Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?
Phillip Jones wrote: Daniel wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Daniel wrote: asmpgmr wrote: On Oct 24, 5:40 pm, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: 1) Tabs were not in IE until very recently (IE7) while Mozilla has had them for ages (Opera was the first tabbed browser, though). 2) The vast majority of users love tabs, please accept that while you might be one of our users, you are not the majority and can't speak for them. I don't like tabs either and see them as a pointless waste of screen space when the OS already has window management and its own taskbar which can be hidden but I don't care that tabs are supported because I have the choice not to use them. Tabs also seem to use more resources and essentially duplicate functionality already in the OS. 4) As in any open source project, those who actually give time and work to the project have the most influence of what's happening. Nobody can change that, it's the very nature of how things work, and an increasing amount of people seems to be happier with that than with the alternatives. Granted but why do things like change the download progress dialog UI to be less usable because you don't like dialogs (Your words: Download progress dialogs ? Eww!). There really is no reason why this can't look more or less the same as SeaMonkey 1.x 5) Accept that you are not always in the majority or target audience group among users. Does this mean that people who like the SeaMonkey 1.x UI aren't the target audience for SeaMonkey 2.0 ?? Phillip, if I am to believe your message header, you are using Win98! SeaMonkey 2.0 is not supposed to work on Win98, so are you complaining about something you haven't even tried yet?? Or have you found a way for getting SM 2.0 to work on Win98 (Please, oh please, Phillip, you'll be my friend forever!!)?? Hang on, Phillip, you almost got away with that, Phillip.but then, just before I hit sent I remembered that you use Mac OSX or whatever, so you must have your SM prefs munged!! You almost got away with that, Phillip! Daniel No I use Mac OSX 4.11. There isn't a Windows machine within a quarter mile of my house thank you. There is no modal window in SM2 for Mac. As for the Active -X Comments its combination or Reading various internet news feed, plus helping some of my relatives that use Windows machines and Friends. I suggest they turn off active-x and the malware attacks seem to disappear. So did you just forget to re-set your header info last time??? (Now it is correctly showing you are using a Mac!) Daniel ??? I don't even use User Agent switcher any more. I'm sorry, Phillip, somehow I mis-read asmpgmr as your name! Must have been a real bad day. Again, I'm sorry, Phillip!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite today: SeaMonkey 2.0, now available for free download from the seamonkey-project.org website, melds the ideas behind Netscape Communicator with the modern platform of Firefox 3.5 to create one of the most compelling open source products for advanced Internet users. The combination of an Internet browser, email amp; newsgroup client, HTML editor, IRC chat and web development tools, that has already established a wide user base in its previous incarnations, has been rebuilt on top of the modern Mozilla platform, featuring world-class add-on management among other things. In addition, it has been improved with feed support (including an RSS and Atom feed reader in the mail component), a modern look, restoration of browser tabs and windows after crashes or restarts, tabbed mail, automated updates, smart history search from the location bar, faster JavaScript, HTML5 features (for example video and downloadable fonts), and even support for the Lightning calendar add-on (which will issue a beta for installation on SeaMonkey 2.0 in the next few weeks). The release notes feature more in-depth lists of the improvements and known issues with the new version as well as installation requirements and instructions. Find even more information on SeaMonkey 2.0 and the SeaMonkey project at seamonkey-project.org! Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2009-10-27 Downloads for all available platforms and languages: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ Release notes: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/system-requirements Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
Robert Kaiser wrote: The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite today Oops, forgot another followup-to, please reply only to mozilla.support.seamonkey! Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Delete broken in today's nightlies ??
dominique wrote: dominique wrote, On 10/26/2009 1:13 PM: Hello all, Is it just me for the delete key (as well as the D shortcut are inoperative to delete a message ? It was working in yesterday's nightlies... I am not sure it is a regression as I was recently playing between the 2.0.1 and the 2.1 versions of the nightlies, so I might have something broken somewhere :-) Thanks everyone ! Dominique Ooops.. forget about this !! works now... never mind (and sorry for the noise...) ! Dominique Don't keep us in suspenders, Dominique, was it a SM 2.x thing or an other thing?? Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?
Bill Davidsen wrote: mailing links to pages which have the js doesn't make thing more secure, just less convenient. It does make it more secure. With no JavaScript in the e-mail message, you can't get exposed to the JavaScript just by opening the message. You have to choose to visit the page. And just because we can't make both safe doesn't mean we shouldn't at least try to make one of them safe. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
Robert Kaiser wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite today Oops, forgot another followup-to, please reply only to mozilla.support.seamonkey! Thanks, Robert, for all your efforts. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?
asmpgmr wrote: Perhaps someone will take an old pre-alpha 1 build of SeaMonkey 2.0 which supported early Gecko 1.9.1 before any of these UI changes were added, drop in the current version of Gecko 1.9.1 and release that as a user-supported custom build, a sort of SeaMonkey 1.5. If you're referring to our XPFE builds, they only supported 1.9.0a5, so you'd probably be able to compile it against Gecko 1.9.0.x, but of course it wouldn't have the extension manager, form autocomplete, feed preview, vista-compatible shell integration, fast location bar autocomplete, etc. -- Warning: May contain traces of nuts. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Now that v2.0 final is out, time to start upgrading...
Hello! I plan to do a CLEAN install instead of upgrading to reconfigure everything from scratch in both my Debian/Linux and Windows XP Pro. SP2-3 boxes. Questions: 1. Can I just copy the old SM v1.1.18 plugins (QuickTime v7.6.4, RealPlayer v6.0.12.448, Flash v10.0 r32, VeohTV, Sun Java Platform SE 6 U15, MS DRM, Windows Media Player Plug-in, etc.) to SM2's plugins without any changes and problems? Are they all compatible? 2. How do I keep my multiple PC's SM v2 bookmarks, address books, e-mails, etc. in sychronized manually? I usually copy my bookmarks.html, abook*.mab, and e-mails between PCs. 3. Speaking of bookmarks, addressbooks, e-mails, etc. Can I copy/import the old datas into SM2 easily since I am doing a clean install? 4. I see no Mac OS X 10.2.8 support. Can I compile my own or get it from a third party? I still use SM v1.1.18 on it. 5. I have about eighteen extensions in SeaMonkey v1.1.18, but I'd hate to lose them and I assume they won't work in v2. Are there replacements or do hey still work? Here's the list of my installed extensions: * BugMeNot (mailto:ehami...@gmail.com) * Colored Tabs 1.3 * Coralize 0.9 (http://piki.org/patrick/) * Extension Uninstaller API 2.0 (http://jgillick.nettripper.com/) * Flashblock (http://flashblock.mozdev.org/) * IE View 1.4.3 (http://ieview.mozdev.org/) * Mnenhy - Chrome Manager (http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/) * Mnenhy - Custom Headers (http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/) * Mnenhy - Junk Filter Tools (http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/) * Mnenhy - MailNews FolderStore (http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/) * Mnenhy - MailNews Sidebar (http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/) * Mnenhy - MailNews-Enhancements (http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/) * Mnenhy - Registry Viewer (http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/) * Mnenhy - Text Codecs (http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/) * Preferences Toolbar (http://prefbar.mozdev.org/) * SessionSaver 0.2d (http://adblock.mozdev.org/sessionsaver I probably will have more questions soon. Thank you in advance. :) -- Now I have you where I want you... where is my jar of Bull ants? --unknown /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| |Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Delete broken in today's nightlies ??
Daniel wrote, On 10/27/2009 11:51 AM: Don't keep us in suspenders, Dominique, was it a SM 2.x thing or an other thing?? Daniel Well, I think it was something else, most probably the device between the keyboard and the chair !!! Sorry about this noise... Dominique ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey 2.0 Folder Won't Open
When I try to open the new Seamonkey folder under Program Files, I get a Windows error (Windows Explorer has encountered a problem...)and have to close the folder. How do I fix this? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 Folder Won't Open
Tom Pamin wrote: When I try to open the new Seamonkey folder under Program Files, I get a Windows error (Windows Explorer has encountered a problem...)and have to close the folder. How do I fix this? The file referred to in the error is mshtml.dll. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
dominique wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote, On 10/27/2009 11:27 AM: The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite today: SeaMonkey 2.0, now available for free download from the seamonkey-project.org website, melds the ideas behind Netscape Communicator with the modern platform of Firefox 3.5 to create one of the most compelling open source products for advanced Internet users. .../... Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator Congratulations to everyone contributing, and specially to you Robert !! Enjoy your vacations !! :) Dominique +1 Congratulations and many thanks to all who contributed to this program! Mark -- http://www.masadsign.nl/logout/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
Robert Kaiser wrote: The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite today: SeaMonkey 2.0, now available for free download from the seamonkey-project.org website, melds the ideas behind Netscape Communicator with the modern platform of Firefox 3.5 to create one of the most compelling open source products for advanced Internet users. The combination of an Internet browser, email amp; newsgroup client, HTML editor, IRC chat and web development tools, that has already established a wide user base in its previous incarnations, has been rebuilt on top of the modern Mozilla platform, featuring world-class add-on management among other things. In addition, it has been improved with feed support (including an RSS and Atom feed reader in the mail component), a modern look, restoration of browser tabs and windows after crashes or restarts, tabbed mail, automated updates, smart history search from the location bar, faster JavaScript, HTML5 features (for example video and downloadable fonts), and even support for the Lightning calendar add-on (which will issue a beta for installation on SeaMonkey 2.0 in the next few weeks). The release notes feature more in-depth lists of the improvements and known issues with the new version as well as installation requirements and instructions. Find even more information on SeaMonkey 2.0 and the SeaMonkey project at seamonkey-project.org! /snip/ Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator This is truly great news, a great day for the old Netscape suite concept. My hearty congratulations to all who have worked so hard. I am assuming that RC2 is the released version, since a check for updates from here found none. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 Folder Won't Open
Tom Pamin schrieb: Tom Pamin wrote: When I try to open the new Seamonkey folder under Program Files, I get a Windows error (Windows Explorer has encountered a problem...)and have to close the folder. How do I fix this? The file referred to in the error is mshtml.dll. Do you have similar errors when using the windows help? have you installed SM2 to a completely new directory? regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Where is Form Manager in 2.0?
How do you access the new Form Manager in 2.0? I can't find it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Now that v2.0 final is out, time to start upgrading...
Ant schrieb: 1. Can I just copy the old SM v1.1.18 plugins (QuickTime v7.6.4, RealPlayer v6.0.12.448, Flash v10.0 r32, VeohTV, Sun Java Platform SE 6 U15, MS DRM, Windows Media Player Plug-in, etc.) to SM2's plugins without any changes and problems? Are they all compatible? They should afaik. 2. How do I keep my multiple PC's SM v2 bookmarks, address books, e-mails, etc. in sychronized manually? I usually copy my bookmarks.html, abook*.mab, and e-mails between PCs. Yeah, just copy the data you like or the whole profile. 3. Speaking of bookmarks, addressbooks, e-mails, etc. Can I copy/import the old datas into SM2 easily since I am doing a clean install? SM2 offers to migrate the data from the old profile to the new one on the first start. If it doesn't, start it manually: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey 4. I see no Mac OS X 10.2.8 support. Can I compile my own or get it from a third party? I still use SM v1.1.18 on it. I'm not xperienced with Macs, but... this doesn't work? http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#official 5. I have about eighteen extensions in SeaMonkey v1.1.18, but I'd hate to lose them and I assume they won't work in v2. Just try them out. And if it fails, ask the developer if the extension can be made compatible (sometimes it's already working and just SM needs to be added to the compatibility list of the extension) or do hey still work? Here's the list of my installed extensions: * Extension Uninstaller API 2.0 (http://jgillick.nettripper.com/) Not needed, SM2 has own AddOn-Mnager * Flashblock (http://flashblock.mozdev.org/) works * Mnenhy is about to be released in a new SM2-compatible version soon. * Preferences Toolbar (http://prefbar.mozdev.org/) works regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 Folder Won't Open
Martin Freitag wrote: Tom Pamin schrieb: Tom Pamin wrote: When I try to open the new Seamonkey folder under Program Files, I get a Windows error (Windows Explorer has encountered a problem...)and have to close the folder. How do I fix this? The file referred to in the error is mshtml.dll. Do you have similar errors when using the windows help? have you installed SM2 to a completely new directory? regards Martin I reinstalled 2.0 and now the folder opens ok. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
Robert Kaiser skriver: Robert Kaiser wrote: The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite today Oops, forgot another followup-to, please reply only to mozilla.support.seamonkey! Robert Kaiser Robert and the volunteers that made this possible cannot be thanked too much! Being a suite user for more than ten years, this is really a great day; Starting with Netscape Navigator Gold, then Netscape Communicator, then Mozilla Suite and finally SeaMonkey 1.0 - 2.0. Stand-alone applications were never an alternative. I've been using 2.0 for some months now and it's been a pleasure from the start; Feature-rich yet not bloated. Thanks to you, the suite not only lives, it's healthier than ever before! Fred ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
Danke an alle die dies möglich gemacht haben :) ~~~ DANKE ~~~ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
IE Tab for 2.0?
Is there a way to get the old IE Tab plugin (npietab.dll) to work in 2.0)? If not, what do we use? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?
On Oct 27, 5:36 am, Neil n...@parkwaycc.co.uk wrote: asmpgmr wrote: Perhaps someone will take an old pre-alpha 1 build of SeaMonkey 2.0 which supported early Gecko 1.9.1 before any of these UI changes were added, drop in the current version of Gecko 1.9.1 and release that as a user-supported custom build, a sort of SeaMonkey 1.5. If you're referring to our XPFE builds, they only supported 1.9.0a5, so you'd probably be able to compile it against Gecko 1.9.0.x, but of course it wouldn't have the extension manager, form autocomplete, feed preview, vista-compatible shell integration, fast location bar autocomplete, etc. Isn't there an early build out there that supports Gecko 1.9.1.x but still has the SeaMonkey 1.1.x UI ? I know 2.0 alpha 1 is close but has the annoying infobars. Personally I don't care about any of the new features, I only care about Gecko 1.9.1.x which processes JavaScript faster and supports some newer web standards. As long as everything in the SeaMonkey 1.1.x was still present then that would be great. So I want the old location bar, old password manager, old form manager, old download progress dialog and uses the old mork database format (I don't care if it's old and archaic, it works while SQLite tends to thrash). I would never use the RSS feeds or session saving and have no intention of using bloated Win Vista or more bloated Win 7. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Now that v2.0 final is out, time to start upgrading...
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:45:52 -0700, Ant wrote: 5. I have about eighteen extensions in SeaMonkey v1.1.18, but I'd hate to lose them and I assume they won't work in v2. Are there replacements or do hey still work? Here's the list of my installed extensions: * Extension Uninstaller API 2.0 (http://jgillick.nettripper.com/) You don't need this one. SM2.0 comes with a far superior built in Addons Manager. * Flashblock (http://flashblock.mozdev.org/) http://flashblock.mozdev.org/installation2.html#current Flashblock 1.3.14 for Firefox 1.0.x, Mozilla Suite 1.7.x, SeaMonkey 1.0 to 2.1a, and Netscape 7.2 to 9.0.x. * Mnenhy - Chrome Manager (http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/) * Mnenhy - Custom Headers (http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/) * Mnenhy - Junk Filter Tools (http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/) * Mnenhy - MailNews FolderStore (http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/) * Mnenhy - MailNews Sidebar (http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/) * Mnenhy - MailNews-Enhancements (http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/) * Mnenhy - Registry Viewer (http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/) * Mnenhy - Text Codecs (http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/) The author has no time to work on Mnenhy since he is also the SeaMonkey MailNews module owner and has been busy (like all of us) getting SeaMonkey 2.0 ready. * Preferences Toolbar (http://prefbar.mozdev.org/) There should be a SM2.0 compatible version somewhere there. * SessionSaver 0.2d (http://adblock.mozdev.org/sessionsaver Session Restore is now built in to SeaMonkey 2.0. To manage save and restore your saved sessions you can install Session Manager 0.6.7 from http://sessionmanager.mozdev.org/ Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
New SeaMonkey 2 -- Questions
I just downloaded the Windows installer EXE file via FTP (SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.exe). This is smaller than the related ZIP file and smaller than the installer EXE for 1.1.18. Is this correct? Is the file complete, or do I have to be connected to the Internet when I install? In the past, I merely installed SeaMonkey directly over the prior version without first removing that prior version. Can I safely install SeaMonkey 2 over SeaMonkey 1.1.18 without first deleting the latter? (This being Tuesday when I normally backup my hard drives and Windows registry, I will do my backups before attempting installation of SeaMonkey 2.) -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Now that v2.0 final is out, time to start upgrading...
Ant wrote: Hello! /snip/ 4. I see no Mac OS X 10.2.8 support. Can I compile my own or get it from a third party? I still use SM v1.1.18 on it. /snip/ You will have to continue to use 1.1.18 or any further updates of 1.1.x on your Jaguar system. 2.0 will only run Tiger (1.4.x) and above. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: TVguide - third time
On 10/26/2009 09:33 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: ... perhaps a fuller-URL may open a guide - http://au.tv.yahoo.com/tv-guide/?hour=12min=24date=27mon=10year=2009 Did it open the TV-guide for Sydney-AU, which is what I intended? If so, click-on any show-name in the schedule to-open the pane detailing the show/movie/etcetera. It should open a pane with all the information, but if it only-opens a white-pane in the page like what Bill is getting, then it's also not working, and presumably is something like bad JavaScript in the page. Well, I had to adjust the day: http://au.tv.yahoo.com/tv-guide/?hour=12min=24date=28mon=10year=2009 :-) Midday Report(30)12:00pm - 12:30pm National Press Club Address(60)12:30pm - 1:30pm Talking HeadsG(30)1:30pm - 2:00pm Parliament Question Time(60)2:00pm - 3:00pm 12:00pm - 12:30pm | ABC HD News, Closed Captions Up-to-the minute local, national and international news, with special attention paid to business and the economy. I'm running 2.0pre this morning; I'll need to switch to 2.0 (Final! Yea!) to test again also w/Bill's link. Gary ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Thanks to the team of 2.0
Just would like to thank everyone related to the latest version of Sea Monkey. It took care of all of my so called problems such as slowness and not being able to set it to default and installed easily the only thing I have to do is delete to old 1.1.17 and it files. It seems everything that I had set correctly moved over with no problem at all. It was easy to do and I am running it on Vista. Excellent job and thanks again to the hard working people that worked on it. -- Lee (in Florida)US Army Retired Georgie Boy Cruise Master Logitech Vid and Skype for vid calls ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
On 10/27/2009 07:37 AM, Fred wrote: Robert Kaiser skriver: Robert Kaiser wrote: The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite today Oops, forgot another followup-to, please reply only to mozilla.support.seamonkey! Robert Kaiser Robert and the volunteers that made this possible cannot be thanked too much! Agreed. Thank you Robert all the other contributors to SeaMonkey! -Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New SeaMonkey 2 -- Questions
David E. Ross wrote: I just downloaded the Windows installer EXE file via FTP (SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.exe). This is smaller than the related ZIP file and smaller than the installer EXE for 1.1.18. Is this correct? Is the file complete, or do I have to be connected to the Internet when I install? Yes the file is smaller; the old version was becoming bloatware. In the past, I merely installed SeaMonkey directly over the prior version without first removing that prior version. For software in general, you should always uninstall/reinstall, but the more important issue with Mozilla, is looking after your profile. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey 2 Update could not be installed
Windows XP. I had RC2 installed. I updated to SeaMonkey 2.0 as administrator but my user account still shows a download ready to install but fails to install it. When SeaMonkey restarts it give the the error below. The update could not be installed. Please make sure there are no other copies of SeaMonkey running on your computer, and then restart SeaMonkey to try again. If anyone can see this please reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2 and Bookmarks
With SeaMonkey 1.1.x, my home page was my bookmarks file (bookmarks.html in my profile). A survey done by Mozillazine some years ago indicated a significant number of users have their bookmarks as their home page. With bookmarks now in a database, how do I do this with SeaMonkey 2? Among my four SeaMonkey profiles, two profiles have bookmark links to each other's bookmarks. That is one profile's bookmarks has a link to another profile's bookmarks. How do I do this with SeaMonkey 2? No, I have not yet installed SeaMonkey 2. I've already downloaded the EXE installer file and expect to install it in a very few hours, as soon as I backup my hard drives. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2 Update could not be installed
On 10/27/2009 12:04 PM, Rob Steinmetz wrote: Windows XP. I had RC2 installed. I updated to SeaMonkey 2.0 as administrator but my user account still shows a download ready to install but fails to install it. When SeaMonkey restarts it give the the error below. The update could not be installed. Please make sure there are no other copies of SeaMonkey running on your computer, and then restart SeaMonkey to try again. If anyone can see this please reply. Yes, I can read your message. However, I don't know how to help you. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2 and Bookmarks
On 10/27/2009 10:14 PM David E. Ross wrote: With SeaMonkey 1.1.x, my home page was my bookmarks file (bookmarks.html in my profile). A survey done by Mozillazine some years ago indicated a significant number of users have their bookmarks as their home page. With bookmarks now in a database, how do I do this with SeaMonkey 2? The bookmarks format is still the same and won't change for the SM 2.0.x product line, but probably for SM 2.1. Or more technical: The Places back-end is only used for history currently. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
On Oct 27, 10:30 am, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite today Oops, forgot another followup-to, please reply only to mozilla.support.seamonkey! Robert Kaiser I'm sorry to say, but there's a problem with the latest release. I upgraded it from 1.1.18 and after the upgrade I had a strange occurrence. Every time I try to run Seamonkey, it shuts down all by itself without ever opening a window. I tried downloading it again without any change. I hope this gets addressed, because I really like this client, at least up to now. Tomas Thrainsson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New SeaMonkey 2 -- Questions
On 10/27/2009 5:44 PM David E. Ross wrote: In the past, I merely installed SeaMonkey directly over the prior version without first removing that prior version. Can I safely install SeaMonkey 2 over SeaMonkey 1.1.18 without first deleting the latter? No, SM 2 is a whole new major version and deserves a clean install. I recommend moving the old one out of the way, installing the new one and copying files back as needed (e.g. plugins, searchplugins). Note that old dictionaries should work but newer ones (Hunspell compatible) are recommended. At first launch SM 2 will migrate only one profile (and disable/remove all extensions from the copy). To migrate additional profiles, read http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where is Form Manager in 2.0?
On 10/27/2009 3:34 PM Tom Pamin wrote: How do you access the new Form Manager in 2.0? I can't find it. The new form manager works under the hood, there is no special dialog (other than Preferences). Just enter something in a form and SM 2 will keep a record of it, offering it when you come back as a drop-down list (click into form fields or press cursor down in them). Basically the same as what Firefox has. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2 Update could not be installed
I was wondering if they were getting through. David E. Ross wrote: On 10/27/2009 12:04 PM, Rob Steinmetz wrote: Windows XP. I had RC2 installed. I updated to SeaMonkey 2.0 as administrator but my user account still shows a download ready to install but fails to install it. When SeaMonkey restarts it give the the error below. The update could not be installed. Please make sure there are no other copies of SeaMonkey running on your computer, and then restart SeaMonkey to try again. If anyone can see this please reply. Yes, I can read your message. However, I don't know how to help you. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Print encoding in SeaMonkey 2
I have problems printing form Seamonkey 2 on Windows XP. It seems the printer is not getting the right characters and I'm getting gibberish. The screen display is fine, so I'm not sure what is going on. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: IE Tab for 2.0?
On 10/27/2009 3:51 PM Tom Pamin wrote: Is there a way to get the old IE Tab plugin (npietab.dll) to work in 2.0)? If not, what do we use? AFAIK there is no fully SM 2 compatible version of IE Tab yet. All version I tested (1.3.3, 1.5, 1.5 dev; all installed with the extensions compatibility check disabled) basically worked in that they used IE's rendering engine to e.g. display http://www.windowsupdate.com/ (which is on the extension's default white list) and seemed to respect the white list settings. All those versions also had in common that they didn't show IE Tab anywhere outside the Add-on Manager (and xSidebar's configuration drop-down), i.e. neither in the Tools menu nor the status bar. I guess the menu/status bar overlays need some adjustments for SM 2. Maybe you could try and ask the extension's author to make it compatible with SM 2? Alternatively you may add your request to this thread: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=500361 HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Master Password] Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info
Neil wrote: NoOp wrote: On 10/19/2009 04:10 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: The second I don't know whether is a Bug or an annoyance. I have a Master Password set. And when the password window comes up its dead I can not type in Password. I have to cancel it at which time It comes back this time its active and I can type it in. I hadn't experienced this previously, so on a test VirtualBox install w/Win2KPro Except Phillip is using a Mac, and dialogs behave... weirdly. Are there any other Mac users having problems entering their master password? I'm using a Mac. After installing SeaMonkey 2.0: - the box requesting my master password kept popping up (I can't recall setting one by the way) - boxes popped up for all my email account passwords, after entering them, I could see my mail, but SeaMonkey was putting up extra Draft, Sent, etc. folders - the master password box kept getting in the way of things, and I couldn't get out of SeaMonkey without a forced quit Needless to say, I've reverted to Seamonkey 1.x and all is working again. Also, needless to say, I'm not willing to do a hard reset on the master password and lose all my passwords, cookies, etc. Rather a problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: IE Tab for 2.0?
Jens Hatlak wrote: On 10/27/2009 3:51 PM Tom Pamin wrote: Is there a way to get the old IE Tab plugin (npietab.dll) to work in 2.0)? If not, what do we use? AFAIK there is no fully SM 2 compatible version of IE Tab yet. All version I tested (1.3.3, 1.5, 1.5 dev; all installed with the extensions compatibility check disabled) basically worked in that they used IE's rendering engine to e.g. display http://www.windowsupdate.com/ (which is on the extension's default white list) and seemed to respect the white list settings. All those versions also had in common that they didn't show IE Tab anywhere outside the Add-on Manager (and xSidebar's configuration drop-down), i.e. neither in the Tools menu nor the status bar. I guess the menu/status bar overlays need some adjustments for SM 2. Maybe you could try and ask the extension's author to make it compatible with SM 2? Alternatively you may add your request to this thread: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=500361 HTH Jens Thanks - how did you get it to work if it didn't show up anywhere? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
Tomas Thrainsson wrote: On Oct 27, 10:30 am, Robert Kaiserka...@kairo.at wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite today Oops, forgot another followup-to, please reply only to mozilla.support.seamonkey! Robert Kaiser I'm sorry to say, but there's a problem with the latest release. I upgraded it from 1.1.18 and after the upgrade I had a strange occurrence. Every time I try to run Seamonkey, it shuts down all by itself without ever opening a window. I tried downloading it again without any change. I hope this gets addressed, because I really like this client, at least up to now. Tomas Thrainsson Well, I just installed 2.0 final over the top of 1.1.14 on an XP box, snd all went very smoothly, so it is not a generic problem, but something about your system. The best thing for you to do would be to post a separate topic, and give more information about your system, for example, what service packs are installed, and how you installed, over the top of the existing installation, or did you uninstall first, for example. Posting a separate topic will get your problem more attention, rather then having it hide here in an announcement thread. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.0 destroys previous e-mail inboxes
Hi, I have just installed SeaMonkey 2.0. Unfortunately, the installation deleted ALL my previous e-mails. I have been using SeaMonkey 1.1.18, had configured three different e-mail accounts with a total amount of about 5GB of e-mails. SeaMonkey 2.0 literally deleted the first account (the respective directory on the HD is really empty) whilst the mails for the second and third account are still in their respective directories on the HD, but are not visualized in their inboxes of the new version of SeaMonkey. All three accounts were identically configured (POP3) and connected to the same e-mail server. I can download and send new e-mails, but have lost access to all my previous mails. Mozilla should inform their users that they risk loosing their existing e-mails when they install SeaMonkey 2.0. This is horrible and I hope that I can recover my lost e-mails from a second copy on another PC. Do you have any suggestions how to import inboxes from the previous version? Is there any way to get access to the existing inboxes created by SeaMonkey 1.1.18 on the same PC which are still on the hard disk but do not appear in the new inboxes? Thanks for your help! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Master Password] Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info
Miles Fidelman a écrit : Neil wrote: NoOp wrote: On 10/19/2009 04:10 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: The second I don't know whether is a Bug or an annoyance. I have a Master Password set. And when the password window comes up its dead I can not type in Password. I have to cancel it at which time It comes back this time its active and I can type it in. I hadn't experienced this previously, so on a test VirtualBox install w/Win2KPro Except Phillip is using a Mac, and dialogs behave... weirdly. Are there any other Mac users having problems entering their master password? I'm using a Mac. After installing SeaMonkey 2.0: - the box requesting my master password kept popping up (I can't recall setting one by the way) - boxes popped up for all my email account passwords, after entering them, I could see my mail, but SeaMonkey was putting up extra Draft, Sent, etc. folders - the master password box kept getting in the way of things, and I couldn't get out of SeaMonkey without a forced quit Needless to say, I've reverted to Seamonkey 1.x and all is working again. Also, needless to say, I'm not willing to do a hard reset on the master password and lose all my passwords, cookies, etc. Rather a problem. Hi, I'm using Mac and had the same problem. I just set my master password to '' (empty) and none of my password, cookie,... was deleted. It just stop to ask Master pwd! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2 and Bookmarks
Jens Hatlak wrote: On 10/27/2009 10:14 PM David E. Ross wrote: With SeaMonkey 1.1.x, my home page was my bookmarks file (bookmarks.html in my profile). A survey done by Mozillazine some years ago indicated a significant number of users have their bookmarks as their home page. With bookmarks now in a database, how do I do this with SeaMonkey 2? The bookmarks format is still the same and won't change for the SM 2.0.x product line, but probably for SM 2.1. Or more technical: The Places back-end is only used for history currently. Firefox 3.5 has the preference browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML, which should refresh the ancient bookmarks.html on shutdown if set to true. I guess SM 2.1 will inherit that pref in due course so cross reference to bookmarks.html like OP describes will continue to be possible. /john ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: IE Tab for 2.0?
On 10/27/2009 11:41 PM Tom Pamin wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: (...) All those versions also had in common that they didn't show IE Tab anywhere outside the Add-on Manager (and xSidebar's configuration drop-down) (...) Thanks - how did you get it to work if it didn't show up anywhere? As I said the configuration dialog can be accessed (see above). I cannot recommend to use any of those versions productively, though. They seem to break the location bar (the address doesn't change when different rendering engines are used). Anyway, my testing ends here, please see my last posting for how to proceed to achieve actual compatibility. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: IE Tab for 2.0?
Tom Pamin wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: On 10/27/2009 3:51 PM Tom Pamin wrote: Is there a way to get the old IE Tab plugin (npietab.dll) to work in 2.0)? If not, what do we use? AFAIK there is no fully SM 2 compatible version of IE Tab yet. All version I tested (1.3.3, 1.5, 1.5 dev; all installed with the extensions compatibility check disabled) basically worked in that they used IE's rendering engine to e.g. display http://www.windowsupdate.com/ (which is on the extension's default white list) and seemed to respect the white list settings. All those versions also had in common that they didn't show IE Tab anywhere outside the Add-on Manager (and xSidebar's configuration drop-down), i.e. neither in the Tools menu nor the status bar. I guess the menu/status bar overlays need some adjustments for SM 2. Maybe you could try and ask the extension's author to make it compatible with SM 2? Alternatively you may add your request to this thread: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=500361 HTH Jens Thanks - how did you get it to work if it didn't show up anywhere? Is this under Autocomplete in Preferences? I can't get it to do any filling in of forms on any page so far?? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2
First, I cleared out SeaMonkey 1.1.18. I deleted its entire installation folder and all profile folders. (I saved the profiles on a different hard drive; I'll have to retrieve the plugins from the backup I ran about a half-hour before.) Then, I installed SeaMonkey 2.0 on Windows XP SP2. I did a custom install, deselecting Chatzilla. I installed in [C:\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe]. At the end, I got a window asking if I wanted to launch SeaMonkey. I responded positively. I then got an error popup with the message: SeaMonkey is already running, but is not reponding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing SeaMonkey process, or restart your system. I checked the Windows Task Manager (Ctrl-Alt-Delete) -- both Applications and Processes tabs -- and cannot find SeaMonkey running. When I did a warm reboot, I got the same error popup. Please DO NOT respond with a link or reference to a Web page. At the moment, I don't have a working browser. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where is Form Manager in 2.0?
Jens Hatlak wrote: On 10/27/2009 3:34 PM Tom Pamin wrote: How do you access the new Form Manager in 2.0? I can't find it. The new form manager works under the hood, there is no special dialog (other than Preferences). Just enter something in a form and SM 2 will keep a record of it, offering it when you come back as a drop-down list (click into form fields or press cursor down in them). Basically the same as what Firefox has. HTH Jens Is this under Autocomplete in Preferences? I can't get it to do any filling in of forms on any page so far?? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 destroys previous e-mail inboxes
Claus wrote: Hi, I have just installed SeaMonkey 2.0. Unfortunately, the installation deleted ALL my previous e-mails. I have been using SeaMonkey 1.1.18, had configured three different e-mail accounts with a total amount of about 5GB of e-mails. SeaMonkey 2.0 literally deleted the first account (the respective directory on the HD is really empty) whilst the mails for the second and third account are still in their respective directories on the HD, but are not visualized in their inboxes of the new version of SeaMonkey. All three accounts were identically configured (POP3) and connected to the same e-mail server. I can download and send new e-mails, but have lost access to all my previous mails. Mozilla should inform their users that they risk loosing their existing e-mails when they install SeaMonkey 2.0. This is horrible and I hope that I can recover my lost e-mails from a second copy on another PC. Do you have any suggestions how to import inboxes from the previous version? Is there any way to get access to the existing inboxes created by SeaMonkey 1.1.18 on the same PC which are still on the hard disk but do not appear in the new inboxes? Thanks for your help! Okay, you do realize that SeaMonkey 2.0 has a different profile location then 1.1.x? The profile transfer wizard usually does a very good job of copying the files, however you do have an unusually large am mount of email to be transferred. I suspect that the tranfer wizard may not have been able to handle that large an amount in your main email account. The original profile is left intact. If I am reading you correctly, your should be able to transfer the files from the old profile to the new profile manually. Give a little more information. Did the profile wizard seem to complete properly? Is your first account listed as an account, with blank folders, or is it not listed at all. Did you uninstall the old version? If you did not, open it and verify that your mail is still there (it will be). If SM 2.0 does not show your first account, create it in the Account wizard. Do not allow it to download any mail yet. Once the account is created, close SeaMonkey. Navigate to your original profile folder: C:\\Documents and Settings\(username)\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\(profilename)\.slt In the Mail subfolder, find the flder associated with your first account, which will be named for the POP server. Copy the whole folder. Go to your new profile location: C:\\Documents and Settings\(username)\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles There should be a folder called .default, your new profile. Open that, open the mail subfolder, and paste in the copied folder, allowing to overwrite the existing (empty) folder that is there. Open SeaMonkey, and your mail should be restored. Repeat as needed for the other accounts. If they are showing as accounts, you can probably just copy their folders over from the Mail folder in the old profile to the Mail folder in the new. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where is Form Manager in 2.0? was: IE Tab for 2.0?
On 10/28/2009 12:03 AM Tom Pamin wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Thanks - how did you get it to work if it didn't show up anywhere? Is this under Autocomplete in Preferences? I can't get it to do any filling in of forms on any page so far?? I think you're mixing up topics here. ;-) Check the subject. To answer your question: It's under Browser/History/Form and Search History. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2
David E. Ross: First, I cleared out SeaMonkey 1.1.18. I deleted its entire installation folder and all profile folders. Why? Then SM2 has nothing to migrate. (I saved the profiles on a different hard drive; A good step. Then, I installed SeaMonkey 2.0 on Windows XP SP2. I did a custom install, deselecting Chatzilla. I installed in [C:\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe]. I never used the installer. At the end, I got a window asking if I wanted to launch SeaMonkey. I responded positively. I then got an error popup with the message: SeaMonkey is already running, but is not reponding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing SeaMonkey process, or restart your system. I checked the Windows Task Manager (Ctrl-Alt-Delete) -- both Applications and Processes tabs -- and cannot find SeaMonkey running. When I did a warm reboot, I got the same error popup. Look in your profile if there is a file with the name parent.lock. If so, delete it. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2
David E. Ross wrote: First, I cleared out SeaMonkey 1.1.18. I deleted its entire installation folder and all profile folders. (I saved the profiles on a different hard drive; I'll have to retrieve the plugins from the backup I ran about a half-hour before.) Then, I installed SeaMonkey 2.0 on Windows XP SP2. I did a custom install, deselecting Chatzilla. I installed in [C:\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe]. At the end, I got a window asking if I wanted to launch SeaMonkey. I responded positively. I then got an error popup with the message: SeaMonkey is already running, but is not reponding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing SeaMonkey process, or restart your system. I checked the Windows Task Manager (Ctrl-Alt-Delete) -- both Applications and Processes tabs -- and cannot find SeaMonkey running. When I did a warm reboot, I got the same error popup. Please DO NOT respond with a link or reference to a Web page. At the moment, I don't have a working browser. Surely you have Internet Explorer. Well, I guess, we can argue the meaning of working browser. ;) You might want to install Firefox as a backup. I always keep it handy, just in case. Remind me what version of Windows you are running. So far, I've got it up on XP SP3 with no issues. However, the difference in our experiences is that I have not tried installing it without an existing profile from which to transfer. I'll give a whirl and see what I discover. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Does Form Manager in 2.0 Work?
Can anyone get the new version of Form Manager to work? I can't see how to use it, and so far it doesn't do anything. Very disappointing. I may have to stay with 1.18 now. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: email messages from one online site will not show remote content
Tony Higgins wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 10/23/09 17:47, Tony Higgins wrote: Tony Higgins wrote: I regularly receive messages from the online site of a National retailer that have various offers and coupons. Recently I discovered that I can no longer view the remote content in them. This feature is annoying to me more than it's a benefit. I found in the preferences where I can turn it off but that doesn't help with these messages. I've deleted the sender from my address book and then readded it by clicking where it says Click here to always show remote content from . It doesn't fix things. All remote content from other senders displays fine without this problem. I assume that somewhere along the line this sender has become blacklisted in a file. Can somebody tell me where that is and how ti edit it to fix this? Thanks, Tony By the way, I forwarded one of these messages back to my Yahoo mail account and opened it today at work from Yahoo's site. It displays fine there. But none of the messages from this sender display OK in my Sea Monkey mail account. Tony Is it possible that the e-mail message contains only an HTML version and your SM client is configured to display the message as plain text? Try changing View - Message Body - Original HTML If it's already set to Original HTML, try setting it to plain text. Thanks for the suggestion. I looked into that. But I would like to get these and other messages with the original HTML. I only have trouble with the one sender. It is a National retailer who sends me offers. I received a coupon which I would like to print but cannot because it is broken up. I saw it online at work in my Yahoo mail account and it looked fine. But when it downloaded to my SeaMonkey mail account I can't see the message. Several times I've gone through the cycle of telling it to always show remote content which creates an entry for it in my address book but does not clear up the problem. I then delete the entry and go through the process again with no luck. Whenever I get a message from a new sender I do this and it clears up the message and all future messages from the same sender. I just want to know if SeaMonkey has some kind of log file that retains sender names that I can clear it from. For now, I've filtered my Yahoo online account to send messages from this sender to a folder where I can read them online. But I would like to fix this if possible. Thanks, Tony I'm still having trouble with this issue. I thought I'd see what happened if I used the message filters to send these messages to another email address to see if the behavior was the same there. It didn't work because I got a message saying the message filtering could not be applied because the inbox was busy. Please somebody tell me how to resolve this. Thanks, Tony ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2
In the meantime, I've reverted back to SM 1.1.18. I won't use IE except for downloading and installing Windows XP updates because I've declined to install various security updates for it. Thus, I don't consider it a full-function, working browser in my configuration. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2
On 10/27/2009 3:24 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: David E. Ross: First, I cleared out SeaMonkey 1.1.18. I deleted its entire installation folder and all profile folders. Why? Then SM2 has nothing to migrate. (I saved the profiles on a different hard drive; A good step. Then, I installed SeaMonkey 2.0 on Windows XP SP2. I did a custom install, deselecting Chatzilla. I installed in [C:\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe]. I never used the installer. At the end, I got a window asking if I wanted to launch SeaMonkey. I responded positively. I then got an error popup with the message: SeaMonkey is already running, but is not reponding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing SeaMonkey process, or restart your system. I checked the Windows Task Manager (Ctrl-Alt-Delete) -- both Applications and Processes tabs -- and cannot find SeaMonkey running. When I did a warm reboot, I got the same error popup. Look in your profile if there is a file with the name parent.lock. If so, delete it. Hartmut Regarding my four old profiles, they were not in a standard location. I had Profile Manager (SM 1.1.x) put them in [C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Mozilla]. Can SM 2 migrate one of them from there on installation? Is this the cause of my problem? -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2
Leonidas Jones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: First, I cleared out SeaMonkey 1.1.18. I deleted its entire installation folder and all profile folders. (I saved the profiles on a different hard drive; I'll have to retrieve the plugins from the backup I ran about a half-hour before.) Then, I installed SeaMonkey 2.0 on Windows XP SP2. I did a custom install, deselecting Chatzilla. I installed in [C:\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe]. At the end, I got a window asking if I wanted to launch SeaMonkey. I responded positively. I then got an error popup with the message: SeaMonkey is already running, but is not reponding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing SeaMonkey process, or restart your system. I checked the Windows Task Manager (Ctrl-Alt-Delete) -- both Applications and Processes tabs -- and cannot find SeaMonkey running. When I did a warm reboot, I got the same error popup. Please DO NOT respond with a link or reference to a Web page. At the moment, I don't have a working browser. Surely you have Internet Explorer. Well, I guess, we can argue the meaning of working browser. ;) You might want to install Firefox as a backup. I always keep it handy, just in case. Remind me what version of Windows you are running. So far, I've got it up on XP SP3 with no issues. However, the difference in our experiences is that I have not tried installing it without an existing profile from which to transfer. I'll give a whirl and see what I discover. Lee For what it may be worth, I just installed SM 2.0 on XP Pro SP3. SeaMonkey had never been installed on this system. It installed and started up with no issues. Again, can you clarify exactly what version of Windows you are running? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does Form Manager in 2.0 Work?
Sandy Pamin wrote: Can anyone get the new version of Form Manager to work? I can't see how to use it, and so far it doesn't do anything. Very disappointing. I may have to stay with 1.18 now. Form data is filled in with no problem at all from here. Have you checked in EditPreferencesBrowserHistory, to make sure that form completion is enabled? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2
On Oct 27, 7:39 pm, David E. Ross nob...@nowhere.invalid wrote: In the meantime, I've reverted back to SM 1.1.18. I won't use IE except for downloading and installing Windows XP updates because I've declined to install various security updates for it. Thus, I don't consider it a full-function, working browser in my configuration. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. I had 1.1.18 installed and running fine. I downloaded 2.0 (just a little while ago), installed it (no problems), then, like David it asked if I wanted to run. I said yes and nothing happened. I also double-clicked the SM icon in the SM folder: nothing. I have only one profile and I did not uninstall 1.1.18. I looked in the SeaMonkey folder and the seamonkey.exe file had a date from September. I would have expected it to have an October date. I have reloaded 1.1.18 but am disappointed with the 2.0 problem. I'm running XP-SP3. Thanks for any help. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with Seamonkey 2.0
Tomas Thrainsson wrote: On Oct 27, 9:35 pm, Tomas Thrainssonred...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry to say, but there's a problem with the latest release. I upgraded it from 1.1.18 and after the upgrade I had a strange occurrence. Every time I try to run Seamonkey, it shuts down all by itself without ever opening a window. I tried downloading it again without any change. I had the same problem with the alpha releases, so I always reverted back to trusty old 1.1x series that have remained rock solid. I hope this gets addressed, because I really like this client, at least up to now. Tomas Thrainsson I forgot to mention that I'm running this on Windows XP SP3 Tomas This should really be posted on mozilla.support.seamonkey. Its been years since there was a Mozilla suite, no one will see it here. I'm crossposting this to mozilla.support.seamonkey, and setting a followup to that group. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Where To Install SM2..
I'm currently running SM 1.1.18 but install all my programs on my D drive. Yes, I'm one of those people. 1.1.18 is installed at: D:\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey When I go to install SM 2, it wants to install in: C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\ Can I install 2 in: D:\SeaMonkey2 and leave my older version alone? It works so good for me and I'm seeing the thread Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2 by David E Ross and nr's reply having the same problem and just like David I don't use IE for anything but MS updates. Houston, do we have a problem? -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
In news:q_wdny42wbu5vnvxnz2dnuvz_j6dn...@mozilla.org, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite today: SeaMonkey 2.0 Congratulations and thanks to everybody involved! -- »Q« /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ / against html e-mailX http://asciiribbon.org/ / \ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where To Install SM2..
JD wrote: I'm currently running SM 1.1.18 but install all my programs on my D drive. Yes, I'm one of those people. 1.1.18 is installed at: D:\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey When I go to install SM 2, it wants to install in: C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\ Can I install 2 in: D:\SeaMonkey2 and leave my older version alone? It works so good for me and I'm seeing the thread Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2 by David E Ross and nr's reply having the same problem and just like David I don't use IE for anything but MS updates. Houston, do we have a problem? Well, most people are installing with no problem, but it is brand new software,so there are bound to be some glitches. First of all, even if you install SM 2.0 in the default location, it will not overwrite the existing SM 1.1.x. It installs to its own location, and sets up a new profile in a new location. As long as you do not uninstall SM 1.1.x, you cn easily run the two independently of each other. Therefore, you can select a custom install, and place the program wherever you like. If something goes wrong, you can always run SM 1.1.x, and fix the 2.0 install at your convenience. Most likely, nothing will go wrong. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Freezing in SM2
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 10/26/2009 4:45 AM, David Wilkinson wrote: /snip/ RSS doesn't exist in Mac version of SM 1.1.8 never has. you could add an extension but didn't like it. Even in FF I don't use it. Actually, Forumzilla worked very well on 1.1.x. Generally the RSS reader native to SM 2.0 Mail/News is better, but Forumzilla didn't freeze 1.1.x quite the way RSS does in 2.0. Again though, I suspect that my system of placing data on an external drive may have something to do with that. Lee I tried another other than the one you suggest. never saw anything interest, and caused more problems in fact I had to remove all the chrome items the re-download then install what I had. Can you disable the RSS in SM2?? No need to disable it, just don't use it. Lee People here are complaining that the RSS is the reason from Freezing problems while it updates. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2
On 10/27/2009 3:45 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: First, I cleared out SeaMonkey 1.1.18. I deleted its entire installation folder and all profile folders. (I saved the profiles on a different hard drive; I'll have to retrieve the plugins from the backup I ran about a half-hour before.) Then, I installed SeaMonkey 2.0 on Windows XP SP2. I did a custom install, deselecting Chatzilla. I installed in [C:\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe]. At the end, I got a window asking if I wanted to launch SeaMonkey. I responded positively. I then got an error popup with the message: SeaMonkey is already running, but is not reponding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing SeaMonkey process, or restart your system. I checked the Windows Task Manager (Ctrl-Alt-Delete) -- both Applications and Processes tabs -- and cannot find SeaMonkey running. When I did a warm reboot, I got the same error popup. Please DO NOT respond with a link or reference to a Web page. At the moment, I don't have a working browser. Surely you have Internet Explorer. Well, I guess, we can argue the meaning of working browser. ;) You might want to install Firefox as a backup. I always keep it handy, just in case. Remind me what version of Windows you are running. So far, I've got it up on XP SP3 with no issues. However, the difference in our experiences is that I have not tried installing it without an existing profile from which to transfer. I'll give a whirl and see what I discover. Lee For what it may be worth, I just installed SM 2.0 on XP Pro SP3. SeaMonkey had never been installed on this system. It installed and started up with no issues. Again, can you clarify exactly what version of Windows you are running? Lee Windows XP Home Edition 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600 (Build 2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.090804-1412) -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Master Password] Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info
Miles Fidelman wrote: the master password box kept getting in the way of things, and I couldn't get out of SeaMonkey without a forced quit Needless to say, I've reverted to Seamonkey 1.x and all is working again. Also, needless to say, I'm not willing to do a hard reset on the master password and lose all my passwords, cookies, etc. If you weren't prompted for the master password in SeaMonkey 1.x then you probably weren't using it and you won't lose anything by resetting it. I say probably because I only know of two uses in SeaMonkey 1.x: 1. It was used to protect client certificates (e.g. S/MIME personal certificates) 2. There was a preference that could use it to encrypt your passwords. This preference was disabled by default. See Preferences - Privacy Security - Passwords - Encrypting vs. Obscuring. -- Warning: May contain traces of nuts. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
Phillip Jones wrote: »Q« wrote: In news:q_wdny42wbu5vnvxnz2dnuvz_j6dn...@mozilla.org, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite today: SeaMonkey 2.0 Congratulations and thanks to everybody involved! Now that it is Gold and SkyPilot and QuoteColors now works I'll have to figure out how I can move my current setup in 1.1.8, over again. when I was trying The Beta's for first time I had it copy over all my setup from 1.1.8 Since I've only used the browser section after I found out quote colors, didn't work and was deal breaker. Today I downloaded Quotecolors and it works. So I now want to move on. Besides the news and Email I've also added some filter rules. and other items. Can I completely remove the Profile Folder and do the import? From what you are saying, you have already imported. If you have another profile to import, do not delete the profile folder until you have imported the data. Once you are happy with how 2.0 is working, it would be a good idea to delete the old profile folder, to save disk space. If you have installed 2.0 anywhere other than Applications, move it to the Applications folder, and let it overwrite 1.1.8. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:37:53 -0700, NoOp wrote: On 10/27/2009 03:27 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite today: SeaMonkey 2.0, now available for free download from the seamonkey-project.org website, melds the ideas behind Netscape Communicator with the modern platform of Firefox 3.5 to create one of the most compelling open source products for advanced Internet users. Well done! Any idea when a 64bit linux version will be available? As soon as Hendikins gets off shift and gets back home to where his 64bit build machine lives. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - 64 bit versions - was release announcement
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, NoOp wrote: Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:37:53 -0700 From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey, mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here! On 10/27/2009 03:27 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite today: SeaMonkey 2.0, now available for free download from the seamonkey-project.org website, melds the ideas behind Netscape Communicator with the modern platform of Firefox 3.5 to create one of the most compelling open source products for advanced Internet users. Well done! Any idea when a 64bit linux version will be available? And, 64 bit versions for MS Windows? My missus, who has just upgraded from Vista to Win 7 (32-bit to 64 bit, also) on her 64 bit laptop, cannot find a 64 bit version of Firefly or Firefox or whatever. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Bret Busby wrote: Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:50:39 +0800 (WST) From: Bret Busby b...@busby.net To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here! On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Robert Kaiser wrote: Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:27:47 +0100 From: Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey, mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey, mozilla.support.seamonkey, mozilla.dev.planning, mozilla.support.mozilla-suite, netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey, mozilla.dev.l10n Subject: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here! The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite today: SeaMonkey 2.0, now available for free download from the seamonkey-project.org website, melds the ideas behind Netscape Communicator with the modern platform of Firefox 3.5 to create one of the most compelling open source products for advanced Internet users. snip Due to the reported problems, it seems a bit too problematic to update from 1.1.18 to 2.0, now. Maybe people like me, who need to be consident that our systems are (relatively) stable, need to wait until 2.1 is released. Ah, the word consident, should have been confident. Too much haste. And I have not yet been able to get spell checking in PINE, to work. One thing that concerns me, is the use of the .tar.bz2 (files like that used to be .tar.gz - the .bz2 entended extension, seems a bit different) file, rather than a package file (like .deb), for Linux. I run Ubuntu Linux 8.04LTS, Debian 5 Linux, and Windows XP with service packs (I believe that I have SP3, in addition to SP2, which I do know was installed, but I am not definite about SP3), although the Win XP should probably now be replaced with Win 7, so I think it is probably best, for stability, to wait until if and when Seamonkey 2 (or, even better, from the reporting of the problems, version 2.1, with all the bugs of version 2, fixed) makes it into the package repositories for the Linux distributions. Also, it would need to be explicitly stated, that Seamonkey v2.x would definitely be able to be installed in parallel with an existing installation of 1.1.x, and, be able to import settings/profiles/history from v1.1.x, on each of the different operating systems, so that the two could be run in parallel (parallel implementation is alsways safest, in software development), to ensure that we do not lose data, as has been reported as having happened with other people who have upgraded from 1.1.18 to 2, or who have replaced 1.1.18 with 2. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does Form Manager in 2.0 Work?
Leonidas Jones wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Sandy Pamin wrote: Can anyone get the new version of Form Manager to work? I can't see how to use it, and so far it doesn't do anything. Very disappointing. I may have to stay with 1.18 now. Form data is filled in with no problem at all from here. Have you checked in EditPreferencesBrowserHistory, to make sure that form completion is enabled? Lee Can you give me a link to a form for an example, so I can try it? I do have it enabled in Preferences. I can't see that this would do any good, since it is my form information. Amazon and eBay are both working from here, as two examples. Lee Must be my old age showing - I can't get it to do anything. Can you give me a step by step with an example of how this works? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Freezing in SM2
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:21:15 -0400, Phillip Jones wrote: No need to disable it, just don't use it. Lee People here are complaining that the RSS is the reason from Freezing problems while it updates. Look at this logically. If you don't subscribe to any RSS feeds there won't be any for SeaMonkey to freeze on. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: IE Tab for 2.0?
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:10:01 +0100, Jens Hatlak wrote: On 10/27/2009 3:51 PM Tom Pamin wrote: Is there a way to get the old IE Tab plugin (npietab.dll) to work in 2.0)? If not, what do we use? AFAIK there is no fully SM 2 compatible version of IE Tab yet. All version I tested (1.3.3, 1.5, 1.5 dev; all installed with the extensions compatibility check disabled) basically worked in that they used IE's rendering engine to e.g. display http://www.windowsupdate.com/ (which is on the extension's default white list) and seemed to respect the white list settings. All those versions also had in common that they didn't show IE Tab anywhere outside the Add-on Manager (and xSidebar's configuration drop-down), i.e. neither in the Tools menu nor the status bar. I guess the menu/status bar overlays need some adjustments for SM 2. Maybe you could try and ask the extension's author to make it compatible with SM 2? Alternatively you may add your request to this thread: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=500361 IETab developmental work has stopped. You should look at the actively developed fork Coral IETab instead. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2
This is exactly my problem as well. I installed SM 2.0 tonight on my WinXP Professional SP2 system that already has 1.1.18 working fine. After install I was prompted to launch SeaMonkey but nothing happens. It will not launch - at all - from the desktop icon or directly from the .exe file. No sign of it in Task Manager processes either. Fortunately my 1.1.18 is untouched, so I'll probably use that for the foreseeable future. I'd hate to have to switch to FF and TB since I've used the suite since Navigator 4 but this just isn't working for me. Oh, the only parent.lock file I found anywhere was in my old SeaMonkey profile, none in the SM 2 directories at all. I deleted it as suggested, but no effect. nr wrote: On Oct 27, 7:39 pm, David E. Ross nob...@nowhere.invalid wrote: In the meantime, I've reverted back to SM 1.1.18. I won't use IE except for downloading and installing Windows XP updates because I've declined to install various security updates for it. Thus, I don't consider it a full-function, working browser in my configuration. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. I had 1.1.18 installed and running fine. I downloaded 2.0 (just a little while ago), installed it (no problems), then, like David it asked if I wanted to run. I said yes and nothing happened. I also double-clicked the SM icon in the SM folder: nothing. I have only one profile and I did not uninstall 1.1.18. I looked in the SeaMonkey folder and the seamonkey.exe file had a date from September. I would have expected it to have an October date. I have reloaded 1.1.18 but am disappointed with the 2.0 problem. I'm running XP-SP3. Thanks for any help. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0 and favicons
Al wrote: Am I correct that SM 2.0 still cannot display favicons on the personal toolbar? No. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does Form Manager in 2.0 Work?
Tom Pamin wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Sandy Pamin wrote: Can anyone get the new version of Form Manager to work? I can't see how to use it, and so far it doesn't do anything. Very disappointing. I may have to stay with 1.18 now. Form data is filled in with no problem at all from here. Have you checked in EditPreferencesBrowserHistory, to make sure that form completion is enabled? Lee Can you give me a link to a form for an example, so I can try it? I do have it enabled in Preferences. I can't see that this would do any good, since it is my form information. Amazon and eBay are both working from here, as two examples. Lee Must be my old age showing - I can't get it to do anything. Can you give me a step by step with an example of how this works? Not really. As an example, I go to the Amazon Where's my Stuff page, to check on the status of an order: http://www.amazon.com/wheres-my-stuff My email address and password, which I have entered on a previous visit, are already entered. I just click on the sign in button, and it works. I've been running SM 2.0 full time since Alpha 3, so I can't really speak to how form information migrates from 1.1.x. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where To Install SM2..
Leonidas Jones wrote: JD wrote: I'm currently running SM 1.1.18 but install all my programs on my D drive. Yes, I'm one of those people. 1.1.18 is installed at: D:\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey When I go to install SM 2, it wants to install in: C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\ Can I install 2 in: D:\SeaMonkey2 and leave my older version alone? It works so good for me and I'm seeing the thread Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2 by David E Ross and nr's reply having the same problem and just like David I don't use IE for anything but MS updates. Houston, do we have a problem? Well, most people are installing with no problem, but it is brand new software,so there are bound to be some glitches. First of all, even if you install SM 2.0 in the default location, it will not overwrite the existing SM 1.1.x. It installs to its own location, and sets up a new profile in a new location. As long as you do not uninstall SM 1.1.x, you cn easily run the two independently of each other. Therefore, you can select a custom install, and place the program wherever you like. If something goes wrong, you can always run SM 1.1.x, and fix the 2.0 install at your convenience. Most likely, nothing will go wrong. Lee Thanks Lee. I'll try it as soon as I have a little spare time and post back as to how it went. From the screenshots SM 2 looks to be nothing more than an improvement on what I already use. -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.0 Form Management
A new form manager replaces all previous web form management, and automatically keeps a record of what you type into forms and presents you these options in a drop-down list when you come back. I haven't downloaded the new version yet but have a question based on some previous reading on here. Is there any way in 2.0 to fill a complete form with 1 or 2 clicks(like with the current form manager) or are you forced to make a choice from drop downd in EACH form field? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
On 10/27/2009 06:48 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: Well done! Any idea when a 64bit linux version will be available? Well, there is seamonkey-2.0.source.tar.bz2 :) Hart dr mut You always make it so hard for me (joke) :-) http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-1.9.1/ [seamonkey-2.0.1pre.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2] My 64bit tester is still using that w/o issues so far. I wish I could build a 64bit test version on a 32bit VM machine, but haven't figured out how to do that just yet :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
On 10/27/2009 06:57 PM, Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:37:53 -0700, NoOp wrote: On 10/27/2009 03:27 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite today: SeaMonkey 2.0, now available for free download from the seamonkey-project.org website, melds the ideas behind Netscape Communicator with the modern platform of Firefox 3.5 to create one of the most compelling open source products for advanced Internet users. Well done! Any idea when a 64bit linux version will be available? As soon as Hendikins gets off shift and gets back home to where his 64bit build machine lives. Phil Thanks Phil. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
Robert Kaiser wrote: The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite today: SeaMonkey 2.0, now available for free download from the seamonkey-project.org website, melds the ideas behind Netscape Communicator with the modern platform of Firefox 3.5 to create one of the most compelling open source products for advanced Internet users. Bravo. Good work. Well, except for the totally ill-conceived trashing of the modal windows. If I have multiple accounts for a single site (say, American Express, which I do, and many many other sites), and the reason I stored that account info in SeaMonkey in the first place was because I can't and don't want to have to recall the arcane login info, then, no, the new paradigm doesn't work. If I can't remember that one login begins with 1 and the other login begins with e and the third login begins with j ... well, how the hell is this new paradigm better? I mean, look, I plugged all this data into SeaMonkey so SM could remember it, not me. WTFO? The whole point of that function is (well, was) so I don't have to remember, ok? And now you guys broke it. So I now have to remember all my logins in order to use SM's function. Admit it. You broke a perfectly good and useful function. We can argue later about WHY you broke it. But, admit it. The function is broken. The functionality is broken. The usability is broken. Stupid modal window? Users don't care about that argument. I care that I have a useful function on a Web site where I have 3 or 4 or 5 different logins. AND THE REASON I US SM AND IT'S LOGIN FUNCTION WAS ... I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO REMEMBER THIS SHIT!!! Got it now? So, okay, modal windows have been deemed inelegant by the programmers. Fine. No problem. Tell you what. Solve my problem and yours at the same time and I'll praise you. Screw me with nonsensical programming arguments? Sorry. You can't support it. There's no argument you can muster that says your argument outweighs normal usage like mine. Tell me, please. If a user of SM has 3 or 4 (or more) logins to a single site, and the whole purpose of using SM's password manager is to not have to remember any of those logins, so that when a user goes to a login URL he'll be tossed up a modal (sorry, stupid modal) window wherein he can go Oh! Right! My wife's account! No! My account! Oh no!!! My daughter's account! Ooops! My son's account ... Hey. If I wanted to keep all that shit in my brain I'd just use IE. Or something else. What the hell where you people thinking? So, ok, please, tell me. Tell me, in my usage, how am I to employ the new SM paradigm? How is this better for me? And, please, tell me, how does this new and better paradigm work when I log into a site where I have 2, 3, 4 or 5 login identities and I can't remember how any of them start? -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net When companies ship Styrofoam, what do they pack it in? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
On 10/27/2009 06:50 PM, Bret Busby wrote: Due to the reported problems, it seems a bit too problematic to update from 1.1.18 to 2.0, now. Maybe people like me, who need to be consident that our systems are (relatively) stable, need to wait until 2.1 is released. By then 1.1.18 will probably be in the Fx 2.0 and Tb 2.0 catagories. One thing that concerns me, is the use of the .tar.bz2 (files like that used to be .tar.gz - the .bz2 entended extension, seems a bit different) file, rather than a package file (like .deb), for Linux. Why? In Ubuntu all you do is download, open Nautilus, double-click the file, extract to your home folder, create a Applications link to the ~/home/seamonkey/seamonkey shell file and run. Or from a terminal: $ ~/home/seamonkey/ $ ./seamonkey or follow the install instructions: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/install-and-uninstall http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/install-and-uninstall#install_linux I run Ubuntu Linux 8.04LTS, Debian 5 Linux, See above. and Windows XP with service packs (I believe that I have SP3, in addition to SP2, which I do know was installed, but I am not definite about SP3), although the Win XP should probably now be replaced with Win 7, so I think it is probably best, for stability, to wait until if and when Seamonkey 2 (or, even better, from the reporting of the problems, version 2.1, with all the bugs of version 2, fixed) makes it into the package repositories for the Linux distributions. No idea if there is a question or statement in that. Also, it would need to be explicitly stated, that Seamonkey v2.x would definitely be able to be installed in parallel with an existing installation of 1.1.x, and, be able to import settings/profiles/history from v1.1.x, on each of the different operating systems, so that the two could be run in parallel (parallel implementation is alsways safest, in software development), to ensure that we do not lose data, as has been reported as having happened with other people who have upgraded from 1.1.18 to 2, or who have replaced 1.1.18 with 2. Or that. snip ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: more on zebra stripes
I had zebra stripes working with all of these using 1.17 with Stylish. Since updating to 1.18 the zebra stripes don't show up in any window upon start-up UNLESS I go into the Stylish window and UNCHECK/ReCHECK each style. Then it works till I restart Seamonkey. Can anyone help? Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: In the past I got zebra stripes to work in the mail/news [google for it], and just recently, I got that zebra in the address bar. Now, if anyone really cares, here are the scripts to get zebra stripes for the History Manager, the download manager, the bookmark manager, the address book, and the Password Manager. I think thats all there is. Of course, you can use any color you want. And all this goes into the userChrome.css file. Or, better yet, get Stylish: http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#stylish. Works far better than the file. You don't have to close and restart SM all the time. ss /* for history */ @namespace url(http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul); #history-window ::-moz-tree-row(odd) {background: #bfefff !important;} #history-window ::-moz-tree-row(even) {background: #eed2ee !important;} #history-window {font-weight: bold !important;} #history-window ::-moz-tree-cell-text(even) {color: darkblue !important;} #history-window ::-moz-tree-cell-text(odd) {color: red !important;} ss for the password manager, use the above and change #history-window for #signonviewer for the bookmark manager, use the above and change #history-window for #bookmark-window for the download manager, use the above and change #history-window for #downloadView for the address book is a two parter. The one with the names and addresses [on the right side], use the above and change #history-window for #abResultsTree then for the address books and mailing lists [on the left side], use the above and change #history-window for #dirTreeBox ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2
On 10/27/2009 4:44 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 10/27/2009 4:38 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 10/27/2009 3:45 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: First, I cleared out SeaMonkey 1.1.18. I deleted its entire installation folder and all profile folders. (I saved the profiles on a different hard drive; I'll have to retrieve the plugins from the backup I ran about a half-hour before.) Then, I installed SeaMonkey 2.0 on Windows XP SP2. I did a custom install, deselecting Chatzilla. I installed in [C:\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe]. At the end, I got a window asking if I wanted to launch SeaMonkey. I responded positively. I then got an error popup with the message: SeaMonkey is already running, but is not reponding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing SeaMonkey process, or restart your system. I checked the Windows Task Manager (Ctrl-Alt-Delete) -- both Applications and Processes tabs -- and cannot find SeaMonkey running. When I did a warm reboot, I got the same error popup. Please DO NOT respond with a link or reference to a Web page. At the moment, I don't have a working browser. Surely you have Internet Explorer. Well, I guess, we can argue the meaning of working browser. ;) You might want to install Firefox as a backup. I always keep it handy, just in case. Remind me what version of Windows you are running. So far, I've got it up on XP SP3 with no issues. However, the difference in our experiences is that I have not tried installing it without an existing profile from which to transfer. I'll give a whirl and see what I discover. Lee For what it may be worth, I just installed SM 2.0 on XP Pro SP3. SeaMonkey had never been installed on this system. It installed and started up with no issues. Again, can you clarify exactly what version of Windows you are running? Lee Windows XP Home Edition 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600 (Build 2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.090804-1412) Okay, thanks! Have you checked in the new profile location for parent.lock, as Hartmut suggested? That would be the obvious culprit. Lee By now, I've complete removed SM 2 and reverted back to SM 1.1.18. Perhaps tonight, I might have time to try to install SM 2 in its own folder with a distinct folder for its profiles. It's time for dinner, and then I have a 7:00pm PDT meeting to attend. Okay. I installed SM 2 in a separate folder. It works! I'm having trouble migrating profiles. I'll start a new thread for that problem. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where To Install SM2..
Leonidas Jones wrote: JD wrote: I'm currently running SM 1.1.18 but install all my programs on my D drive. Yes, I'm one of those people. 1.1.18 is installed at: D:\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey When I go to install SM 2, it wants to install in: C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\ Can I install 2 in: D:\SeaMonkey2 and leave my older version alone? It works so good for me and I'm seeing the thread Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2 by David E Ross and nr's reply having the same problem and just like David I don't use IE for anything but MS updates. Houston, do we have a problem? Well, most people are installing with no problem, but it is brand new software,so there are bound to be some glitches. First of all, even if you install SM 2.0 in the default location, it will not overwrite the existing SM 1.1.x. It installs to its own location, and sets up a new profile in a new location. As long as you do not uninstall SM 1.1.x, you cn easily run the two independently of each other. Therefore, you can select a custom install, and place the program wherever you like. If something goes wrong, you can always run SM 1.1.x, and fix the 2.0 install at your convenience. Most likely, nothing will go wrong. Lee Did not work for me. I installed in into D:\SeaMonkey2 and when I launch the .exe file in that folder I get my old SeaMonkey. SeaMonkey 1.1.18 The location and name of the file that gives me that version is: D:\SeaMonkey2\seamonkey.exe Right click Properties says: Version 1.9.1.4, Product Version: 2.0 Modified: 17 October 2009 12:08:30 Houston we have a problem. Windows XP home edition, SP3, latest updates, IE6. -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where To Install SM2..
JD wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: JD wrote: I'm currently running SM 1.1.18 but install all my programs on my D drive. Yes, I'm one of those people. 1.1.18 is installed at: D:\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey When I go to install SM 2, it wants to install in: C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\ Can I install 2 in: D:\SeaMonkey2 and leave my older version alone? It works so good for me and I'm seeing the thread Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2 by David E Ross and nr's reply having the same problem and just like David I don't use IE for anything but MS updates. Houston, do we have a problem? Well, most people are installing with no problem, but it is brand new software,so there are bound to be some glitches. First of all, even if you install SM 2.0 in the default location, it will not overwrite the existing SM 1.1.x. It installs to its own location, and sets up a new profile in a new location. As long as you do not uninstall SM 1.1.x, you cn easily run the two independently of each other. Therefore, you can select a custom install, and place the program wherever you like. If something goes wrong, you can always run SM 1.1.x, and fix the 2.0 install at your convenience. Most likely, nothing will go wrong. Lee Did not work for me. I installed in into D:\SeaMonkey2 and when I launch the .exe file in that folder I get my old SeaMonkey. SeaMonkey 1.1.18 The location and name of the file that gives me that version is: D:\SeaMonkey2\seamonkey.exe Right click Properties says: Version 1.9.1.4, Product Version: 2.0 Modified: 17 October 2009 12:08:30 Houston we have a problem. Windows XP home edition, SP3, latest updates, IE6. I think we probably need to have someon who knows Windows better then I to jump in. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2
Er, I meant it shows up empty in Password Manager Patrick Crumhorn wrote: My very large password file, while *appearing* to migrate (there is an identical .s file and key3.db file in both the 1.1.8 profile and in the new SM 2.0 profile), shows up empty in Profile Manager. This alone will keep me using 1.1.18 for a good long while, as it would literally take days of spare time to laboriously copy over each URL and password manually. Why does this not work? It seems like it should. Patrick Crumhorn wrote: This is exactly my problem as well. I installed SM 2.0 tonight on my WinXP Professional SP2 system that already has 1.1.18 working fine. After install I was prompted to launch SeaMonkey but nothing happens. It will not launch - at all - from the desktop icon or directly from the .exe file. No sign of it in Task Manager processes either. Fortunately my 1.1.18 is untouched, so I'll probably use that for the foreseeable future. I'd hate to have to switch to FF and TB since I've used the suite since Navigator 4 but this just isn't working for me. Oh, the only parent.lock file I found anywhere was in my old SeaMonkey profile, none in the SM 2 directories at all. I deleted it as suggested, but no effect. nr wrote: On Oct 27, 7:39 pm, David E. Ross nob...@nowhere.invalid wrote: In the meantime, I've reverted back to SM 1.1.18. I won't use IE except for downloading and installing Windows XP updates because I've declined to install various security updates for it. Thus, I don't consider it a full-function, working browser in my configuration. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. I had 1.1.18 installed and running fine. I downloaded 2.0 (just a little while ago), installed it (no problems), then, like David it asked if I wanted to run. I said yes and nothing happened. I also double-clicked the SM icon in the SM folder: nothing. I have only one profile and I did not uninstall 1.1.18. I looked in the SeaMonkey folder and the seamonkey.exe file had a date from September. I would have expected it to have an October date. I have reloaded 1.1.18 but am disappointed with the 2.0 problem. I'm running XP-SP3. Thanks for any help. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2
Patrick Crumhorn wrote: Er, I meant it shows up empty in Password Manager Patrick Crumhorn wrote: My very large password file, while *appearing* to migrate (there is an identical .s file and key3.db file in both the 1.1.8 profile and in the new SM 2.0 profile), shows up empty in Profile Manager. This alone will keep me using 1.1.18 for a good long while, as it would literally take days of spare time to laboriously copy over each URL and password manually. Why does this not work? It seems like it should. Patrick Crumhorn wrote: This is exactly my problem as well. I installed SM 2.0 tonight on my WinXP Professional SP2 system that already has 1.1.18 working fine. After install I was prompted to launch SeaMonkey but nothing happens. It will not launch - at all - from the desktop icon or directly from the .exe file. No sign of it in Task Manager processes either. Fortunately my 1.1.18 is untouched, so I'll probably use that for the foreseeable future. I'd hate to have to switch to FF and TB since I've used the suite since Navigator 4 but this just isn't working for me. Oh, the only parent.lock file I found anywhere was in my old SeaMonkey profile, none in the SM 2 directories at all. I deleted it as suggested, but no effect. nr wrote: On Oct 27, 7:39 pm, David E. Ross nob...@nowhere.invalid wrote: In the meantime, I've reverted back to SM 1.1.18. I won't use IE except for downloading and installing Windows XP updates because I've declined to install various security updates for it. Thus, I don't consider it a full-function, working browser in my configuration. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. I had 1.1.18 installed and running fine. I downloaded 2.0 (just a little while ago), installed it (no problems), then, like David it asked if I wanted to run. I said yes and nothing happened. I also double-clicked the SM icon in the SM folder: nothing. I have only one profile and I did not uninstall 1.1.18. I looked in the SeaMonkey folder and the seamonkey.exe file had a date from September. I would have expected it to have an October date. I have reloaded 1.1.18 but am disappointed with the 2.0 problem. I'm running XP-SP3. Thanks for any help. Even if the files appear the same, have you tried copying them over fomr the old profile to the new, and restarting SeaMonkey anyway? It might work, it can't hurt. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
Lou: I wonder if there is a way of sharing my .deb package with people that might want to try it. You could upload it to your webspace. Configure arguments --enable-application=suite --enable-startup-notification --enable-calendar --enable-application=../suite --disable-official-branding --with-branding=../suite/branding/nightly --disable-debug --enable-optimize --enable-64bit That could help others who which to compile by themselves. P.S. Hach, i love this bug in the composer of SM2.1 *g* Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where To Install SM2..
Leonidas Jones wrote: JD wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: JD wrote: I'm currently running SM 1.1.18 but install all my programs on my D drive. Yes, I'm one of those people. 1.1.18 is installed at: D:\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey When I go to install SM 2, it wants to install in: C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\ Can I install 2 in: D:\SeaMonkey2 and leave my older version alone? It works so good for me and I'm seeing the thread Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2 by David E Ross and nr's reply having the same problem and just like David I don't use IE for anything but MS updates. Houston, do we have a problem? Well, most people are installing with no problem, but it is brand new software,so there are bound to be some glitches. First of all, even if you install SM 2.0 in the default location, it will not overwrite the existing SM 1.1.x. It installs to its own location, and sets up a new profile in a new location. As long as you do not uninstall SM 1.1.x, you cn easily run the two independently of each other. Therefore, you can select a custom install, and place the program wherever you like. If something goes wrong, you can always run SM 1.1.x, and fix the 2.0 install at your convenience. Most likely, nothing will go wrong. Lee Did not work for me. I installed in into D:\SeaMonkey2 and when I launch the .exe file in that folder I get my old SeaMonkey. SeaMonkey 1.1.18 The location and name of the file that gives me that version is: D:\SeaMonkey2\seamonkey.exe Right click Properties says: Version 1.9.1.4, Product Version: 2.0 Modified: 17 October 2009 12:08:30 Houston we have a problem. Windows XP home edition, SP3, latest updates, IE6. I think we probably need to have someon who knows Windows better then I to jump in. Lee So far you're the only one to reply to this thread. I appreciate your help but as far as I'm concerned SM 2 is not good. Version 1 always worked for me without a problem but version 2 is not working. I'm not going to let 2 over-write my older version. Maybe it's time to move FF and TB? I just want something that works. -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Subject: Re: Where To Install SM2..
On Oct 27, 9:44 pm, Leonidas Jones leonidasjo...@netscape.net wrote: James wrote: Then why is this note on the Seamonkey page under Installation? Installation Please note that installing SeaMonkey 2.0 will overwrite your existing installation of SeaMonkey. You won't lose any of your bookmarks, browsing history or mail and news messages, but some of your extensions and other add-ons might not work until updates for them are made available. . . Thanks, James . . First of all, even if you install SM 2.0 in the default location, it will not overwrite the existing SM 1.1.x. It installs to its own location, and sets up a new profile in a new location. As long as you do not uninstall SM 1.1.x, you cn easily run the two independently of each other. Well, all I can say is that installing 2.0 on Win XP SP3 installed to a separate SeaMonkey folder in Program Files, leaving 1.1.14 untouched in the mozilla.org folder. On the other hand, on Mac OS X, I installed it as instructed to Applications, which did overwrite 1.1.18. At least that is what happened to me. Lee Do both SM 1.1.x SM 2.0 appear in Add/Remove programs? I'm also running Win XP SP3 and want to give SM 2.0 a try. But, the prospect of being able to run both SM 1.1.x SM 2.0 for at least a while is desirable. Thanks, ---psuatocobra ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Subject: Re: Where To Install SM2..
I just updated and as far as I can see the entire old Seamonkey is gone [overwritten] just like the Seamonkey site tells you it's going to be. I just wondered where you got the idea that it wouldn't do what they specifically tell you it _will_ do. Perhaps in a Beta??? Anyway, clicking on my old shortcut to Seamonkey 1.x now loads Seamonkey 2.0 and I don't see the old one anywhere. It's probably not a good idea to keep telling people they'll still have the old version to fall back on when the download page tells you that you won't. Maybe if you installed it in some other location??? I'm using Vista Home Basic 64 bit. James . . Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:44:07 -0400 From: Leonidas Jonesleonidasjo...@netscape.net To:support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Where To Install SM2.. Message-ID:muqdnulqesz6phrxnz2dnuvz_gqdn...@mozilla.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed James wrote: Then why is this note on the Seamonkey page under Installation? Installation Please note that installing SeaMonkey 2.0 will overwrite your existing installation of SeaMonkey. You won't lose any of your bookmarks, browsing history or mail and news messages, but some of your extensions and other add-ons might not work until updates for them are made available. . . Thanks, James . . First of all, even if you install SM 2.0 in the default location, it will not overwrite the existing SM 1.1.x. It installs to its own location, and sets up a new profile in a new location. As long as you do not uninstall SM 1.1.x, you cn easily run the two independently of each other. Well, all I can say is that installing 2.0 on Win XP SP3 installed to a separate SeaMonkey folder in Program Files, leaving 1.1.14 untouched in the mozilla.org folder. On the other hand, on Mac OS X, I installed it as instructed to Applications, which did overwrite 1.1.18. At least that is what happened to me. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where To Install SM2..
Leonidas Jones: JD wrote: Did not work for me. I installed in into D:\SeaMonkey2 and when I launch the .exe file in that folder How? I get my old SeaMonkey. SeaMonkey 1.1.18 The location and name of the file that gives me that version is: D:\SeaMonkey2\seamonkey.exe Right click Properties says: Version 1.9.1.4, Product Version: 2.0 Modified: 17 October 2009 12:08:30 I think we probably need to have someon who knows Windows better then I to jump in. And i don't know much either. My last Win was Win98SE which i only used for games. But i would start SM calling D:\SeaMonkey2\seamonkey.exe directly from, uh, there is no xterm in Win, but surely there is a possibility to execute such a command. :) Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where To Install SM2..
Hartmut Figge wrote: Leonidas Jones: JD wrote: Did not work for me. I installed in into D:\SeaMonkey2 and when I launch the .exe file in that folder How? I get my old SeaMonkey. SeaMonkey 1.1.18 The location and name of the file that gives me that version is: D:\SeaMonkey2\seamonkey.exe Right click Properties says: Version 1.9.1.4, Product Version: 2.0 Modified: 17 October 2009 12:08:30 I think we probably need to have someon who knows Windows better then I to jump in. And i don't know much either. My last Win was Win98SE which i only used for games. But i would start SM calling D:\SeaMonkey2\seamonkey.exe directly from, uh, there is no xterm in Win, but surely there is a possibility to execute such a command. :) Hartmut StartRun would be the equivalent, I think. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - 64 bit versions - was release
I'm late to the discussion so may have missed important facts but I installed Seamonkey 2.0 on a Vista Home Basic 64 bit system tonight. It seems to run great, and all of my email, bookmarks and so on seem to be present from the little I've seen so far. But don't count on having the old installation to fall back on because it overwrites it just like the installation instructions tells you it will. It might not too hard to install in at another location and keep the old one, however; but I don't know. I'm not anything like a geek; I typically only know enough to get myself into trouble... James . . From: Bret Busby b...@busby.net To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - 64 bit versions - was release announcement Message-ID: pine.lnx.4.64.0910280951240.17...@bretnewworkstation.busby.net Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, NoOp wrote: Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:37:53 -0700 From: NoOpgl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid To:support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey, mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here! On 10/27/2009 03:27 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite today: SeaMonkey 2.0, now available for free download from the seamonkey-project.org website, melds the ideas behind Netscape Communicator with the modern platform of Firefox 3.5 to create one of the most compelling open source products for advanced Internet users. Well done! Any idea when a 64bit linux version will be available? And, 64 bit versions for MS Windows? My missus, who has just upgraded from Vista to Win 7 (32-bit to 64 bit, also) on her 64 bit laptop, cannot find a 64 bit version of Firefly or Firefox or whatever. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2
Try right clicking on the executable and choose run as administrator [if you have that option]. Luck, James . . Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:12:28 -0500 From: Patrick Crumhornpat...@io.com To:support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2 Message-ID:7k-dnzimlkacnxrxnz2dnuvz_vedn...@mozilla.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed This is exactly my problem as well. I installed SM 2.0 tonight on my WinXP Professional SP2 system that already has 1.1.18 working fine. After install I was prompted to launch SeaMonkey but nothing happens. It will not launch - at all - from the desktop icon or directly from the .exe file. No sign of it in Task Manager processes either. Fortunately my 1.1.18 is untouched, so I'll probably use that for the foreseeable future. I'd hate to have to switch to FF and TB since I've used the suite since Navigator 4 but this just isn't working for me. Oh, the only parent.lock file I found anywhere was in my old SeaMonkey profile, none in the SM 2 directories at all. I deleted it as suggested, but no effect. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.0 - A Mac User's Observations
First and in general - I like it. But... ...have observed the following in about a hour of using SM 2.0 under OS 10.6.1 on a 3.06 GHz MacBook Pro with 4 Gig RAM: 1) SeaMonkey asks for the Master Password at startup even though I have the Preference set to only ask at the first time it is needed - I'm not using SSL, nor do I have SeaMonkey set to display Mail and Newsgroups at launch. 2) Holding down the Option key at launch does not bring up the Profile Manager. 3) Transfer of my previous SM 1.1.18 Profile information was incomplete at launch of SM 2.0 - Bookmarks and Preference settings transferred completely; Mail and Newsgroup server settings, Preferences, Folders, saved mail, etc. transferred completely, but Newsgroup Subscriptions were only displayed for one Server/Account - the last one in the Accounts list. All files appeared in the proper locations in the new 2.0 Profile, but were only displayed for the last listed Server/Account. 4) Right click (cntrl+click) does not consistently bring up the contextual menu for Task Bar options if I right click anywhere within the Task Bar - I seem to have to right click below the address bar within the Task Bar in order to bring up the contextual menu consistently. This occurs when using the (new) default theme, and is less annoying in the Mail and Newsgroup windows - probably because there is more area to click within (no address line). Clicks appear to be ignored within the line where the window title appears, upon comparison. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where To Install SM2..
Leonidas Jones wrote: JD wrote: I'm currently running SM 1.1.18 but install all my programs on my D drive. Yes, I'm one of those people. 1.1.18 is installed at: D:\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey When I go to install SM 2, it wants to install in: C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\ Can I install 2 in: D:\SeaMonkey2 and leave my older version alone? It works so good for me and I'm seeing the thread Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2 by David E Ross and nr's reply having the same problem and just like David I don't use IE for anything but MS updates. Houston, do we have a problem? Well, most people are installing with no problem, but it is brand new software,so there are bound to be some glitches. First of all, even if you install SM 2.0 in the default location, it will not overwrite the existing SM 1.1.x. It installs to its own location, and sets up a new profile in a new location. As long as you do not uninstall SM 1.1.x, you cn easily run the two independently of each other. Therefore, you can select a custom install, and place the program wherever you like. If something goes wrong, you can always run SM 1.1.x, and fix the 2.0 install at your convenience. Most likely, nothing will go wrong. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey To Leonidas Jones: You did not see the movie WestWorld , Obviously! In the World of Computers, things OFTEN GO WRONG, GO WRONG, GO WRONG :-( -- Old Sarge-John Boyle IN GOD WE TRUST! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
Hartmut Figge wrote: Lou: I wonder if there is a way of sharing my .deb package with people that might want to try it. You could upload it to your webspace. Configure arguments --enable-application=suite --enable-startup-notification --enable-calendar --enable-application=../suite --disable-official-branding --with-branding=../suite/branding/nightly --disable-debug --enable-optimize --enable-64bit That could help others who which to compile by themselves. P.S. Hach, i love this bug in the composer of SM2.1 *g* Hartmut Uploaded it here: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=9db35479c75a777d08f8df73f2072ed6e04e75f6e8ebb871 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where To Install SM2..
JD wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: JD wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: JD wrote: I'm currently running SM 1.1.18 but install all my programs on my D drive. Yes, I'm one of those people. 1.1.18 is installed at: D:\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey When I go to install SM 2, it wants to install in: C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\ Can I install 2 in: D:\SeaMonkey2 and leave my older version alone? It works so good for me and I'm seeing the thread Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2 by David E Ross and nr's reply having the same problem and just like David I don't use IE for anything but MS updates. Houston, do we have a problem? Well, most people are installing with no problem, but it is brand new software,so there are bound to be some glitches. First of all, even if you install SM 2.0 in the default location, it will not overwrite the existing SM 1.1.x. It installs to its own location, and sets up a new profile in a new location. As long as you do not uninstall SM 1.1.x, you cn easily run the two independently of each other. Therefore, you can select a custom install, and place the program wherever you like. If something goes wrong, you can always run SM 1.1.x, and fix the 2.0 install at your convenience. Most likely, nothing will go wrong. Lee Did not work for me. I installed in into D:\SeaMonkey2 and when I launch the .exe file in that folder I get my old SeaMonkey. SeaMonkey 1.1.18 The location and name of the file that gives me that version is: D:\SeaMonkey2\seamonkey.exe Right click Properties says: Version 1.9.1.4, Product Version: 2.0 Modified: 17 October 2009 12:08:30 Houston we have a problem. Windows XP home edition, SP3, latest updates, IE6. I think we probably need to have someon who knows Windows better then I to jump in. Lee So far you're the only one to reply to this thread. I appreciate your help but as far as I'm concerned SM 2 is not good. Version 1 always worked for me without a problem but version 2 is not working. I'm not going to let 2 over-write my older version. Maybe it's time to move FF and TB? I just want something that works. The darn thing has only been out a few hours. I would suggest that you are way too quick on the trigger to give up so soon, though I understand that you are frustrated, and I do sympathize. Contrary to what the mozilla help pages say, SM 2.0 is not going to overwrite 1.1.x on Windows XP. I am pretty comfortable in saying that, since I've done it myself, and can open both with ease. Most people are getting it to work without a problem, as I have. I am a Mac guy primarily, so why don't you wait for those more expert in Windows to take a look. Tomorrow is another day, and I bet we can get it to work. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey