RE: OT: Web Services

2010-08-30 Thread Jim O'Callaghan
Good point Peter.  I'll see if I can fit this in, though my work will be more 
migration from XFire to CXF, and using another filter to intercept ws calls, 
rather than the Tapestry filter, so not sure if it really counts as 
"integrating" with Tap.  The code I've inherited is using a lot of Spring 
beans, though I've injected some T5 services into those ...

Regards,
Jim.

-Original Message-
From: Peter Stavrinides [mailto:p.stavrini...@albourne.com] 
Sent: 30 August 2010 14:36
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: OT: Web Services

... sorry to leach on this thread, but perhaps a short blog on integrating 
Metro or CXF with Tapestry would be useful. 

cheers,
Peter

- Original Message -
From: "Kristian Marinkovic" 
To: "Tapestry users" 
Sent: Monday, 30 August, 2010 16:22:40 GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, Bucharest, 
Istanbul
Subject: Re: OT: Web Services

hi,

i use a (JaxWS)HttpServletRequestFilter service to intercept WS calls to 
my application. it will only intercept calls that have the url pattern of 
the provided WS that can be configured. and i'm using metro too. we 
switched from cxf to metro because it was easier to work with jaxb-binding 
overrides...

g,
kris



Von:Peter Stavrinides 
An: Tapestry users 
Datum:  30.08.2010 14:59
Betreff:Re: OT: Web Services



Hi Jim

I evaluated quite a few Java WS stacks and was between CXF and Metro, but 
in the end I chose metro, but to be honest there was very little to choose 
btw the two... so I would suggest those two as the leading Java WS stacks. 
Both support maven and are very complete in terms of how much of the web 
service set of standards they support. 

Metro implements JAXWS 2.1 and JAXB2.2, so if the marketing babble is to 
be trusted its 'meant' to be higher performing and more extensible, but I 
haven't tested that claim yet. In any event it has an impressive array of 
security features. It also ships with the standard glassfish installation, 
which means no server configuration is needed if you go that route, I 
installed it though with Tomcat, it was as easy as executing a script... 
not too hard at all. 

Depending how you wish to approach you applications, you can use 
annotations for the meta programming, and avoid a lot of the messy xml. I 
found it to be really clean and the closest to Microsofts .Net platform 
implementation which is IMHO a very good implementation of Web Services 
...at least more impressive than anything I have seen in the Java 
community, but I feel the gap is closing slowly.

To integrate with Tapestry I simply overrode Tapestry filter... I am not 
aware of any more elegant approach, although I made a few inquiries on 
this list in the past. 

Cheers,
Peter

- Original Message -
From: "Jim O'Callaghan" 
To: "Tapestry users" 
Sent: Monday, 30 August, 2010 10:52:44 GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, 
Bucharest, Istanbul
Subject: RE: OT: Web Services

Kalle, Daniel,

Thanks for the responses.  Good to know that there are positive 
experiences
with CXF.  It's probably the front-runner for me at the moment, but will
keep an ear open for any other feedback.  Looking at my original query I 
can
see that it looks like I am focusing on generating WS clients - I should
have said "providing interfaces for a system" rather than "interfacing 
with
a system".

Regards,
Jim.

-Original Message-
From: Kalle Korhonen [mailto:kalle.o.korho...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 30 August 2010 03:43
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: OT: Web Services

Second that. CXF is the successor to XFire and its solid.

Kalle


On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Honig 
wrote:
> I know of many projects using CXF without complaints.  I'd say that CXF 
is
> probably a good way to go.
>
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Jim O'Callaghan
> wrote:
>
>> I'm aware this is off topic, but since there are so many people on the
list
>> with a broad skill set am hoping I can learn from their experiences /
>> heartbreak.  I am evaluating various WS stacks for interfacing with a
>> system
>> - currently I am using XFire as it requires very little configuration 
and
>> performs quite efficiently.  XFire appears to qualify every xml element
>> with
>> a namespace, bloating the payload considerably, or, if using the patch
from
>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/XFIRE-687 appears to have unreliable /
>> inconsistent namespace qualifiers.  Can anyone recommend a good WS 
stack
>> they have positive experience of?  My constraints are quite liberal -
java
>> 1.5 up, currently jetty as an AS, spring 3.0.2.RELEASE.  Is CXF any 
good?
>>  I
>> want to find something with good performance obviously, minimal config,
and
>> hopefully something that consistently defines package level namespaces 
at
>> an
>>

RE: OT: Web Services

2010-08-30 Thread Jim O'Callaghan
This is stellar stuff guys - you're saving me a lot of headaches.  Thanks.

Regards,
Jim.

-Original Message-
From: Peter Stavrinides [mailto:p.stavrini...@albourne.com] 
Sent: 30 August 2010 14:36
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: OT: Web Services

... sorry to leach on this thread, but perhaps a short blog on integrating 
Metro or CXF with Tapestry would be useful. 

cheers,
Peter

- Original Message -
From: "Kristian Marinkovic" 
To: "Tapestry users" 
Sent: Monday, 30 August, 2010 16:22:40 GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, Bucharest, 
Istanbul
Subject: Re: OT: Web Services

hi,

i use a (JaxWS)HttpServletRequestFilter service to intercept WS calls to 
my application. it will only intercept calls that have the url pattern of 
the provided WS that can be configured. and i'm using metro too. we 
switched from cxf to metro because it was easier to work with jaxb-binding 
overrides...

g,
kris



Von:Peter Stavrinides 
An: Tapestry users 
Datum:  30.08.2010 14:59
Betreff:Re: OT: Web Services



Hi Jim

I evaluated quite a few Java WS stacks and was between CXF and Metro, but 
in the end I chose metro, but to be honest there was very little to choose 
btw the two... so I would suggest those two as the leading Java WS stacks. 
Both support maven and are very complete in terms of how much of the web 
service set of standards they support. 

Metro implements JAXWS 2.1 and JAXB2.2, so if the marketing babble is to 
be trusted its 'meant' to be higher performing and more extensible, but I 
haven't tested that claim yet. In any event it has an impressive array of 
security features. It also ships with the standard glassfish installation, 
which means no server configuration is needed if you go that route, I 
installed it though with Tomcat, it was as easy as executing a script... 
not too hard at all. 

Depending how you wish to approach you applications, you can use 
annotations for the meta programming, and avoid a lot of the messy xml. I 
found it to be really clean and the closest to Microsofts .Net platform 
implementation which is IMHO a very good implementation of Web Services 
...at least more impressive than anything I have seen in the Java 
community, but I feel the gap is closing slowly.

To integrate with Tapestry I simply overrode Tapestry filter... I am not 
aware of any more elegant approach, although I made a few inquiries on 
this list in the past. 

Cheers,
Peter

- Original Message -
From: "Jim O'Callaghan" 
To: "Tapestry users" 
Sent: Monday, 30 August, 2010 10:52:44 GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, 
Bucharest, Istanbul
Subject: RE: OT: Web Services

Kalle, Daniel,

Thanks for the responses.  Good to know that there are positive 
experiences
with CXF.  It's probably the front-runner for me at the moment, but will
keep an ear open for any other feedback.  Looking at my original query I 
can
see that it looks like I am focusing on generating WS clients - I should
have said "providing interfaces for a system" rather than "interfacing 
with
a system".

Regards,
Jim.

-Original Message-
From: Kalle Korhonen [mailto:kalle.o.korho...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 30 August 2010 03:43
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: OT: Web Services

Second that. CXF is the successor to XFire and its solid.

Kalle


On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Honig 
wrote:
> I know of many projects using CXF without complaints.  I'd say that CXF 
is
> probably a good way to go.
>
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Jim O'Callaghan
> wrote:
>
>> I'm aware this is off topic, but since there are so many people on the
list
>> with a broad skill set am hoping I can learn from their experiences /
>> heartbreak.  I am evaluating various WS stacks for interfacing with a
>> system
>> - currently I am using XFire as it requires very little configuration 
and
>> performs quite efficiently.  XFire appears to qualify every xml element
>> with
>> a namespace, bloating the payload considerably, or, if using the patch
from
>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/XFIRE-687 appears to have unreliable /
>> inconsistent namespace qualifiers.  Can anyone recommend a good WS 
stack
>> they have positive experience of?  My constraints are quite liberal -
java
>> 1.5 up, currently jetty as an AS, spring 3.0.2.RELEASE.  Is CXF any 
good?
>>  I
>> want to find something with good performance obviously, minimal config,
and
>> hopefully something that consistently defines package level namespaces 
at
>> an
>> envelope level and reuses them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Jim.
>>
>>
>

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Re: OT: Web Services

2010-08-30 Thread Peter Stavrinides
... sorry to leach on this thread, but perhaps a short blog on integrating 
Metro or CXF with Tapestry would be useful. 

cheers,
Peter

- Original Message -
From: "Kristian Marinkovic" 
To: "Tapestry users" 
Sent: Monday, 30 August, 2010 16:22:40 GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, Bucharest, 
Istanbul
Subject: Re: OT: Web Services

hi,

i use a (JaxWS)HttpServletRequestFilter service to intercept WS calls to 
my application. it will only intercept calls that have the url pattern of 
the provided WS that can be configured. and i'm using metro too. we 
switched from cxf to metro because it was easier to work with jaxb-binding 
overrides...

g,
kris



Von:Peter Stavrinides 
An: Tapestry users 
Datum:  30.08.2010 14:59
Betreff:    Re: OT: Web Services



Hi Jim

I evaluated quite a few Java WS stacks and was between CXF and Metro, but 
in the end I chose metro, but to be honest there was very little to choose 
btw the two... so I would suggest those two as the leading Java WS stacks. 
Both support maven and are very complete in terms of how much of the web 
service set of standards they support. 

Metro implements JAXWS 2.1 and JAXB2.2, so if the marketing babble is to 
be trusted its 'meant' to be higher performing and more extensible, but I 
haven't tested that claim yet. In any event it has an impressive array of 
security features. It also ships with the standard glassfish installation, 
which means no server configuration is needed if you go that route, I 
installed it though with Tomcat, it was as easy as executing a script... 
not too hard at all. 

Depending how you wish to approach you applications, you can use 
annotations for the meta programming, and avoid a lot of the messy xml. I 
found it to be really clean and the closest to Microsofts .Net platform 
implementation which is IMHO a very good implementation of Web Services 
...at least more impressive than anything I have seen in the Java 
community, but I feel the gap is closing slowly.

To integrate with Tapestry I simply overrode Tapestry filter... I am not 
aware of any more elegant approach, although I made a few inquiries on 
this list in the past. 

Cheers,
Peter

- Original Message -
From: "Jim O'Callaghan" 
To: "Tapestry users" 
Sent: Monday, 30 August, 2010 10:52:44 GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, 
Bucharest, Istanbul
Subject: RE: OT: Web Services

Kalle, Daniel,

Thanks for the responses.  Good to know that there are positive 
experiences
with CXF.  It's probably the front-runner for me at the moment, but will
keep an ear open for any other feedback.  Looking at my original query I 
can
see that it looks like I am focusing on generating WS clients - I should
have said "providing interfaces for a system" rather than "interfacing 
with
a system".

Regards,
Jim.

-Original Message-
From: Kalle Korhonen [mailto:kalle.o.korho...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 30 August 2010 03:43
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: OT: Web Services

Second that. CXF is the successor to XFire and its solid.

Kalle


On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Honig 
wrote:
> I know of many projects using CXF without complaints.  I'd say that CXF 
is
> probably a good way to go.
>
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Jim O'Callaghan
> wrote:
>
>> I'm aware this is off topic, but since there are so many people on the
list
>> with a broad skill set am hoping I can learn from their experiences /
>> heartbreak.  I am evaluating various WS stacks for interfacing with a
>> system
>> - currently I am using XFire as it requires very little configuration 
and
>> performs quite efficiently.  XFire appears to qualify every xml element
>> with
>> a namespace, bloating the payload considerably, or, if using the patch
from
>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/XFIRE-687 appears to have unreliable /
>> inconsistent namespace qualifiers.  Can anyone recommend a good WS 
stack
>> they have positive experience of?  My constraints are quite liberal -
java
>> 1.5 up, currently jetty as an AS, spring 3.0.2.RELEASE.  Is CXF any 
good?
>>  I
>> want to find something with good performance obviously, minimal config,
and
>> hopefully something that consistently defines package level namespaces 
at
>> an
>> envelope level and reuses them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Jim.
>>
>>
>

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Re: OT: Web Services

2010-08-30 Thread Kristian Marinkovic
hi,

i use a (JaxWS)HttpServletRequestFilter service to intercept WS calls to 
my application. it will only intercept calls that have the url pattern of 
the provided WS that can be configured. and i'm using metro too. we 
switched from cxf to metro because it was easier to work with jaxb-binding 
overrides...

g,
kris



Von:Peter Stavrinides 
An: Tapestry users 
Datum:  30.08.2010 14:59
Betreff:    Re: OT: Web Services



Hi Jim

I evaluated quite a few Java WS stacks and was between CXF and Metro, but 
in the end I chose metro, but to be honest there was very little to choose 
btw the two... so I would suggest those two as the leading Java WS stacks. 
Both support maven and are very complete in terms of how much of the web 
service set of standards they support. 

Metro implements JAXWS 2.1 and JAXB2.2, so if the marketing babble is to 
be trusted its 'meant' to be higher performing and more extensible, but I 
haven't tested that claim yet. In any event it has an impressive array of 
security features. It also ships with the standard glassfish installation, 
which means no server configuration is needed if you go that route, I 
installed it though with Tomcat, it was as easy as executing a script... 
not too hard at all. 

Depending how you wish to approach you applications, you can use 
annotations for the meta programming, and avoid a lot of the messy xml. I 
found it to be really clean and the closest to Microsofts .Net platform 
implementation which is IMHO a very good implementation of Web Services 
...at least more impressive than anything I have seen in the Java 
community, but I feel the gap is closing slowly.

To integrate with Tapestry I simply overrode Tapestry filter... I am not 
aware of any more elegant approach, although I made a few inquiries on 
this list in the past. 

Cheers,
Peter

- Original Message -
From: "Jim O'Callaghan" 
To: "Tapestry users" 
Sent: Monday, 30 August, 2010 10:52:44 GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, 
Bucharest, Istanbul
Subject: RE: OT: Web Services

Kalle, Daniel,

Thanks for the responses.  Good to know that there are positive 
experiences
with CXF.  It's probably the front-runner for me at the moment, but will
keep an ear open for any other feedback.  Looking at my original query I 
can
see that it looks like I am focusing on generating WS clients - I should
have said "providing interfaces for a system" rather than "interfacing 
with
a system".

Regards,
Jim.

-Original Message-
From: Kalle Korhonen [mailto:kalle.o.korho...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 30 August 2010 03:43
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: OT: Web Services

Second that. CXF is the successor to XFire and its solid.

Kalle


On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Honig 
wrote:
> I know of many projects using CXF without complaints.  I'd say that CXF 
is
> probably a good way to go.
>
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Jim O'Callaghan
> wrote:
>
>> I'm aware this is off topic, but since there are so many people on the
list
>> with a broad skill set am hoping I can learn from their experiences /
>> heartbreak.  I am evaluating various WS stacks for interfacing with a
>> system
>> - currently I am using XFire as it requires very little configuration 
and
>> performs quite efficiently.  XFire appears to qualify every xml element
>> with
>> a namespace, bloating the payload considerably, or, if using the patch
from
>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/XFIRE-687 appears to have unreliable /
>> inconsistent namespace qualifiers.  Can anyone recommend a good WS 
stack
>> they have positive experience of?  My constraints are quite liberal -
java
>> 1.5 up, currently jetty as an AS, spring 3.0.2.RELEASE.  Is CXF any 
good?
>>  I
>> want to find something with good performance obviously, minimal config,
and
>> hopefully something that consistently defines package level namespaces 
at
>> an
>> envelope level and reuses them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Jim.
>>
>>
>

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Re: OT: Web Services

2010-08-30 Thread Peter Stavrinides
Hi Jim

I evaluated quite a few Java WS stacks and was between CXF and Metro, but in 
the end I chose metro, but to be honest there was very little to choose btw the 
two... so I would suggest those two as the leading Java WS stacks. Both support 
maven and are very complete in terms of how much of the web service set of 
standards they support. 

Metro implements JAXWS 2.1 and JAXB2.2, so if the marketing babble is to be 
trusted its 'meant' to be higher performing and more extensible, but I haven't 
tested that claim yet. In any event it has an impressive array of security 
features. It also ships with the standard glassfish installation, which means 
no server configuration is needed if you go that route, I installed it though 
with Tomcat, it was as easy as executing a script... not too hard at all. 

Depending how you wish to approach you applications, you can use annotations 
for the meta programming, and avoid a lot of the messy xml. I found it to be 
really clean and the closest to Microsofts .Net platform implementation which 
is IMHO a very good implementation of Web Services ...at least more impressive 
than anything I have seen in the Java community, but I feel the gap is closing 
slowly.

To integrate with Tapestry I simply overrode Tapestry filter... I am not aware 
of any more elegant approach, although I made a few inquiries on this list in 
the past. 

Cheers,
Peter

- Original Message -
From: "Jim O'Callaghan" 
To: "Tapestry users" 
Sent: Monday, 30 August, 2010 10:52:44 GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, Bucharest, 
Istanbul
Subject: RE: OT: Web Services

Kalle, Daniel,

Thanks for the responses.  Good to know that there are positive experiences
with CXF.  It's probably the front-runner for me at the moment, but will
keep an ear open for any other feedback.  Looking at my original query I can
see that it looks like I am focusing on generating WS clients - I should
have said "providing interfaces for a system" rather than "interfacing with
a system".

Regards,
Jim.

-Original Message-
From: Kalle Korhonen [mailto:kalle.o.korho...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 30 August 2010 03:43
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: OT: Web Services

Second that. CXF is the successor to XFire and its solid.

Kalle


On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Honig 
wrote:
> I know of many projects using CXF without complaints.  I'd say that CXF is
> probably a good way to go.
>
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Jim O'Callaghan
> wrote:
>
>> I'm aware this is off topic, but since there are so many people on the
list
>> with a broad skill set am hoping I can learn from their experiences /
>> heartbreak.  I am evaluating various WS stacks for interfacing with a
>> system
>> - currently I am using XFire as it requires very little configuration and
>> performs quite efficiently.  XFire appears to qualify every xml element
>> with
>> a namespace, bloating the payload considerably, or, if using the patch
from
>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/XFIRE-687 appears to have unreliable /
>> inconsistent namespace qualifiers.  Can anyone recommend a good WS stack
>> they have positive experience of?  My constraints are quite liberal -
java
>> 1.5 up, currently jetty as an AS, spring 3.0.2.RELEASE.  Is CXF any good?
>>  I
>> want to find something with good performance obviously, minimal config,
and
>> hopefully something that consistently defines package level namespaces at
>> an
>> envelope level and reuses them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Jim.
>>
>>
>

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RE: OT: Web Services

2010-08-30 Thread Jim O'Callaghan
Thanks Davor - am leaning towards CXF.

Regards,
Jim.

-Original Message-
From: Davor Hrg [mailto:hrgda...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 30 August 2010 08:47
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: OT: Web Services

I used CXF to generate java code from XSD-s,
CXF is easily used with maven, but in the end most newer
WS engines use JAXB for data binding.
JAXB is not perfect, and it took me a whole week
to make rules for jaxb to get desired output.
To be fair, he problem was not jaxb here but a very bad XSD,
so I had to try all JAXB tricks and plugins to get it done well.

.. bla .. bla .. what I mean is: CXF is just fine.

I've only used old axis before and it was a pain...


On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Kalle Korhonen
wrote:

> Second that. CXF is the successor to XFire and its solid.
>
> Kalle
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Honig 
> wrote:
> > I know of many projects using CXF without complaints.  I'd say that CXF
> is
> > probably a good way to go.
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Jim O'Callaghan
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I'm aware this is off topic, but since there are so many people on the
> list
> >> with a broad skill set am hoping I can learn from their experiences /
> >> heartbreak.  I am evaluating various WS stacks for interfacing with a
> >> system
> >> - currently I am using XFire as it requires very little configuration
> and
> >> performs quite efficiently.  XFire appears to qualify every xml element
> >> with
> >> a namespace, bloating the payload considerably, or, if using the patch
> from
> >> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/XFIRE-687 appears to have unreliable /
> >> inconsistent namespace qualifiers.  Can anyone recommend a good WS
stack
> >> they have positive experience of?  My constraints are quite liberal -
> java
> >> 1.5 up, currently jetty as an AS, spring 3.0.2.RELEASE.  Is CXF any
> good?
> >>  I
> >> want to find something with good performance obviously, minimal config,
> and
> >> hopefully something that consistently defines package level namespaces
> at
> >> an
> >> envelope level and reuses them.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Many thanks,
> >>
> >> Jim.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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RE: OT: Web Services

2010-08-30 Thread Jim O'Callaghan
Kalle, Daniel,

Thanks for the responses.  Good to know that there are positive experiences
with CXF.  It's probably the front-runner for me at the moment, but will
keep an ear open for any other feedback.  Looking at my original query I can
see that it looks like I am focusing on generating WS clients - I should
have said "providing interfaces for a system" rather than "interfacing with
a system".

Regards,
Jim.

-Original Message-
From: Kalle Korhonen [mailto:kalle.o.korho...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 30 August 2010 03:43
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: OT: Web Services

Second that. CXF is the successor to XFire and its solid.

Kalle


On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Honig 
wrote:
> I know of many projects using CXF without complaints.  I'd say that CXF is
> probably a good way to go.
>
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Jim O'Callaghan
> wrote:
>
>> I'm aware this is off topic, but since there are so many people on the
list
>> with a broad skill set am hoping I can learn from their experiences /
>> heartbreak.  I am evaluating various WS stacks for interfacing with a
>> system
>> - currently I am using XFire as it requires very little configuration and
>> performs quite efficiently.  XFire appears to qualify every xml element
>> with
>> a namespace, bloating the payload considerably, or, if using the patch
from
>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/XFIRE-687 appears to have unreliable /
>> inconsistent namespace qualifiers.  Can anyone recommend a good WS stack
>> they have positive experience of?  My constraints are quite liberal -
java
>> 1.5 up, currently jetty as an AS, spring 3.0.2.RELEASE.  Is CXF any good?
>>  I
>> want to find something with good performance obviously, minimal config,
and
>> hopefully something that consistently defines package level namespaces at
>> an
>> envelope level and reuses them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Jim.
>>
>>
>

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Re: OT: Web Services

2010-08-30 Thread Davor Hrg
I used CXF to generate java code from XSD-s,
CXF is easily used with maven, but in the end most newer
WS engines use JAXB for data binding.
JAXB is not perfect, and it took me a whole week
to make rules for jaxb to get desired output.
To be fair, he problem was not jaxb here but a very bad XSD,
so I had to try all JAXB tricks and plugins to get it done well.

.. bla .. bla .. what I mean is: CXF is just fine.

I've only used old axis before and it was a pain...


On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Kalle Korhonen
wrote:

> Second that. CXF is the successor to XFire and its solid.
>
> Kalle
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Honig 
> wrote:
> > I know of many projects using CXF without complaints.  I'd say that CXF
> is
> > probably a good way to go.
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Jim O'Callaghan
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I'm aware this is off topic, but since there are so many people on the
> list
> >> with a broad skill set am hoping I can learn from their experiences /
> >> heartbreak.  I am evaluating various WS stacks for interfacing with a
> >> system
> >> - currently I am using XFire as it requires very little configuration
> and
> >> performs quite efficiently.  XFire appears to qualify every xml element
> >> with
> >> a namespace, bloating the payload considerably, or, if using the patch
> from
> >> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/XFIRE-687 appears to have unreliable /
> >> inconsistent namespace qualifiers.  Can anyone recommend a good WS stack
> >> they have positive experience of?  My constraints are quite liberal -
> java
> >> 1.5 up, currently jetty as an AS, spring 3.0.2.RELEASE.  Is CXF any
> good?
> >>  I
> >> want to find something with good performance obviously, minimal config,
> and
> >> hopefully something that consistently defines package level namespaces
> at
> >> an
> >> envelope level and reuses them.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Many thanks,
> >>
> >> Jim.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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RE: OT: Web Services

2010-08-30 Thread Jim O'Callaghan
Martin,

Thanks for all the details.  I hadn't considered the client generation at this 
stage, and was planning on just relying on the published wsdl for business 
consumers to use whatever package they wanted to generate a client from the 
public wsdl - perhaps this is not a realistic expectation.  None the less 
thanks for the pom excludes / targets.  They should prove useful if I go down 
that route. I'm leaning toward CXF at the moment as I think it won't be a huge 
step from XFire

Regards,
Jim.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Strand [mailto:do.not.eat.yellow.s...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 29 August 2010 19:07
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: OT: Web Services

On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 19:35:11 +0200, Jim O'Callaghan
 wrote:

> I'm aware this is off topic, but since there are so many people on the  
> list
> with a broad skill set am hoping I can learn from their experiences /
> heartbreak.  I am evaluating various WS stacks for interfacing with a  
> system
> - currently I am using XFire as it requires very little configuration and
> performs quite efficiently.  XFire appears to qualify every xml element  
> with
> a namespace, bloating the payload considerably, or, if using the patch  
> from
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/XFIRE-687 appears to have unreliable /
> inconsistent namespace qualifiers.  Can anyone recommend a good WS stack
> they have positive experience of?  My constraints are quite liberal -  
> java
> 1.5 up, currently jetty as an AS, spring 3.0.2.RELEASE.  Is CXF any  
> good?  I
> want to find something with good performance obviously, minimal config,  
> and
> hopefully something that consistently defines package level namespaces  
> at an
> envelope level and reuses them.
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Jim.

I've been using axis2 for several years to generate clients for a few 3rd  
party web services (I presume you're talking about client code)

Can't really say I would *recommend* it because it was a pain to get it  
working with Maven and I haven't even bothered to go through that again  
with 1.4.x or 1.5.x so I'm still using 1.3.
But, it's very simple once you set up the build - Maven will generate  
POJOs in target/generated-sources/... and when you invoke methods on those  
POJOs everything "just works".
The axis2 1.3 POMs are a mess though so there are lots of excludes here to  
get rid of unnecessary dependencies:









org.apache.axis2
axis2-wsdl2code-maven-plugin


some-service

wsdl2code



${basedir}/src/main/wsdl/some-service.wsdl
com.example.service

com.example.service=com.example.service
sync



some-other-service

wsdl2code



${basedir}/src/main/wsdl/some-other-service.wsdl
com.example.other

com.example.other=com.example.other
sync






...



org.apache.axis2
axis2-kernel
1.3


avalon-framework
avalon-framework


backport-util-concurrent
backport-util-concurrent


javax.mail
mail


javax.activation
activation


javax.servlet
servlet-api


commons-fileupload
commons-fileupload


junit
junit


org.apache.woden
woden


org.apache.geronimo.specs
geronimo-jms_1.1_spec


xml-apis
xml-apis


org.codehaus.woodstox
wstx-asl


annogen
annogen



Re: OT: Web Services

2010-08-29 Thread Kalle Korhonen
Second that. CXF is the successor to XFire and its solid.

Kalle


On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Honig  wrote:
> I know of many projects using CXF without complaints.  I'd say that CXF is
> probably a good way to go.
>
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Jim O'Callaghan
> wrote:
>
>> I'm aware this is off topic, but since there are so many people on the list
>> with a broad skill set am hoping I can learn from their experiences /
>> heartbreak.  I am evaluating various WS stacks for interfacing with a
>> system
>> - currently I am using XFire as it requires very little configuration and
>> performs quite efficiently.  XFire appears to qualify every xml element
>> with
>> a namespace, bloating the payload considerably, or, if using the patch from
>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/XFIRE-687 appears to have unreliable /
>> inconsistent namespace qualifiers.  Can anyone recommend a good WS stack
>> they have positive experience of?  My constraints are quite liberal - java
>> 1.5 up, currently jetty as an AS, spring 3.0.2.RELEASE.  Is CXF any good?
>>  I
>> want to find something with good performance obviously, minimal config, and
>> hopefully something that consistently defines package level namespaces at
>> an
>> envelope level and reuses them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Jim.
>>
>>
>

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Re: OT: Web Services

2010-08-29 Thread Daniel Honig
I know of many projects using CXF without complaints.  I'd say that CXF is
probably a good way to go.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Jim O'Callaghan
wrote:

> I'm aware this is off topic, but since there are so many people on the list
> with a broad skill set am hoping I can learn from their experiences /
> heartbreak.  I am evaluating various WS stacks for interfacing with a
> system
> - currently I am using XFire as it requires very little configuration and
> performs quite efficiently.  XFire appears to qualify every xml element
> with
> a namespace, bloating the payload considerably, or, if using the patch from
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/XFIRE-687 appears to have unreliable /
> inconsistent namespace qualifiers.  Can anyone recommend a good WS stack
> they have positive experience of?  My constraints are quite liberal - java
> 1.5 up, currently jetty as an AS, spring 3.0.2.RELEASE.  Is CXF any good?
>  I
> want to find something with good performance obviously, minimal config, and
> hopefully something that consistently defines package level namespaces at
> an
> envelope level and reuses them.
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Jim.
>
>


Re: OT: Web Services

2010-08-29 Thread Martin Strand

On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 19:35:11 +0200, Jim O'Callaghan
 wrote:

I'm aware this is off topic, but since there are so many people on the  
list

with a broad skill set am hoping I can learn from their experiences /
heartbreak.  I am evaluating various WS stacks for interfacing with a  
system

- currently I am using XFire as it requires very little configuration and
performs quite efficiently.  XFire appears to qualify every xml element  
with
a namespace, bloating the payload considerably, or, if using the patch  
from

http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/XFIRE-687 appears to have unreliable /
inconsistent namespace qualifiers.  Can anyone recommend a good WS stack
they have positive experience of?  My constraints are quite liberal -  
java
1.5 up, currently jetty as an AS, spring 3.0.2.RELEASE.  Is CXF any  
good?  I
want to find something with good performance obviously, minimal config,  
and
hopefully something that consistently defines package level namespaces  
at an

envelope level and reuses them.


Many thanks,

Jim.


I've been using axis2 for several years to generate clients for a few 3rd  
party web services (I presume you're talking about client code)


Can't really say I would *recommend* it because it was a pain to get it  
working with Maven and I haven't even bothered to go through that again  
with 1.4.x or 1.5.x so I'm still using 1.3.
But, it's very simple once you set up the build - Maven will generate  
POJOs in target/generated-sources/... and when you invoke methods on those  
POJOs everything "just works".
The axis2 1.3 POMs are a mess though so there are lots of excludes here to  
get rid of unnecessary dependencies:










org.apache.axis2
axis2-wsdl2code-maven-plugin


some-service

wsdl2code



${basedir}/src/main/wsdl/some-service.wsdl
com.example.service

com.example.service=com.example.service
sync



some-other-service

wsdl2code



${basedir}/src/main/wsdl/some-other-service.wsdl
com.example.other

com.example.other=com.example.other
sync






...



org.apache.axis2
axis2-kernel
1.3


avalon-framework
avalon-framework


backport-util-concurrent
backport-util-concurrent


javax.mail
mail


javax.activation
activation


javax.servlet
servlet-api


commons-fileupload
commons-fileupload


junit
junit


org.apache.woden
woden


org.apache.geronimo.specs
geronimo-jms_1.1_spec


xml-apis
xml-apis


org.codehaus.woodstox
wstx-asl


annogen
annogen


xalan
xalan


stax
stax-api


jaxen
jaxen


commons-io
commons-io


org.apache.httpcomponents
httpcore-niossl


org.apache.httpcomponents
httpcore


org.apache.httpcomponents
httpcore-nio


xerces
xercesImpl


org.apache.ws.commons.axiom
 

OT: Web Services

2010-08-29 Thread Jim O'Callaghan
I'm aware this is off topic, but since there are so many people on the list
with a broad skill set am hoping I can learn from their experiences /
heartbreak.  I am evaluating various WS stacks for interfacing with a system
- currently I am using XFire as it requires very little configuration and
performs quite efficiently.  XFire appears to qualify every xml element with
a namespace, bloating the payload considerably, or, if using the patch from
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/XFIRE-687 appears to have unreliable /
inconsistent namespace qualifiers.  Can anyone recommend a good WS stack
they have positive experience of?  My constraints are quite liberal - java
1.5 up, currently jetty as an AS, spring 3.0.2.RELEASE.  Is CXF any good?  I
want to find something with good performance obviously, minimal config, and
hopefully something that consistently defines package level namespaces at an
envelope level and reuses them.

 

Many thanks,

Jim.