From ListMom- was Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can we end this thread now please? > > Keith Addison > Journey to Forever > Handmade Projects > Tokyo > http://journeytoforever.org/ > > Biofuel list owner Schools Schoolchildren are a special part of Journey to Forever -- this is a wonderful opportunity for students to learn about the issues that are so vital to the world they'll inherit. At the same time they'll learn how to use the new information technology in innovative and creative ways, linking and collaborating with other children in other lands, learning together, and contributing to real issues. And a great way to get kids to interact with their parents Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
From ListMom- was Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
>- Original Message - > > > Thanks a whole lot, Steve Spence. I really needed to know that. Got >anything > > for erectile dysfunction; i.e. limp dick? > >Try Zoloft (seratalin) a seratonin uptake inhibitor prescribed for >depression. >Interesting side effects short term. >Paul. Can we end this thread now please? Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel list owner Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
- Original Message - > > Thanks a whole lot, Steve Spence. I really needed to know that. Got anything > for erectile dysfunction; i.e. limp dick? Try Zoloft (seratalin) a seratonin uptake inhibitor prescribed for depression. Interesting side effects short term. Paul. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
Nope, never had the problem, so you'll have to ask someone who does. :-) Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. -- - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money > > Thanks a whole lot, Steve Spence. I really needed to know that. Got anything > for erectile dysfunction; i.e. limp dick? > > -Jim > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > Say you love them > with a DOMAIN NAME! > www. > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
> Thanks a whole lot, Steve Spence. I really needed to know that. Got anything >for erectile dysfunction; i.e. limp dick? > >-Jim If you make biodiesel, the solution is at hand (so to speak)! The glycerine by-product is just the thing for you - just add nitric acid, no need to light the blue touch paper, but stand back three paces anyway, if you still have any legs to pace with. Nitroglycerin's action as an effective vasodilator (it's a heart disease drug) led in 1998 to the release of RESTORE, the "first ever fully tested, effective topical cream for the safe treatment of male erectile dysfunction (impotence)". http://pharmacology.about.com/library/98news/bln0309a.htm "Restore" contains 1% nitroglycerin and is "effective within minutes of application of achieving an erection of up to 45 minutes duration. No significant side effects or instances of priapism were reported." Want to double the effect? Forget it: do NOT take Viagra (sildenafil) if you are taking any form of nitroglycerin, whether for heart pains or for heart pangs. The combination could kill you. http://onhealth.webmd.com/conditions/resource/pharmacy/multum9/item,72469.asp Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
Next thing they will be using them in fertility clinics. Trouble is man being man it wouldnt take long to misuse them and they will probably be used to increase arousal. Have a nice day. B.r., David - Original Message - From: steve spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money > they are good for hemorrhoids as well, makes the shit slide through faster. > > Steve Spence > Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: > http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
Thanks a whole lot, Steve Spence. I really needed to know that. Got anything for erectile dysfunction; i.e. limp dick? -Jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
they are good for hemorrhoids as well, makes the shit slide through faster. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. -- - Original Message - From: "ronald miller sr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money > Back in the original gasoline crunch of the '70's everybody was adding water > injectors better camshafts, headers and all sorts of stuff to increase > milage. One guy wrote in to a magazine that he had installed all of the > devices they had recomended over a years time. He said his milage was so > good that every 60 miles he had to stop and remove a gallon. Makes me wonder > if the magnets would clear up my sinus'. > - Original Message - > From: Jeremy Shuey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money > > > > Ahhh shoot.. Now I have no heat.. ;-( hehehe sorry > > had to say it. ;-) > > > > Jeremy > > --- David Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hey it works, > > > Have just fitted magnets to my > > > radiator hoses and just > > > started the car and already it is running cooler. > > > Must be the alignment of > > > the molecules allows the water to run through the > > > engine and radiator faster > > > achieving better cooling. > > > Warren, you did say increased mileage, not > > > increased fuel consumption and > > > more power, didnt you? > > > B.r., David > > > > > > > I do know that the magnets work on the water. We > > > have > > > > extremely hard water here in my part of PA, with > > > the > > > > limestone and all, and the magnets actually make > > > the > > > > water a whole lot more soft. The idea behind the > > > > magnets is that it actually aligns the molecules > > > in > > > > the fluid, or water in my case. I have had them > > > on > > > > for years, (about 10 now) and the pipes havn't > > > clogged > > > > or had any other problems associated with any idea > > > of > > > > problems with the magnets. H I think i may > > > try to > > > > put some on my Jetta and see what happens with my > > > fuel > > > > mileage. NE Ways.. let ya know what happens. > > > > > > > > Jeremy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > >www. > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
Back in the original gasoline crunch of the '70's everybody was adding water injectors better camshafts, headers and all sorts of stuff to increase milage. One guy wrote in to a magazine that he had installed all of the devices they had recomended over a years time. He said his milage was so good that every 60 miles he had to stop and remove a gallon. Makes me wonder if the magnets would clear up my sinus'. - Original Message - From: Jeremy Shuey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money > Ahhh shoot.. Now I have no heat.. ;-( hehehe sorry > had to say it. ;-) > > Jeremy > --- David Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey it works, > > Have just fitted magnets to my > > radiator hoses and just > > started the car and already it is running cooler. > > Must be the alignment of > > the molecules allows the water to run through the > > engine and radiator faster > > achieving better cooling. > > Warren, you did say increased mileage, not > > increased fuel consumption and > > more power, didnt you? > > B.r., David > > > > > I do know that the magnets work on the water. We > > have > > > extremely hard water here in my part of PA, with > > the > > > limestone and all, and the magnets actually make > > the > > > water a whole lot more soft. The idea behind the > > > magnets is that it actually aligns the molecules > > in > > > the fluid, or water in my case. I have had them > > on > > > for years, (about 10 now) and the pipes havn't > > clogged > > > or had any other problems associated with any idea > > of > > > problems with the magnets. H I think i may > > try to > > > put some on my Jetta and see what happens with my > > fuel > > > mileage. NE Ways.. let ya know what happens. > > > > > > Jeremy > > > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
Ahhh shoot.. Now I have no heat.. ;-( hehehe sorry had to say it. ;-) Jeremy --- David Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey it works, > Have just fitted magnets to my > radiator hoses and just > started the car and already it is running cooler. > Must be the alignment of > the molecules allows the water to run through the > engine and radiator faster > achieving better cooling. > Warren, you did say increased mileage, not > increased fuel consumption and > more power, didnt you? > B.r., David > > > I do know that the magnets work on the water. We > have > > extremely hard water here in my part of PA, with > the > > limestone and all, and the magnets actually make > the > > water a whole lot more soft. The idea behind the > > magnets is that it actually aligns the molecules > in > > the fluid, or water in my case. I have had them > on > > for years, (about 10 now) and the pipes havn't > clogged > > or had any other problems associated with any idea > of > > problems with the magnets. H I think i may > try to > > put some on my Jetta and see what happens with my > fuel > > mileage. NE Ways.. let ya know what happens. > > > > Jeremy > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
Thanks Steve, Had a good laugh. Sometimes when I see something like this I cant believe that people would be so gullible and am really glad I come from a small place like NZ where the majority of people are basically honest and even the evil ones among us preying on the gullibility of the innocents dont get up to too much harm or mischief. I think the advantage of a small community is you dont get sucked in by the hype surrounding certain things and people generated by large numbers.. B.r., David - Original Message - From: steve spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money > DISCLAIMER > > This URL is provided for amusement purposes only. Do not take this as a > recommendation. > > http://www.inter-con.on.ca/triclean.htm Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
Don't take my word for it. His exploits are well known. his specialty is genital mutations, not energy. http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_073.html http://www.nocirc.org/symposia/fourth/demeo.html http://skepdic.com/orgone.html this is also related to the "free energy " "joe cell" and other paranormal quackery. There is so much work to be done in the realms of real science, it's a shame to see people sidelined by the silly stuff. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. -- - Original Message - From: "Warren Rekow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money > Steve said: > >James DeMeo is a quack. have you seen http://www.orgonelab.org/xbjdemeo.htm? > > > >Pretty Sharp Fellow? at lightening peoples wallets most likely. > > Steve, you seem to be beyond the bounds of your paradigm. I have no > wish to offend you or make you uncomfortable. My apologies for > bringing you here. > > As for the application of magnets to fuel lines, I shall give it a > try and report the initial results here when available. I have kept a > record of fuel mileage for my diesel-engine Dodge Ram pickup, so > there exists a specific baseline for comparison. > -- > ...Warren Rekow > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
Steve said: >James DeMeo is a quack. have you seen http://www.orgonelab.org/xbjdemeo.htm? > >Pretty Sharp Fellow? at lightening peoples wallets most likely. Steve, you seem to be beyond the bounds of your paradigm. I have no wish to offend you or make you uncomfortable. My apologies for bringing you here. As for the application of magnets to fuel lines, I shall give it a try and report the initial results here when available. I have kept a record of fuel mileage for my diesel-engine Dodge Ram pickup, so there exists a specific baseline for comparison. -- ...Warren Rekow Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
Jeremy, I personally dont think it will work. I am aware that magnets fitted to a non ferrous water line will work to some degree in preventing calcine and other build up in the line though to what degree I dont know. Even this could be hogwash and there could be other reasons for it. I am personally totally sceptical of them working with gasoline and certainly cant see anything like the gas mileage % improvements claimed even is they did work to some degree. This was the reason for my light hearted rather cynical comments yesterday. B.r., David - Original Message - From: Jeremy Shuey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money > I don't know for sure if it will or not. I just said > I may try it to see what would happen. ;-) > > Jeremy > --- David Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jeremy, > > I can see the magnets might work on > > water for the reasons you > > asscribe but why should they work with gasoline.and > > why should you get > > increased mileage? > > B.r., David > > > > > > I do know that the magnets work on the water. We > > have > > > extremely hard water here in my part of PA, with > > the > > > limestone and all, and the magnets actually make > > the > > > water a whole lot more soft. The idea behind the > > > magnets is that it actually aligns the molecules > > in > > > the fluid, or water in my case. I have had them > > on > > > for years, (about 10 now) and the pipes havn't > > clogged > > > or had any other problems associated with any idea > > of > > > problems with the magnets. H I think i may > > try to > > > put some on my Jetta and see what happens with my > > fuel > > > mileage. NE Ways.. let ya know what happens. > > > > > > Jeremy Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
I don't know for sure if it will or not. I just said I may try it to see what would happen. ;-) Jeremy --- David Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeremy, > I can see the magnets might work on > water for the reasons you > asscribe but why should they work with gasoline.and > why should you get > increased mileage? > B.r., David > > > > I do know that the magnets work on the water. We > have > > extremely hard water here in my part of PA, with > the > > limestone and all, and the magnets actually make > the > > water a whole lot more soft. The idea behind the > > magnets is that it actually aligns the molecules > in > > the fluid, or water in my case. I have had them > on > > for years, (about 10 now) and the pipes havn't > clogged > > or had any other problems associated with any idea > of > > problems with the magnets. H I think i may > try to > > put some on my Jetta and see what happens with my > fuel > > mileage. NE Ways.. let ya know what happens. > > > > Jeremy > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the > list address. > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
James DeMeo is a quack. have you seen http://www.orgonelab.org/xbjdemeo.htm? Pretty Sharp Fellow? at lightening peoples wallets most likely. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. -- - Original Message - From: "Warren Rekow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money > Steve replied: > >Um, uh, guys? what have you all been smoking? magnets on gas lines (and > >water lines) is right up there with ceramic laundry disks. really > > Ha! Hi Steve! ;-) > Well... so have you actually tried it, as described in the article? I > have viewed this in the same way you just expressed. But, James DeMeo > is a pretty sharp fellow. He says it actually works for him. Jeremy > just replied that it has worked for him for several years on his > water lines. I sure don't have all the right answers, and life has > brought many a surprise. Tell you what, let's both try it. Maybe we > learn something new and useful in spite of our 'knowledge'. > -- > ...Warren Rekow > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > www. > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
If I did try it, do you think I would admit to it? Many folks see the results they want to see. With out scientific testing, it's a bit hard to quantify results. What was that about toads and warts and cemeteries under a full moon. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. -- - Original Message - From: "Warren Rekow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money > Steve replied: > >Um, uh, guys? what have you all been smoking? magnets on gas lines (and > >water lines) is right up there with ceramic laundry disks. really > > Ha! Hi Steve! ;-) > Well... so have you actually tried it, as described in the article? I > have viewed this in the same way you just expressed. But, James DeMeo > is a pretty sharp fellow. He says it actually works for him. Jeremy > just replied that it has worked for him for several years on his > water lines. I sure don't have all the right answers, and life has > brought many a surprise. Tell you what, let's both try it. Maybe we > learn something new and useful in spite of our 'knowledge'. > -- > ...Warren Rekow > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > www. > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
DISCLAIMER This URL is provided for amusement purposes only. Do not take this as a recommendation. http://www.inter-con.on.ca/triclean.htm Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. -- - Original Message - From: "David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money > Steve, > What is a ceramic laundry disks and where can I buy one. Anything > that will do my washing for me sounds like a good idea. No seriously have > never heard of these and they may be good for a laugh. Out of curiosity > would like to know a bit more. > B.r., David > > - Original Message - > From: steve spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 8:58 AM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money > > > > Um, uh, guys? what have you all been smoking? magnets on gas lines (and > > water lines) is right up there with ceramic laundry disks. really > > > > Steve Spence > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > >www. > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
My pipes are over 20 years old and the water is hard as a rock. Coffee pots die without regular soaks in vinegar. No magnets, no pipe problems. I can see a polar molecule aligning in a field. Once past the field random as usual. Sells a boatload of magnets though. Maybe I'm so cynical I'm refusing to see something here but I doubt it. I really would like to see a demostrable difference in a bucket of water with and without the magnet. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Shuey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 8:02 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money --- Warren Rekow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've heard stories about putting magnets on gas > lines to improve fuel > mileage for years, but I never tried it. I shall do > so now. The > author of the following article, Dr. James DeMeo, is > an intelligent > and credible fellow, and the cost of trying is > insignificant. Per the > link below this also works for petro-diesel, so > perhaps for biodiesel > and WVO also. Anyone else care to try this and give > us feedback? > Dick, perhaps magnets attached to the tubing might > increase the > effectiveness of foggers? > - > ...Warren Rekow > I do know that the magnets work on the water. We have extremely hard water here in my part of PA, with the limestone and all, and the magnets actually make the water a whole lot more soft. The idea behind the magnets is that it actually aligns the molecules in the fluid, or water in my case. I have had them on for years, (about 10 now) and the pipes havn't clogged or had any other problems associated with any idea of problems with the magnets. H I think i may try to put some on my Jetta and see what happens with my fuel mileage. NE Ways.. let ya know what happens. Jeremy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/2001 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/2001 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
Hey it works, Have just fitted magnets to my radiator hoses and just started the car and already it is running cooler. Must be the alignment of the molecules allows the water to run through the engine and radiator faster achieving better cooling. Warren, you did say increased mileage, not increased fuel consumption and more power, didnt you? B.r., David > I do know that the magnets work on the water. We have > extremely hard water here in my part of PA, with the > limestone and all, and the magnets actually make the > water a whole lot more soft. The idea behind the > magnets is that it actually aligns the molecules in > the fluid, or water in my case. I have had them on > for years, (about 10 now) and the pipes havn't clogged > or had any other problems associated with any idea of > problems with the magnets. H I think i may try to > put some on my Jetta and see what happens with my fuel > mileage. NE Ways.. let ya know what happens. > > Jeremy Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
Warren, I am sure if you had strong enough magnets and you could get close enough to the vehicle in front of you your gas mileage might jump tremendously. Believe they would have to be elecro magnets though in case the vehicle in front suddenly went the wrong way. Some film producer could probably do a good Laurel and Hardy skit (or did I say skid) on this. B.r., David > Ha! Hi Steve! ;-) > Well... so have you actually tried it, as described in the article? I > have viewed this in the same way you just expressed. But, James DeMeo > is a pretty sharp fellow. He says it actually works for him. Jeremy > just replied that it has worked for him for several years on his > water lines. I sure don't have all the right answers, and life has > brought many a surprise. Tell you what, let's both try it. Maybe we > learn something new and useful in spite of our 'knowledge'. > -- > ...Warren Rekow Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
Jeremy, I can see the magnets might work on water for the reasons you asscribe but why should they work with gasoline.and why should you get increased mileage? B.r., David > > I do know that the magnets work on the water. We have > extremely hard water here in my part of PA, with the > limestone and all, and the magnets actually make the > water a whole lot more soft. The idea behind the > magnets is that it actually aligns the molecules in > the fluid, or water in my case. I have had them on > for years, (about 10 now) and the pipes havn't clogged > or had any other problems associated with any idea of > problems with the magnets. H I think i may try to > put some on my Jetta and see what happens with my fuel > mileage. NE Ways.. let ya know what happens. > > Jeremy > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
Steve, What is a ceramic laundry disks and where can I buy one. Anything that will do my washing for me sounds like a good idea. No seriously have never heard of these and they may be good for a laugh. Out of curiosity would like to know a bit more. B.r., David - Original Message - From: steve spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money > Um, uh, guys? what have you all been smoking? magnets on gas lines (and > water lines) is right up there with ceramic laundry disks. really > > Steve Spence Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
Steve replied: >Um, uh, guys? what have you all been smoking? magnets on gas lines (and >water lines) is right up there with ceramic laundry disks. really Ha! Hi Steve! ;-) Well... so have you actually tried it, as described in the article? I have viewed this in the same way you just expressed. But, James DeMeo is a pretty sharp fellow. He says it actually works for him. Jeremy just replied that it has worked for him for several years on his water lines. I sure don't have all the right answers, and life has brought many a surprise. Tell you what, let's both try it. Maybe we learn something new and useful in spite of our 'knowledge'. -- ...Warren Rekow Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
Not sure.. but its pretty good dude... hehehe. Want some?? Well, in all seriousness, believe it or not, it seems to work. Maybe i should get some lab reports of before and after?!? NE Ways, just my 2 cents. Jeremy --- steve spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Um, uh, guys? what have you all been smoking? > magnets on gas lines (and > water lines) is right up there with ceramic laundry > disks. really > > Steve Spence > Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: > http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm > > Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com > Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm > X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax > We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, > we borrow it from our children. > -- > > - Original Message - > From: "Warren Rekow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 4:15 PM > Subject: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money > > > > I've heard stories about putting magnets on gas > lines to improve fuel > > mileage for years, but I never tried it. I shall > do so now. The > > author of the following article, Dr. James DeMeo, > is an intelligent > > and credible fellow, and the cost of trying is > insignificant. Per the > > link below this also works for petro-diesel, so > perhaps for biodiesel > > and WVO also. Anyone else care to try this and > give us feedback? > > Dick, perhaps magnets attached to the tubing might > increase the > > effectiveness of foggers? > > - > > ...Warren Rekow > > > > >>> > > Orgone Biophysical Research Lab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > http://www.orgonelab.org > > Forwarded News Item > > > > Please copy and distribute to other interested > individuals and groups > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
--- Warren Rekow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've heard stories about putting magnets on gas > lines to improve fuel > mileage for years, but I never tried it. I shall do > so now. The > author of the following article, Dr. James DeMeo, is > an intelligent > and credible fellow, and the cost of trying is > insignificant. Per the > link below this also works for petro-diesel, so > perhaps for biodiesel > and WVO also. Anyone else care to try this and give > us feedback? > Dick, perhaps magnets attached to the tubing might > increase the > effectiveness of foggers? > - > ...Warren Rekow > I do know that the magnets work on the water. We have extremely hard water here in my part of PA, with the limestone and all, and the magnets actually make the water a whole lot more soft. The idea behind the magnets is that it actually aligns the molecules in the fluid, or water in my case. I have had them on for years, (about 10 now) and the pipes havn't clogged or had any other problems associated with any idea of problems with the magnets. H I think i may try to put some on my Jetta and see what happens with my fuel mileage. NE Ways.. let ya know what happens. Jeremy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Um, uh, guys? what have you all been smoking? magnets on gas lines (and water lines) is right up there with ceramic laundry disks. really Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. -- - Original Message - From: "Warren Rekow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 4:15 PM Subject: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money > I've heard stories about putting magnets on gas lines to improve fuel > mileage for years, but I never tried it. I shall do so now. The > author of the following article, Dr. James DeMeo, is an intelligent > and credible fellow, and the cost of trying is insignificant. Per the > link below this also works for petro-diesel, so perhaps for biodiesel > and WVO also. Anyone else care to try this and give us feedback? > Dick, perhaps magnets attached to the tubing might increase the > effectiveness of foggers? > - > ...Warren Rekow > > >>> > Orgone Biophysical Research Lab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://www.orgonelab.org > Forwarded News Item > > Please copy and distribute to other interested individuals and groups > > ** > > As of today, I've got at least five or so emails from well-meaning folk > organizing various gasoline station boycotts, car-free days, power-free > days (candles only, please) and other ideas which from my thinking will > have absolutely zero affect upon anything, except perhaps making people who > participate in them feel a little better. I wish to remind OBRL-news > subscribers of a very simple way to save from 5-15% on their automobile > gasoline bill, by simply putting strong magnets on the gas line, close to > where it enters the carbeurator or fuel-injector. > > Natural Energy Works formerly sold fancy magnetic fuel treatment devices > which cost around $50, and you had to cut your fuel line to have them > function. Later, I discovered these devices contained simple magnets with > the south-seeking poles directed inward. So you don't have to buy such > expensive devices, nor cut into your fuel line. You can put a few dollars > of strong magnets on the outside of the existing fuel line, and tape them > into place, with similar beneficial results. > > My Astrovan, a V-6, 4-wheel drive behemoth that is necessary for winter > snow at the Greensprings Center, routinely gave around 17 mpg. With the > magnets on, the boost was to around 20 mpg, or 3 additional mpg for an > increase of around 15%. The magnitude of efficiency boosting seems to vary > a bit from car to car, and from region to region. > > The magnets used are fairly strong rare-earth strontium ferroxide ceramic > magnets which will pinch your fingers (Ouch!) if you are not careful, and > four of them are enough for a single fuel-line for one car. Any similar > strong magnet will work. Two of them are stacked together on one side > of the fuel line, with another two stacked magnets on the opposite side of > the line, secured in place with multiple wrappings of black electrical tape. > Simple! Double fuel-lines for dual injectors need eight magnets. They > sell for around $1 each. Thats a total of eight bucks maximum, plus a few > cents for the tape, or an additional $2 for a hose clamp, if you wish to > have something more secure than the tape. That's a total cost of around > $10 for saving from 5-15% on your gasoline bill, which today can pay > for itself in about two or three tank-fulls. > > Like the orgone accumulator, it is too simple for most people to believe, > so most people don't, but they will plunk down $150 for some other gadget > that has a lot of slick brochures and MLM hysteria standing behind them. > Open up those $150 devices (for fuel or water treatment) and in many cases > you still have the same $4 worth of magnets. > > You can get the magnets at any Radio Shack, but they have to be stronger > than simple refrigerator magnets, strong enough to pinch your skin if you > are not careful. Otherwise the field won't penetrate into the fuel line. > Get them whereever you want, but Natural Energy Works has been selling > these simple strong magnets for years, available in sets of 10 for $10 plus > $7 USA-Canada shipping, along with a little book on the subject for $12.95. > The same effect works also on your propane or natural gas stove or furnace, > when magnets are added to the feed lines just before the burners or > combustion chambers. > > C
[biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money
I've heard stories about putting magnets on gas lines to improve fuel mileage for years, but I never tried it. I shall do so now. The author of the following article, Dr. James DeMeo, is an intelligent and credible fellow, and the cost of trying is insignificant. Per the link below this also works for petro-diesel, so perhaps for biodiesel and WVO also. Anyone else care to try this and give us feedback? Dick, perhaps magnets attached to the tubing might increase the effectiveness of foggers? - ...Warren Rekow >>> Orgone Biophysical Research Lab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.orgonelab.org Forwarded News Item Please copy and distribute to other interested individuals and groups ** As of today, I've got at least five or so emails from well-meaning folk organizing various gasoline station boycotts, car-free days, power-free days (candles only, please) and other ideas which from my thinking will have absolutely zero affect upon anything, except perhaps making people who participate in them feel a little better. I wish to remind OBRL-news subscribers of a very simple way to save from 5-15% on their automobile gasoline bill, by simply putting strong magnets on the gas line, close to where it enters the carbeurator or fuel-injector. Natural Energy Works formerly sold fancy magnetic fuel treatment devices which cost around $50, and you had to cut your fuel line to have them function. Later, I discovered these devices contained simple magnets with the south-seeking poles directed inward. So you don't have to buy such expensive devices, nor cut into your fuel line. You can put a few dollars of strong magnets on the outside of the existing fuel line, and tape them into place, with similar beneficial results. My Astrovan, a V-6, 4-wheel drive behemoth that is necessary for winter snow at the Greensprings Center, routinely gave around 17 mpg. With the magnets on, the boost was to around 20 mpg, or 3 additional mpg for an increase of around 15%. The magnitude of efficiency boosting seems to vary a bit from car to car, and from region to region. The magnets used are fairly strong rare-earth strontium ferroxide ceramic magnets which will pinch your fingers (Ouch!) if you are not careful, and four of them are enough for a single fuel-line for one car. Any similar strong magnet will work. Two of them are stacked together on one side of the fuel line, with another two stacked magnets on the opposite side of the line, secured in place with multiple wrappings of black electrical tape. Simple! Double fuel-lines for dual injectors need eight magnets. They sell for around $1 each. Thats a total of eight bucks maximum, plus a few cents for the tape, or an additional $2 for a hose clamp, if you wish to have something more secure than the tape. That's a total cost of around $10 for saving from 5-15% on your gasoline bill, which today can pay for itself in about two or three tank-fulls. Like the orgone accumulator, it is too simple for most people to believe, so most people don't, but they will plunk down $150 for some other gadget that has a lot of slick brochures and MLM hysteria standing behind them. Open up those $150 devices (for fuel or water treatment) and in many cases you still have the same $4 worth of magnets. You can get the magnets at any Radio Shack, but they have to be stronger than simple refrigerator magnets, strong enough to pinch your skin if you are not careful. Otherwise the field won't penetrate into the fuel line. Get them whereever you want, but Natural Energy Works has been selling these simple strong magnets for years, available in sets of 10 for $10 plus $7 USA-Canada shipping, along with a little book on the subject for $12.95. The same effect works also on your propane or natural gas stove or furnace, when magnets are added to the feed lines just before the burners or combustion chambers. Check out the following web site for more information, and also the link recently added that provides the results of scientific studies backing up the magnetic effect. http://www.orgonelab.org/xpmagnet.htm Let's face it, Americans are the biggest energy hogs of the world, and our political leadership have been fiddling while Rome burned, totally failing us for years, on both sides of the political spectrum. Here's something you can do, today, which will directly benefit yourself, and allow you to walk a bit softer on Mother Earth. Boycot Exxon, walk to work and read by candle-light, if you wish, but a lot more can be done with clever considerations, and quite inexpensively. <<< Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
