Re: [WSG] Color Blindnesss
"Somewhere out there", I lost my link to it in an old HDD crash, there is a site that allows you to test your site using the various perceptions people with various types of color blindness suffer from - it was actually quite handy. Here's one site that does that. http://vischeck.com/ on this page: http://www.vischeck.com/vischeck/vischeckURL.php Although when I've tried it, it's been very slow. -- Bill McAvinney Massachusetts Institute of Technology Web Services Administrative Computing, IS&T 617-669-1015 * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] Show/hide layers without javascript (was: [WSG] How to do some things)
What you describe can only be achieved with javascript However, you can "show/hide" text (and in some browsers images) using hover as shown here: http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo.html and here: http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo2.html This isn't what you asked for, but it might be helpful depending on what you're really trying to achieve. Bill McAvinney * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] *sigh* drop-downs
Hi Justin, Studies on this topic seem pretty scarce. The only one I'm aware of is http://psychology.wichita.edu/surl/usabilitynews/51/menu.htm Unfortunately for you it doesn't show a statistically relevant difference in users perceptions of either, "Perceived Disorientation", "Perceived Ease of Navigation", or Perceived Frustration". What it does show is a speed difference in task completion with a categorical index menu being slightly faster than a drop down. BTW I don't think this was a very good user sample with only 18 people and over 70 percent using the web more than 25 hours a week. Here's another interesting piece of info although not a "controlled" study that you could use for "Proof": http://urlgreyhot.com/drupal/node/view/1440 It shows a significant user preference for use of inline links as opposed to an expanding menu nav. -- Bill McAvinney * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
[WSG] Relative font sizes without relative dimension units
Hi Folks,
I was wondering if anyone has ideas for a simpler way of dealing with
this issue than I have.
The issue:
I like to set my font sizes in ems. I also use ems a lot to position
block elements so that my designs work better as people expand &
contract their text sizes. The problem is for example if I have body
with font-size 1em and h1 with font-size 1.5em, then a 10em margin on
a div (within body) renders at 2/3 the size of the same 10em margin
on an h1.
The solution I've come up with is to enclose non-1em sized text in a
span tag and assign font size values with a contextual selector (e.g.
h1 span {font-size:1.5em}). The problem with this solution is that it
means adding quite a few semantically meaningless tags.
Anybody got a better idea?
--
Bill McAvinney
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Web Services
Administrative Computing, IS&T
617-258-6023
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Re: [WSG] Relative font sizes without relative dimension units
What I'm looking for is a way to have a consistent em based measuring unit across all block elements in a site so that a width of say 10em will be the same no matter what the font size of the text in that block is. Here's a little demo using your example with each element given a left margin of 10em, and similar headers with my typical use of spans: http://hurricane.mit.edu/erp_manuals/test.html As you can see the way you're suggesting still gives an effective margin of 12em when the font size is 1.2em and 15em when the font size is 1.5em. -- Bill McAvinney Massachusetts Institute of Technology Web Services Administrative Computing, IS&T 617-258-6023 * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] Relative font sizes without relative dimension units
On Jun 4, 2004, at 7:33 PM, Patrick Lauke wrote: The only way around it that I can think of is to do the calculation of padding/margin based on your font size by hand. In my example it's pretty straight forward. In the real world with inheritance, it is often prohibitively expensive to figure out just what the correct compensation is for each element. Automatic calculation and compensation by a RAD tool would be great. On Jun 5, 2004, at 3:13 AM, Lea de Groot wrote: If you want a consistently absolutely-sized block, then you'll need to use a fixed size font-size unit (errr...) such as px. I was being a bit loose with my words. I want sizing to be relative to the users font size setting (e.g. if they have their font size set for twice the default, I want my layout to be 2X what it would be at the default setting – screen real estate permitting), but not relative to my font size setting in that particular block element. In other words if the user wants smaller or larger text I want my design to adjust to match, but I don't want the design (i.e. margins, widths, etc.) to be 50% larger in the places where my text is 50% larger. Bill McAvinney * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
[WSG] Relative font sizes without relative dimension units
Hi Folks,
I was wondering if anyone has ideas for a simpler way of dealing with this issue than
I have.
The issue:
I like to set my font sizes in ems. I also use ems a lot to position block elements so
that my designs work better as people expand & contract their text sizes. The problem
is for example if I have body with font-size 1em and h1 with font-size 1.5em, then a
10em margin on a div (within body) renders at 2/3 the size of the same 10em margin on
an h1.
The solution I've come up with is to enclose non-1em sized text in a span tag and
assign font size values with a contextual selector (e.g. h1 span {font-size:1.5em}).
The problem with this solution is that it means adding quite a few semantically
meaningless tags.
Anybody got a better idea?
--
Bill McAvinney
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Web Services
Administrative Computing, IS&T
617-258-6023
*
The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/
See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
for some hints on posting to the list & getting help
*
Re: [WSG] Relative font sizes without relative dimension units
What I'm looking for is a way to have a consistent em based measuring unit across all block elements in a site so that a width of say 10em will be the same no matter what the font size of the text in that block is. Here's a little demo using your example with each element given a left margin of 10em, and similar headers with my typical use of spans: http://hurricane.mit.edu/erp_manuals/test.html As you can see the way you're suggesting still gives an effective margin of 12em when the font size is 1.2em and 15em when the font size is 1.5em. -- Bill McAvinney Massachusetts Institute of Technology Web Services Administrative Computing, IS&T 617-258-6023 * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
[WSG] Relative font sizes - Thread Closed
Hi Folks, My apologies for the duplicate posts from awhile ago. For anyone interested in the gory details: Eudora puts mail you've sent in an "Out" folder. Apple Mail uses the same word "Out" to refer to mail needing to be sent. In short, import your old "Out" folder from Eudora into Mail and it all gets resent. Bill McAvinney * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] Site Check - ShetlandCoffee.com
A couple of things I notice, that haven't been mentioned: 1. The "Wholesale Enquiries" page is right shifted compared to the other pages 2. On at least some of the "buy" pages the very first anchor, href="http://www.shetlandcoffee.com/";>class="logo" alt="Shetland Coffee Company" />, isn't closed. While most browsers are being generous to you and closing it for you, Safari isn't. So in Safari every piece of text on those pages is an underlined link back to the front page, if not otherwise specified. Moral: validate at the very end. 3. On the front page in IE-Win, Firefox & Safari, just one text size up and the central image rises up onto the dark background of the "buy" div, creating a strong contrast between the background and the cutoff white coffee cups, which I think draws your eye to the wrong place. 4. This one is more my curiosity. Every time I see someone try to match the background of a .jpg to a background color, it doesn't work in Safari, yet it does work in Firefox on the Mac. The background colors render the same in Firefox & Safari. It's the image that renders darker in Safari. Anybody know why? Bill McAvinney On Jan 11, 2006, at 3:09 PM, David Nicol wrote: Hi everyone, I'd appreciate it very much if you could take a quick look at: http://www.shetlandcoffee.com/ All comments welcome. In particular, please let me know if you spot anything that I'd need to fix before my client begins to promote the site. Thank you in advance. Kind regards David Nicol www.nbcommunication.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Picture Login
Hi Marvin,The attached file may be a photo of you (80 x 80 pix). I found it through a Google search. It appears to have come from Moodle although it's no longer there, and identifies you as living in Devonport.Hope this helps.On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:07 PM, Marvin Hunkin wrote:Hi.when i registered for this group a few years ago, did i upload a picture of my self.is this allowed.looking for a picture of my self, and do not have it on my computer any more.have searched on google a picture of marvin hunkin.need this now, as learning php, and the current exercises i doing, says i need a picture to upload.if any one can help out, or knows where i can find a picture of my self.let me know.i am totally blind, my parents do not have a digital camera, and hard to take the picture on their mobile, and have internet and e-mail disabled, as on a prepaid card.Marvin.-- Join My Blind-Aid group at :http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/Blind-AidTo join this group , send a blank message to:blind-aid-subscr...@yahoogroups.com***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org*** ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org***
