[Ubnt_users] Part 101 Spectrum Grab (was 4096 QAM)

[Mimbres Communications]

Waking up a bit late here as well, and we're *seriously* rural  (second
least populated county in the sixth least populated state in the nation).
The power company and the mine both have all manner of dual-pol 40 MHz
links on 6 GHz and 11 GHz running hither and yon.  400+ mbits full duplex
to a substation?  Sure, why not?

AF-11FX at 56 MHz just meets the 101.147 efficiency requirements for an 80
MHz channel at 256 QAM.  Engineer your links at 1024 QAM and you can
probably secure the channel.  Upgrade that to 4096 QAM on the full 80 MHz
in a few years and you're golden.

The rules are probably due for a re-work at some point.  The traffic
loading requirements are ripe for a legal challenge and I suspect
somebody's likely to pull that lever in the next few years.



On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
wrote:

> "Conserve Spectrum" 
> "Waste of Resources"
> "Spectrum Efficiency".
>
> Where are you folks living ? Dream Land ? ..
>
> When are going to wake up and realize that the battle is purely about
> spectrum grab.
>
> My advice to you all newbies get the biggest chunk of 11ghz spectrum
> channels you can get and put up the radios that you can afford that will
> chew up the whole channel you can always get a better radio in the
> future (or when you can afford it).. but very surely you may not be so
> lucky in finding extra spectrum when you need it in the future
>
> Doing anything less, is very likely to endanger your future business well
> being.
>
> Can me whatever you like
> But take it from someone who is waking up to this rather late i.e.
> virtually impossible to find 6ghz paths, virtually impossible to find 11ghz
> paths, and 18ghz are going fast too... BTW, we are in Rain Zone N which
> means only 11ghz & 6ghz are practical for any reasonable distance...
>
> (BTW in our area, no 3.65, no CBRS, sprint is sitting on 2.5ahhh
> !...but we can use 24Ghz & 60Ghz & EBand ! )
>
>
> . you think your industry peers are going to play nice with conserving
> spectrum ' !!! Think again...
> e.g.   http://about.att.com/story/att_to_acquire_straight_path.html
> Follow the bigger story starting with the FCC & Straight Path ...
>
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

[Faisal Imtiaz]

"Conserve Spectrum" 
"Waste of Resources"
"Spectrum Efficiency".

Where are you folks living ? Dream Land ? ..

When are going to wake up and realize that the battle is purely about spectrum 
grab.

My advice to you all newbies get the biggest chunk of 11ghz spectrum 
channels you can get and put up the radios that you can afford that will chew 
up the whole channel you can always get a better radio in the future (or 
when you can afford it).. but very surely you may not be so lucky in finding 
extra spectrum when you need it in the future

Doing anything less, is very likely to endanger your future business well 
being.

Can me whatever you like
But take it from someone who is waking up to this rather late i.e. 
virtually impossible to find 6ghz paths, virtually impossible to find 11ghz 
paths, and 18ghz are going fast too... BTW, we are in Rain Zone N which 
means only 11ghz & 6ghz are practical for any reasonable distance...

(BTW in our area, no 3.65, no CBRS, sprint is sitting on 2.5ahhh !...but we 
can use 24Ghz & 60Ghz & EBand ! )


. you think your industry peers are going to play nice with conserving 
spectrum ' !!! Think again...
e.g.   http://about.att.com/story/att_to_acquire_straight_path.html
    Follow the bigger story starting with the FCC & Straight Path ...

--...

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Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

[Seth Mattinen]

On 4/13/17 12:48, J Portman wrote:
> ETSI allows 112MHZ channels. FCC limits to 80. BUT, if your equipment
> supports it, you can license two adjacent bands of 80 for 160MHZ channels.


Danger... do not think of it as a 160MHz channel. The FCC requires 
individual carriers per channel, so you CAN NOT license two 80MHz 
channels and run a single carrier inside it.

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

[Mike Hammett]

Marina was VERY nervous about giving this interview and it showed. I've 
promised her a re-do in Vegas. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayrEmIFKAOs 




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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "J Portman"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:48:58 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber) 

ETSI allows 112MHZ channels. FCC limits to 80. BUT, if your equipment supports 
it, you can license two adjacent bands of 80 for 160MHZ channels. 
However, you can achieve the 160MHZ 'virtual' channel width by using dual core 
radio and xpic at 80MHZ which conserves spectrum. 

5GHZ already has 160MHZ channel width available (much to my dismay!) on ISM 
bands. 

Call this guy for SIAE info: 

David Molinaro 
SIAE MICROELETTRONICA 
Sales Director 
Cell (512) 690-6544 
david.molin...@siaemic.com 
www.siaemic.com 

If he is not your guy, he will point you to the right guy. 

JP 


On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 13:42:03 -0600, Mimbres Communications wrote 
> Sweet. Having a heck of a time with their website trying to get technical 
> data but I've emailed them for more info. 
> 
> BTW, the RFIC that Ubiquiti is building for airFiber LTU is supposed to be 
> capable of 4096 QAM on a 100 MHz channel. I'm thinking next-generation AF-11 
> that can truly pack the pipe. 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:56 AM, J Portman < ba...@baron.com > wrote: 
> 


> 
> For real data throughput and spectral efficiency, you can't beat something 
> like SIAE AlfoPlus2 (4096) qam at 80MHZ) and can run XPIC so only using ONE 
> frequency pair to push well over a gig with sub-millisecond latency. Sure, 
> costs more, but YGWYPF. 
> 



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Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

[J Portman]

ETSI allows 112MHZ channels. FCC limits to 80. BUT, if your equipment supports 
it, you can license two adjacent bands of 80 for 160MHZ channels.
However, you can achieve the 160MHZ 'virtual' channel width by using dual core 
radio and xpic at 80MHZ which conserves spectrum.

5GHZ already has 160MHZ channel width available (much to my dismay!) on ISM 
bands.

Call this guy for SIAE info:

David Molinaro
SIAE MICROELETTRONICA
Sales Director
Cell (512) 690-6544
david.molin...@siaemic.com
www.siaemic.com

If he is not your guy, he will point you to the right guy.

JP

On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 13:42:03 -0600, Mimbres Communications wrote
> Sweet.  Having a heck of a time with their website trying to get technical 
> data but I've emailed them for more info.
> 
> BTW, the RFIC that Ubiquiti is building for airFiber LTU is supposed to be 
> capable of 4096 QAM on a 100 MHz channel.  I'm thinking next-generation AF-11 
> that can truly pack the pipe.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:56 AM, J Portman  wrote:
> 
> 
> For real data throughput and spectral efficiency, you can't beat something 
> like SIAE AlfoPlus2 (4096) qam at 80MHZ) and can run XPIC so only using ONE 
> frequency pair to push well over a gig with sub-millisecond latency. Sure, 
> costs more, but YGWYPF.
> 
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| Mimbres Communications, LLC | 
575-342-0042
> -- 
> This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by 
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[Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

[Mimbres Communications]

Sweet.  Having a heck of a time with their website trying to get technical
data but I've emailed them for more info.

BTW, the RFIC that Ubiquiti is building for airFiber LTU is supposed to be
capable of 4096 QAM on a 100 MHz channel.  I'm thinking next-generation
AF-11 that can truly pack the pipe.


On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:56 AM, J Portman  wrote:

>
> For real data throughput and spectral efficiency, you can't beat something
> like SIAE AlfoPlus2 (4096) qam at 80MHZ) and can run XPIC so only using ONE
> frequency pair to push well over a gig with sub-millisecond latency. Sure,
> costs more, but YGWYPF.
>


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Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[J Portman]

Which is the argument many vendors use for licensing keys. IE, grow  as needed.
You might consider coordinating for 80MHZ/xpic/4096 QAM but only license the 
radio for your immediate needs, which does lower the initial cost (sometimes by 
a great deal). As you grow, drop in more keys, etc.

I don't bother anymore (although I probably should). Time is money and my time 
particularly is very expensive.

Make no mistake, I LIKE the idea of prices coming down. When I got my first SAF 
link I paid about 23K for a 2+0, 56MHZ channels and 256 QAM with 3ft antennae 
(including coordination). I was a novice buyer and got treated like one. I am 
quite a bit wiser now.

SIAE came along and cut that price (with more performance (1024 QAM)) by a 
LARGE margin.

There are other "hungry" vendors out there as well now. Can't even keep all 
their names straight. :)

I just wish Mimosa had kept a little more in line with industry standards. We 
all have to share the ecosystem.

JP

On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 09:33:46 -0800, Jeremy Austin wrote
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:27 AM, J Portman  wrote:
> 
> I realize my argument may not be convincing to everyone, that's what makes 
> America great! (:)
> Still, the waste of a very, very precious resource seems almost unforgivable.
> 
> I can understand this perspective. I can hardly abide putting in anything 
> with less than AirFiber bit/Hz efficiency these [UTF-8?]days…
> 
> *But* sometimes you need to occupy spectrum so you can grow into it. Networks 
> have to be initially built larger than current need, as we don't have the 
> ability to organically grow with no constraints, using spectrum at 100% 
> efficiency all of the time. That would be awesome if so!
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Jeremy Austin
> 
> (907) 895-2311 office
> (907) 803-5422 cell
> jhaus...@gmail.com
> 
> Heritage NetWorks
> Whitestone Power & Communications
> Vertical Broadband, LLC
> 
> Schedule a meeting: http://doodle.com/jermudgeon

Joe Portman 
Alamo Broadband Inc. 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Mike Hammett]

I'd imagine a lot of times it's the choice between a $200 Rocket\ePMP and a 
$500 - $1k AF11\B11 (plus other costs). Extending that to $15k+ can be a bit 
much of an ask. 




- 
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Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "J Portman"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 12:27:51 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber 

Varies somewhat on features and antennas. 

Last alfoplus2 quote I got for 2ft antennas, dual cores opened full modulation 
was about 19K. 

Yah, a LOT higher, but, in my view, when you get to the point where you NEED 
that much backhaul, you are probably COINING money (as we are). 

So, I don't necessarily go with the lowest initial cost anymore. I look at some 
other things as well, TCO, reliability, service (SIEA has been phenomenal 
there) etc. 

14k extra amortized make only a few dollars a month difference on the bottom 
line and I sleep a whole lot better with carrier grade equipment in place. 

I realize my argument may not be convincing to everyone, that's what makes 
America great! (:) 
Still, the waste of a very, very precious resource seems almost unforgivable. 

JP 

On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 09:59:41 -0700, mike.lyon wrote 
> Whats the rough cost for one of those SiAE links? 
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 09:56, J Portman < ba...@baron.com > wrote: 
> 
> 


> Yah, B11 is 50% (or less) as efficient as is possible. 
> 
> For real data throughput and spectral efficiency, you can't beat something 
> like SIAE AlfoPlus2 (4096) qam at 80MHZ) and can run XPIC so only using ONE 
> frequency pair to push well over a gig with sub-millisecond latency. Sure, 
> costs more, but YGWYPF. 
> 
> YMWDV, 
> JP 
> 
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 11:25:14 -0500, Adair Winter wrote 
> > And trashes the 11g spectrum. Put a real radio up 
> > 
> > On Apr 13, 2017 11:21 AM, "Tommy Adams" < tomm...@digitex.net > wrote: 



> > 
> > No experience with the AF11, but the B11 will give you every bit of 1 gig. 
> > We put one up 4 months ago, no rain fade and it really moved the data. 
> > 
> >  
> > Tommy A. 
> > Digitex.com 
> > 
> > 817.558.6230 V 
> > 817.558.1204 F 
> > 
> > On Apr 13, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Tim-GM < t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com > 
> > wrote: 
> > 
> > 


> > 
> > Will have techs test at tower 
> > Thanks for feedback 
> > 
> > We plan on moving or adding 11ghz for this link 24ghz would be backup. 
> > Just not sure if we do ubnt, mimosa, or cambium for the 11ghz 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] 
> > On Behalf Of Mathew Howard 
> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:36 AM 
> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber 
> > 
> > 
> > If you're running bandwidth tests from a MikroTik, I doubt that anything 
> > less than a CCR is going to be able to handle a 700Mbps TCP test. In my 
> > experience, if an AF24 is showing full capacity (770Mbps), it will do 
> > 700Mbps consistently. 
> > 
> > We have an inactive AF24 link (it was replaced with 11ghz because of rain 
> > fade issues, but we left the AF24 there for a spare), with a CCR1009 at one 
> > end and an RB1100AHx2 at the other end - running a receive test from the 
> > CCR, I consistently get 680-700Mbps, but the other direction it's very 
> > inconsistent but probably averages about 100Mbps (keep in mind these 
> > routers do have around 300Mbps of traffic going through the other link 
> > while this is running). 
> > 
> > 

> > 
> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on 
> > behalf of Shawn C. Peppers [ videodirectwispal...@gmail.com ] 
> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:04 AM 
> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber 
> > 
> > Im not sure i get 700 mbps test across a few of mine either when running 
> > tcp. I do however hit 600+ at peak times. Like Adair stated, its likely 
> > either the routers just are not accurately handling the bandwidth test, you 
> > have errors on the ethernet link or some other variable. 
> > 
> > Shawn C. Peppers 
> > 
> > Video Direct 
> > 
> > 866-680-8433 Toll Free 
> > 
> > http://www.video-direct.tv 
> > 
> > 
> > On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Tommy Adams < tomm...@digitex.net > wrote: 


> > 
> > Your numbers are almost identical to one of our links. Pulling a TCP 
> > bandwidth test from a CCR1009 plugged in on each side we get 700 megs. We 
> > use the CCR1009 to bond two backhauls together for failover when it rains. 
> > Anyone telling you these things do not fail in the rain is crazy or lives 
> > in the dessert. 
> > 
> > If you have a Mikrotik router behind it, you can do a bandwidth test to 
> > btest.planetcoop.com user/pass: btest. This is s public testing server 
> > setup by a nice ISP in northern US. 
> > 
> > Tommy 

Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Jeremy Austin]

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:27 AM, J Portman  wrote:

>
> I realize my argument may not be convincing to everyone, that's what makes
> America great! (:)
> Still, the waste of a very, very precious resource seems almost
> unforgivable.
>

I can understand this perspective. I can hardly abide putting in anything
with less than AirFiber bit/Hz efficiency these days…

*But* sometimes you need to occupy spectrum so you can grow into it.
Networks have to be initially built larger than current need, as we don't
have the ability to organically grow with no constraints, using spectrum at
100% efficiency all of the time. That would be awesome if so!


-- 
Jeremy Austin

(907) 895-2311 office
(907) 803-5422 cell
jhaus...@gmail.com

Heritage NetWorks
Whitestone Power & Communications
Vertical Broadband, LLC

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Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[J Portman]

Varies somewhat on features and antennas.

Last alfoplus2 quote I got for 2ft antennas, dual cores opened full modulation 
was about 19K.

Yah, a LOT higher, but, in my view, when you get to the point where you NEED 
that much backhaul, you are probably COINING money (as we are).

So, I don't necessarily go with the lowest initial cost anymore. I look at some 
other things as well, TCO, reliability, service (SIEA has been phenomenal 
there) etc.

14k extra amortized make only a few dollars a month difference on the bottom 
line and I sleep a whole lot better with carrier grade equipment in place.

I realize my argument may not be convincing to everyone, that's what makes 
America great! (:)
Still, the waste of a very, very precious resource seems almost unforgivable.

JP

On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 09:59:41 -0700, mike.lyon wrote
> Whats the rough cost for one of those SiAE links?
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 09:56, J Portman  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yah, B11 is 50% (or less) as efficient as is possible. 
> 
> For real data throughput and spectral efficiency, you can't beat something 
> like SIAE AlfoPlus2 (4096) qam at 80MHZ) and can run XPIC so only using ONE 
> frequency pair to push well over a gig with sub-millisecond latency. Sure, 
> costs more, but YGWYPF.
> 
> YMWDV,
> JP
> 
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 11:25:14 -0500, Adair Winter wrote
> > And trashes the 11g spectrum. Put a real radio up
> > 
> > On Apr 13, 2017 11:21 AM, "Tommy Adams"  wrote:
> > 
> > No experience with the AF11, but the B11 will give you every bit of 1 gig. 
> > We put one up 4 months ago, no rain fade and it really moved the data. 
> > 
> > 
> > Tommy A.
> > Digitex.com
> > 
> > 817.558.6230 V
> > 817.558.1204 F
> > 
> > On Apr 13, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Tim-GM  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Will have techs test at tower
> > Thanks for feedback
> >  
> > We plan on moving or adding 11ghz for this link 24ghz would be backup.
> > Just not sure if we do ubnt, mimosa, or cambium for the 11ghz
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> > Behalf Of Mathew Howard
> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:36 AM
> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
> >  
> > 
> > If you're running bandwidth tests from a MikroTik, I doubt that anything 
> > less than a CCR is going to be able to handle a 700Mbps TCP test. In my 
> > experience, if an AF24 is showing full capacity (770Mbps), it will do 
> > 700Mbps consistently.
> > 
> > We have an inactive AF24 link (it was replaced with 11ghz because of rain 
> > fade issues, but we left the AF24 there for a spare), with a CCR1009 at one 
> > end and an RB1100AHx2 at the other end - running a receive test from the 
> > CCR, I consistently get 680-700Mbps, but the other direction it's very 
> > inconsistent but probably averages about 100Mbps (keep in mind these 
> > routers do have around 300Mbps of traffic going through the other link 
> > while this is running).
> > 
> > 
---

> > 
> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
> > of Shawn C. Peppers [videodirectwispal...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:04 AM
> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
> > 
> > Im not sure i get 700 mbps test across a few of mine either when running 
> > tcp.  I do however hit 600+ at peak times.  Like Adair stated, its likely 
> > either the routers just are not accurately handling the bandwidth test, you 
> > have errors on the ethernet link or some other variable.
> > 
> > Shawn C. Peppers 
> > 
> > Video Direct
> > 
> > 866-680-8433 Toll Free
> > 
> > http://www.video-direct.tv
> > 
> > 
> > On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Tommy Adams  wrote:
> > 
> > Your numbers are almost identical to one of our links.  Pulling a TCP 
> > bandwidth test from a CCR1009 plugged in on each side we get 700 megs.  We 
> > use the CCR1009 to bond two backhauls together for failover when it rains.  
> > Anyone telling you these things do not fail in the rain is crazy or lives 
> > in the dessert.  
> >  
> > If you have a Mikrotik router behind it, you can do a bandwidth test to 
> > btest.planetcoop.com user/pass: btest. This is s public testing server 
> > setup by a nice ISP in northern US.
> >  
> > Tommy
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > --
> > Tommy Adams
> > Network Administrator
> > Digitex.com
> >  
> > 817.558.6230 V
> > 817.558.1204 F
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > From:  on behalf of Tim-GM 
> > 
> > Reply-To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> > Date: Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 9:43 AM
> > To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group' 
> > Subject: Re: 

Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[mike . lyon]

Whats the rough cost for one of those SiAE links?

> On Apr 13, 2017, at 09:56, J Portman  wrote:
> 
> Yah, B11 is 50% (or less) as efficient as is possible. 
> 
> For real data throughput and spectral efficiency, you can't beat something 
> like SIAE AlfoPlus2 (4096) qam at 80MHZ) and can run XPIC so only using ONE 
> frequency pair to push well over a gig with sub-millisecond latency. Sure, 
> costs more, but YGWYPF. 
> 
> YMWDV, 
> JP 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 11:25:14 -0500, Adair Winter wrote 
> > And trashes the 11g spectrum. Put a real radio up 
> > 
> > On Apr 13, 2017 11:21 AM, "Tommy Adams"  wrote: 
>> 
>> > 
>> > No experience with the AF11, but the B11 will give you every bit of 1 gig. 
>> > We put one up 4 months ago, no rain fade and it really moved the data.  
>> > 
>> >  
>> > Tommy A. 
>> > Digitex.com 
>> > 
>> > 817.558.6230 V 
>> > 817.558.1204 F 
>> > 
>> > On Apr 13, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Tim-GM  
>> > wrote: 
>> > 
>> >
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> > Will have techs test at tower 
>>> > Thanks for feedback 
>>> >   
>>> > We plan on moving or adding 11ghz for this link 24ghz would be backup. 
>>> > Just not sure if we do ubnt, mimosa, or cambium for the 11ghz 
>>> >   
>>> >   
>>> > 
>>> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] 
>>> > On Behalf Of Mathew Howard 
>>> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:36 AM 
>>> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group  
>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber 
>>> >   
>>> > 
>>> > If you're running bandwidth tests from a MikroTik, I doubt that anything 
>>> > less than a CCR is going to be able to handle a 700Mbps TCP test. In my 
>>> > experience, if an AF24 is showing full capacity (770Mbps), it will do 
>>> > 700Mbps consistently. 
>>> > 
>>> > We have an inactive AF24 link (it was replaced with 11ghz because of rain 
>>> > fade issues, but we left the AF24 there for a spare), with a CCR1009 at 
>>> > one end and an RB1100AHx2 at the other end - running a receive test from 
>>> > the CCR, I consistently get 680-700Mbps, but the other direction it's 
>>> > very inconsistent but probably averages about 100Mbps (keep in mind these 
>>> > routers do have around 300Mbps of traffic going through the other link 
>>> > while this is running). 
>>> > 
>>> >
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on 
>>> > behalf of Shawn C. Peppers [videodirectwispal...@gmail.com] 
>>> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:04 AM 
>>> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber 
>>> > 
>>> > Im not sure i get 700 mbps test across a few of mine either when running 
>>> > tcp.  I do however hit 600+ at peak times.  Like Adair stated, its likely 
>>> > either the routers just are not accurately handling the bandwidth test, 
>>> > you have errors on the ethernet link or some other variable. 
>>> > 
>>> > Shawn C. Peppers 
>>> > 
>>> > Video Direct 
>>> > 
>>> > 866-680-8433 Toll Free 
>>> > 
>>> > http://www.video-direct.tv 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Tommy Adams  wrote:
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> > Your numbers are almost identical to one of our links.  Pulling a TCP 
>>> > bandwidth test from a CCR1009 plugged in on each side we get 700 megs.  
>>> > We use the CCR1009 to bond two backhauls together for failover when it 
>>> > rains.  Anyone telling you these things do not fail in the rain is crazy 
>>> > or lives in the dessert.  
>>> >   
>>> > If you have a Mikrotik router behind it, you can do a bandwidth test to 
>>> > btest.planetcoop.com user/pass: btest. This is s public testing server 
>>> > setup by a nice ISP in northern US. 
>>> >   
>>> > Tommy 
>>> >   
>>> > 
>>> >   
>>> > -- 
>>> > Tommy Adams 
>>> > Network Administrator 
>>> > Digitex.com 
>>> >   
>>> > 817.558.6230 V 
>>> > 817.558.1204 F 
>>> >   
>>> >   
>>> > 
>>> > From:  on behalf of Tim-GM 
>>> >  
>>> > Reply-To: Ubiquiti Users Group  
>>> > Date: Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 9:43 AM 
>>> > To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group'  
>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber 
>>> > 
>>> >   
>>> > UDP around 653meg 
>>> >   
>>> > But that has NO value. 
>>> >   
>>> >   
>>> > 
>>> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] 
>>> > On Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers 
>>> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:36 AM 
>>> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group  
>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber 
>>> >   
>>> > 
>>> > Must be something else messing with it.  How are you bandwidth testing?  
>>> > Try a UDP test.  
>>> > 
>>> > Shawn C. Peppers 
>>> > 
>>> > Video Direct 
>>> > 
>>> > 866-680-8433 Toll Free 
>>> > 
>>> > 

Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[J Portman]

Yah, B11 is 50% (or less) as efficient as is possible.

For real data throughput and spectral efficiency, you can't beat something like 
SIAE AlfoPlus2 (4096) qam at 80MHZ) and can run XPIC so only using ONE 
frequency pair to push well over a gig with sub-millisecond latency. Sure, 
costs more, but YGWYPF.

YMWDV,
JP

On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 11:25:14 -0500, Adair Winter wrote
> And trashes the 11g spectrum. Put a real radio up
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017 11:21 AM, "Tommy Adams"  wrote:
> 
> No experience with the AF11, but the B11 will give you every bit of 1 gig. We 
> put one up 4 months ago, no rain fade and it really moved the data. 
> 
> 
> Tommy A.
> Digitex.com
> 
> 817.558.6230 V
> 817.558.1204 F
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Tim-GM  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Will have techs test at tower
> Thanks for feedback
>  
> We plan on moving or adding 11ghz for this link 24ghz would be backup.
> Just not sure if we do ubnt, mimosa, or cambium for the 11ghz
>  
>  
> 
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Mathew Howard
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:36 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> 
> If you're running bandwidth tests from a MikroTik, I doubt that anything less 
> than a CCR is going to be able to handle a 700Mbps TCP test. In my 
> experience, if an AF24 is showing full capacity (770Mbps), it will do 700Mbps 
> consistently.
> 
> We have an inactive AF24 link (it was replaced with 11ghz because of rain 
> fade issues, but we left the AF24 there for a spare), with a CCR1009 at one 
> end and an RB1100AHx2 at the other end - running a receive test from the CCR, 
> I consistently get 680-700Mbps, but the other direction it's very 
> inconsistent but probably averages about 100Mbps (keep in mind these routers 
> do have around 300Mbps of traffic going through the other link while this is 
> running).
> 
> 
---

> 
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
> of Shawn C. Peppers [videodirectwispal...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:04 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
> 
> Im not sure i get 700 mbps test across a few of mine either when running tcp. 
>  I do however hit 600+ at peak times.  Like Adair stated, its likely either 
> the routers just are not accurately handling the bandwidth test, you have 
> errors on the ethernet link or some other variable.
> 
> Shawn C. Peppers 
> 
> Video Direct
> 
> 866-680-8433 Toll Free
> 
> http://www.video-direct.tv
> 
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Tommy Adams  wrote:
> 
> Your numbers are almost identical to one of our links.  Pulling a TCP 
> bandwidth test from a CCR1009 plugged in on each side we get 700 megs.  We 
> use the CCR1009 to bond two backhauls together for failover when it rains.  
> Anyone telling you these things do not fail in the rain is crazy or lives in 
> the dessert.  
>  
> If you have a Mikrotik router behind it, you can do a bandwidth test to 
> btest.planetcoop.com user/pass: btest. This is s public testing server setup 
> by a nice ISP in northern US.
>  
> Tommy
>  
> 
>  
> --
> Tommy Adams
> Network Administrator
> Digitex.com
>  
> 817.558.6230 V
> 817.558.1204 F
>  
>  
> 
> From:  on behalf of Tim-GM 
> 
> Reply-To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Date: Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 9:43 AM
> To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group' 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
> 
>  
> UDP around 653meg
>  
> But that has NO value.
>  
>  
> 
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:36 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> 
> Must be something else messing with it.  How are you bandwidth testing?  Try 
> a UDP test. 
> 
> Shawn C. Peppers
> 
> Video Direct
> 
> 866-680-8433 Toll Free
> 
> http://www.video-direct.tv
> 
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Tim-GM  wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> 
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:16 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> 
> What does the capacity show? 
> 
> Shawn C. Peppers
> 
> Video Direct
> 
> 866-680-8433 Toll Free
> 
> http://www.video-direct.tv
> 
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Tim-GM  wrote:
> 
> Just noticed airlink at 33db says 500
> At 38 db says 728
>  
> 

Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Adair Winter]

And trashes the 11g spectrum. Put a real radio up

On Apr 13, 2017 11:21 AM, "Tommy Adams"  wrote:

> No experience with the AF11, but the B11 will give you every bit of 1 gig.
> We put one up 4 months ago, no rain fade and it really moved the data.
>
>
> 
> Tommy A.
> Digitex.com
>
> 817.558.6230 <(817)%20558-6230> V
> 817.558.1204 <(817)%20558-1204> F
>
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Tim-GM 
> wrote:
>
> Will have techs test at tower
>
> Thanks for feedback
>
>
>
> We plan on moving or adding 11ghz for this link 24ghz would be backup.
>
> Just not sure if we do ubnt, mimosa, or cambium for the 11ghz
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:36 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>
>
>
> If you're running bandwidth tests from a MikroTik, I doubt that anything
> less than a CCR is going to be able to handle a 700Mbps TCP test. In my
> experience, if an AF24 is showing full capacity (770Mbps), it will do
> 700Mbps consistently.
>
> We have an inactive AF24 link (it was replaced with 11ghz because of rain
> fade issues, but we left the AF24 there for a spare), with a CCR1009 at one
> end and an RB1100AHx2 at the other end - running a receive test from the
> CCR, I consistently get 680-700Mbps, but the other direction it's very
> inconsistent but probably averages about 100Mbps (keep in mind these
> routers do have around 300Mbps of traffic going through the other link
> while this is running).
> --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Shawn C. Peppers [videodirectwispal...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:04 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>
> Im not sure i get 700 mbps test across a few of mine either when running
> tcp.  I do however hit 600+ at peak times.  Like Adair stated, its likely
> either the routers just are not accurately handling the bandwidth test, you
> have errors on the ethernet link or some other variable.
>
> Shawn C. Peppers
>
> Video Direct
>
> 866-680-8433 <(866)%20680-8433> Toll Free
>
> http://www.video-direct.tv
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Tommy Adams  wrote:
>
> Your numbers are almost identical to one of our links.  Pulling a TCP
> bandwidth test from a CCR1009 plugged in on each side we get 700 megs.  We
> use the CCR1009 to bond two backhauls together for failover when it rains.
> Anyone telling you these things do not fail in the rain is crazy or lives
> in the dessert.
>
>
>
> If you have a Mikrotik router behind it, you can do a bandwidth test to
> btest.planetcoop.com user/pass: btest. This is s public testing server
> setup by a nice ISP in northern US.
>
>
>
> Tommy
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Tommy Adams
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Digitex.com
>
>
>
> 817.558.6230 <(817)%20558-6230> V
>
> 817.558.1204 <(817)%20558-1204> F
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: * on behalf of Tim-GM <
> t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com>
> *Reply-To: *Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Date: *Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 9:43 AM
> *To: *'Ubiquiti Users Group' 
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>
>
>
> UDP around 653meg
>
>
>
> But that has NO value.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Shawn C. Peppers
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:36 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>
>
>
> Must be something else messing with it.  How are you bandwidth testing?
> Try a UDP test.
>
> Shawn C. Peppers
>
> Video Direct
>
> 866-680-8433 <(866)%20680-8433> Toll Free
>
> http://www.video-direct.tv
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Tim-GM 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Shawn C. Peppers
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:16 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>
>
>
> What does the capacity show?
>
> Shawn C. Peppers
>
> Video Direct
>
> 866-680-8433 <(866)%20680-8433> Toll Free
>
> http://www.video-direct.tv
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Tim-GM 
> wrote:
>
> Just noticed airlink at 33db says 500
>
> At 38 db says 728
>
>
>
> The airfiber maximum power is 33db
>
>
>
> Can this power be increased on the airfiber?
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> 

Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Tommy Adams]

No experience with the AF11, but the B11 will give you every bit of 1 gig. We 
put one up 4 months ago, no rain fade and it really moved the data. 



Tommy A.
Digitex.com

817.558.6230 V
817.558.1204 F

> On Apr 13, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Tim-GM  wrote:
> 
> Will have techs test at tower
> Thanks for feedback
>  
> We plan on moving or adding 11ghz for this link 24ghz would be backup.
> Just not sure if we do ubnt, mimosa, or cambium for the 11ghz
>  
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Mathew Howard
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:36 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> If you're running bandwidth tests from a MikroTik, I doubt that anything less 
> than a CCR is going to be able to handle a 700Mbps TCP test. In my 
> experience, if an AF24 is showing full capacity (770Mbps), it will do 700Mbps 
> consistently.
> 
> We have an inactive AF24 link (it was replaced with 11ghz because of rain 
> fade issues, but we left the AF24 there for a spare), with a CCR1009 at one 
> end and an RB1100AHx2 at the other end - running a receive test from the CCR, 
> I consistently get 680-700Mbps, but the other direction it's very 
> inconsistent but probably averages about 100Mbps (keep in mind these routers 
> do have around 300Mbps of traffic going through the other link while this is 
> running).
> 
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
> of Shawn C. Peppers [videodirectwispal...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:04 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
> 
> Im not sure i get 700 mbps test across a few of mine either when running tcp. 
>  I do however hit 600+ at peak times.  Like Adair stated, its likely either 
> the routers just are not accurately handling the bandwidth test, you have 
> errors on the ethernet link or some other variable.
> 
> Shawn C. Peppers
> Video Direct
> 866-680-8433 Toll Free
> http://www.video-direct.tv
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Tommy Adams  wrote:
> 
> Your numbers are almost identical to one of our links.  Pulling a TCP 
> bandwidth test from a CCR1009 plugged in on each side we get 700 megs.  We 
> use the CCR1009 to bond two backhauls together for failover when it rains.  
> Anyone telling you these things do not fail in the rain is crazy or lives in 
> the dessert. 
>  
> If you have a Mikrotik router behind it, you can do a bandwidth test to 
> btest.planetcoop.com user/pass: btest. This is s public testing server setup 
> by a nice ISP in northern US.
>  
> Tommy
>  
>  
> --
> Tommy Adams
> Network Administrator
> Digitex.com
>  
> 817.558.6230 V
> 817.558.1204 F
>  
>  
> From:  on behalf of Tim-GM 
> 
> Reply-To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Date: Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 9:43 AM
> To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group' 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> UDP around 653meg
>  
> But that has NO value.
>  
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:36 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> Must be something else messing with it.  How are you bandwidth testing?  Try 
> a UDP test. 
> 
> Shawn C. Peppers
> Video Direct
> 866-680-8433 Toll Free
> http://www.video-direct.tv
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Tim-GM  wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:16 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> What does the capacity show? 
> 
> Shawn C. Peppers
> Video Direct
> 866-680-8433 Toll Free
> http://www.video-direct.tv
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Tim-GM  wrote:
> 
> Just noticed airlink at 33db says 500
> At 38 db says 728
>  
> The airfiber maximum power is 33db
>  
> Can this power be increased on the airfiber?
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Adair Winter
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:48 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> If the capacity graph says 760Mb, that's what he's got. and the only channel 
> option is 100Mhz.
>  
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Adam Greene  wrote:
> How much spectrum (channel width) did you allocate to the link?
>  
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> 

Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Tim-GM]

Will have techs test at tower

Thanks for feedback

 

We plan on moving or adding 11ghz for this link 24ghz would be backup.

Just not sure if we do ubnt, mimosa, or cambium for the 11ghz

 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:36 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

 

If you're running bandwidth tests from a MikroTik, I doubt that anything
less than a CCR is going to be able to handle a 700Mbps TCP test. In my
experience, if an AF24 is showing full capacity (770Mbps), it will do
700Mbps consistently.

We have an inactive AF24 link (it was replaced with 11ghz because of rain
fade issues, but we left the AF24 there for a spare), with a CCR1009 at one
end and an RB1100AHx2 at the other end - running a receive test from the
CCR, I consistently get 680-700Mbps, but the other direction it's very
inconsistent but probably averages about 100Mbps (keep in mind these routers
do have around 300Mbps of traffic going through the other link while this is
running).

  _  

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Shawn C. Peppers
[videodirectwispal...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:04 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

Im not sure i get 700 mbps test across a few of mine either when running
tcp.  I do however hit 600+ at peak times.  Like Adair stated, its likely
either the routers just are not accurately handling the bandwidth test, you
have errors on the ethernet link or some other variable.

Shawn C. Peppers 

Video Direct

866-680-8433 Toll Free

http://www.video-direct.tv


On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Tommy Adams  > wrote:

Your numbers are almost identical to one of our links.  Pulling a TCP
bandwidth test from a CCR1009 plugged in on each side we get 700 megs.  We
use the CCR1009 to bond two backhauls together for failover when it rains.
Anyone telling you these things do not fail in the rain is crazy or lives in
the dessert.  

 

If you have a Mikrotik router behind it, you can do a bandwidth test to
btest.planetcoop.com   user/pass: btest. This
is s public testing server setup by a nice ISP in northern US.

 

Tommy

 

 

--

Tommy Adams

Network Administrator

Digitex.com  

 

817.558.6230 V

817.558.1204 F

 

 

From:  >
on behalf of Tim-GM  >
Reply-To: Ubiquiti Users Group  >
Date: Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 9:43 AM
To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group'  >
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

 

UDP around 653meg

 

But that has NO value.

 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:36 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

 

Must be something else messing with it.  How are you bandwidth testing?  Try
a UDP test. 

Shawn C. Peppers

Video Direct

866-680-8433 Toll Free

http://www.video-direct.tv


On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Tim-GM  > wrote:



 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:16 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

 

What does the capacity show? 

Shawn C. Peppers

Video Direct

866-680-8433 Toll Free

http://www.video-direct.tv


On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Tim-GM  > wrote:

Just noticed airlink at 33db says 500

At 38 db says 728

 

The airfiber maximum power is 33db

 

Can this power be increased on the airfiber?

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adair Winter
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:48 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

 

If the capacity graph says 760Mb, that's what he's got. and the only channel
option is 100Mhz.

 

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Adam Greene  > wrote:

How much spectrum (channel width) did you allocate to the link?

 

 

From: 

Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Tim-GM]

Agreed





From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:38 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber



With the CCR generating tests.  With 1100ah generating you're probably way 
behind.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Mathew Howard  > wrote:

If you're running bandwidth tests from a MikroTik, I doubt that anything less 
than a CCR is going to be able to handle a 700Mbps TCP test. In my experience, 
if an AF24 is showing full capacity (770Mbps), it will do 700Mbps consistently.

We have an inactive AF24 link (it was replaced with 11ghz because of rain fade 
issues, but we left the AF24 there for a spare), with a CCR1009 at one end and 
an RB1100AHx2 at the other end - running a receive test from the CCR, I 
consistently get 680-700Mbps, but the other direction it's very inconsistent 
but probably averages about 100Mbps (keep in mind these routers do have around 
300Mbps of traffic going through the other link while this is running).


  _


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org   
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org  ] on behalf 
of Shawn C. Peppers [videodirectwispal...@gmail.com 
 ]
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:04 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group


Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber



Im not sure i get 700 mbps test across a few of mine either when running tcp.  
I do however hit 600+ at peak times.  Like Adair stated, its likely either the 
routers just are not accurately handling the bandwidth test, you have errors on 
the ethernet link or some other variable.

Shawn C. Peppers

Video Direct

866-680-8433   Toll Free

http://www.video-direct.tv


On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Tommy Adams  > wrote:

Your numbers are almost identical to one of our links.  Pulling a TCP bandwidth 
test from a CCR1009 plugged in on each side we get 700 megs.  We use the 
CCR1009 to bond two backhauls together for failover when it rains.  Anyone 
telling you these things do not fail in the rain is crazy or lives in the 
dessert.



If you have a Mikrotik router behind it, you can do a bandwidth test to 
btest.planetcoop.com   user/pass: btest. This is s 
public testing server setup by a nice ISP in northern US.



Tommy





--

Tommy Adams

Network Administrator

Digitex.com 



817.558.6230   V

817.558.1204   F





From:  > on 
behalf of Tim-GM  >
Reply-To: Ubiquiti Users Group  >
Date: Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 9:43 AM
To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group'  >
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber



UDP around 653meg



But that has NO value.





From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org   
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:36 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group  >
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber



Must be something else messing with it.  How are you bandwidth testing?  Try a 
UDP test.

Shawn C. Peppers

Video Direct

866-680-8433   Toll Free

http://www.video-direct.tv


On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Tim-GM  > wrote:





From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org   
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:16 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group  >
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber



What does the capacity show?

Shawn C. Peppers

Video Direct

866-680-8433   Toll Free

http://www.video-direct.tv


On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Tim-GM  > wrote:

Just noticed airlink at 33db says 500

At 38 db says 728



The airfiber maximum power is 33db



Can this power be increased on the airfiber?



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org   
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adair Winter
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:48 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group  >
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 

Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Josh Luthman]

With the CCR generating tests.  With 1100ah generating you're probably way
behind.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> If you're running bandwidth tests from a MikroTik, I doubt that anything
> less than a CCR is going to be able to handle a 700Mbps TCP test. In my
> experience, if an AF24 is showing full capacity (770Mbps), it will do
> 700Mbps consistently.
>
> We have an inactive AF24 link (it was replaced with 11ghz because of rain
> fade issues, but we left the AF24 there for a spare), with a CCR1009 at one
> end and an RB1100AHx2 at the other end - running a receive test from the
> CCR, I consistently get 680-700Mbps, but the other direction it's very
> inconsistent but probably averages about 100Mbps (keep in mind these
> routers do have around 300Mbps of traffic going through the other link
> while this is running).
>
> --
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Shawn C. Peppers [videodirectwispal...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:04 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>
> Im not sure i get 700 mbps test across a few of mine either when running
> tcp.  I do however hit 600+ at peak times.  Like Adair stated, its likely
> either the routers just are not accurately handling the bandwidth test, you
> have errors on the ethernet link or some other variable.
>
> Shawn C. Peppers
> Video Direct
> 866-680-8433 <(866)%20680-8433> Toll Free
> http://www.video-direct.tv
>
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Tommy Adams  wrote:
>
> Your numbers are almost identical to one of our links.  Pulling a TCP
> bandwidth test from a CCR1009 plugged in on each side we get 700 megs.  We
> use the CCR1009 to bond two backhauls together for failover when it rains.
> Anyone telling you these things do not fail in the rain is crazy or lives
> in the dessert.
>
>
>
> If you have a Mikrotik router behind it, you can do a bandwidth test to
> btest.planetcoop.com user/pass: btest. This is s public testing server
> setup by a nice ISP in northern US.
>
>
>
> Tommy
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Tommy Adams
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Digitex.com
>
>
>
> 817.558.6230 <(817)%20558-6230> V
>
> 817.558.1204 <(817)%20558-1204> F
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: * on behalf of Tim-GM <
> t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com>
> *Reply-To: *Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Date: *Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 9:43 AM
> *To: *'Ubiquiti Users Group' 
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>
>
>
> UDP around 653meg
>
>
>
> But that has NO value.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Shawn C. Peppers
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:36 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>
>
>
> Must be something else messing with it.  How are you bandwidth testing?
> Try a UDP test.
>
> Shawn C. Peppers
>
> Video Direct
>
> 866-680-8433 <(866)%20680-8433> Toll Free
>
> http://www.video-direct.tv
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Tim-GM 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Shawn C. Peppers
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:16 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>
>
>
> What does the capacity show?
>
> Shawn C. Peppers
>
> Video Direct
>
> 866-680-8433 <(866)%20680-8433> Toll Free
>
> http://www.video-direct.tv
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Tim-GM 
> wrote:
>
> Just noticed airlink at 33db says 500
>
> At 38 db says 728
>
>
>
> The airfiber maximum power is 33db
>
>
>
> Can this power be increased on the airfiber?
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Adair Winter
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:48 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>
>
>
> If the capacity graph says 760Mb, that's what he's got. and the only
> channel option is 100Mhz.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Adam Greene 
> wrote:
>
> How much spectrum (channel width) did you allocate to the link?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:26 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>
>
>
> Same here, with the AF24 line, always 

Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Mathew Howard]

If you're running bandwidth tests from a MikroTik, I doubt that anything less 
than a CCR is going to be able to handle a 700Mbps TCP test. In my experience, 
if an AF24 is showing full capacity (770Mbps), it will do 700Mbps consistently.

We have an inactive AF24 link (it was replaced with 11ghz because of rain fade 
issues, but we left the AF24 there for a spare), with a CCR1009 at one end and 
an RB1100AHx2 at the other end - running a receive test from the CCR, I 
consistently get 680-700Mbps, but the other direction it's very inconsistent 
but probably averages about 100Mbps (keep in mind these routers do have around 
300Mbps of traffic going through the other link while this is running).


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Shawn C. Peppers [videodirectwispal...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:04 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

Im not sure i get 700 mbps test across a few of mine either when running tcp.  
I do however hit 600+ at peak times.  Like Adair stated, its likely either the 
routers just are not accurately handling the bandwidth test, you have errors on 
the ethernet link or some other variable.

Shawn C. Peppers
Video Direct
866-680-8433 Toll Free
http://www.video-direct.tv

On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Tommy Adams 
> wrote:

Your numbers are almost identical to one of our links.  Pulling a TCP bandwidth 
test from a CCR1009 plugged in on each side we get 700 megs.  We use the 
CCR1009 to bond two backhauls together for failover when it rains.  Anyone 
telling you these things do not fail in the rain is crazy or lives in the 
dessert.

If you have a Mikrotik router behind it, you can do a bandwidth test to 
btest.planetcoop.com user/pass: btest. This is s 
public testing server setup by a nice ISP in northern US.

Tommy


--
Tommy Adams
Network Administrator
Digitex.com

817.558.6230 V
817.558.1204 F


From: > on 
behalf of Tim-GM 
>
Reply-To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
>
Date: Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 9:43 AM
To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group' >
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

UDP around 653meg

But that has NO value.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:36 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group >
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

Must be something else messing with it.  How are you bandwidth testing?  Try a 
UDP test.

Shawn C. Peppers
Video Direct
866-680-8433 Toll Free
http://www.video-direct.tv

On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Tim-GM 
> 
wrote:


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:16 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group >
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

What does the capacity show?

Shawn C. Peppers
Video Direct
866-680-8433 Toll Free
http://www.video-direct.tv

On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Tim-GM 
> 
wrote:
Just noticed airlink at 33db says 500
At 38 db says 728

The airfiber maximum power is 33db

Can this power be increased on the airfiber?

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adair Winter
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:48 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group >
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

If the capacity graph says 760Mb, that's what he's got. and the only channel 
option is 100Mhz.

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Adam Greene 
> wrote:
How much spectrum (channel width) did you allocate to the link?


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:26 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group >
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

Same here, with the AF24 line, always see full throughput.  Is it possible the 
routers on the ends can't handle the throughput?  Especially if they are 
generating the traffic for the Bandwidth test.
On 4/13/2017 

Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Shawn C. Peppers]

Im not sure i get 700 mbps test across a few of mine either when running tcp.  
I do however hit 600+ at peak times.  Like Adair stated, its likely either the 
routers just are not accurately handling the bandwidth test, you have errors on 
the ethernet link or some other variable.

Shawn C. Peppers
Video Direct
866-680-8433 Toll Free
http://www.video-direct.tv

> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Tommy Adams  wrote:
> 
> Your numbers are almost identical to one of our links.  Pulling a TCP 
> bandwidth test from a CCR1009 plugged in on each side we get 700 megs.  We 
> use the CCR1009 to bond two backhauls together for failover when it rains.  
> Anyone telling you these things do not fail in the rain is crazy or lives in 
> the dessert. 
>  
> If you have a Mikrotik router behind it, you can do a bandwidth test to 
> btest.planetcoop.com user/pass: btest. This is s public testing server setup 
> by a nice ISP in northern US.
>  
> Tommy
>  
>  
> --
> Tommy Adams
> Network Administrator
> Digitex.com
>  
> 817.558.6230 V
> 817.558.1204 F
>  
>  
> From:  on behalf of Tim-GM 
> 
> Reply-To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Date: Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 9:43 AM
> To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group' 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> UDP around 653meg
>  
> But that has NO value.
>  
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:36 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> Must be something else messing with it.  How are you bandwidth testing?  Try 
> a UDP test. 
> 
> Shawn C. Peppers
> Video Direct
> 866-680-8433 Toll Free
> http://www.video-direct.tv
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Tim-GM  wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:16 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> What does the capacity show? 
> 
> Shawn C. Peppers
> Video Direct
> 866-680-8433 Toll Free
> http://www.video-direct.tv
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Tim-GM  wrote:
> 
> Just noticed airlink at 33db says 500
> At 38 db says 728
>  
> The airfiber maximum power is 33db
>  
> Can this power be increased on the airfiber?
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Adair Winter
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:48 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> If the capacity graph says 760Mb, that's what he's got. and the only channel 
> option is 100Mhz.
>  
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Adam Greene  wrote:
> How much spectrum (channel width) did you allocate to the link?
>  
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Nate Burke
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:26 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> Same here, with the AF24 line, always see full throughput.  Is it possible 
> the routers on the ends can't handle the throughput?  Especially if they are 
> generating the traffic for the Bandwidth test.
> 
> On 4/13/2017 7:22 AM, Adair Winter wrote:
> we move 700+Mb easily over our air fibers. how are you testing?
>  
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Tim-GM  
> wrote:
> Installed our first AirFiber link 3.62 miles
>  
> DB numbers 65-66 match the airlink model
> We have them set at full duplex
> All indications are a 764-759 meg link
>  
> Yet our TCP-IP throughput is 300-330meg
>  
> Any thoughts on why?
>  
> The signal have solid colors for each chain on both sides
>  
> What are your experiences
>  
>  
> 
> Virus-free. www.avast.com
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>  
> 

Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Tommy Adams]

Your numbers are almost identical to one of our links.  Pulling a TCP bandwidth 
test from a CCR1009 plugged in on each side we get 700 megs.  We use the 
CCR1009 to bond two backhauls together for failover when it rains.  Anyone 
telling you these things do not fail in the rain is crazy or lives in the 
dessert.  

 

If you have a Mikrotik router behind it, you can do a bandwidth test to 
btest.planetcoop.com user/pass: btest. This is s public testing server setup by 
a nice ISP in northern US.

 

Tommy

 

 

--

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Network Administrator

Digitex.com

 

817.558.6230 V

817.558.1204 F

 

 

From:  on behalf of Tim-GM 

Reply-To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Date: Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 9:43 AM
To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

 

UDP around 653meg

 

But that has NO value.

 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:36 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

 

Must be something else messing with it.  How are you bandwidth testing?  Try a 
UDP test. 

Shawn C. Peppers

Video Direct

866-680-8433 Toll Free

http://www.video-direct.tv


On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Tim-GM  wrote:



 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:16 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

 

What does the capacity show? 

Shawn C. Peppers

Video Direct

866-680-8433 Toll Free

http://www.video-direct.tv


On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Tim-GM  wrote:

Just noticed airlink at 33db says 500

At 38 db says 728

 

The airfiber maximum power is 33db

 

Can this power be increased on the airfiber?

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Adair Winter
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:48 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

 

If the capacity graph says 760Mb, that's what he's got. and the only channel 
option is 100Mhz.

 

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Adam Greene  wrote:

How much spectrum (channel width) did you allocate to the link?

 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:26 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

 

Same here, with the AF24 line, always see full throughput.  Is it possible the 
routers on the ends can't handle the throughput?  Especially if they are 
generating the traffic for the Bandwidth test. 

On 4/13/2017 7:22 AM, Adair Winter wrote:

we move 700+Mb easily over our air fibers. how are you testing?

 

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Tim-GM  
wrote:

Installed our first AirFiber link 3.62 miles

 

DB numbers 65-66 match the airlink model

We have them set at full duplex

All indications are a 764-759 meg link

 

Yet our TCP-IP throughput is 300-330meg 

 

Any thoughts on why?

 

The signal have solid colors for each chain on both sides

 

What are your experiences

 

 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Shawn C. Peppers]

What are you using for the bandwidth testing?

Shawn C. Peppers
Video Direct
866-680-8433 Toll Free
http://www.video-direct.tv

> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Tim-GM  wrote:
> 
> UDP around 653meg
>  
> But that has NO value.
>  
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:36 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> Must be something else messing with it.  How are you bandwidth testing?  Try 
> a UDP test. 
> 
> Shawn C. Peppers
> Video Direct
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> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Tim-GM  wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:16 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> What does the capacity show? 
> 
> Shawn C. Peppers
> Video Direct
> 866-680-8433 Toll Free
> http://www.video-direct.tv
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Tim-GM  wrote:
> 
> Just noticed airlink at 33db says 500
> At 38 db says 728
>  
> The airfiber maximum power is 33db
>  
> Can this power be increased on the airfiber?
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Adair Winter
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:48 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> If the capacity graph says 760Mb, that's what he's got. and the only channel 
> option is 100Mhz.
>  
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Adam Greene  wrote:
> How much spectrum (channel width) did you allocate to the link?
>  
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Nate Burke
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:26 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> Same here, with the AF24 line, always see full throughput.  Is it possible 
> the routers on the ends can't handle the throughput?  Especially if they are 
> generating the traffic for the Bandwidth test.
> 
> On 4/13/2017 7:22 AM, Adair Winter wrote:
> we move 700+Mb easily over our air fibers. how are you testing?
>  
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Tim-GM  
> wrote:
> Installed our first AirFiber link 3.62 miles
>  
> DB numbers 65-66 match the airlink model
> We have them set at full duplex
> All indications are a 764-759 meg link
>  
> Yet our TCP-IP throughput is 300-330meg
>  
> Any thoughts on why?
>  
> The signal have solid colors for each chain on both sides
>  
> What are your experiences
>  
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Adair Winter]

Af24 will do 90% of whatever the capacity graph shows. So if it's not
moving that much you have some issue generating that much traffic or
ethernet issues.

On Apr 13, 2017 9:43 AM, "Tim-GM"  wrote:

> UDP around 653meg
>
>
>
> But that has NO value.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Shawn C. Peppers
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:36 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>
>
>
> Must be something else messing with it.  How are you bandwidth testing?
> Try a UDP test.
>
> Shawn C. Peppers
>
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>
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Tim-GM 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Shawn C. Peppers
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:16 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>
>
>
> What does the capacity show?
>
> Shawn C. Peppers
>
> Video Direct
>
> 866-680-8433 <(866)%20680-8433> Toll Free
>
> http://www.video-direct.tv
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Tim-GM 
> wrote:
>
> Just noticed airlink at 33db says 500
>
> At 38 db says 728
>
>
>
> The airfiber maximum power is 33db
>
>
>
> Can this power be increased on the airfiber?
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Adair Winter
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:48 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>
>
>
> If the capacity graph says 760Mb, that's what he's got. and the only
> channel option is 100Mhz.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Adam Greene 
> wrote:
>
> How much spectrum (channel width) did you allocate to the link?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:26 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>
>
>
> Same here, with the AF24 line, always see full throughput.  Is it possible
> the routers on the ends can't handle the throughput?  Especially if they
> are generating the traffic for the Bandwidth test.
>
> On 4/13/2017 7:22 AM, Adair Winter wrote:
>
> we move 700+Mb easily over our air fibers. how are you testing?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Tim-GM 
> wrote:
>
> Installed our first AirFiber link 3.62 miles
>
>
>
> DB numbers 65-66 match the airlink model
>
> We have them set at full duplex
>
> All indications are a 764-759 meg link
>
>
>
> Yet our TCP-IP throughput is 300-330meg
>
>
>
> Any thoughts on why?
>
>
>
> The signal have solid colors for each chain on both sides
>
>
>
> What are your experiences
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Tim-GM]

UDP around 653meg



But that has NO value.





From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:36 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber



Must be something else messing with it.  How are you bandwidth testing?  Try a 
UDP test.

Shawn C. Peppers

Video Direct

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http://www.video-direct.tv


On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Tim-GM  > wrote:





From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org   
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:16 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group  >
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber



What does the capacity show?

Shawn C. Peppers

Video Direct

866-680-8433 Toll Free

http://www.video-direct.tv


On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Tim-GM  > wrote:

Just noticed airlink at 33db says 500

At 38 db says 728



The airfiber maximum power is 33db



Can this power be increased on the airfiber?



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org   
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adair Winter
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:48 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group  >
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber



If the capacity graph says 760Mb, that's what he's got. and the only channel 
option is 100Mhz.



On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Adam Greene  > wrote:

How much spectrum (channel width) did you allocate to the link?





From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org   
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org  ] On 
Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:26 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group  >
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber



Same here, with the AF24 line, always see full throughput.  Is it possible the 
routers on the ends can't handle the throughput?  Especially if they are 
generating the traffic for the Bandwidth test.

On 4/13/2017 7:22 AM, Adair Winter wrote:

we move 700+Mb easily over our air fibers. how are you testing?



On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Tim-GM  > wrote:

Installed our first AirFiber link 3.62 miles



DB numbers 65-66 match the airlink model

We have them set at full duplex

All indications are a 764-759 meg link



Yet our TCP-IP throughput is 300-330meg



Any thoughts on why?



The signal have solid colors for each chain on both sides



What are your experiences






 


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Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Shawn C. Peppers]

Must be something else messing with it.  How are you bandwidth testing?  Try a 
UDP test. 

Shawn C. Peppers
Video Direct
866-680-8433 Toll Free
http://www.video-direct.tv

> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Tim-GM  wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:16 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> What does the capacity show? 
> 
> Shawn C. Peppers
> Video Direct
> 866-680-8433 Toll Free
> http://www.video-direct.tv
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Tim-GM  wrote:
> 
> Just noticed airlink at 33db says 500
> At 38 db says 728
>  
> The airfiber maximum power is 33db
>  
> Can this power be increased on the airfiber?
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Adair Winter
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:48 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> If the capacity graph says 760Mb, that's what he's got. and the only channel 
> option is 100Mhz.
>  
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Adam Greene  wrote:
> How much spectrum (channel width) did you allocate to the link?
>  
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Nate Burke
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:26 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> Same here, with the AF24 line, always see full throughput.  Is it possible 
> the routers on the ends can't handle the throughput?  Especially if they are 
> generating the traffic for the Bandwidth test.
> 
> On 4/13/2017 7:22 AM, Adair Winter wrote:
> we move 700+Mb easily over our air fibers. how are you testing?
>  
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Tim-GM  
> wrote:
> Installed our first AirFiber link 3.62 miles
>  
> DB numbers 65-66 match the airlink model
> We have them set at full duplex
> All indications are a 764-759 meg link
>  
> Yet our TCP-IP throughput is 300-330meg
>  
> Any thoughts on why?
>  
> The signal have solid colors for each chain on both sides
>  
> What are your experiences
>  
>  
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

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From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:16 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber



What does the capacity show?

Shawn C. Peppers

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http://www.video-direct.tv


On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Tim-GM  > wrote:

Just noticed airlink at 33db says 500

At 38 db says 728



The airfiber maximum power is 33db



Can this power be increased on the airfiber?



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org   
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adair Winter
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:48 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group  >
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber



If the capacity graph says 760Mb, that's what he's got. and the only channel 
option is 100Mhz.



On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Adam Greene  > wrote:

How much spectrum (channel width) did you allocate to the link?





From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org   
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org  ] On 
Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:26 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group  >
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber



Same here, with the AF24 line, always see full throughput.  Is it possible the 
routers on the ends can't handle the throughput?  Especially if they are 
generating the traffic for the Bandwidth test.

On 4/13/2017 7:22 AM, Adair Winter wrote:

we move 700+Mb easily over our air fibers. how are you testing?



On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Tim-GM  > wrote:

Installed our first AirFiber link 3.62 miles



DB numbers 65-66 match the airlink model

We have them set at full duplex

All indications are a 764-759 meg link



Yet our TCP-IP throughput is 300-330meg



Any thoughts on why?



The signal have solid colors for each chain on both sides



What are your experiences






 


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Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Shawn C. Peppers]

What does the capacity show? 

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http://www.video-direct.tv

> On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Tim-GM  wrote:
> 
> Just noticed airlink at 33db says 500
> At 38 db says 728
>  
> The airfiber maximum power is 33db
>  
> Can this power be increased on the airfiber?
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Adair Winter
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:48 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> If the capacity graph says 760Mb, that's what he's got. and the only channel 
> option is 100Mhz.
>  
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Adam Greene  wrote:
> How much spectrum (channel width) did you allocate to the link?
>  
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Nate Burke
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:26 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber
>  
> Same here, with the AF24 line, always see full throughput.  Is it possible 
> the routers on the ends can't handle the throughput?  Especially if they are 
> generating the traffic for the Bandwidth test.
> 
> On 4/13/2017 7:22 AM, Adair Winter wrote:
> we move 700+Mb easily over our air fibers. how are you testing?
>  
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Tim-GM  
> wrote:
> Installed our first AirFiber link 3.62 miles
>  
> DB numbers 65-66 match the airlink model
> We have them set at full duplex
> All indications are a 764-759 meg link
>  
> Yet our TCP-IP throughput is 300-330meg
>  
> Any thoughts on why?
>  
> The signal have solid colors for each chain on both sides
>  
> What are your experiences
>  
>  
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Mike Hammett]

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From: "Tim-GM"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 9:06:54 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber 



Just noticed airlink at 33db says 500 
At 38 db says 728 

The airfiber maximum power is 33db 

Can this power be increased on the airfiber? 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Adair Winter 
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:48 AM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group  
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber 


If the capacity graph says 760Mb, that's what he's got. and the only channel 
option is 100Mhz. 



On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Adam Greene < maill...@webjogger.net > wrote: 




How much spectrum (channel width) did you allocate to the link? 




From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On 
Behalf Of Nate Burke 
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:26 AM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber 

Same here, with the AF24 line, always see full throughput. Is it possible the 
routers on the ends can't handle the throughput? Especially if they are 
generating the traffic for the Bandwidth test. 

On 4/13/2017 7:22 AM, Adair Winter wrote: 



we move 700+Mb easily over our air fibers. how are you testing? 



On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Tim-GM < t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com > 
wrote: 




Installed our first AirFiber link 3.62 miles 

DB numbers 65-66 match the airlink model 
We have them set at full duplex 
All indications are a 764-759 meg link 

Yet our TCP-IP throughput is 300-330meg 

Any thoughts on why? 

The signal have solid colors for each chain on both sides 

What are your experiences 




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Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Nate Burke]

Same here, with the AF24 line, always see full throughput.  Is it 
possible the routers on the ends can't handle the throughput? Especially 
if they are generating the traffic for the Bandwidth test.


On 4/13/2017 7:22 AM, Adair Winter wrote:

we move 700+Mb easily over our air fibers. how are you testing?

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Tim-GM 
> wrote:


Installed our first AirFiber link 3.62 miles

DB numbers 65-66 match the airlink model

We have them set at full duplex

All indications are a 764-759 meg link

Yet our TCP-IP throughput is 300-330meg

Any thoughts on why?

The signal have solid colors for each chain on both sides

What are your experiences




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Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Adam Greene]

How much spectrum (channel width) did you allocate to the link?

 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:26 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

 

Same here, with the AF24 line, always see full throughput.  Is it possible
the routers on the ends can't handle the throughput?  Especially if they are
generating the traffic for the Bandwidth test. 

On 4/13/2017 7:22 AM, Adair Winter wrote:

we move 700+Mb easily over our air fibers. how are you testing?

 

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Tim-GM  > wrote:

Installed our first AirFiber link 3.62 miles

 

DB numbers 65-66 match the airlink model

We have them set at full duplex

All indications are a 764-759 meg link

 

Yet our TCP-IP throughput is 300-330meg 

 

Any thoughts on why?

 

The signal have solid colors for each chain on both sides

 

What are your experiences

 

 


 
 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Adair Winter]

we move 700+Mb easily over our air fibers. how are you testing?

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Tim-GM 
wrote:

> Installed our first AirFiber link 3.62 miles
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> DB numbers 65-66 match the airlink model
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> We have them set at full duplex
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> All indications are a 764-759 meg link
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> Yet our TCP-IP throughput is 300-330meg
>
>
>
> Any thoughts on why?
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>
> The signal have solid colors for each chain on both sides
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> What are your experiences
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[Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Tim-GM]

Installed our first AirFiber link 3.62 miles

 

DB numbers 65-66 match the airlink model

We have them set at full duplex

All indications are a 764-759 meg link

 

Yet our TCP-IP throughput is 300-330meg 

 

Any thoughts on why?

 

The signal have solid colors for each chain on both sides

 

What are your experiences

 



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