date:20111212

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:39 AM, sankarshan wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>  wrote:
> > Arjuna, while I don't really understand what is the ultimate aim, I
> > sincerely hope that this will result in Indic support across mobile
> > devices.
>
> Traditionally, on the desktop devices, Indic support has generally
> meant the ability to do the following:
>
> - display/render
> - print
> - input
>
> The underlying software architecture, which is fashionably called the
> "plumbing", has been present and keeps lock-step with the currently
> available and published standards and specifications.
>
> Input forms an interesting aspect because of the diverse nature of
> possibilities provided and requested - an example could be the variety
> of the keyboard layouts available. While a myriad variety in the
> keyboard layouts is possible on a standard physical keyboard
> (hardware), such variety is a bit difficult to attain on the mobile
> device hardware having an actual physical keyboard. Even in the case
> of mobile devices with an on-screen keyboard, the ability to
> standardize on a specific set of layouts, based on various factors
> (eg. computation of the highest used key combinations) would be of
> immense use.
>
> Thanks for the nice explanation.


> At this stage, the only aspect I'd request to be made clear is how
> does one participate in the effort. For example, reading through the
> current list of participants I don't see Google (as an example). It
> would be nicer to have distributions participate because they allow
> the quickest path to reference implementation of standards.
>
>
I have reached out to most people who have interest in this area. We will
be publicizing this initiative more vigorously, now that the project is
approved.

The proposed mode of standard development is open for participation by
every one. Though for the final balloting and to decide on any
alternatives, IEEE-SA membership will be needed, which again is being
offered at reduced rates for Indians.  The official Work Group will be
kicked off in January.  I request interested people to subscribe to
the  mailing
list of the 
initiative
.

Cheers
Arjuna Rao Chavala
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Call for participation in IEEE P1908.1 Virtual Keyboard Standard development for Indic languages

2011-12-12 Thread sankarshan

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
 wrote:
> Arjuna, while I don't really understand what is the ultimate aim, I
> sincerely hope that this will result in Indic support across mobile
> devices.

Traditionally, on the desktop devices, Indic support has generally
meant the ability to do the following:

- display/render
- print
- input

The underlying software architecture, which is fashionably called the
"plumbing", has been present and keeps lock-step with the currently
available and published standards and specifications.

Input forms an interesting aspect because of the diverse nature of
possibilities provided and requested - an example could be the variety
of the keyboard layouts available. While a myriad variety in the
keyboard layouts is possible on a standard physical keyboard
(hardware), such variety is a bit difficult to attain on the mobile
device hardware having an actual physical keyboard. Even in the case
of mobile devices with an on-screen keyboard, the ability to
standardize on a specific set of layouts, based on various factors
(eg. computation of the highest used key combinations) would be of
immense use.

At this stage, the only aspect I'd request to be made clear is how
does one participate in the effort. For example, reading through the
current list of participants I don't see Google (as an example). It
would be nicer to have distributions participate because they allow
the quickest path to reference implementation of standards.

-- 
sankarshan mukhopadhyay

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Dr. Sengai Podhuvan 's Appeal to Fund raising banners

2011-12-12 Thread CherianTinu Abraham

Not 861 edits,  Dr. Sengai Podhuvan started 861+ articles in Ta.wiki. (
Given that he started as an IP user, the actual count is much more, as Bala
said).

A similar contributor I can think of is G. Balachandran ( User:BabuG)  from
ml.wiki, whom I got featured in this Telegraph article.
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110911/jsp/7days/story_14492284.jsp

"Seventy-three-year old G. Balachandran from Paravur, Kerala, has a
different story to tell. Paralysed for nearly two decades, this retired
junior commissioned officer of the Indian Army got a new lease of life,
thanks to Wikipedia. When his son presented him with a laptop, Balachandran
started contributing to Wikipedia in Malayalam. “Wikipedia not only helped
me rediscover myself, but also gave me the strength to fight my condition,”
says Balachandran, who has contributed nearly 100 articles to the Malayalam
Wikipedia since 2008 and has more than 2,000 edits to his credit. "

Having heard of him for some time, I was fortunate & privileged  to meet
another Wikimedian stalwart recently. He makes & sells food snacks during
the day and contributes to an Indian language Wiktionary on a donated
computer during his "free time".  He is one of the biggest contributors to
that project.Some of you might know him, but I am not sharing his name on
this list  for obvious reasons.

When I meet people like them, I personally feel dwarfed standing before
them. I can never match their passion and commitment for the movement. I
feel I have done/doing nothing when i compare myself to these people. These
are the kind of people that makes me continue to stay in the movement.

Regards
Tinu Cherian

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tinu, for a man his age, 861 Edits is marvellous. Let up try to find
> more people like him.
>
> On 12/12/2011, Sudhanwa Jogalekar  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > During WCI, some of the Pune Wikipedians and Dr. Sengai Podhuvan were
> > staying in the same hotel.
> >
> > We had a nice discussion with him while going to the conference.
> > Great energy and huge experience he has!!.
> > We are really privileged to have met him and interact with him.
> >
> > Nice to see him in the fund-raiser appeal.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > -Sudhanwa
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
> >  wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Just in case, you had missed Dr. Sengai Podhuvan's Appeal to Fund
> raising
> >> this year.
> >>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011#Dr._Sengai_Podhuvan_Appeal_December_10.2C_2011
> >>
> >> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/L11_1209_DS/en/US
> >>
> >> ( This appeal is shown only in US so far and may come to India users
> very
> >> soon).
> >>
> >> I was so privileged to have met him personally at
> the Chennai Wikimeetup2
> >> way back in Nov 2010.
> >>
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai2
> >>
> >> Many others would have met him at Wikiconference Mumbai and he was also
> >> awarded "Special mentions from Jury" for NWR 2011
> >>
> >> Sengai Podhuvan contributes primarily to Tamil Wiki, with more than 9700
> >> edits ( 97% edits to Article main-space itself).
> >>
> http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pcount/index.php?name=Sengai+Podhuvan&lang=ta&wiki=wikipedia
> >>
> >> I was also told he has started over 800+ articles in ta.wiki ( somebody
> >> correct me if i am wrong).
> >>  ( http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pages/ isn't working for me)
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Tinu Cherian
> >>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Call for participation in IEEE P1908.1 Virtual Keyboard Standard development for Indic languages

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Arjuna, while I don't really understand what is the ultimate aim, I
> sincerely hope that this will result in Indic support across mobile
> devices.
>

Indic support from rendering and input method point of view is currently
available on some mobile devices. Some virtual keyboards are using phonetic
approach which use English keyboard. Some others are following an adhoc
modification to INSCRIPT. There are some vendors with  patented solutions
for 12 key interface. But there is no standard of virtual keyboard  for
touch interface, which makes it easy even for a class 1 student of indic
language to type his name for example. This initiative is aimed at bridging
that gap.  Once the standard is approved,  indic support in a standardized
way should be available on most smart phones and tablets. Since it will be
packaged as mobile app, it can be deployed on even older version of smart
phones with touch interface.

Hope this helps.

Cheers
Arjun


>
> On 12/12/2011, Ashwin Baindur  wrote:
> > I'm a bit confused Arjuna, is the study over or yet to begin?
> >
> > Warm regards,
> >
> > Ashwin Baindur
> > --
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Friends,
> >>
> >> Indic languages have an opportunity to gain their rightful place in the
> >> computing and communications world on par with English or other
> languages,
> >> with the availability of smart phones and tablet computers with touch
> user
> >> interface  at lower price points.
> >>
> >> I have been involved in leading a study group on this topic for the last
> >> one year to develop  the project proposal for virtual  keyboard
> standard.
> >> I
> >> am glad to report that the project for development of standard has been
> >> approved by IEEE-SA  on Dec 8, 2011.
> >>
> >> More details on this initiative are available at
> >> https://mentor.ieee.org/stds-india/bp/Indic_Virtual_Keyboards
> >>
> >> I seek your support and participation in  this initiative.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Arjuna Rao Chavala
> >> WG Chair, P1908.1 Virtual keyboard standard for Indic languages
> >> Twitter id: @arjunaraoc 
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Towards improving infrastructure or resource people on Wikipedia

2011-12-12 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

I would like to stress again that what we need first is to interconnect
ourselves.

We, at various Indic Wikipedias, are still working very much on our own
home islands!

Images, references, PR personnel, media - Among various Indic Wikipedias,
we have a lot that can be shared together.

Beyond the singular difference of native language, our needs, ends and
means are mostly same.

[Not to mention that (in.en.wiki*)  is automatically a subset of (in.wiki*)]

So,

let us think aloud how to interconnect ourselves more systematically and
collectively.

Though many may have reservations in using social networking as a tool, we
at Malayalam Wikipedia have been using Facebook, Blogs, Google Buzz/Plus/
Docs/Maps/Calendar etc. somewhat effectively to improve and accelerate
content and quality of ml.wiki*.

(As an example, see this spreadsheet  (Geodesic Coords for
ml.wikipedia),
It has been just created today as an upcoming collaboration tool for
GeoTagging our articles in a massive way. We envisage that the same data
can be later shared with other Wikipedias in some automated way. If only we
had a larger national network, we could achieve this much faster and
wider!!)

*What if we setup some similar acts for Inter-Indic Wiki friendship circles
(Where every in.wiki user can join and share their problems, solutions and
ideas)?*


Viswam 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Viswaprabha

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 23:20, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Interestingly this was what you and I spoke about over the phone
> today. I think this should be of the highest priority. If the chapter
> and foundation are unable to focus on this it becomes the
> responsibility of the community aka us, to take forward such an
> initiative. We shall talk more on this soon Pradeep. What you have
> said could very well accelerate the growth of the movement in India,
> organically.
>
> On 12/12/11, Pradeep Mohandas  wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > We must encourage having resouce persons who can help us with various
> > things and who are networked. We need multiple people who are capable of
> > building the community using these resources.
> >
> > Specifically, we need more people who can communicate with the media,
> with
> > social media (I know the sterling job that Tinu does in this area, but
> more
> > hands, do not hurt), with setting up internet infrastructure, having more
> > coders, having more people who are aware of the legal aspects, having
> more
> > people who are aware of copyright, who are aware of workings in the
> > Government and the Police. Such people may currently exist in each city
> > through personal networks currently, but it might help for a growing
> > community like Wikipedia's to have them in multiple places.
> >
> > I am not sure if this makes sense, but in short, what I mean is that we
> > must now, as a community work towards infrastructure building that will
> > support the community.
> >
> > warm regards,
> > Pradeep Mohandas
> >
> > --
> > Pradeep Mohandas
> > How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9
> >
>
>
> --
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Towards improving infrastructure or resource people on Wikipedia

Interestingly this was what you and I spoke about over the phone
today. I think this should be of the highest priority. If the chapter
and foundation are unable to focus on this it becomes the
responsibility of the community aka us, to take forward such an
initiative. We shall talk more on this soon Pradeep. What you have
said could very well accelerate the growth of the movement in India,
organically.

On 12/12/11, Pradeep Mohandas  wrote:
> hi,
>
> We must encourage having resouce persons who can help us with various
> things and who are networked. We need multiple people who are capable of
> building the community using these resources.
>
> Specifically, we need more people who can communicate with the media, with
> social media (I know the sterling job that Tinu does in this area, but more
> hands, do not hurt), with setting up internet infrastructure, having more
> coders, having more people who are aware of the legal aspects, having more
> people who are aware of copyright, who are aware of workings in the
> Government and the Police. Such people may currently exist in each city
> through personal networks currently, but it might help for a growing
> community like Wikipedia's to have them in multiple places.
>
> I am not sure if this makes sense, but in short, what I mean is that we
> must now, as a community work towards infrastructure building that will
> support the community.
>
> warm regards,
> Pradeep Mohandas
>
> --
> Pradeep Mohandas
> How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9
>


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Towards improving infrastructure or resource people on Wikipedia

2011-12-12 Thread Ashwin Baindur

Pradeep has come up with a wonderful idea. We do need networking and
expertise in every field possible.

I see this need not just in the activities he mentions but for the very
basic task of editing too. Every one has faced the problems while editing
on Indian topics. We lack images - try finding out of copyright images of
India's contemporary painters and their works? Reliable sources are
difficult to find. How many of us have access across a pay-wall or into a
database? How many of us can find someone to make a diagram, a recording, a
spoken version?

On many occasions these skills/items/opportunities may be available, not in
our city but elsewhere. We need networking and effort to get resources
which we can use.

So I feel that Pradeep's ideas can best be brought into fruition by pooling
our knowledge, skills, resources, effort together. We need a kind of
Cooperation Central for Indian Wikipedians where we can ask for help and
get it. We need to list our expertise in the field of knowledge - if I'm an
expert on the military, there must be a way for you to find me and ask for
help and advice on military matters . If I hold a whole collection of
books, I do by the way - there must be some way for you to know what I hold
so that you can ask me about it.  If I have a useful skill, eg in making
diagrams, ability to provide references or to guide anyone in GAN, FAR or
DYK, you must be able to find me and ask.

The challenge is how to make all this a reality. For that we will surely
need to overcome the latent inertia which characterises us Indians in so
many ways. And we can only do that by being more bold, more helpful, more
cooperative, one edit at a time.

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
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On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Pradeep Mohandas <
pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> hi,
>
> We must encourage having resouce persons who can help us with various
> things and who are networked. We need multiple people who are capable of
> building the community using these resources.
>
> Specifically, we need more people who can communicate with the media, with
> social media (I know the sterling job that Tinu does in this area, but more
> hands, do not hurt), with setting up internet infrastructure, having more
> coders, having more people who are aware of the legal aspects, having more
> people who are aware of copyright, who are aware of workings in the
> Government and the Police. Such people may currently exist in each city
> through personal networks currently, but it might help for a growing
> community like Wikipedia's to have them in multiple places.
>
> I am not sure if this makes sense, but in short, what I mean is that we
> must now, as a community work towards infrastructure building that will
> support the community.
>
> warm regards,
> Pradeep Mohandas
>
> --
> Pradeep Mohandas
> How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9
>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Call for participation in IEEE P1908.1 Virtual Keyboard Standard development for Indic languages

Arjuna, while I don't really understand what is the ultimate aim, I
sincerely hope that this will result in Indic support across mobile
devices.

On 12/12/2011, Ashwin Baindur  wrote:
> I'm a bit confused Arjuna, is the study over or yet to begin?
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Ashwin Baindur
> --
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>> Indic languages have an opportunity to gain their rightful place in the
>> computing and communications world on par with English or other languages,
>> with the availability of smart phones and tablet computers with touch user
>> interface  at lower price points.
>>
>> I have been involved in leading a study group on this topic for the last
>> one year to develop  the project proposal for virtual  keyboard standard.
>> I
>> am glad to report that the project for development of standard has been
>> approved by IEEE-SA  on Dec 8, 2011.
>>
>> More details on this initiative are available at
>> https://mentor.ieee.org/stds-india/bp/Indic_Virtual_Keyboards
>>
>> I seek your support and participation in  this initiative.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Arjuna Rao Chavala
>> WG Chair, P1908.1 Virtual keyboard standard for Indic languages
>> Twitter id: @arjunaraoc 
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Dr. Sengai Podhuvan 's Appeal to Fund raising banners

Tinu, for a man his age, 861 Edits is marvellous. Let up try to find
more people like him.

On 12/12/2011, Sudhanwa Jogalekar  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> During WCI, some of the Pune Wikipedians and Dr. Sengai Podhuvan were
> staying in the same hotel.
>
> We had a nice discussion with him while going to the conference.
> Great energy and huge experience he has!!.
> We are really privileged to have met him and interact with him.
>
> Nice to see him in the fund-raiser appeal.
>
> Best regards,
> -Sudhanwa
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
>  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just in case, you had missed Dr. Sengai Podhuvan's Appeal to Fund raising
>> this year.
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011#Dr._Sengai_Podhuvan_Appeal_December_10.2C_2011
>>
>> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/L11_1209_DS/en/US
>>
>> ( This appeal is shown only in US so far and may come to India users very
>> soon).
>>
>> I was so privileged to have met him personally at the Chennai Wikimeetup2
>> way back in Nov 2010.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai2
>>
>> Many others would have met him at Wikiconference Mumbai and he was also
>> awarded "Special mentions from Jury" for NWR 2011
>>
>> Sengai Podhuvan contributes primarily to Tamil Wiki, with more than 9700
>> edits ( 97% edits to Article main-space itself).
>> http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pcount/index.php?name=Sengai+Podhuvan&lang=ta&wiki=wikipedia
>>
>> I was also told he has started over 800+ articles in ta.wiki ( somebody
>> correct me if i am wrong).
>>  ( http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pages/ isn't working for me)
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Tinu Cherian
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Sharing insights and experiences from Indian language wiki communities - Kannada

2011-12-12 Thread Shiju Alex

>
>  Hindi, sadly is scaring them away.


Srikanth, do you have any specific example/experience that made you to say
so?

 Shiju

On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Agree with Logic. Each community differs in every way. Needs, usage,
> exposure and more. Each community, while running on a common backend,
> must have a different frontend. Tamil is doing its best from what I've
> seen to be different and get new editors. Hindi, sadly is scaring them
> away. Kannada must ensure new editor retention.
>
> On 11/12/2011, Srikanth Lakshmanan  wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 04:18, Jessie Wild  wrote:
> >
> >> I just got off the phone with a wonderful woman who works for EDC India
> >> who was asking me how she could participate in Kannada Wikipedia
> editing.
> >> Obviously I can just direct her to the homepage of kn-wiki, but is there
> >> somewhere she could go to get some coaching to begin? She's never edited
> >> before, but is fluent in English too and wants to increase the
> educational
> >> content.
> >>
> >
> > The answer is above. I think communities must use front page much more
> > effectively. There are many communities which don't update front
> > page regularly, still keep it similar to English Wikipedia, wasting(IMO)
> > some space. Instead, they could redesign front page to allocate
> significant
> > space for attracting newbies.
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> > Srikanth.L
> >
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> Regards,
> Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
> Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Sharing insights and experiences from Indian language wiki communities - Gujarati

2011-12-12 Thread Shiju Alex

To address this issue, I will reword the subject line a bit for the
remaining languages.

Shiju



On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi  wrote:

> A small suggestion:
>
> if you can keep the subject line as:
> *
> Hindi: Sharing insights...*
> *
> *
> format then from the first word gives idea about the language.
>
> Best
> Subha
>
> On 10 December 2011 21:57, Theo10011  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
>> parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ermm, Theo, my Google Mail shows them up as separate. Infact any mail
>>> service or client would. The title thread itself is different. I don't
>>> want to derail the topic. Nice work Shiju, but why did you speak only
>>> to one person? Lack of participants? Noone willing to talk to you?
>>
>>
>> Actually no. I didn't say they don't show up as different, I said the
>> subject-line or "title" in your description is nearly identical,
>> discussions are hard to separate and recognize, especially when there are
>> 12 emails with nearly identical title. The actual mention of the language
>> is not in the first 70 characters, so they end up looking identical.
>>
>> Have a look at the mail archive for this month and the last sorted by
>> author and see the mails from Shiju. They all start as "Sharing insights
>> and experiences from Indian language wiki communities"  Followed by the
>> language name, which is towards then end and not displayed by gmail and
>> most client. The first mention of the language is after 70 character
>> spaces, which is usually too long for most clients including gmail to
>> render in the inbox itself.
>>
>> Here's November
>>
>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-November/author.html#start
>>
>> Here's December.
>>
>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-December/author.html#start
>>
>> Regards
>> Theo
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>
>
> --
> *
>
>ସୁ ଭ
>
> *
>
> *S u b h a *
>
>  *ଓଡ଼ିଆଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ*
>
> *O d i a W i k i M a i l i n g l i s 
> t*
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Towards improving infrastructure or resource people on Wikipedia

hi,

We must encourage having resouce persons who can help us with various
things and who are networked. We need multiple people who are capable of
building the community using these resources.

Specifically, we need more people who can communicate with the media, with
social media (I know the sterling job that Tinu does in this area, but more
hands, do not hurt), with setting up internet infrastructure, having more
coders, having more people who are aware of the legal aspects, having more
people who are aware of copyright, who are aware of workings in the
Government and the Police. Such people may currently exist in each city
through personal networks currently, but it might help for a growing
community like Wikipedia's to have them in multiple places.

I am not sure if this makes sense, but in short, what I mean is that we
must now, as a community work towards infrastructure building that will
support the community.

warm regards,
Pradeep Mohandas

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] 1st Wiki Academy, Jaya Engineering College, Bangalore

Subhashish,


On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Wikimedia India chapter has organized a Wiki Academy in Jaya Engineering
> College in Chennai on 11 December 2011. The detailed summary below:
> --cut--
>

Thanks for a detailed summary and also more importantly on the potential
for future opportunities with the organisation.

>
>
>- *Foundation of a Wiki-Club*:
>
> Prof. G. Prabhakaran, Computer Science dept brought a proposal for a
> Wiki-Club by engaging the Jaya FOSS volunteers which could organize
> recurrent Wiki events in the campus. The FOSS club is already interacting
> with many Open source academicians, speakers and researchers from major
> institutes like IIT, Madras. FOSS Activities in India is taking a
> progressive shape and it could be used for more collaborative Wiki
> initiatives to bring up more editors.
>
> The link below could be relevant
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedian_Student_Organizations

Cheers
Arjuna Rao Chavala
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikita-l] Salem Wiki Workshop Report

2011-12-12 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 17:55, Surya Prakash wrote:

> A Wiki workshop in Salem was conducted on December 11, 2011 by the Tamil
> Wiki community
>

Kudos to all behind this. I would call this mini conference, Sodabottle
travelled from land of Cheras, Essar from land of Pandyas for this
meetup/. Also more awareness/outreach/meetups is required in
tier-2 cities / towns and community(especially Indic will gain a lot from
it).

Please scroll down, mail isnt complete.

1) Workshop page and talk page in ta wiki:
>  Event page<
> http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE:%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D_11,_2011_%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B4%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%88
> >
>  Talk Page<
> http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%81:%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D_11,_2011_%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B4%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%88
> >

This is why one needs ShortURL. Will this bug bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1450 ever
get some attention that its due? Note:- Tamil Wiki generally uses
tawp.inshortened URLs, there is an open bug in it, I thought we will
wait for the
official extension rather than spending time to fix it. I think its safe to
assume that ShortURL will not see end of tunnel atleast for few more
months, So I would look around fixing it. There seems no point in waiting
for deployment. I am disappointed.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikita-l] Salem Wiki Workshop Report

2011-12-12 Thread Hisham

On Dec 12, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Surya Prakash wrote:

> A Wiki workshop in Salem was conducted on December 11, 2011 by the Tamil
> Wiki community.

Thanks for sharing this, Surya.  Thank you to you and to ParvathiSri, 
Thagavaluzhavan, Sodabottle, Essar for your time and effort.  It sounds like a 
wonderful session!  

I especially like the fact that you explained the basic ideas of Wikipedia 
first and then also had hands-on editing session.  Sodabottle's part about why 
it's important to improve / increase local language content is an important 
point and it's great to see it was covered. Often times, something like this - 
even though it sounds very simple - is a powerful and critical part of the 
message.  They way I often say it is that even if one might be conversant in 
English, more times than not, one counts and thinks and dreams in one's mother 
tongue.  ...and the conversation at home over dinner is largely in the 
respective mother tongues.  ...therefore the critical importance of Indic 
content.

It'll be wonderful if folks who attended are kept in touch with so that they 
could get some hand holding as they start their journeys as newbies.

Warmest Regards,

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Call for participation in IEEE P1908.1 Virtual Keyboard Standard development for Indic languages

Hi,

Response in line..

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Gerard Meijssen
wrote:

> Hoi,
> The Wikimedia Localisation team has been very much active in this field
> and we have implemented the inscript one standard as well as other existing
> keyboard methods. We have met with CDAC and Red Hat about our current
> Narayam implementations and our and their future plans. Our notion is that
>  using standard compliant and freely licensed technology is the way forward.
>
> Thanks for the update.

> On our road map there are the unknowns of how to support smart phones,
> tablet computers, not only for the official languages of India but for all
> of them including scripts ..
>
> We are very happy to participate in any project that has as its goal to
> create standardised input methods for any kind of device. We can provide an
> environment for testing; we can support experimental keyboard methods side
> by side at translatewiki.net. When things become stable, we are quite
> happy to expose the world to new standards on the WMF wikis.
>
> Is this the kind of support that would help you ?
>

Certainly! It will be a great opportunity to  come up with virtual keyboard
as required for each language with  participation of the relevant users.
Active indic language wikipedians can play a key role in this initiative.

The proposed mode of standard development is open for participation by
every one. Though for the final balloting and to decide on any
alternatives, IEEE-SA membership will be needed, which again is being
offered at reduced rates for Indians.  The official Work Group will be
kick off in January.  I request interested people to subscribe to the  mailing
list of the 
initiative
.

Cheers
Arjuna Rao Chavala
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Indian Language wikipedia Statistics – 2011 October

2011-12-12 Thread Shiju Alex

Dear All,

I am sharing the statistical report of Indian language wiki projects for
the month of 2011 October.  It is available here.
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/12/indian-language-wikipedia-statistics-october-2011/


Some interesting facts that I discovered this month are:

   - Nearly *4.3 crore* readers are there for all Indic language
   wikipedias!  This number is huge and increased by nearly 1/3 in just 1
   month! So Indic wikis has huge reader base.
   - Marathi wiki community has increased its active editor base by nearly
   33% in just 1 month.
   - Sanskrit wikipedia has been amongst the shining stars of *all* Indic
   language wikipedias in terms of adding new articles (12 new articles every
   day in October) and edits per article (nearly 18 edits across all articles,
   old and new.)

You can find more interesting facts from the report at
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/12/indian-language-wikipedia-statistics-october-2011/


Shiju
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Call for participation in IEEE P1908.1 Virtual Keyboard Standard development for Indic languages

2011-12-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen

Hoi,
The Wikimedia Localisation team has been very much active in this field and
we have implemented the inscript one standard as well as other existing
keyboard methods. We have met with CDAC and Red Hat about our current
Narayam implementations and our and their future plans. Our notion is that
 using standard compliant and freely licensed technology is the way forward.

On our road map there are the unknowns of how to support smart phones,
tablet computers, not only for the official languages of India but for all
of them including scripts ..

We are very happy to participate in any project that has as its goal to
create standardised input methods for any kind of device. We can provide an
environment for testing; we can support experimental keyboard methods side
by side at translatewiki.net. When things become stable, we are quite happy
to expose the world to new standards on the WMF wikis.

Is this the kind of support that would help you ?
Thanks,
  Gerard

On 12 December 2011 14:34, Arjuna Rao Chavala  wrote:

> Hi Friends,
>
> Indic languages have an opportunity to gain their rightful place in the
> computing and communications world on par with English or other languages,
> with the availability of smart phones and tablet computers with touch user
> interface  at lower price points.
>
> I have been involved in leading a study group on this topic for the last
> one year to develop  the project proposal for virtual  keyboard standard. I
> am glad to report that the project for development of standard has been
> approved by IEEE-SA  on Dec 8, 2011.
>
> More details on this initiative are available at
> https://mentor.ieee.org/stds-india/bp/Indic_Virtual_Keyboards
>
> I seek your support and participation in  this initiative.
>
> Cheers
> Arjuna Rao Chavala
> WG Chair, P1908.1 Virtual keyboard standard for Indic languages
> Twitter id: @arjunaraoc 
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Call for participation in IEEE P1908.1 Virtual Keyboard Standard development for Indic languages

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Sent via mobile
On Dec 12, 2011 7:18 PM, "Ashwin Baindur"  wrote:
>
> I'm a bit confused Arjuna, is the study over or yet to begin?
>
There has been some background work about the proposal and sharing of
current status. The real work is about to begin.

Cheers
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Call for participation in IEEE P1908.1 Virtual Keyboard Standard development for Indic languages

2011-12-12 Thread Ashwin Baindur

I'm a bit confused Arjuna, is the study over or yet to begin?

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
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On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala wrote:

> Hi Friends,
>
> Indic languages have an opportunity to gain their rightful place in the
> computing and communications world on par with English or other languages,
> with the availability of smart phones and tablet computers with touch user
> interface  at lower price points.
>
> I have been involved in leading a study group on this topic for the last
> one year to develop  the project proposal for virtual  keyboard standard. I
> am glad to report that the project for development of standard has been
> approved by IEEE-SA  on Dec 8, 2011.
>
> More details on this initiative are available at
> https://mentor.ieee.org/stds-india/bp/Indic_Virtual_Keyboards
>
> I seek your support and participation in  this initiative.
>
> Cheers
> Arjuna Rao Chavala
> WG Chair, P1908.1 Virtual keyboard standard for Indic languages
> Twitter id: @arjunaraoc 
>
>
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Call for participation in IEEE P1908.1 Virtual Keyboard Standard development for Indic languages

Hi Friends,

Indic languages have an opportunity to gain their rightful place in the
computing and communications world on par with English or other languages,
with the availability of smart phones and tablet computers with touch user
interface  at lower price points.

I have been involved in leading a study group on this topic for the last
one year to develop  the project proposal for virtual  keyboard standard. I
am glad to report that the project for development of standard has been
approved by IEEE-SA  on Dec 8, 2011.

More details on this initiative are available at
https://mentor.ieee.org/stds-india/bp/Indic_Virtual_Keyboards

I seek your support and participation in  this initiative.

Cheers
Arjuna Rao Chavala
WG Chair, P1908.1 Virtual keyboard standard for Indic languages
Twitter id: @arjunaraoc 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam

Hey Noopur, lovely mail. This should be made part of the FAQ on the
Wiki India Chapter website. I read about a massive GLAM collaboration
in the UK with a Museum for the Hoxne Hoard, which is a Featured
Article in English. The efforts to get info, photos etc, are
documented in the Foundation Report of 2009 2010. I believe this is
what we need to emulate in India simply because much of our culture
and heritage is present and rotting in several museums and we can save
it on Wiki.

On 12/12/2011, Noopur  wrote:
> Hey Pradeep and the rest of you,
>
> What I think was my biggest take away from the GLAMcamp is: GLAM and
> Outreach cannot be separated. Similar holds for expanding the India
> Wikipedia community. While doing Wikiacademy or workshops or clubs or
> meet-ups, the idea is to spread the word as much as encourage a culture of
> good editing. That is what these guys back at the camp take very seriously,
> every occasional meetup is a wonderful outreach opportunity! Let's talk
> more about that :)
> Warmly
> Noopur
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Pradeep Mohandas <
> pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> Thank you for your update, Noopur. Coming back with more good and
>> concrete is great and the best way for the community to reflect.
>>
>> Personally, I think there are people right now who are focussed on
>> building a new breed of editors through WikiAcademies and
>> Wiki-Workshops. This seems to be happening in tech schools and not in
>> art schools. Very few of the tech school junta might be interested in
>> the arts or history. But, they can teach the arts school junta to edit
>> and help them out. I think it is this cross-disciplinary editing that
>> we need to foster more in the Indian community.
>> There are people on this mailing list who are interested in
>> participating in GLAM. I hope they respond to this thread and
>> participate in the conversation.
>>
>> warm regards,
>> Pradeep
>>
>> On 12/12/2011, Noopur  wrote:
>> > Dear all,
>> > These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form
>> > of
>> > some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So,
>> most
>> > of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as
>> > collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I am
>> > grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping
>> > encourage GLAM participation in India.
>> > This is the link to the programs:
>> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in each
>> > session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion!
>> >
>> >
>> > Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important?
>> >
>> > Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has
>> pending
>> > requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file sharing.
>> > Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata sharing,
>> > open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that institutions
>> go
>> > by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or commons
>> > is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar
>> > archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach.
>> >
>> >
>> > Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries:
>> >
>> >-
>> >
>> >Why Wikipedia, why not our own website?
>> >
>> > Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is the
>> > 5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared
>> > to your
>> > own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not hard
>> > either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive.
>> >
>> >-
>> >
>> >This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate?
>> >
>> > Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations (PPT),
>> > simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple numbers,
>> > percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa.
>> > Use
>> > things like color coding, emphasize on the importance and seriousness of
>> > ‘free knowledge’, larger things that Wikipedia is also in service of.
>> This
>> > helps people connect at different levels. Most importantly, break your
>> > hierarchies and trash your rule books (or make simpler ones that use
>> > less
>> > jargon). If you are concerned about quality editing there are two
>> solutions
>> > (get content specific editathons and organize a Wiki academy EVERY
>> > week).
>> >
>> >
>> > What happens once partnership is over? How to sustain?
>> >
>> > This is why a GLAM coordinator is not simply a GLAM person. S/he is also
>> > someone who does massive outreach: Wikipedia takes your city; Wiki loves
>> > monuments, wikiacademies, PR and network building with local, regional
>> and
>> > national resource persons outside the community. While in capacity as a
>> > fellow, the idea is also to do value addition, train employees (at least
>> > train in minor edits, article making, image

[Wikimediaindia-l] Salem Wiki Workshop Report

2011-12-12 Thread Surya Prakash

A Wiki workshop in Salem was conducted on December 11, 2011 by the Tamil
Wiki community. Paavadi Girls higher secondary school had graciously given
their computer lab for this workshop. This was made possible by the efforts
of an excellent newcomer to Tamil wiki projects - ParvathiSri, who is a
school teacher in Salem.

The workshop started sharply at 10 AM.  Attendees included school teachers,
students, college professors and Tamil enthusiasts. There were about 15
attendees in Total. Wikimedians ParvathiSri, Thagavaluzhavan, Sodabottle,
Essar & I spoke and conducted editing sessions.

I gave a presentation on Wikipedia. In that session I covered 5 pillars of
WP, reliability of WP, importance of references, tasks for a Wikipedian,
benefits to a Wikipedian by editing WP. After that Thagavaluzhavan spoke
about Wiktionary, where he used Ta Wiktionary to explain everything instead
of using a presentation. He explained the multilingual nature of Wiktionary
and the need for multimedia content in it.

Next, Sodabottle explained the other sister projects - Wikisource,
Wikinews, Wikibooks and Commons. He explained the necessity of content
creation in mother tongues. A short introduction to the ongoing Tamil Wiki
Media Contest 
(http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest)
was also given.

Attendees didn't raise any questions in the Q&A session. But, they did ask
many doubts in the hands-on session that followed. During the session
the attendees
taught about creating account, WP navigation, terminology, uploading file,
using a file in an article, talking to another user. There were many
questions raised in this session. We, Wikimedians clarified their doubts
with clear explanations.

Around 1 PM the workshop came to an end. Group photos were taken. As a part
of Tamil Wiki Media Contest a small photo-walk had been arranged at the
end. User Essar, User Thagavaluzhavan and I took photos all along the road
sides of Salem Bazaar.

==Links==

1) Workshop page and talk page in ta wiki:
  Event 
page
  Talk 
Page

2) Images in commons
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedian_meetups_in_Salem,Dec2011


Thanks.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Noopur  wrote:

> Dear all,
> These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form of
> some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So, most
> of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as
> collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I am
> grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping
> encourage GLAM participation in India.
> This is the link to the programs:
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in each
> session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion!
> --cut--
>

Thanks Noopur for the detailed writeup. I am glad that you found it to be a
great learning experience.  Chapter is expected to play a key role in GLAM
initiative, based on our discussion with Liam in the beginning of the year.
We had some interactions with Dept of Public Libraries,Government of
Karnataka and  also Kannada Government Encyclopaedia project
(digital library)

Can you help seed some events around this?  You can use the
GLAMproject page on Wikimedia.in for
sharing your thoughts and/or proposals.

Cheers
Arjuna Rao Chavala
President, Wikimedia India
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Kolkata Bookfair 2012-Application submitted

2011-12-12 Thread Debanjan Bandyopadhyay

Go Jayanta da +1000

-- 
Regards,
Debanjan*

- Lets make this world a better and more informative place

*
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Deepon Saha  wrote:

> Will be there...:)
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Surya Prakash wrote:
>
>> Great efforts Jayanta.
>>
>> All the very best for your efforts. :)
>>
>>
>> *$U®¥∩*
>> http://goo.gl/RoMyo.com 
>> http://about.me/suryaceg
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9 December 2011 10:31, Jayanta Nath  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>> Yesterday, 8 December 2011, the application was submitted (attached the
>>> receipt copy) by Mr Biswarup Ganguly, they mentioned as 'Late Receipt'. The
>>> application contained;
>>>
>>> 1. The cover letter.
>>> 2. Print out registration certificate.
>>> 3. en copy of the certificate.
>>> 3. Main page of Wikimedia Foundation site.
>>> 4. Main page of en. wikipedia
>>> 5. Main page of bn. wikipedia.
>>> 6. Main page of hi. wikipedia
>>> 7. Main page of Wikimedia Chapter.
>>>
>>> It is known that the will call a meeting for finalizing the contract at
>>> late December, 2011.
>>>
>>> With regards.
>>>
>>> --
>>> With Warm Regards,
>>> *Jayanta Nath*
>>> Calcutta,West Bengal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Dr. Sengai Podhuvan 's Appeal to Fund raising banners

2011-12-12 Thread Sudhanwa Jogalekar

Hi,

During WCI, some of the Pune Wikipedians and Dr. Sengai Podhuvan were
staying in the same hotel.

We had a nice discussion with him while going to the conference.
Great energy and huge experience he has!!.
We are really privileged to have met him and interact with him.

Nice to see him in the fund-raiser appeal.

Best regards,
-Sudhanwa


On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just in case, you had missed Dr. Sengai Podhuvan's Appeal to Fund raising
> this year.
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011#Dr._Sengai_Podhuvan_Appeal_December_10.2C_2011
>
> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/L11_1209_DS/en/US
>
> ( This appeal is shown only in US so far and may come to India users very
> soon).
>
> I was so privileged to have met him personally at the Chennai Wikimeetup2
> way back in Nov 2010.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai2
>
> Many others would have met him at Wikiconference Mumbai and he was also
> awarded "Special mentions from Jury" for NWR 2011
>
> Sengai Podhuvan contributes primarily to Tamil Wiki, with more than 9700
> edits ( 97% edits to Article main-space itself).
> http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pcount/index.php?name=Sengai+Podhuvan&lang=ta&wiki=wikipedia
>
> I was also told he has started over 800+ articles in ta.wiki ( somebody
> correct me if i am wrong).
>  ( http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pages/ isn't working for me)
>
>
> Regards
> Tinu Cherian
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Dr. Sengai Podhuvan 's Appeal to Fund raising banners

2011-12-12 Thread CherianTinu Abraham

Thanks Bala.
It is 861 article creations from this account till date
http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pages/index.php?name=Sengai+Podhuvan&lang=ta&wiki=wikipedia&namespace=0&redirects=noredirects&getall=1


-TC


On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Bala Jeyaraman wrote:

> *800+ articles in ta.wiki*
>
> Yes through his account he has about 850 articles. The actual number is
> much more - near 1000 i think - as during his newbie days, he used to edit
> logged out often.
>
>  On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CherianTinu Abraham <
> tinucher...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Hi all,
>>
>> Just in case, you had missed Dr. Sengai Podhuvan's Appeal to Fund raising
>> this year.
>>
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011#Dr._Sengai_Podhuvan_Appeal_December_10.2C_2011
>>
>>
>> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/L11_1209_DS/en/US
>>
>> ( This appeal is shown only in US so far and may come to India users very
>> soon).
>>
>> I was so privileged to have met him personally at the Chennai Wikimeetup2
>> way back in Nov 2010.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai2
>>
>> Many others would have met him at Wikiconference Mumbai and he was also
>> awarded "Special mentions from Jury" for NWR 2011
>>
>> Sengai Podhuvan contributes primarily to Tamil Wiki, with more than 9700
>> edits ( 97% edits to Article main-space itself).
>>
>> http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pcount/index.php?name=Sengai+Podhuvan&lang=ta&wiki=wikipedia
>>
>>
>> I was also told he has started over 800+ articles in ta.wiki ( somebody
>> correct me if i am wrong).  ( http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pages/ isn't 
>> working
>> for me)
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Tinu Cherian
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Dr. Sengai Podhuvan 's Appeal to Fund raising banners

2011-12-12 Thread Bala Jeyaraman

 *800+ articles in ta.wiki*

Yes through his account he has about 850 articles. The actual number is
much more - near 1000 i think - as during his newbie days, he used to edit
logged out often.

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just in case, you had missed Dr. Sengai Podhuvan's Appeal to Fund raising
> this year.
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011#Dr._Sengai_Podhuvan_Appeal_December_10.2C_2011
>
>
> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/L11_1209_DS/en/US
>
> ( This appeal is shown only in US so far and may come to India users very
> soon).
>
> I was so privileged to have met him personally at the Chennai Wikimeetup2
> way back in Nov 2010.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai2
>
> Many others would have met him at Wikiconference Mumbai and he was also
> awarded "Special mentions from Jury" for NWR 2011
>
> Sengai Podhuvan contributes primarily to Tamil Wiki, with more than 9700
> edits ( 97% edits to Article main-space itself).
>
> http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pcount/index.php?name=Sengai+Podhuvan&lang=ta&wiki=wikipedia
>
>
> I was also told he has started over 800+ articles in ta.wiki ( somebody
> correct me if i am wrong).  ( http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pages/ isn't 
> working
> for me)
>
>
> Regards
> Tinu Cherian
>
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Dr. Sengai Podhuvan 's Appeal to Fund raising banners

2011-12-12 Thread CherianTinu Abraham

Hi all,

Just in case, you had missed Dr. Sengai Podhuvan's Appeal to Fund raising
this year.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011#Dr._Sengai_Podhuvan_Appeal_December_10.2C_2011


http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/L11_1209_DS/en/US

( This appeal is shown only in US so far and may come to India users very
soon).

I was so privileged to have met him personally at the Chennai Wikimeetup2
way back in Nov 2010.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai2

Many others would have met him at Wikiconference Mumbai and he was also
awarded "Special mentions from Jury" for NWR 2011

Sengai Podhuvan contributes primarily to Tamil Wiki, with more than 9700
edits ( 97% edits to Article main-space itself).
http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pcount/index.php?name=Sengai+Podhuvan&lang=ta&wiki=wikipedia


I was also told he has started over 800+ articles in ta.wiki ( somebody
correct me if i am wrong).  ( http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pages/
isn't working
for me)


Regards
Tinu Cherian
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] IEP canceled for the next term

2011-12-12 Thread Bala Jeyaraman

Hi Pradeep,

Here is the CCI page for IEP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contributor_copyright_investigations/Indian_Education_Program

This page lists all known IEP students and their contribs. A CCI checker
needs to go through the diffs provided, compare with the ref/google it and
see whether it is copyvio or not. Take a look at CCI instructions and the
various notations used and start with a small contrib to begin with. CCI
people are usually helpful and correct new participants.

regards
Bala

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Pradeep Mohandas <
pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> hi Bala,
>
> Could we also have some idea on how we can help with the cleanup that
> was needed? Is there a category in which these articles are placed so
> that we can clean-up the articles?
> I have heard about the clean-up being needed and felt that I could
> offer some assistance.
>
> warm regards,
> Pradeep
> User:Prad2609
> Handheld
>
> On 12/12/2011, Bala Jeyaraman  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just read from the IEP talk page in en wiki that IEP program has been
> > cancelled for the next term.
> > *
> > I'm also surprised that you think we are "ploughing ahead" -- we are
> not. We
> > canceled the program for the upcoming term so we could focus on fixing
> the
> > problems.*  - LiAnna Davis, GEP communications manager, WMF [1]
> >
> > In the same page, i see the first use of the "failure" word. from the
> > organisers. (* I don't feel that we can say we've involved the community
> in
> > determining why the Pune Pilot failed*). A page full of insights from
> > interviews conducted with people involved ruminating on why the program
> > failed has been added.[2]  Looks finally we have gotten around to
> > plainspeak and learning from mistakes. (I believe these interviews are
> > separate from Tory Read's report, which is due on Jan 15.)
> >
> > It would have better if we had been informed here too, instead of having
> to
> > dig through talk page discussions. Since IEP discussions have taken all
> > over the place, please take care to make important announcements like
> this
> > are made in all places where previous discussions have taken place -
> meta,
> > en wiki project page, india list and INT noticeboard in India.
> >
> >
> > ==Links==
> > 1.
> >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AIndia_Education_Program%2FAnalysis&action=historysubmit&diff=464252111&oldid=464169635
> > 2.
> >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:India_Education_Program/Analysis/WMF_interviews
> >
>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] IEP canceled for the next term

hi Bala,

Could we also have some idea on how we can help with the cleanup that
was needed? Is there a category in which these articles are placed so
that we can clean-up the articles?
I have heard about the clean-up being needed and felt that I could
offer some assistance.

warm regards,
Pradeep
User:Prad2609
Handheld

On 12/12/2011, Bala Jeyaraman  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just read from the IEP talk page in en wiki that IEP program has been
> cancelled for the next term.
> *
> I'm also surprised that you think we are "ploughing ahead" -- we are not. We
> canceled the program for the upcoming term so we could focus on fixing the
> problems.*  - LiAnna Davis, GEP communications manager, WMF [1]
>
> In the same page, i see the first use of the "failure" word. from the
> organisers. (* I don't feel that we can say we've involved the community in
> determining why the Pune Pilot failed*). A page full of insights from
> interviews conducted with people involved ruminating on why the program
> failed has been added.[2]  Looks finally we have gotten around to
> plainspeak and learning from mistakes. (I believe these interviews are
> separate from Tory Read's report, which is due on Jan 15.)
>
> It would have better if we had been informed here too, instead of having to
> dig through talk page discussions. Since IEP discussions have taken all
> over the place, please take care to make important announcements like this
> are made in all places where previous discussions have taken place - meta,
> en wiki project page, india list and INT noticeboard in India.
>
>
> ==Links==
> 1.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AIndia_Education_Program%2FAnalysis&action=historysubmit&diff=464252111&oldid=464169635
> 2.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:India_Education_Program/Analysis/WMF_interviews
>


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam

2011-12-12 Thread Noopur

Hey Pradeep and the rest of you,

What I think was my biggest take away from the GLAMcamp is: GLAM and
Outreach cannot be separated. Similar holds for expanding the India
Wikipedia community. While doing Wikiacademy or workshops or clubs or
meet-ups, the idea is to spread the word as much as encourage a culture of
good editing. That is what these guys back at the camp take very seriously,
every occasional meetup is a wonderful outreach opportunity! Let's talk
more about that :)
Warmly
Noopur

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Pradeep Mohandas <
pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> hi,
>
> Thank you for your update, Noopur. Coming back with more good and
> concrete is great and the best way for the community to reflect.
>
> Personally, I think there are people right now who are focussed on
> building a new breed of editors through WikiAcademies and
> Wiki-Workshops. This seems to be happening in tech schools and not in
> art schools. Very few of the tech school junta might be interested in
> the arts or history. But, they can teach the arts school junta to edit
> and help them out. I think it is this cross-disciplinary editing that
> we need to foster more in the Indian community.
> There are people on this mailing list who are interested in
> participating in GLAM. I hope they respond to this thread and
> participate in the conversation.
>
> warm regards,
> Pradeep
>
> On 12/12/2011, Noopur  wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form of
> > some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So,
> most
> > of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as
> > collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I am
> > grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping
> > encourage GLAM participation in India.
> > This is the link to the programs:
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in each
> > session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion!
> >
> >
> > Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important?
> >
> > Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has
> pending
> > requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file sharing.
> > Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata sharing,
> > open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that institutions
> go
> > by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or commons
> > is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar
> > archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach.
> >
> >
> > Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries:
> >
> >-
> >
> >Why Wikipedia, why not our own website?
> >
> > Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is the
> > 5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared
> > to your
> > own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not hard
> > either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive.
> >
> >-
> >
> >This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate?
> >
> > Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations (PPT),
> > simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple numbers,
> > percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa. Use
> > things like color coding, emphasize on the importance and seriousness of
> > ‘free knowledge’, larger things that Wikipedia is also in service of.
> This
> > helps people connect at different levels. Most importantly, break your
> > hierarchies and trash your rule books (or make simpler ones that use less
> > jargon). If you are concerned about quality editing there are two
> solutions
> > (get content specific editathons and organize a Wiki academy EVERY week).
> >
> >
> > What happens once partnership is over? How to sustain?
> >
> > This is why a GLAM coordinator is not simply a GLAM person. S/he is also
> > someone who does massive outreach: Wikipedia takes your city; Wiki loves
> > monuments, wikiacademies, PR and network building with local, regional
> and
> > national resource persons outside the community. While in capacity as a
> > fellow, the idea is also to do value addition, train employees (at least
> > train in minor edits, article making, image uploading). Source one
> contact
> > through another.
> >
> > (My take: As I see it, there has to be a crucial change in orientation.
> > From exhaustive internal debates, discussions and tool building
> exercises,
> > it has to move and adapt to the larger Open and free scene, involving
> > people albeit on a temporary basis and expanding. Monopolizing Wikipedia
> as
> > a city, state or indic language space is only going to create a highly
> > concentrated yet a very niche community)
> >
> >-
> >
> >(Question asked to me) 52 cultural partnerships listed on GLAM request
> >page, why not India?
> >
> > Frankly, I had no answe

[Wikimediaindia-l] IEP canceled for the next term

2011-12-12 Thread Bala Jeyaraman

Hi,

I just read from the IEP talk page in en wiki that IEP program has been
cancelled for the next term.
*
I'm also surprised that you think we are "ploughing ahead" -- we are not. We
canceled the program for the upcoming term so we could focus on fixing the
problems.* - LiAnna Davis, GEP communications manager, WMF [1]

In the same page, i see the first use of the "failure" word. from the
organisers. (* I don't feel that we can say we've involved the community in
determining why the Pune Pilot failed*). A page full of insights from
interviews conducted with people involved ruminating on why the program
failed has been added.[2] Looks finally we have gotten around to
plainspeak and learning from mistakes. (I believe these interviews are
separate from Tory Read's report, which is due on Jan 15.)

It would have better if we had been informed here too, instead of having to
dig through talk page discussions. Since IEP discussions have taken all
over the place, please take care to make important announcements like this
are made in all places where previous discussions have taken place - meta,
en wiki project page, india list and INT noticeboard in India.

==Links==
1.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AIndia_Education_Program%2FAnalysis&action=historysubmit&diff=464252111&oldid=464169635
2.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:India_Education_Program/Analysis/WMF_interviews
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam

hi,

Thank you for your update, Noopur. Coming back with more good and
concrete is great and the best way for the community to reflect.

Personally, I think there are people right now who are focussed on
building a new breed of editors through WikiAcademies and
Wiki-Workshops. This seems to be happening in tech schools and not in
art schools. Very few of the tech school junta might be interested in
the arts or history. But, they can teach the arts school junta to edit
and help them out. I think it is this cross-disciplinary editing that
we need to foster more in the Indian community.
There are people on this mailing list who are interested in
participating in GLAM. I hope they respond to this thread and
participate in the conversation.

warm regards,
Pradeep

On 12/12/2011, Noopur  wrote:
> Dear all,
> These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form of
> some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So, most
> of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as
> collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I am
> grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping
> encourage GLAM participation in India.
> This is the link to the programs:
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in each
> session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion!
>
>
> Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important?
>
> Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has pending
> requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file sharing.
> Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata sharing,
> open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that institutions go
> by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or commons
> is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar
> archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach.
>
>
> Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries:
>
>-
>
>Why Wikipedia, why not our own website?
>
> Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is the
> 5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared
> to your
> own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not hard
> either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive.
>
>-
>
>This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate?
>
> Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations (PPT),
> simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple numbers,
> percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa. Use
> things like color coding, emphasize on the importance and seriousness of
> ‘free knowledge’, larger things that Wikipedia is also in service of. This
> helps people connect at different levels. Most importantly, break your
> hierarchies and trash your rule books (or make simpler ones that use less
> jargon). If you are concerned about quality editing there are two solutions
> (get content specific editathons and organize a Wiki academy EVERY week).
>
>
> What happens once partnership is over? How to sustain?
>
> This is why a GLAM coordinator is not simply a GLAM person. S/he is also
> someone who does massive outreach: Wikipedia takes your city; Wiki loves
> monuments, wikiacademies, PR and network building with local, regional and
> national resource persons outside the community. While in capacity as a
> fellow, the idea is also to do value addition, train employees (at least
> train in minor edits, article making, image uploading). Source one contact
> through another.
>
> (My take: As I see it, there has to be a crucial change in orientation.
> From exhaustive internal debates, discussions and tool building exercises,
> it has to move and adapt to the larger Open and free scene, involving
> people albeit on a temporary basis and expanding. Monopolizing Wikipedia as
> a city, state or indic language space is only going to create a highly
> concentrated yet a very niche community)
>
>-
>
>(Question asked to me) 52 cultural partnerships listed on GLAM request
>page, why not India?
>
> Frankly, I had no answers why. My hunch is that since traditionally science
> and technology oriented courses and vocations have been encouraged, few lay
> people really know their culture or feel as passionately about
> conservation. On the other hand, placement of government officials to
> unrelated departments (museums) included leaves them little motivation to
> go beyond their regular duties. On the other hand, there is also a large
> communication and visibility problem since Wikimeetups aren’t really a
> matter of common knowledge even to journalists. Wikimedia India really
> needs to carve out a place and get involved in academic and art spaces,
> have people just talk about their experiences, present smaller individual
> pilots (Sumanna)
>
>-
>
>Why no Indian participation in ‘This

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