Re: [Talk-us] Redaction affected ways map

[Richard Welty]

On 8/4/12 1:26 PM, Mike N wrote:

On 8/4/2012 2:27 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote:

I would like to know if this is useful to anybody, or what I can do to
make it more so.


Very nice - it makes it easy to find, check, and fix all the roads 
that were touched.
yes, it helped find a number of redaction related problems in the 
capital district
of new york that i hadn't been aware of, a couple of which of which were 
pretty serious.

all fixed now. starting to look outside of the immediate area...

thanks,
   richard


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Re: [Talk-us] Redaction affected ways map

[Mike N]

On 8/4/2012 2:27 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote:

I would like to know if this is useful to anybody, or what I can do to
make it more so.


Very nice - it makes it easy to find, check, and fix all the roads that 
were touched.


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Re: [Talk-us] Redaction affected ways map

[Martijn van Exel]

Hi,

On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 9:50 AM, the Old Topo Depot wrote:

> Hi Martijn,
>
> I believe you are not showing ways deleted by redaction; any way to add
> indicators for this situation to your display ?
>
> See
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.45269&lon=-122.29221&zoom=15&layers=M,
> for example.
>

Deleted nodes are by their nature not in the current planet anymore, so
that would require logic to look at the changesets of when the bot ran and
keeping a table of bot-deleted way IDs. Maybe such a list is already out
there. Certainly Toby's map as well as the OSMI layer already do this.

>
> The additional road class information, as well as the specificity of the
> map, is quite important to help folks focus; could the OSMI view be
> enhanced to include highway=motorway/primary/secondary/tertiary/all else
> filters ?
>
> Also, every time I click a link on http://lima.schaaltreinen.nl/redactionI'm 
> getting a new JOSM layer, which is suboptimal, IMHO.  Perhaps this
> could behave as OSMI JOSM links do ?
>
> I fixed that. It is a parameter in the remote control URI definition.

Currently I am rerunning the import from scratch so the layer may not show
anything for a little bit.
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Re: [Talk-us] Redaction affected ways map

[the Old Topo Depot]

I suppose that this line (64)

http://127.0.0.1:8111/load_object?new_layer=true&objects=w"; + osmid
is forcing the new layer ?

On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 8:50 AM, the Old Topo Depot wrote:

> Hi Martijn,
>
> I believe you are not showing ways deleted by redaction; any way to add
> indicators for this situation to your display ?
>
> See
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.45269&lon=-122.29221&zoom=15&layers=M,
> for example.
>
> The additional road class information, as well as the specificity of the
> map, is quite important to help folks focus; could the OSMI view be
> enhanced to include highway=motorway/primary/secondary/tertiary/all else
> filters ?
>
> Also, every time I click a link on http://lima.schaaltreinen.nl/redactionI'm 
> getting a new JOSM layer, which is suboptimal, IMHO.  Perhaps this
> could behave as OSMI JOSM links do ?
>
> Best
>
> On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04.08.2012 12:05, Stellan Lagerström wrote:
>>>
 Nice. What do the colors signify?
 And I would suggest adding "Show in OSM" and/or "Edit in Potlatch/JOSM"
 links.

>>>
>>> There's also my version of this:
>>>
>>> http://tools.geofabrik.de/**osmi/?view=redactionbot&lon=-**
>>> 118.13960&lat=33.96068&zoom=10
>>>
>>> In contrast to Martijn's map, this one isn't at all pretty ;) and my map
>>> doesn't differentiate roads from other stuff (or motorways from primary
>>> roads etc.) - the OSMI view simply shows a red mark wherever something was
>>> deleted by the bot; an orange mark wherever something was last edited by
>>> the bot; and a yellow mark where something was edited by the bot but
>>> someone else touched it later. It can show the (former) tags of deleted
>>> objects if you click on them (but don't you copy that into OSM...) and it
>>> has a "trash can" button that allows you to make a red thing go away (for
>>> cases where you say: well, that has been remapped already, or: this is
>>> really such a marginal feature that we don't need a mapper to go there and
>>> survey it again). Red things trashed this way become green. Update
>>> frequency is a couple times a day.
>>>
>>>
>> The OSMI visualization is much more comprehensive and I would recommend
>> it to anyone interested in doing systematic remapping. What I will do is
>> add a link to the Inspektor for the same extent.
>> What my map adds to the Inspektor view is a focus on the main road
>> system. Also, it is very easy to add a new query to the visualization. It
>> is currently updated every hour.
>>
>> Martijn
>>
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Re: [Talk-us] Redaction affected ways map

[the Old Topo Depot]

Hi Martijn,

I believe you are not showing ways deleted by redaction; any way to add
indicators for this situation to your display ?

See
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.45269&lon=-122.29221&zoom=15&layers=M,
for example.

The additional road class information, as well as the specificity of the
map, is quite important to help folks focus; could the OSMI view be
enhanced to include highway=motorway/primary/secondary/tertiary/all else
filters ?

Also, every time I click a link on
http://lima.schaaltreinen.nl/redactionI'm getting a new JOSM layer,
which is suboptimal, IMHO.  Perhaps this
could behave as OSMI JOSM links do ?

Best

On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Frederik Ramm  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> On 04.08.2012 12:05, Stellan Lagerström wrote:
>>
>>> Nice. What do the colors signify?
>>> And I would suggest adding "Show in OSM" and/or "Edit in Potlatch/JOSM"
>>> links.
>>>
>>
>> There's also my version of this:
>>
>> http://tools.geofabrik.de/**osmi/?view=redactionbot&lon=-**
>> 118.13960&lat=33.96068&zoom=10
>>
>> In contrast to Martijn's map, this one isn't at all pretty ;) and my map
>> doesn't differentiate roads from other stuff (or motorways from primary
>> roads etc.) - the OSMI view simply shows a red mark wherever something was
>> deleted by the bot; an orange mark wherever something was last edited by
>> the bot; and a yellow mark where something was edited by the bot but
>> someone else touched it later. It can show the (former) tags of deleted
>> objects if you click on them (but don't you copy that into OSM...) and it
>> has a "trash can" button that allows you to make a red thing go away (for
>> cases where you say: well, that has been remapped already, or: this is
>> really such a marginal feature that we don't need a mapper to go there and
>> survey it again). Red things trashed this way become green. Update
>> frequency is a couple times a day.
>>
>>
> The OSMI visualization is much more comprehensive and I would recommend it
> to anyone interested in doing systematic remapping. What I will do is add a
> link to the Inspektor for the same extent.
> What my map adds to the Inspektor view is a focus on the main road system.
> Also, it is very easy to add a new query to the visualization. It is
> currently updated every hour.
>
> Martijn
>
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Re: [Talk-us] Redaction affected ways map

[Martijn van Exel]

Hi,

On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Frederik Ramm  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> On 04.08.2012 12:05, Stellan Lagerström wrote:
>
>> Nice. What do the colors signify?
>> And I would suggest adding "Show in OSM" and/or "Edit in Potlatch/JOSM"
>> links.
>>
>
> There's also my version of this:
>
> http://tools.geofabrik.de/**osmi/?view=redactionbot&lon=-**
> 118.13960&lat=33.96068&zoom=10
>
> In contrast to Martijn's map, this one isn't at all pretty ;) and my map
> doesn't differentiate roads from other stuff (or motorways from primary
> roads etc.) - the OSMI view simply shows a red mark wherever something was
> deleted by the bot; an orange mark wherever something was last edited by
> the bot; and a yellow mark where something was edited by the bot but
> someone else touched it later. It can show the (former) tags of deleted
> objects if you click on them (but don't you copy that into OSM...) and it
> has a "trash can" button that allows you to make a red thing go away (for
> cases where you say: well, that has been remapped already, or: this is
> really such a marginal feature that we don't need a mapper to go there and
> survey it again). Red things trashed this way become green. Update
> frequency is a couple times a day.
>
>
The OSMI visualization is much more comprehensive and I would recommend it
to anyone interested in doing systematic remapping. What I will do is add a
link to the Inspektor for the same extent.
What my map adds to the Inspektor view is a focus on the main road system.
Also, it is very easy to add a new query to the visualization. It is
currently updated every hour.

Martijn

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Re: [Talk-us] Redaction affected ways map

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

On 04.08.2012 12:05, Stellan Lagerström wrote:

Nice. What do the colors signify?
And I would suggest adding "Show in OSM" and/or "Edit in Potlatch/JOSM"
links.


There's also my version of this:

http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=redactionbot&lon=-118.13960&lat=33.96068&zoom=10

In contrast to Martijn's map, this one isn't at all pretty ;) and my map 
doesn't differentiate roads from other stuff (or motorways from primary 
roads etc.) - the OSMI view simply shows a red mark wherever something 
was deleted by the bot; an orange mark wherever something was last 
edited by the bot; and a yellow mark where something was edited by the 
bot but someone else touched it later. It can show the (former) tags of 
deleted objects if you click on them (but don't you copy that into 
OSM...) and it has a "trash can" button that allows you to make a red 
thing go away (for cases where you say: well, that has been remapped 
already, or: this is really such a marginal feature that we don't need a 
mapper to go there and survey it again). Red things trashed this way 
become green. Update frequency is a couple times a day.


Bye
Frederik

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Re: [Talk-us] Redaction affected ways map

[Martijn van Exel]

Hi,

On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 4:05 AM, Stellan Lagerström  wrote:
> On 2012-08-04 08:27, Martijn van Exel wrote:
>>
>> I was curious how much of the road network in the US has been touched
>> by the redaction process. So I made this map:
>>
>> http://lima.schaaltreinen.nl/redaction/
>>
>> I would like to know if this is useful to anybody, or what I can do to
>> make it more so.
>>
> Nice. What do the colors signify?
> And I would suggest adding "Show in OSM" and/or "Edit in Potlatch/JOSM"
> links.

The colors mimic and signify Motorway / Trunk / Primary / Secondary / Other.

You can click on the features to get a popup with those links. It's a
GeoJSON-fed vector layer.

Let me give some background on how the data is prepared (and kept up
to date if I get it to work reliably):

1 A local us.o5m[1] file is updated using osmupdate[2]
2 From that, a file with just those objects last edited by the
redaction bot is filtered using osmfilter[3].
3 This file is compared with the previous run, an osc is derived using
osmconvert[4].
4 The osc is applied to a PostGIS database that was initially
populated with the result of the first run of step 2.

The script can be found at https://gist.github.com/3257796 if you're interested.

[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/O5m
[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmupdate
[3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmfilter
[4] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmconvert
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Re: [Talk-us] Redaction affected ways map

[Stellan Lagerström]

On 2012-08-04 08:27, Martijn van Exel wrote:

I was curious how much of the road network in the US has been touched
by the redaction process. So I made this map:

http://lima.schaaltreinen.nl/redaction/

I would like to know if this is useful to anybody, or what I can do to
make it more so.


Nice. What do the colors signify?
And I would suggest adding "Show in OSM" and/or "Edit in Potlatch/JOSM" 
links.


/Stellan


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[Talk-us] Redaction affected ways map

[Martijn van Exel]

Hi all,

I was curious how much of the road network in the US has been touched
by the redaction process. So I made this map:

http://lima.schaaltreinen.nl/redaction/

I would like to know if this is useful to anybody, or what I can do to
make it more so.

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