Hello all :) I am glad you liked it and yes, I will post updates on the page. I am in talks with someone from a relatively big museum but am taking it carefully because these things, as you know, are very delicate. I might require the chapter's support and preferably someone from the chapter or foundation who is in Delhi. This will be sometime in January first week. SO, I urge you all to stick around AND, most importantly speak up.
I only see a couple of names over and over and I am sure there are more people who agree or disagree. *Also, if you guys from the chapter saw the bit on regular meet-ups, do consider a zonal organisation for India as a community. Everyone kept asking me how this big a country manages to have a single chapter for all. Let's make nodal points and have newsletters or updates. I can volunteer to make a newsletter! * Warmly Noopur PS. (thanks Srikanth R. and Arjuna :) ) On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Noopur, lovely mail. This should be made part of the FAQ on the > Wiki India Chapter website. I read about a massive GLAM collaboration > in the UK with a Museum for the Hoxne Hoard, which is a Featured > Article in English. The efforts to get info, photos etc, are > documented in the Foundation Report of 2009 2010. I believe this is > what we need to emulate in India simply because much of our culture > and heritage is present and rotting in several museums and we can save > it on Wiki. > > On 12/12/2011, Noopur <noopur.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hey Pradeep and the rest of you, > > > > What I think was my biggest take away from the GLAMcamp is: GLAM and > > Outreach cannot be separated. Similar holds for expanding the India > > Wikipedia community. While doing Wikiacademy or workshops or clubs or > > meet-ups, the idea is to spread the word as much as encourage a culture > of > > good editing. That is what these guys back at the camp take very > seriously, > > every occasional meetup is a wonderful outreach opportunity! Let's talk > > more about that :) > > Warmly > > Noopur > > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Pradeep Mohandas < > > pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> hi, > >> > >> Thank you for your update, Noopur. Coming back with more good and > >> concrete is great and the best way for the community to reflect. > >> > >> Personally, I think there are people right now who are focussed on > >> building a new breed of editors through WikiAcademies and > >> Wiki-Workshops. This seems to be happening in tech schools and not in > >> art schools. Very few of the tech school junta might be interested in > >> the arts or history. But, they can teach the arts school junta to edit > >> and help them out. I think it is this cross-disciplinary editing that > >> we need to foster more in the Indian community. > >> There are people on this mailing list who are interested in > >> participating in GLAM. I hope they respond to this thread and > >> participate in the conversation. > >> > >> warm regards, > >> Pradeep > >> > >> On 12/12/2011, Noopur <noopur.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Dear all, > >> > These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form > >> > of > >> > some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So, > >> most > >> > of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as > >> > collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I > am > >> > grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping > >> > encourage GLAM participation in India. > >> > This is the link to the programs: > >> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in > each > >> > session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion! > >> > > >> > > >> > Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important? > >> > > >> > Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has > >> pending > >> > requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file sharing. > >> > Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata > sharing, > >> > open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that > institutions > >> go > >> > by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or > commons > >> > is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar > >> > archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach. > >> > > >> > > >> > Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries: > >> > > >> > - > >> > > >> > Why Wikipedia, why not our own website? > >> > > >> > Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is the > >> > 5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared > >> > to your > >> > own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not > hard > >> > either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive. > >> > > >> > - > >> > > >> > This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate? > >> > > >> > Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations > (PPT), > >> > simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple > numbers, > >> > percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa. > >> > Use > >> > things like color coding, emphasize on the importance and seriousness > of > >> > ‘free knowledge’, larger things that Wikipedia is also in service of. > >> This > >> > helps people connect at different levels. Most importantly, break your > >> > hierarchies and trash your rule books (or make simpler ones that use > >> > less > >> > jargon). If you are concerned about quality editing there are two > >> solutions > >> > (get content specific editathons and organize a Wiki academy EVERY > >> > week). > >> > > >> > > >> > What happens once partnership is over? How to sustain? > >> > > >> > This is why a GLAM coordinator is not simply a GLAM person. S/he is > also > >> > someone who does massive outreach: Wikipedia takes your city; Wiki > loves > >> > monuments, wikiacademies, PR and network building with local, regional > >> and > >> > national resource persons outside the community. While in capacity as > a > >> > fellow, the idea is also to do value addition, train employees (at > least > >> > train in minor edits, article making, image uploading). Source one > >> contact > >> > through another. > >> > > >> > (My take: As I see it, there has to be a crucial change in > orientation. > >> > From exhaustive internal debates, discussions and tool building > >> exercises, > >> > it has to move and adapt to the larger Open and free scene, involving > >> > people albeit on a temporary basis and expanding. Monopolizing > Wikipedia > >> as > >> > a city, state or indic language space is only going to create a highly > >> > concentrated yet a very niche community) > >> > > >> > - > >> > > >> > (Question asked to me) 52 cultural partnerships listed on GLAM > >> > request > >> > page, why not India? > >> > > >> > Frankly, I had no answers why. My hunch is that since traditionally > >> science > >> > and technology oriented courses and vocations have been encouraged, > few > >> lay > >> > people really know their culture or feel as passionately about > >> > conservation. On the other hand, placement of government officials to > >> > unrelated departments (museums) included leaves them little motivation > >> > to > >> > go beyond their regular duties. On the other hand, there is also a > large > >> > communication and visibility problem since Wikimeetups aren’t really a > >> > matter of common knowledge even to journalists. Wikimedia India really > >> > needs to carve out a place and get involved in academic and art > spaces, > >> > have people just talk about their experiences, present smaller > >> > individual > >> > pilots (Sumanna) > >> > > >> > - > >> > > >> > Why no Indian participation in ‘This month in GLAM’? > >> > > >> > Because there is really no ‘Indian’ GLAM or ‘Indian’ community. As > >> > wonderful as the Indic language efforts are, it would be great if > there > >> > were biannual national meet-ups, regional meets and more frequent > local > >> > meets. Identify at least 4-5 cities that can act as pivotal regional > >> > meeting and resource points. This will also help generate smaller > goals > >> and > >> > activities and we can have our own newsletter as well as TMIG updates. > >> > > >> > - > >> > > >> > How do we identify, regulate and strengthen local community based > >> > interactions? > >> > > >> > Most important: Every chapter must have a national outreach > coordinator. > >> > Have mandatory sections in agenda: Gender gap, Indic, English, GLAM, > >> tools, > >> > updates, outreach. Invite guest speakers or professors who can give a > >> talk > >> > or attend and that way get to see the internal workings of the local > >> > community. Try and concretize a press team, media releases, word of > >> mouth, > >> > social networking channel so that every time news passes by, we have a > >> > loyal reader, enthusiast base. > >> > > >> > - > >> > > >> > What tools are used to digitize artifacts? > >> > > >> > Proposed GLAMtoolset, more on etherpad, apart from this proposal to > move > >> > GLAM to a different portal from Outreach redirect. More on etherpad > >> > > >> > - > >> > > >> > Do people really know who a Wikipedian is, what Wikimedia projects > >> > are > >> > about? > >> > > >> > Andy Mabbett, Fae from UK chapter spoke about their fund raising and > >> > outreach activities, also on how to recruit new editors and how to > >> recruit > >> > new Wikimedians > >> > > >> > Important task is to categorically do outreach and editor involvement > >> > together. > >> > > >> > - > >> > > >> > Who all do you invite in a wikimeetup? > >> > > >> > Go to institutions and say how can we help you > >> > > >> > Go with groups to cultural institutions and get volunteers so that > you > >> get > >> > focused group > >> > > >> > Organize a fb group and event > >> > > >> > Is there a monthly update? > >> > > >> > Need for a cultural outreach coordinator position > >> > > >> > Need for a monthly newsletter that binds all indic and English > community > >> > members > >> > > >> > Need to look at GLAMs more seriously because women’s outreach and GLAM > >> are > >> > intricately connected. > >> > > >> > Need to move to more friendly UIs and keep discussions going. Of > course, > >> > mailing lists exist and they can be for people specifically involved > in > >> > a > >> > community but for the novices and to attract more people, there is a > >> > need > >> > to get FB groups going, have more Wiki academies. > >> > > >> > > >> > These are a few salient questions. I will appreciate your suggestions, > >> > advice, comments and questions. Let us try and be civil about > criticism, > >> > like mature, secure adults :) Look forward to your responses! > >> > > >> > Warmly > >> > > >> > Noopur > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Noopur Raval > >> > Student > >> > Arts and Aesthetics > >> > Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi > >> > Ph: 9650567690 > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Pradeep Mohandas > >> How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Noopur Raval > > Student > > Arts and Aesthetics > > Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi > > Ph: 9650567690 > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > Regards, > Srikanth Ramakrishnan. > Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690
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