Hey Pradeep and the rest of you, What I think was my biggest take away from the GLAMcamp is: GLAM and Outreach cannot be separated. Similar holds for expanding the India Wikipedia community. While doing Wikiacademy or workshops or clubs or meet-ups, the idea is to spread the word as much as encourage a culture of good editing. That is what these guys back at the camp take very seriously, every occasional meetup is a wonderful outreach opportunity! Let's talk more about that :) Warmly Noopur
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Pradeep Mohandas < pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote: > hi, > > Thank you for your update, Noopur. Coming back with more good and > concrete is great and the best way for the community to reflect. > > Personally, I think there are people right now who are focussed on > building a new breed of editors through WikiAcademies and > Wiki-Workshops. This seems to be happening in tech schools and not in > art schools. Very few of the tech school junta might be interested in > the arts or history. But, they can teach the arts school junta to edit > and help them out. I think it is this cross-disciplinary editing that > we need to foster more in the Indian community. > There are people on this mailing list who are interested in > participating in GLAM. I hope they respond to this thread and > participate in the conversation. > > warm regards, > Pradeep > > On 12/12/2011, Noopur <noopur.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear all, > > These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form of > > some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So, > most > > of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as > > collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I am > > grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping > > encourage GLAM participation in India. > > This is the link to the programs: > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in each > > session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion! > > > > > > Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important? > > > > Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has > pending > > requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file sharing. > > Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata sharing, > > open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that institutions > go > > by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or commons > > is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar > > archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach. > > > > > > Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries: > > > > - > > > > Why Wikipedia, why not our own website? > > > > Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is the > > 5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared > > to your > > own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not hard > > either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive. > > > > - > > > > This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate? > > > > Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations (PPT), > > simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple numbers, > > percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa. Use > > things like color coding, emphasize on the importance and seriousness of > > ‘free knowledge’, larger things that Wikipedia is also in service of. > This > > helps people connect at different levels. Most importantly, break your > > hierarchies and trash your rule books (or make simpler ones that use less > > jargon). If you are concerned about quality editing there are two > solutions > > (get content specific editathons and organize a Wiki academy EVERY week). > > > > > > What happens once partnership is over? How to sustain? > > > > This is why a GLAM coordinator is not simply a GLAM person. S/he is also > > someone who does massive outreach: Wikipedia takes your city; Wiki loves > > monuments, wikiacademies, PR and network building with local, regional > and > > national resource persons outside the community. While in capacity as a > > fellow, the idea is also to do value addition, train employees (at least > > train in minor edits, article making, image uploading). Source one > contact > > through another. > > > > (My take: As I see it, there has to be a crucial change in orientation. > > From exhaustive internal debates, discussions and tool building > exercises, > > it has to move and adapt to the larger Open and free scene, involving > > people albeit on a temporary basis and expanding. Monopolizing Wikipedia > as > > a city, state or indic language space is only going to create a highly > > concentrated yet a very niche community) > > > > - > > > > (Question asked to me) 52 cultural partnerships listed on GLAM request > > page, why not India? > > > > Frankly, I had no answers why. My hunch is that since traditionally > science > > and technology oriented courses and vocations have been encouraged, few > lay > > people really know their culture or feel as passionately about > > conservation. On the other hand, placement of government officials to > > unrelated departments (museums) included leaves them little motivation to > > go beyond their regular duties. On the other hand, there is also a large > > communication and visibility problem since Wikimeetups aren’t really a > > matter of common knowledge even to journalists. Wikimedia India really > > needs to carve out a place and get involved in academic and art spaces, > > have people just talk about their experiences, present smaller individual > > pilots (Sumanna) > > > > - > > > > Why no Indian participation in ‘This month in GLAM’? > > > > Because there is really no ‘Indian’ GLAM or ‘Indian’ community. As > > wonderful as the Indic language efforts are, it would be great if there > > were biannual national meet-ups, regional meets and more frequent local > > meets. Identify at least 4-5 cities that can act as pivotal regional > > meeting and resource points. This will also help generate smaller goals > and > > activities and we can have our own newsletter as well as TMIG updates. > > > > - > > > > How do we identify, regulate and strengthen local community based > > interactions? > > > > Most important: Every chapter must have a national outreach coordinator. > > Have mandatory sections in agenda: Gender gap, Indic, English, GLAM, > tools, > > updates, outreach. Invite guest speakers or professors who can give a > talk > > or attend and that way get to see the internal workings of the local > > community. Try and concretize a press team, media releases, word of > mouth, > > social networking channel so that every time news passes by, we have a > > loyal reader, enthusiast base. > > > > - > > > > What tools are used to digitize artifacts? > > > > Proposed GLAMtoolset, more on etherpad, apart from this proposal to move > > GLAM to a different portal from Outreach redirect. More on etherpad > > > > - > > > > Do people really know who a Wikipedian is, what Wikimedia projects are > > about? > > > > Andy Mabbett, Fae from UK chapter spoke about their fund raising and > > outreach activities, also on how to recruit new editors and how to > recruit > > new Wikimedians > > > > Important task is to categorically do outreach and editor involvement > > together. > > > > - > > > > Who all do you invite in a wikimeetup? > > > > Go to institutions and say how can we help you > > > > Go with groups to cultural institutions and get volunteers so that you > get > > focused group > > > > Organize a fb group and event > > > > Is there a monthly update? > > > > Need for a cultural outreach coordinator position > > > > Need for a monthly newsletter that binds all indic and English community > > members > > > > Need to look at GLAMs more seriously because women’s outreach and GLAM > are > > intricately connected. > > > > Need to move to more friendly UIs and keep discussions going. Of course, > > mailing lists exist and they can be for people specifically involved in a > > community but for the novices and to attract more people, there is a need > > to get FB groups going, have more Wiki academies. > > > > > > These are a few salient questions. I will appreciate your suggestions, > > advice, comments and questions. Let us try and be civil about criticism, > > like mature, secure adults :) Look forward to your responses! > > > > Warmly > > > > Noopur > > > > -- > > Noopur Raval > > Student > > Arts and Aesthetics > > Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi > > Ph: 9650567690 > > > > > -- > Pradeep Mohandas > How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690
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