Re: Advice for a weekend spam assassin?
James Bucanek wrote: When I installed SA, I also installed Pyzor (there was some reason I couldn't get Razor or DCC to compile, but I can't remember what that is now). I was all set to configure it, when I just became totally confused. The only documentation I could find was the man pages, in that typically dense Unix man page style: server=address sets the server Of course, this doesn't tell you what a server is, does, or what address you should put there. I certainly wasn't going to just start putting in random addresses, possibly screwing up the entire Pyzor network, when I had no idea what I was doing. Do you have a link to a step-by-step instructions that explains how to set up Pyzor? Maybe I'll make Pyzor my project or next weekend. I've found this page pretty helpful: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SingleUserUnixInstall
RE: Advice for a weekend spam assassin?
Stuart Johnston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Bucanek wrote: When I installed SA, I also installed Pyzor (there was some reason I couldn't get Razor or DCC to compile, but I can't remember what that is now). I was all set to configure it, when I just became totally confused. The only documentation I could find was the man pages, in that typically dense Unix man page style: server=address sets the server Of course, this doesn't tell you what a server is, does, or what address you should put there. I certainly wasn't going to just start putting in random addresses, possibly screwing up the entire Pyzor network, when I had no idea what I was doing. Do you have a link to a step-by-step instructions that explains how to set up Pyzor? Maybe I'll make Pyzor my project or next weekend. I've found this page pretty helpful: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SingleUserUnixInstall SA usually detects pyzor's presence automatically once it is installed. No config required. Do a --lint test and look for pyzor entries.
Re: Advice for a weekend spam assassin?
Steven Dickenson wrote on Friday, June 10, 2005: James Bucanek wrote: Greetings, As you can see, the Bayes filter has nailed it as spam, but it still only gets a score of 3.6. Bayes scores are really quite low in SA v3 - 3.0.2. You may want to upgrade to 3.0.3 to get the newer Bayes scores, or revert to the v2.6x scores in your local.cf. We've done the later here with no ill effect, by putting the following block in our local.cf. score BAYES_00 0 0 -1.665 -2.599 score BAYES_05 0 0 -0.925 -0.413 score BAYES_20 0 0 -0.730 -1.951 score BAYES_40 0 0 -0.276 -1.096 score BAYES_50 0 0 1.567 0.001 score BAYES_60 0 0 3.515 1.372 score BAYES_80 0 0 3.608 2.087 score BAYES_95 0 0 3.514 3.063 score BAYES_99 0 0 4.070 4.886 Thanks Steven. It's the weekend, so it's time for me to get on the server and start wrecking things. I'm going to start by upping the Bayes scores as you have suggested. This has alwasy been a consistent suggestion from others, and it's an easy first step. I currently have my threshold set to 7.0. I've been considering lowering it again (maybe to 5.0), but am paranoid about false positives. I can go through my mailbox and see ham that has scores of 3 or even 4. I only tag my personal/family accounts, so FP's, while annoying, are only a folder away (I tag at 4, everyone else at 5). However, I've only had 2 FP in the last year, and both were from mortgage companies when I was going through a refi. Would you mind posting some of your higher-scoring ham, with headers? It's possible you have a misconfiguration in some of your settings. It's possible. Here's an example. Note that I don't have too many ham messages that get a score of more than 1 or even 2, but I'd still hate to lose them. ;) From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jun 5 17:24:23 2005 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by twilightandbarking.com (Cyrus v2.2.12-OS X 10.3) with LMTPA; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 10:24:23 -0700 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: by mail.twilightandbarking.com (Postfix, from userid -2) id 1150C27DC807; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 10:24:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from phxamgw02.aexp.com (phxamgw02.aexp.com [193.32.34.74]) by mail.twilightandbarking.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B5627DC805 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 10:24:22 -0700 (MST) Received: by phxamgw02.aexp.com; id KAA18183; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 10:23:46 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 10:23:46 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from unknown(148.173.240.35) by phxamgw02.aexp.com via smap (V5.5) id xmapb7017; Sun, 5 Jun 05 09:42:53 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: \American Express\American Express [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: American Express [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Alert: Payment Reminder Message-Source: ENG-ALERTS Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary=0__=85256B8B0056C1C08f9e8a93df938690918c85256B8B0056C1C0 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on twilightandbarking.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.1 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_99,HTML_90_100, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_FONT_TINY,HTML_MESSAGE,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=3.0.2 As you can see, this one got pegged as SPAM by Bayes. Which is what makes me nervous about raising the Bayes scores. I'll run these all through my learn-ham script and see if the scores don't improve (i.e. get lower). I was previously using a client-side Bayes filtering system and was getting 99.8+% spam identification rates. SA has been, so far, a bit of a disappointment and I'm sure it's my fault. :) My home account probably gets a 5 9's identification rate, with a near zero FP rate. SARE rulesets, network tests, and a well trained Bayes database make a huge difference in the performance of SA. Make sure your trusted_networks are set correct and enable network tests, URIBL tests, and Razor/Pyzor. Check out the CustomRuleset section of the wiki for info on SARE and other rulesets. I'm still so confused about how to set up Razor, that I haven't even looked at it since I downloaded and compiled it. Maybe I'll take a stab at Razor again next weekend. -- James Bucanek mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advice for a weekend spam assassin?
Thomas Cameron wrote on Friday, June 10, 2005: I have SA (plus spamass-milter to reject, but that's not important for this discussion) on a bunch of servers at various client sites. All of them except one just flat stop spam. Period. Those clients are just tickled pink with the results. The one client who does not allow me to use Razor, Pyzor and DCC (they won't open their firewall) is very dissatisfied with the solution. It is incredibly frustrating. So my answer to you would be to install those three helpers and make sure that you have a recent Net::DNS installation. You will see accuracy go *way* up. When I installed SA, I also installed Pyzor (there was some reason I couldn't get Razor or DCC to compile, but I can't remember what that is now). I was all set to configure it, when I just became totally confused. The only documentation I could find was the man pages, in that typically dense Unix man page style: server=address sets the server Of course, this doesn't tell you what a server is, does, or what address you should put there. I certainly wasn't going to just start putting in random addresses, possibly screwing up the entire Pyzor network, when I had no idea what I was doing. Do you have a link to a step-by-step instructions that explains how to set up Pyzor? Maybe I'll make Pyzor my project or next weekend. James -- James Bucanek mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advice for a weekend spam assassin?
jdow wrote on Friday, June 10, 2005: 1) You need to visit http://www.rulesemporium.com/ and select at least a few of the SARE rules sets. They do really help SA performance. I'm checking these out now. 2) I found best results here if I bucked up the BAYES_99 rule to 5 points. So far I have not seen that trigger a ham message with per user Bayes. That per user Bayes is important. Shared Bayes is not nearly as effective and should be banned in Boston - and the rest of the world, too. It's a copout. Users MUST be prepared to help by training their personal filters. Otherwise they must accept increased spam escapes. I'm bumping up my Bayes scores in just a few minutes. We'll see what happens. As for per-user Bayes, I'm afriad that's simply out of the question. I have one user who still won't use subject lines, and another who hasn't figured out how to address e-mail yet (she just uses Reply). Seriously. Trying to explain Bayes filtering would be an exercise in futility. I have to provide a server-side solution and manage it myself, or do nothing at all. 3) 3.0.4 is out. It installs nicely. (But give it a lot of time for some of its tests. My first shot at a CPAN install I thought it had died or locked up on a couple tests.) Does it make that much of a difference over 3.0.2? If so, I might take a shot at upgrading later this month or next, when I get the time. -- James Bucanek mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advice for a weekend spam assassin?
From: James Bucanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] jdow wrote on Friday, June 10, 2005: 1) You need to visit http://www.rulesemporium.com/ and select at least a few of the SARE rules sets. They do really help SA performance. I'm checking these out now. 2) I found best results here if I bucked up the BAYES_99 rule to 5 points. So far I have not seen that trigger a ham message with per user Bayes. That per user Bayes is important. Shared Bayes is not nearly as effective and should be banned in Boston - and the rest of the world, too. It's a copout. Users MUST be prepared to help by training their personal filters. Otherwise they must accept increased spam escapes. I'm bumping up my Bayes scores in just a few minutes. We'll see what happens. As for per-user Bayes, I'm afriad that's simply out of the question. I have one user who still won't use subject lines, and another who hasn't figured out how to address e-mail yet (she just uses Reply). Seriously. Trying to explain Bayes filtering would be an exercise in futility. I have to provide a server-side solution and manage it myself, or do nothing at all. [JDOW] If that is the case then beef up the SARE rules. You WILL leak since per site Bayes cannot handle the job. One person's ham is another person's spam. And if the people will not train on spam then either you must read every email yourself and decide whether it is ham or spam for training or you should just take Bayes out of the equation. People who are too lazy to train Bayes are just going to have to suffer from spam. Be happy with low catch rates unless all your interests and spam words are the same. 3) 3.0.4 is out. It installs nicely. (But give it a lot of time for some of its tests. My first shot at a CPAN install I thought it had died or locked up on a couple tests.) Does it make that much of a difference over 3.0.2? If so, I might take a shot at upgrading later this month or next, when I get the time. [JDOW] Yes. {^_^}
Advice for a weekend spam assassin?
Greetings, I consider myself a weekend spam assassin. I run my own server (co-located), and have about a dozen users (mostly friends and family, but a few paying customers). But running a mail server isn't my day job. I don't run Razor or any of the cooperative spam filters simply because I didn't have the time to figure them out and set them up. I'm running Spamassassin 3.0.2 which I installed a few months ago. SA is still only catching about 50-75% of the spam. I've set up Bayes learn ham/spam mailboxes, and I regularly feed them 200 to 500 messages a day. Yet even after months of training, I still get messages like this: Subject: (6/10/05) Mortgage Rate Report X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.6 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_99,HTML_80_90, HTML_FONT_TINY,HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_04,HTML_MESSAGE,NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP, OPTING_OUT autolearn=no version=3.0.2 As you can see, the Bayes filter has nailed it as spam, but it still only gets a score of 3.6. I currently have my threshold set to 7.0. I've been considering lowering it again (maybe to 5.0), but am paranoid about false positives. I can go through my mailbox and see ham that has scores of 3 or even 4. I was hoping that someone here could give me some quick advice as to what I might be doing wrong, or point me to a trouble-shooting site for SA. I was previously using a client-side Bayes filtering system and was getting 99.8+% spam identification rates. SA has been, so far, a bit of a disappointment and I'm sure it's my fault. :) -- James Bucanek mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Advice for a weekend spam assassin?
I consider myself a weekend spam assassin. I run my own server (co-located), and have about a dozen users (mostly friends and family, but a few paying customers). But running a mail server isn't my day job. I don't run Razor or any of the cooperative spam filters simply because I didn't have the time to figure them out and set them up. I'm running Spamassassin 3.0.2 which I installed a few months ago. SA is still only catching about 50-75% of the spam. I've set up Bayes learn ham/spam mailboxes, and I regularly feed them 200 to 500 messages a day. Yet even after months of training, I still get messages like this: Subject: (6/10/05) Mortgage Rate Report X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.6 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_99,HTML_80_90, HTML_FONT_TINY,HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_04,HTML_MESSAGE,NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP, OPTING_OUT autolearn=no version=3.0.2 As you can see, the Bayes filter has nailed it as spam, but it still only gets a score of 3.6. I currently have my threshold set to 7.0. I've been considering lowering it again (maybe to 5.0), but am paranoid about false positives. I can go through my mailbox and see ham that has scores of 3 or even 4. I was hoping that someone here could give me some quick advice as to what I might be doing wrong, or point me to a trouble-shooting site for SA. I was previously using a client-side Bayes filtering system and was getting 99.8+% spam identification rates. SA has been, so far, a bit of a disappointment and I'm sure it's my fault. :) Running SpamAssassin is more of an art than a science. You'll probably catch more spam by picking up most of the rules at: http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules.htm Bayes isn't scored terribly high in the default rule scorings. If you're diligently training bayes, you might find that increasing the score in local.cf would help you: For example: Score bayes_99 4.0 I run a mail server for a non-profit, so I don't get to spend too much time on it. With SA 2.5x and 2.6x we used a threshhold of 8 to drop spam. With SA 3.x, I had to lower the threshhold to 4 to catch the same amount of spam. It's fairly rare that we have FPs even at 4. HTH Bret
Re: Advice for a weekend spam assassin?
James Bucanek wrote: Greetings, As you can see, the Bayes filter has nailed it as spam, but it still only gets a score of 3.6. Bayes scores are really quite low in SA v3 - 3.0.2. You may want to upgrade to 3.0.3 to get the newer Bayes scores, or revert to the v2.6x scores in your local.cf. We've done the later here with no ill effect, by putting the following block in our local.cf. score BAYES_00 0 0 -1.665 -2.599 score BAYES_05 0 0 -0.925 -0.413 score BAYES_20 0 0 -0.730 -1.951 score BAYES_40 0 0 -0.276 -1.096 score BAYES_50 0 0 1.567 0.001 score BAYES_60 0 0 3.515 1.372 score BAYES_80 0 0 3.608 2.087 score BAYES_95 0 0 3.514 3.063 score BAYES_99 0 0 4.070 4.886 I currently have my threshold set to 7.0. I've been considering lowering it again (maybe to 5.0), but am paranoid about false positives. I can go through my mailbox and see ham that has scores of 3 or even 4. I only tag my personal/family accounts, so FP's, while annoying, are only a folder away (I tag at 4, everyone else at 5). However, I've only had 2 FP in the last year, and both were from mortgage companies when I was going through a refi. Would you mind posting some of your higher-scoring ham, with headers? It's possible you have a misconfiguration in some of your settings. I was previously using a client-side Bayes filtering system and was getting 99.8+% spam identification rates. SA has been, so far, a bit of a disappointment and I'm sure it's my fault. :) My home account probably gets a 5 9's identification rate, with a near zero FP rate. SARE rulesets, network tests, and a well trained Bayes database make a huge difference in the performance of SA. Make sure your trusted_networks are set correct and enable network tests, URIBL tests, and Razor/Pyzor. Check out the CustomRuleset section of the wiki for info on SARE and other rulesets. - S
Re: Advice for a weekend spam assassin?
Running SpamAssassin is more of an art than a science. You'll probably catch more spam by picking up most of the rules at: http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules.htm Or better yet, use RulesDuJour: http://www.exit0.us/index.php?pagename=RulesDuJour Configure it up to get the rulesets you want, run it once or twice a week from cron, and you'll rarely have to think about it again. Just make sure to look at the report mails it sends for notifications of new versions of RDJ, or for problems with the update process.
Re: Advice for a weekend spam assassin?
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 08:06 -0700, James Bucanek wrote: Greetings, I consider myself a weekend spam assassin. I run my own server (co-located), and have about a dozen users (mostly friends and family, but a few paying customers). But running a mail server isn't my day job. I don't run Razor or any of the cooperative spam filters simply because I didn't have the time to figure them out and set them up. I'm running Spamassassin 3.0.2 which I installed a few months ago. SA is still only catching about 50-75% of the spam. I've set up Bayes learn ham/spam mailboxes, and I regularly feed them 200 to 500 messages a day. Yet even after months of training, I still get messages like this: Subject: (6/10/05) Mortgage Rate Report X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.6 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_99,HTML_80_90, HTML_FONT_TINY,HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_04,HTML_MESSAGE,NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP, OPTING_OUT autolearn=no version=3.0.2 As you can see, the Bayes filter has nailed it as spam, but it still only gets a score of 3.6. I currently have my threshold set to 7.0. I've been considering lowering it again (maybe to 5.0), but am paranoid about false positives. I can go through my mailbox and see ham that has scores of 3 or even 4. I was hoping that someone here could give me some quick advice as to what I might be doing wrong, or point me to a trouble-shooting site for SA. I was previously using a client-side Bayes filtering system and was getting 99.8+% spam identification rates. SA has been, so far, a bit of a disappointment and I'm sure it's my fault. :) I have SA (plus spamass-milter to reject, but that's not important for this discussion) on a bunch of servers at various client sites. All of them except one just flat stop spam. Period. Those clients are just tickled pink with the results. The one client who does not allow me to use Razor, Pyzor and DCC (they won't open their firewall) is very dissatisfied with the solution. It is incredibly frustrating. So my answer to you would be to install those three helpers and make sure that you have a recent Net::DNS installation. You will see accuracy go *way* up. Thomas
Re: Advice for a weekend spam assassin?
1) You need to visit http://www.rulesemporium.com/ and select at least a few of the SARE rules sets. They do really help SA performance. 2) I found best results here if I bucked up the BAYES_99 rule to 5 points. So far I have not seen that trigger a ham message with per user Bayes. That per user Bayes is important. Shared Bayes is not nearly as effective and should be banned in Boston - and the rest of the world, too. It's a copout. Users MUST be prepared to help by training their personal filters. Otherwise they must accept increased spam escapes. 3) 3.0.4 is out. It installs nicely. (But give it a lot of time for some of its tests. My first shot at a CPAN install I thought it had died or locked up on a couple tests.) 4) 5 is a good threshold. NEVER discard messages marked as spam unless you do this at a rather high markup level. (SARE rules help make THAT happen.) A subject markup that includes the spam score is handy for the users. (I use a three digit markup since I have seen really nasty messages rack up 100 point scores here - on small score rules.) Then the user can feed *** SPAM(099) *** messages into a spam folder by sorting on the *** SPAM part. They should review the contents before discarding. Sort the mailbox alphabetically and look at the low scores briefly - a minute suffices for me even when I see something peculiar I want to make sure is already properly Bayesed. (You can verb ANY noun. {^_-}) 5) For children's accounts modify the procedure so that their parent can vet the mail and drop any false markups into their children's folders. If the parents take a little extra time they can take the false markup message and extract the real message attachment to put in the child's mailbox. That part is up to them. 6) Do NOT use autolearn or autowhitelist. The idea is intriguing but I see too many busted Bayes databases from those abuse tools. I manual train rather seldom. About every 6 months I remember to run some random batches of ham though the ham training. Every time I see a very low score spam (or an escaped spam) with low Bayes I train on those messages. Otherwise I just let it perk along doing its thing. I do use wetware Bayes phrase filtering better known as the SARE rule sets and update them periodically. Practical results: About 1 escaped spam a day out of 300+ spams. About 2 mismarks a day chiefly from the Linux Kernel Mailing List. (Patch sets and bug reports with dumps confuse the SARE rules.) (And sometimes AOL mails come through mismarked because they yet again screwed up their server configuration.) Specifically: Yesterday out of 700+ messages I had no escaped spam and 3 mismarked LKML spams. In the last 9 hours I've already received one Mexican language spam get through. That may be my escaped spam for the day or I might get another. No ham has been mismarked. {^_^} Thus be Joanne's configuration du jour. By the way, I use some 43 of the SARE and other rule sets. I go a trifle overboard, methinks. It's a dangerous job but somebody has t0 do it - Super Chicken. - Original Message - From: James Bucanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: 2005 June, 10, Friday 08:06 Subject: Advice for a weekend spam assassin? Greetings, I consider myself a weekend spam assassin. I run my own server (co-located), and have about a dozen users (mostly friends and family, but a few paying customers). But running a mail server isn't my day job. I don't run Razor or any of the cooperative spam filters simply because I didn't have the time to figure them out and set them up. I'm running Spamassassin 3.0.2 which I installed a few months ago. SA is still only catching about 50-75% of the spam. I've set up Bayes learn ham/spam mailboxes, and I regularly feed them 200 to 500 messages a day. Yet even after months of training, I still get messages like this: Subject: (6/10/05) Mortgage Rate Report X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.6 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_99,HTML_80_90, HTML_FONT_TINY,HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_04,HTML_MESSAGE,NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP, OPTING_OUT autolearn=no version=3.0.2 As you can see, the Bayes filter has nailed it as spam, but it still only gets a score of 3.6. I currently have my threshold set to 7.0. I've been considering lowering it again (maybe to 5.0), but am paranoid about false positives. I can go through my mailbox and see ham that has scores of 3 or even 4. I was hoping that someone here could give me some quick advice as to what I might be doing wrong, or point me to a trouble-shooting site for SA. I was previously using a client-side Bayes filtering system and was getting 99.8+% spam identification rates. SA has been, so far, a bit of a disappointment and I'm sure it's my fault. :) -- James Bucanek mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advice for a weekend spam assassin?
On Friday June 10 2005 11:16 am, Thomas Cameron wrote: On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 08:06 -0700, James Bucanek wrote: Greetings, I consider myself a weekend spam assassin. I run my own server (co-located), and have about a dozen users (mostly friends and family, but a few paying customers). But running a mail server isn't my day job. I don't run Razor or any of the cooperative spam filters simply because I didn't have the time to figure them out and set them up. I'm running Spamassassin 3.0.2 which I installed a few months ago. SA is still only catching about 50-75% of the spam. I've set up Bayes learn ham/spam mailboxes, and I regularly feed them 200 to 500 messages a day. Yet even after months of training, I still get messages like this: Subject: (6/10/05) Mortgage Rate Report X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.6 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_99,HTML_80_90, HTML_FONT_TINY,HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_04,HTML_MESSAGE,NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP, OPTING_OUT autolearn=no version=3.0.2 As you can see, the Bayes filter has nailed it as spam, but it still only gets a score of 3.6. I currently have my threshold set to 7.0. I've been considering lowering it again (maybe to 5.0), but am paranoid about false positives. I can go through my mailbox and see ham that has scores of 3 or even 4. I was hoping that someone here could give me some quick advice as to what I might be doing wrong, or point me to a trouble-shooting site for SA. I was previously using a client-side Bayes filtering system and was getting 99.8+% spam identification rates. SA has been, so far, a bit of a disappointment and I'm sure it's my fault. :) I have SA (plus spamass-milter to reject, but that's not important for this discussion) on a bunch of servers at various client sites. All of them except one just flat stop spam. Period. Those clients are just tickled pink with the results. The one client who does not allow me to use Razor, Pyzor and DCC (they won't open their firewall) is very dissatisfied with the solution. It is incredibly frustrating. So my answer to you would be to install those three helpers and make sure that you have a recent Net::DNS installation. You will see accuracy go *way* up. Thomas I hope you don't mind my breaking into this thread, but I have a question regarding SA helpers. My mail setup is sendmail with spamassassin, and I'm using SARE rules and bayes. Ours is a small shop (mail vol. about 1000 msgs./day). Right now, I get virtually no FPs, and an occaisional FN. As we grow, I would expect that we'll be receiving more spam. What would Razor, Pyzor, and DCC do for me? Sorry for my ignorance. Dimitri
Re: Advice for a weekend spam assassin?
Dimitri Yioulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/10/2005 01:00:51 PM: I hope you don't mind my breaking into this thread, but I have a question regarding SA helpers. My mail setup is sendmail with spamassassin, and I'm using SARE rules and bayes. Ours is a small shop (mail vol. about 1000 msgs./day). Right now, I get virtually no FPs, and an occaisional FN. As we grow, I would expect that we'll be receiving more spam. What would Razor, Pyzor, and DCC do for me? Sorry for my ignorance. Dimitri They'll increase your chance of catching that occaisional spam that might slip through. The DCC and Razor rules are routinely 3, 4 5 in my top 10 most active rules. Right behind HTML_Message Bayes_99. YMMV Andy
Re: Advice for a weekend spam assassin?
Why such teeny tiny letters? None of us here seem to have teeny tiny eyes. {O.O} - Original Message - From: Andy Jezierski To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: 2005 June, 10, Friday 11:22 Subject: Re: Advice for a weekend spam assassin? Dimitri Yioulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/10/2005 01:00:51 PM: I hope you don't mind my breaking into this thread, but I have a question regarding SA helpers. My mail setup is sendmail with spamassassin, and I'm using SARE rules and bayes. Ours is a small shop (mail vol. about 1000 msgs./day). Right now, I get virtually no FPs, and an occaisional FN. As we grow, I would expect that we'll be receiving more spam. What would Razor, Pyzor, and DCC do for me? Sorry for my ignorance. DimitriThey'll increase your chance of catching that occaisional spam that might slip through. The DCC and Razor rules are routinely 3, 4 5 in my top 10 most active rules. Right behind HTML_Message Bayes_99. YMMV Andy