subject:"\"10.5.4 is available\""

Re: 10.5.4 is available

2008-07-01 Thread Peter Hinchliffe



On 01/07/2008, at 12:45 PM, Chris Griffiths wrote:

Interesting. That was from "Software Update" area on my computer.  
Why would they have a cut down version when most people will update  
this way? Which means most people will have problems??


Regards Chris Griffiths



It is  generally-accepted troubleshooting principle these days that if  
your computer begins exhibiting problems after an incremental update  
from Software Update, that downloading and applying the larger "Combo"  
update form Apple's website can be an instant fix. For my own part, I  
have never had to do this. Every incremental update has always worked  
successfully first time.


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Re: 10.5.4 is available

2008-07-01 Thread Daniel Kerr

Thanks Shay, 

Yes, had the wrong wording in that as was typing out another email at the
same time. That will learn me :o)
Thanks for correcting it. I did in fact mean delta. :o)

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 1/7/08 9:15 PM, "Shay Telfer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi...
> 
> I'm thinking you mean 'delta' update. Delta being shorthand for
> 'change' (as in delta-v for change in velocity). The Delta update
> only includes the changes from the previous version. Having a smaller
> update means it takes less time and bandwidth for everyone to
> download it.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_%28letter%29
> 
> 'alpha' would probably mean untested, pre-release! :)
> 
> Have fun,
> Shay
> 
> Daniel Kerr wrote:
>>  Hi Chris
>> 
>>  They just use the smaller one on Software Update as it picks up the latest
>>  version as already there.
>>  Not everyone will have problems, so it's probably 90% of the time OK. But
>>  from most things I read and see, it's generally the alpha update that has
>>  caused the most problems.
>> 
>>  (Not worded very well, but hopefully that makes sense.) :o)
>> 
>>  Kind Regards
>>  Daniel
>> 
>> 
>>  On 1/7/08 12:45 PM, "Chris Griffiths"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>> 
>>>  Interesting. That was from "Software Update" area on my computer. Why
>>>  would they have a cut down version when most people will update this
>>>  way? Which means most people will have problems??
>>> 
>>>  Regards Chris Griffiths
>>> 
>>>  On 01/07/2008, at 12:36 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>>> 
  Hi Chris
 
  That would be the "alpha" update, which is the smaller update from
  10.5.3 to
  10.5.4.
  Generally (as a rule) you're better off with the larger update, as
  it's got
  everything mixed together.
  (And you find most people who have problems have done just the alpha
  update
  and not the combo update,...)
 
  Hope that helps.
 
  Kind Regards
  Daniel
> 
> 

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Re: 10.5.4 is available

2008-07-01 Thread Shay Telfer


Hi...

I'm thinking you mean 'delta' update. Delta being shorthand for 
'change' (as in delta-v for change in velocity). The Delta update 
only includes the changes from the previous version. Having a smaller 
update means it takes less time and bandwidth for everyone to 
download it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_%28letter%29

'alpha' would probably mean untested, pre-release! :)

Have fun,
Shay

Daniel Kerr wrote:

 Hi Chris

 They just use the smaller one on Software Update as it picks up the latest
 version as already there.
 Not everyone will have problems, so it's probably 90% of the time OK. But
 from most things I read and see, it's generally the alpha update that has
 caused the most problems.

 (Not worded very well, but hopefully that makes sense.) :o)

 Kind Regards
 Daniel


 On 1/7/08 12:45 PM, "Chris Griffiths"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:


 Interesting. That was from "Software Update" area on my computer. Why
 would they have a cut down version when most people will update this
 way? Which means most people will have problems??

 Regards Chris Griffiths

 On 01/07/2008, at 12:36 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:


 Hi Chris

 That would be the "alpha" update, which is the smaller update from
 10.5.3 to
 10.5.4.
 Generally (as a rule) you're better off with the larger update, as
 it's got
 everything mixed together.
 (And you find most people who have problems have done just the alpha
 update
 and not the combo update,...)

 Hope that helps.

 Kind Regards
 Daniel




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Re: 10.5.4 is available

2008-06-30 Thread Chris Griffiths


Thanks Daniel!

On 01/07/2008, at 1:02 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:


Hi Chris

They just use the smaller one on Software Update as it picks up the  
latest

version as already there.
Not everyone will have problems, so it's probably 90% of the time  
OK. But
from most things I read and see, it's generally the alpha update  
that has

caused the most problems.

(Not worded very well, but hopefully that makes sense.) :o)

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 1/7/08 12:45 PM, "Chris Griffiths" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Interesting. That was from "Software Update" area on my computer. Why
would they have a cut down version when most people will update this
way? Which means most people will have problems??

Regards Chris Griffiths

On 01/07/2008, at 12:36 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:


Hi Chris

That would be the "alpha" update, which is the smaller update from
10.5.3 to
10.5.4.
Generally (as a rule) you're better off with the larger update, as
it's got
everything mixed together.
(And you find most people who have problems have done just the alpha
update
and not the combo update,...)

Hope that helps.

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 1/7/08 12:24 PM, "Chris Griffiths" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


My download of 10.5.4 was only 50Mb or so.

Regards Chris Griffiths

On 01/07/2008, at 12:21 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:


Gawd - that would be right - 2 days after I FINALLY got round to
downloading
the 10.5.3 update!!


on 1/7/08 9:27 AM, Daniel Kerr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi All

10.5.4 is available via Software Update or for download:-
<http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/>

Weighs in at 561MB :o)

Enjoy!

Kind Regards
Daniel
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Re: 10.5.4 is available

2008-06-30 Thread Daniel Kerr

Hi Chris

They just use the smaller one on Software Update as it picks up the latest
version as already there.
Not everyone will have problems, so it's probably 90% of the time OK. But
from most things I read and see, it's generally the alpha update that has
caused the most problems.

(Not worded very well, but hopefully that makes sense.) :o)

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 1/7/08 12:45 PM, "Chris Griffiths" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Interesting. That was from "Software Update" area on my computer. Why
> would they have a cut down version when most people will update this
> way? Which means most people will have problems??
> 
> Regards Chris Griffiths
> 
> On 01/07/2008, at 12:36 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
> 
>> Hi Chris
>> 
>> That would be the "alpha" update, which is the smaller update from
>> 10.5.3 to
>> 10.5.4.
>> Generally (as a rule) you're better off with the larger update, as
>> it's got
>> everything mixed together.
>> (And you find most people who have problems have done just the alpha
>> update
>> and not the combo update,...)
>> 
>> Hope that helps.
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/7/08 12:24 PM, "Chris Griffiths" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> My download of 10.5.4 was only 50Mb or so.
>>> 
>>> Regards Chris Griffiths
>>> 
>>> On 01/07/2008, at 12:21 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Gawd - that would be right - 2 days after I FINALLY got round to
>>>> downloading
>>>> the 10.5.3 update!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> on 1/7/08 9:27 AM, Daniel Kerr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi All
>>>>> 
>>>>> 10.5.4 is available via Software Update or for download:-
>>>>> <http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Weighs in at 561MB :o)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind Regards
>>>>> Daniel
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Re: 10.5.4 is available

2008-06-30 Thread Chris Griffiths

Interesting. That was from "Software Update" area on my computer. Why  
would they have a cut down version when most people will update this  
way? Which means most people will have problems??


Regards Chris Griffiths

On 01/07/2008, at 12:36 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:


Hi Chris

That would be the "alpha" update, which is the smaller update from  
10.5.3 to

10.5.4.
Generally (as a rule) you're better off with the larger update, as  
it's got

everything mixed together.
(And you find most people who have problems have done just the alpha  
update

and not the combo update,...)

Hope that helps.

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 1/7/08 12:24 PM, "Chris Griffiths" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


My download of 10.5.4 was only 50Mb or so.

Regards Chris Griffiths

On 01/07/2008, at 12:21 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:


Gawd - that would be right - 2 days after I FINALLY got round to
downloading
the 10.5.3 update!!


on 1/7/08 9:27 AM, Daniel Kerr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi All

10.5.4 is available via Software Update or for download:-
<http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/>

Weighs in at 561MB :o)

Enjoy!

Kind Regards
Daniel
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Re: 10.5.4 is available

2008-06-30 Thread Daniel Kerr

Hi Chris

That would be the "alpha" update, which is the smaller update from 10.5.3 to
10.5.4.
Generally (as a rule) you're better off with the larger update, as it's got
everything mixed together.
(And you find most people who have problems have done just the alpha update
and not the combo update,...)

Hope that helps.

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 1/7/08 12:24 PM, "Chris Griffiths" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My download of 10.5.4 was only 50Mb or so.
> 
> Regards Chris Griffiths
> 
> On 01/07/2008, at 12:21 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
>> Gawd - that would be right - 2 days after I FINALLY got round to
>> downloading
>> the 10.5.3 update!!
>> 
>> 
>> on 1/7/08 9:27 AM, Daniel Kerr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All
>>> 
>>> 10.5.4 is available via Software Update or for download:-
>>> <http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/>
>>> 
>>> Weighs in at 561MB :o)
>>> 
>>> Enjoy!
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards
>>> Daniel
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Re: 10.5.4 is available

2008-06-30 Thread Chris Griffiths


My download of 10.5.4 was only 50Mb or so.

Regards Chris Griffiths

On 01/07/2008, at 12:21 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:

Gawd - that would be right - 2 days after I FINALLY got round to  
downloading

the 10.5.3 update!!


on 1/7/08 9:27 AM, Daniel Kerr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi All

10.5.4 is available via Software Update or for download:-
<http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/>

Weighs in at 561MB :o)

Enjoy!

Kind Regards
Daniel
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Re: 10.5.4 is available

2008-06-30 Thread Neil Houghton

Gawd - that would be right - 2 days after I FINALLY got round to downloading
the 10.5.3 update!!


on 1/7/08 9:27 AM, Daniel Kerr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi All
> 
> 10.5.4 is available via Software Update or for download:-
> <http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/>
> 
> Weighs in at 561MB :o)
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> Kind Regards
> Daniel
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10.5.4 is available

2008-06-30 Thread Daniel Kerr

Hi All

10.5.4 is available via Software Update or for download:-
<http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/>

Weighs in at 561MB :o)

Enjoy!

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