3/1
DataNotFound 0/1
QueryRejected 3/0
DataRequest 1/3
he send 3 DataRequests, i sent 3 Accepted, and now it comes.. my node responded
immediately with 3 QueryRejecteds! (all numbers were always equal when reloading the
page, 2=2=2, 4=4=4, ...)
the question is: why did my node reject the query?
see the following stats:
Current routingTime 0ms
Current messageSendTimeRequest0ms
Pooled threads running jobs 47 (39,2%)
Pooled threads which are idle 7
Current upstream bandwidth usage 76 bytes/second (1,9%)
Current estimated load for QueryReject purposes 39%
Current estimated load for rate limiting 39,2%
Reason for load: Load due to thread limit = 39,2%
Load due to routingTime = 10% = 100ms / 1000ms = overloadLow (100%)
Load due to messageSendTimeRequest = 20% = 100ms / 500ms = overloadLow
(100%)
Load due to output bandwidth limiting = 2,3% because outputBytes(4589) =
limit (196608,003 ) = outLimitCutoff (0,8) * outputBandwidthLimit (4096) *
60
Load due to expected inbound transfers: 0,5% because: 1000.0 req/hr *
9.950189371914758E-4 (pTransfer) * 86016.0 bytes = 85587 bytes/hr expected
from current requests, but maxInputBytes/minute = 245760 (set input limit) *
60 * 1.1 = 16220160 bytes/hr target
Load due to expected outbound transfers: 4,2% because: 5046.5665649684115
req/hr * 9.970089730807576E-4(2 0s, 0 1s, 2 total) (pTransfer) * 86016.0
bytes = 432787 bytes/hr expected from current requests, but
maxInputBytes/minute = 172032 * 60 * 0.8 = 10321920 bytes/hr target
my node was *never* overloaded --okay, the first few seconds after node startup the
messageSTR was huge-- but after that the node was constantly around 20-40% load; bw
was nearly unused (i set bw to poor
4kb/s up and down, but that was even never reached. a later removal of the limit did
not help, either), cpu usage was very low too as nothing happened on the node.
why should the node answer with a QR? i don't get it.
of course the other node will be disppointed by my node's performance and decide to
route somewhere else (or it ignores the QR and hammers regardless earning even more
QRs)
maybe there's a nasty bug somewhere which leads to the massive QR diplomacy we can
see all around freenettown hindering everything as nearly all nodes are backed off.
JFYI
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Re: [freenet-support] node on a server, and at home?
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 04:16:46PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I control a unix (linux enterprise) server for my web sites. Can I run a node on this and access it from home? Obviously typing http://127.0.0.1: will not pull it up since it is at a server farm in another state. (USA). Sure. The safest way to do this would be to ssh tunnel to the other machine. Read man ssh - the -L or -R option should do this. Then you could forward the port and use 127.0.0.1, and you can't be eavesdropped. Also, if I have a router at home and 2 comps (XP machines) can I have each computer running a node? With the above resources how do I get the most out of it? (configuration). My BIGGEST thing is speed. I hate not finding what I am looking for and I hate file not founds. What would be better, unstable or stable? Stable. Thanks. Mike -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] node on a server, and at home?
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 11:59:00PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unstable is the testfield but has all the fixes first. stable is more pleasant and is updated quite regulary, too. if you choose to run an unstable node you ought to update the node every single day as the unstable branch progresses very fast Unstable has less reachable content due to being smaller. From his mail I suspect this is an important consideration. don't worry, your node will automatically tell you when a newer version is available (by noticing new build numbers within the network) Usually :). Check the web site from time to time, or read this list or devl, in case there's a reset. -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] node on a server, and at home?
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: With the above resources how do I get the most out of it? (configuration). My BIGGEST thing is speed. I hate not finding what I am looking for and I hate file not founds. uhm, transfer speed of a splitfile is great and is able to easily max out your connection as the split-file is retrieved in parallel from different sources. overall, freenet has a large latency but usually a nice transfer speed. Although, the best configuration, I think, would be to run just one node, and access that node from wherever. Having one node do all the work lets that one node do more learning of the network. don't worry, your node will automatically tell you when a newer version is available (by noticing new build numbers within the network) This is not necessarily so. 99% of the time this works, but the most recent node update (5090) was a full and clean network reset, meaning 5090 would talk only to builds 5090 and above. If you had a 5089 node, you'd never get the notice about seeing a newer build. This doesn't immediately matter to you, Mike, I'm just commenting on the above statement. -todd ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] re: update.sh produces a 24Mb seednodes.ref?
Toad wrote: How do you invoke Freenet? Via start-freenet.sh ? What -Xmx does it use? Yes. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/freenet$ grep Xmx start-freenet.sh echo Command line: java -Xmx128m $JAVA_ARGS freenet.node.Main $@ nice -n 10 -- java -Xmx128m $JAVA_ARGS freenet.node.Main $@ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/freenet$ Sincerley Heine Laursen ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] How many freenet nodes are there?
Toad wrote: There is no way to be sure of the number of nodes. It is likely that at some point last year there were at least 10,000 stable nodes though. On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 08:07:55AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: subject line says all. question applies to both stable and unstable networks. bottom line is: is there enough nodes and traffic to defeat traffic analysis of 1 individual's stuff? We don't know. what is the threshold of enough / not enough? We don't know. :) based on the peer data we've collected, we have seen more than 13k unique IP addresses around the world. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: node on a server, and at home?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I control a unix (linux enterprise) server for my web sites. Can I run a node on this and access it from home? Obviously typing As long as you can install a decent JVM (Sun 1.4.2_05 seems to work reasonably well), yes. http://127.0.0.1: will not pull it up since it is at a server farm in another state. (USA). You need to set fcpHosts (for client programs like FIW, Fuqid, Frost etc) and mainport.allowedHosts (the web interface) to allow access from other computers. Also, using a tunnel (SSH, SSL or VPN) to access the node would be wise. And even then you should refrain from inserting big files via FCP, because it's somewhat bandwidth-intensive. Also, if I have a router at home and 2 comps (XP machines) can I have each computer running a node? Yes, but the limiting factor might be your bandwidth, and your two home nodes will probably end up competing for it. It's better to run a single node and give it more bandwidth. With the above resources how do I get the most out of it? (configuration). My BIGGEST thing is speed. I hate not finding what I am looking for and I hate file not founds. What would be better, unstable or stable? Stable. The network is bigger, and most of the recent performance tweaks are in stable, too. You should run unstable only if you don't mind occassional network meltdowns, updating daily and/or want to help with Freenet development. -- Mika Hirvonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nightwatch.mine.nu/ Get Freenet from: http://cs181027153.pp.htv.fi:8891/J0~0J7ajDJE/ ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
