Re: [Zappa-List] vines

2005-10-06 Thread marcomat





That's right, Jim
I received the MITB Cds from Brazil and after 2 days I 
forwarded them to Richard Hall-US (who had been very quick in sending me his 
snail mail address); then... silence. So I sent another set of CDs to the next 
in line, Mr. Scott Burnett (it was August 2nd, and I was leaving for my 
summer holidays).  When I returned back from vacation, I checked the e-mail 
and saw no messages from Scott confirming he had received and forwarded the 
packet. So I asked if the CDs had gone lost (I was ready to make a third 
attempt!) and finally Scott emerged saying (on Aug. 31st) that he was going to 
send MITB to Cyrano
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/message/9958
Then, no sign of life.
 
Music Would Be The Best
marco
 
 

  
  
  Da: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Jim 
  LInviato: giovedì 6 ottobre 2005 1.58A: 
  Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comOggetto: RE: [Zappa-List] 
  vines
  
  
  Ho did 
  that one die a premature death as well? Did you ever get it? I restarted it 
  once and it got to at least one or two. Then I remember it got lost in the 
  mail but I thought someone had said they would resend the discs? 
  
   
  
  BTW obvius 
  typo in my previus post (diapering 
  vines) should be disappearing vines. lolJim L 
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:21 
  PMTo: 
  Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] 
  vines
   
  
  Well, then it looks as if delay 
  is not the issue here then. But it sure does suck when you wait so long on a 
  vine that you begin to accept the fact that you might not ever receive it. 
  MITB comes to mind for me on this one.
  
   
  
  Mr. Skull
  

Personally 
I don’t mind a delay. Especially if the person sends a post to the list 
explaining it. It’s the vines that just stop. I really don’t know were all 
this has happened. Ok I think I know about a couple of recent ones. I just 
know that out of the several vines I’ve started over the last 6 to 12 months 
only one or two seem to have completed to the point that someone posts a 
message saying they were last. I’ve never even been affected much by 
diapering vines because I seldom sign up to receive one. More often it’s 
just that I’ve acquired something that I think is more than worth sharing 
and so I start one.   
  
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[Zappa-List] VO: Paris October 1968, Beat Club, TV Studio DVD

2005-10-06 Thread Nokeating4


This one was offered a while back, and I was the last one on the list.  Thanks to Mr. Skull, I can reoffer:
 
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[Zappa-List] Noob

2005-10-06 Thread Schmig
Hi all,

I'm a newbie here. It just dawned on me recently to check for a Zappa 
Yahoo Group *slaps forehead*

I've read the FAQ and am intrigued by the 'vines' idea. However from 
reading a few mails, I'm finding it a bit overwhelming to know where
to start. I'd like to be involved, but am not sure if I have anything 
to contribute. I suppose everyone has to start from somewhere, I'd 
definitely like to assist in sharing the Zappa wealth!

I'd appreciate any assistance given.

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Re: [Zappa-List] Noob

2005-10-06 Thread jcoonk





Welcome to the Zappa-List, Schmig!
No need to feel intimidated; the vine system here was developed to 
eliminate the "but I've got nothing good to trade" feeling that new collectors 
have. We have lots of contributors! The prevailing attitude here is "what can I 
share?", not "what can I get in return for my contribution".
And that's the way I like it...
What you need to do to get started is visit the yahoo groups Zappa-List 
page, and peruse the messages for "VO's" (vine offers); find the last post 
regarding a vine that sounds interesting; respond to that message by adding your 
name to the end of the list; pay attention to that message thread for anyone who 
may sign up behind you.
If you've read the FAQ, then you should be ready to jump on in!
You may email me privately, if you're still unsure how to play 
along...
Warm Regards,
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Schmig 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 5:41 
  AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Noob
  Hi all,I'm a newbie here. It just dawned on me recently 
  to check for a Zappa Yahoo Group *slaps forehead*I've read the FAQ 
  and am intrigued by the 'vines' idea. However from reading a few mails, 
  I'm finding it a bit overwhelming to know whereto start. I'd like to be 
  involved, but am not sure if I have anything to contribute. I suppose 
  everyone has to start from somewhere, I'd definitely like to assist in 
  sharing the Zappa wealth!I'd appreciate any assistance 
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[Zappa-List] Re: VO Manchester 79 -- Euro vine

2005-10-06 Thread Conehead

Conehead-BE << JFD-FR [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Richard L.M (UK) << Bart (POL ) 
<< marcomat-IT

Thanks marcomat for up-updating the list.
OK, I have received this great show today coming in from Denmark, 
thank you, Carsten !! What a killer sounding show, fabulous !!

I won't be able to send it onwards before early next week, so thank 
you all behind for your patience ... Meanwhile, could JFD from France 
already send me his postal address in private, please ? Thanks.

Back in a couple of days,
best wishes,

conehead-BE



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> So, if Carsten's "updated" list is correct, it should be up-updated 
as
> follows... I think
> 
> Cris H-UK << Alain.R-CH(Switzerland) << John G -UK << Carsten - DK 
<<
> Conehead-BE << JFD-FR [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Richard L.M (UK) << Bart (POL ) 
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> 
> Correct me if I'm wrong
> 
> All the best
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Re: [Zappa-List] vines - everyone PLEASE read.

2005-10-06 Thread mr_and_mrs_skull





Just for the record. Something of the comments 
you've responded to listed with my name below, are in fact either Jim's or 
someone else's. Maybe I'm misreading your tone, but I get the feeling of being 
singled out here. I may be mistaken. 
Point being, I'm not the only one who *clearly* 
expressed some feeling of frustration and disappointment over frequent 'vine 
failure'. As you pointed out this group belongs to all of us, I reserve the 
right from here on in to decline anyone who failed to keep their end of the 
bargain on moving a vine along
(AKA "moving the project forward"). I will do this 
*ONLY* on vines I start, and it will be done off-list\privately. And with the 
condition that once they uphold their commitment, I will gladly add them to the 
end of any vine I begin.
 
That's my "final solution"
 
Mr. Skull

  SOFA came up with this great new system that should make it easy to 
  track the vines. Seems to me that with a good system like this we could easily 
  determine who is killing the vines. For any one not familiar with SOFA's vine 
  method I took the liberty of posting it here for easy access. http://www.regyptionstrut.com/vine.htmJim 
  L 
  The system works - when it's employed. It's not universally 
  employed. With a group like this, with people joining (and leaving) everyday, 
  you gotta kinda hope that newbies read the FAQ that explains it all. 
  Unfortunately, not all do - no, no, no, they're much to wise for that; FAQ's 
  are for dummies... PEUW!
  There are some "regulars" that still don't employ the system, ("I 
  don't need a to read the FAQ; I've been posting for years". Double 
  PEUW!), so it's not just new members... The biggest problem lately is 
  members on digest that respond to an "old message", which - in effect - screws 
  up the proper order of the vine. Hey, when in doubt, visit the yahoo page; 
  it's the most up-to-date.
  This aint rocket science, kids...
  (Frankly, I think most are too lazy to bother - but, that's just 
  me, speaking from experience,)
   
  
  I had missed the removal of one's own name 
  aspect of this vine system. But one question: If there are no consequences for 
  those who might repeatedly "kill" a vine, then what good can it possibly do us 
  to know who is responsible. 
  Mr. Skull
  "Consequences" require a specific set of "actions" on someone's 
  part - namely, moi. As sole owner/moderator of the Zappa list, that means I 
  would have to (unbiasedly) track every vine that occurs here. Since we began 
  the vine system, posts regarding them has become the major influx of 
  mail.
  I'm sorry, but I simply can't dedicate that much time to the 
  vines. I still monitor every post made by a new member before it hits the 
  boards; until a new member's "intent" has been made clear to me, none of you 
  are bothered by extraneous poot. By doing this, I have eliminated all porn 
  spam, chain mails, and other self-promotional crap that plagues yahoo groups. 
  I believe my efforts have made the Zappa-List the friendliest, crap-free group 
  going at yahoo. And that's as far as I care to take it, on the moderator 
  end...
   
  I think we know where the vines are and who kills them. The 
  point is what action can be taken. You have to be seen to be fair, as we all 
  have life difficulties from time to time. It shouldn't be a problem 
  to let the list know your going to cause a delay...unless your pc dies...then 
  what?
  Mr. Skull
  Here's the deal: The Zappa-List is your group. I only try 
  to do what I think is best for the 700+ members we have. If the more active 
  viners wish to have a greater deal of "control" (read: able to inflict 
  consequences) of the workings of the group, I'm all for it and I welcome your 
  private email(s) to that effect. {Don't send no boys, okay? Serious 
  contributors only, please. And I gotta take a minute to thank JimL for holding 
  down the fort for me in the past - you ROCK, dude!}
  AFA what I recommend in the case of known (or suspected) "vine 
  killers", if you all know who's killing off vines (Lord knows I have no clue), 
  then simply move their name to the end of the list, or remove it altogether. 
  If they respond and bitch, state your case in the most inoffensive manner 
  possible {remember, personal attacks are simply not tolerated; use the facts 
  as you see them, and keep your opinion to yourself}, and request an 
  explanatory response.
  Remember, it's your group!
  It's unfortunate, but a fact, that some folks are just scum. I'm 
  one of those that needs to smacked over the head repeatedly with proof 
  before I believe it of anyone... It's one of the things that makes me lovable 
  - that, and my tasteful, maroon hue.
  Regards,
  SOFA
   





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Re: [Zappa-List] vines - everyone PLEASE read.

2005-10-06 Thread Richard





I don't think anyone was pointing to you.I 
think we know that the 'regulars' are reliable and we can cut them some slack 
when they are a little late responding. Its those where it stops dead are the 
pointee's...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 7:55 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] vines - 
  everyone PLEASE read.
  
  Just for the record. Something of the comments 
  you've responded to listed with my name below, are in fact either Jim's or 
  someone else's. Maybe I'm misreading your tone, but I get the feeling of being 
  singled out here. I may be mistaken. 
  Point being, I'm not the only one who *clearly* 
  expressed some feeling of frustration and disappointment over frequent 'vine 
  failure'. As you pointed out this group belongs to all of us, I reserve the 
  right from here on in to decline anyone who failed to keep their end of the 
  bargain on moving a vine along
  (AKA "moving the project forward"). I will do 
  this *ONLY* on vines I start, and it will be done off-list\privately. And with 
  the condition that once they uphold their commitment, I will gladly add them 
  to the end of any vine I begin.
   
  That's my "final solution"
   
  Mr. Skull
  
SOFA came up with this great new system that should make it easy to 
track the vines. Seems to me that with a good system like this we could 
easily determine who is killing the vines. For any one not familiar with 
SOFA's vine method I took the liberty of posting it here for easy access. 
http://www.regyptionstrut.com/vine.htmJim 
L 
The system works - when it's employed. It's not universally 
employed. With a group like this, with people joining (and leaving) 
everyday, you gotta kinda hope that newbies read the FAQ that explains it 
all. Unfortunately, not all do - no, no, no, they're much to wise for that; 
FAQ's are for dummies... PEUW!
There are some "regulars" that still don't employ the system, 
("I don't need a to read the FAQ; I've been posting for years". 
Double PEUW!), so it's not just new members... The biggest problem 
lately is members on digest that respond to an "old message", which - in 
effect - screws up the proper order of the vine. Hey, when in doubt, visit 
the yahoo page; it's the most up-to-date.
This aint rocket science, kids...
(Frankly, I think most are too lazy to bother - but, that's 
just me, speaking from experience,)
 

I had missed the removal of one's own name 
aspect of this vine system. But one question: If there are no consequences 
for those who might repeatedly "kill" a vine, then what good can it possibly 
do us to know who is responsible. 
Mr. Skull
"Consequences" require a specific set of "actions" on someone's 
part - namely, moi. As sole owner/moderator of the Zappa list, that means I 
would have to (unbiasedly) track every vine that occurs here. Since we began 
the vine system, posts regarding them has become the major influx of 
mail.
I'm sorry, but I simply can't dedicate that much time to the 
vines. I still monitor every post made by a new member before it hits the 
boards; until a new member's "intent" has been made clear to me, none of you 
are bothered by extraneous poot. By doing this, I have eliminated all porn 
spam, chain mails, and other self-promotional crap that plagues yahoo 
groups. I believe my efforts have made the Zappa-List the friendliest, 
crap-free group going at yahoo. And that's as far as I care to take it, on 
the moderator end...
 
I think we know where the vines are and who kills them. 
The point is what action can be taken. You have to be seen to be fair, as we 
all have life difficulties from time to time. It shouldn't be 
a problem to let the list know your going to cause a delay...unless 
your pc dies...then what?
Mr. Skull
Here's the deal: The Zappa-List is your group. I only 
try to do what I think is best for the 700+ members we have. If the more 
active viners wish to have a greater deal of "control" (read: able to 
inflict consequences) of the workings of the group, I'm all for it and I 
welcome your private email(s) to that effect. {Don't send no boys, 
okay? Serious contributors only, please. And I gotta take a minute to thank 
JimL for holding down the fort for me in the past - you ROCK, 
dude!}
AFA what I recommend in the case of known (or suspected) "vine 
killers", if you all know who's killing off vines (Lord knows I have no 
clue), then simply move their name to the end of the list, or remove it 
altogether. If they respond and bitch, state your case in the most 
inoffensive manner possible {remember, personal attacks are simply not 
tolerated; use the facts as you see them, and keep

Re: [Zappa-List] vines - everyone PLEASE read.

2005-10-06 Thread mr_and_mrs_skull





Thank you for that. I actually meant something 
else though. 
I was meaning to communicate that others besides 
myself are expressing some sort of desire to have vines work without some of the 
failures we currently experience.
 
Mr. Skull

  I don't think anyone was 
  pointing to you.I think we know that the 'regulars' are reliable and we 
  can cut them some slack when they are a little late responding. Its those 
  where it stops dead are the pointee's...
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 7:55 
PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] vines - 
everyone PLEASE read.

Just for the record. Something of the comments 
you've responded to listed with my name below, are in fact either Jim's or 
someone else's. Maybe I'm misreading your tone, but I get the feeling of 
being singled out here. I may be mistaken. 
Point being, I'm not the only one who 
*clearly* expressed some feeling of frustration and disappointment over 
frequent 'vine failure'. As you pointed out this group belongs to all of us, 
I reserve the right from here on in to decline anyone who failed to keep 
their end of the bargain on moving a vine along
(AKA "moving the project forward"). I will do 
this *ONLY* on vines I start, and it will be done off-list\privately. And 
with the condition that once they uphold their commitment, I will gladly add 
them to the end of any vine I begin.
 
That's my "final solution"
 
Mr. Skull

  SOFA came up with this great new system that should make it easy 
  to track the vines. Seems to me that with a good system like this we could 
  easily determine who is killing the vines. For any one not familiar with 
  SOFA's vine method I took the liberty of posting it here for easy access. 
  http://www.regyptionstrut.com/vine.htmJim 
  L 
  The system works - when it's employed. It's not universally 
  employed. With a group like this, with people joining (and leaving) 
  everyday, you gotta kinda hope that newbies read the FAQ that explains it 
  all. Unfortunately, not all do - no, no, no, they're much to wise for 
  that; FAQ's are for dummies... PEUW!
  There are some "regulars" that still don't employ the system, 
  ("I don't need a to read the FAQ; I've been posting for years". 
  Double PEUW!), so it's not just new members... The biggest problem 
  lately is members on digest that respond to an "old message", which - in 
  effect - screws up the proper order of the vine. Hey, when in doubt, visit 
  the yahoo page; it's the most up-to-date.
  This aint rocket science, kids...
  (Frankly, I think most are too lazy to bother - but, that's 
  just me, speaking from experience,)
   
  
  I had missed the removal of one's own name 
  aspect of this vine system. But one question: If there are no consequences 
  for those who might repeatedly "kill" a vine, then what good can it 
  possibly do us to know who is responsible. 
  Mr. Skull
  "Consequences" require a specific set of "actions" on 
  someone's part - namely, moi. As sole owner/moderator of the Zappa list, 
  that means I would have to (unbiasedly) track every vine that occurs here. 
  Since we began the vine system, posts regarding them has become the major 
  influx of mail.
  I'm sorry, but I simply can't dedicate that much time to the 
  vines. I still monitor every post made by a new member before it hits the 
  boards; until a new member's "intent" has been made clear to me, none of 
  you are bothered by extraneous poot. By doing this, I have eliminated all 
  porn spam, chain mails, and other self-promotional crap that plagues yahoo 
  groups. I believe my efforts have made the Zappa-List the friendliest, 
  crap-free group going at yahoo. And that's as far as I care to take it, on 
  the moderator end...
   
  I think we know where the vines are and who kills them. 
  The point is what action can be taken. You have to be seen to be fair, as 
  we all have life difficulties from time to time. It shouldn't be 
  a problem to let the list know your going to cause a delay...unless 
  your pc dies...then what?
  Mr. Skull
  Here's the deal: The Zappa-List is your group. I only 
  try to do what I think is best for the 700+ members we have. If the more 
  active viners wish to have a greater deal of "control" (read: able to 
  inflict consequences) of the workings of the group, I'm all for it and I 
  welcome your private email(s) to that effect. {Don't send no boys, 
  okay? Serious contributors only, please. And I gotta take a minute to 
  thank JimL for holding down the fort for me in the past - you ROCK, 
  dude!}
  

Re: [Zappa-List] vines - everyone PLEASE read.

2005-10-06 Thread Richard





of courseI agree that's the main issuethe 
only guarantee of that is to make it an exclusive club of known, 
proven reliable members...I am not sure that's a good thing in many other 
ways though.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:43 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] vines - 
  everyone PLEASE read.
  
  Thank you for that. I actually meant something 
  else though. 
  I was meaning to communicate that others besides 
  myself are expressing some sort of desire to have vines work without some of 
  the failures we currently experience.
   
  Mr. Skull
  
I don't think anyone 
was pointing to you.I think we know that the 'regulars' are reliable and 
we can cut them some slack when they are a little late responding. Its those 
where it stops dead are the pointee's...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 7:55 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] vines - 
  everyone PLEASE read.
  
  Just for the record. Something of the 
  comments you've responded to listed with my name below, are in fact either 
  Jim's or someone else's. Maybe I'm misreading your tone, but I get the 
  feeling of being singled out here. I may be mistaken. 
  Point being, I'm not the only one who 
  *clearly* expressed some feeling of frustration and disappointment over 
  frequent 'vine failure'. As you pointed out this group belongs to all of 
  us, I reserve the right from here on in to decline anyone who failed to 
  keep their end of the bargain on moving a vine along
  (AKA "moving the project forward"). I will 
  do this *ONLY* on vines I start, and it will be done off-list\privately. 
  And with the condition that once they uphold their commitment, I will 
  gladly add them to the end of any vine I begin.
   
  That's my "final solution"
   
  Mr. Skull
  
SOFA came up with this great new system that should make it 
easy to track the vines. Seems to me that with a good system like this 
we could easily determine who is killing the vines. For any one not 
familiar with SOFA's vine method I took the liberty of posting it here 
for easy access. http://www.regyptionstrut.com/vine.htmJim 
L 
The system works - when it's employed. It's not universally 
employed. With a group like this, with people joining (and leaving) 
everyday, you gotta kinda hope that newbies read the FAQ that explains 
it all. Unfortunately, not all do - no, no, no, they're much to wise for 
that; FAQ's are for dummies... PEUW!
There are some "regulars" that still don't employ the 
system, ("I don't need a to read the FAQ; I've been posting for 
years". Double PEUW!), so it's not just new members... 
The biggest problem lately is members on digest that respond to an "old 
message", which - in effect - screws up the proper order of the vine. 
Hey, when in doubt, visit the yahoo page; it's the most 
up-to-date.
This aint rocket science, kids...
(Frankly, I think most are too lazy to bother - but, that's 
just me, speaking from experience,)
 

I had missed the removal of one's own name 
aspect of this vine system. But one question: If there are no 
consequences for those who might repeatedly "kill" a vine, then what 
good can it possibly do us to know who is responsible. 
Mr. Skull
"Consequences" require a specific set of "actions" on 
someone's part - namely, moi. As sole owner/moderator of the Zappa list, 
that means I would have to (unbiasedly) track every vine that occurs 
here. Since we began the vine system, posts regarding them has become 
the major influx of mail.
I'm sorry, but I simply can't dedicate that much time to 
the vines. I still monitor every post made by a new member before it 
hits the boards; until a new member's "intent" has been made clear to 
me, none of you are bothered by extraneous poot. By doing this, I have 
eliminated all porn spam, chain mails, and other self-promotional crap 
that plagues yahoo groups. I believe my efforts have made the Zappa-List 
the friendliest, crap-free group going at yahoo. And that's as far as I 
care to take it, on the moderator end...
 
I think we know where the vines are and who kills 
them. The point is what action can be taken. You have to be seen to be 
fair, as we all have life difficulties from time to time. It 
shouldn't be a problem to let the list know your going to cause a 
   

Re: [Zappa-List] vines - everyone PLEASE read.

2005-10-06 Thread mr_and_mrs_skull





If that is the only solution, then I agree, it's 
doubtful to be a good thing. Nothing worse than an insular elite. Ugh, shudder 
the thought.
 
Skull

  of courseI agree 
  that's the main issuethe only guarantee of that is to make it an 
  exclusive club of known, proven reliable members...I am not sure that's a 
  good thing in many other ways though.
  
- Original Message - 
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To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:43 
PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] vines - 
everyone PLEASE read.

Thank you for that. I actually meant something 
else though. 
I was meaning to communicate that others 
besides myself are expressing some sort of desire to have vines work without 
some of the failures we currently experience.
 
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[Zappa-List] Re: New VO: FZ & MOI w/ Zubin Metha & LA Phil. Orch Audio

2005-10-06 Thread magmahawk
i know i was also on this vine but my name seem to be gone ??
it think it's sometimes all a bit too messy as also lots of persons don't 
truncate the messages.
anyway i add myself now again !!
thanks
Andre
Netherlands


><< milhouse481 << Luis (Ar)[EMAIL PROTECTED] << JoeDP (USA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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>Bart (Pol) << Neil (UK) << Andre NL <<


>Thanks to thierry I can pass this copy on to milhouse.
>Thanks, Michael, for launching this one (as well).
>Regards,
>Conehead-BE
>
>Details:
>--
>Hi Folks,
>
>a bit of FZ Audio to Share
>
>Michael
>--
>
>FRANK ZAPPA & THE MOTHERS OF INVENTION
>W/ ZUBIN METHA & THE LOS ANGELES PHILHARMONIC ORCHESTRA
>CONTEMPO 70
>
>May 15,1970
>Pauley Pavillion, UCLA
>Los Angeles
>California
>
>== The Mothers Of Invention Spring 1970 ==
>FZ, Ray Collins, Jeff Simmons, Aynsley Dunbar, Billy Mundi, Ian
>Underwood, Don Preston, Motorhead Sherwood
>
>
>SETLIST
>
>w/ The L.A Philharmonic (*)
>My Boyfriend's Back, I'm Gonna Bust His Head, Tiny Sick Tears, Agon,
>Call Any Vegetable (including Integrales), Blowing Discordant Sounds*,
>200 Motels* (including themes from Pound For A Brown, Oh No,
>Envelopes, Little House I Used To Live In, Tuna Sandwich, Redneck
>Eats, World's Greatest Sinner, Holiday In Berlin/Inca Roads theme,
>Strictly Genteel, Duke Of Prunes, Who Needs The Peace Corps?, Pound
>For A Brown, Oh No, Eric Dolphy Memorial Barbecue), King Kong* (incl.
>Integrales), Plastic People, Oh No/Orange County Lumber Truck (incl.
>My Linda Lu)
>
>
>
>AUD MASTER REEL > REEL > REEL > M-AUDIO TRANSIT >
>COOL EDIT > CD WAVE EDITOR > FLAC




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[Zappa-List] VO - Steve Allen Show on DVD and Much More

2005-10-06 Thread Nokeating4


Hey, remember this one from a while back?  I received it from Luis in Argentina, and I'm sending it out to Scott Burnett, in Utah.
 
Cheers,
John
 
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Re: [Zappa-List] vines - everyone PLEASE read.

2005-10-06 Thread jcoonk





Whoa, time out!
 
Maybe I'm misreading your tone, but I get the 
feeling of being singled out here. I may be mistaken.
Oh yes, my tone was not intended to be accusatory in any way!
I have nothing but the utmost respect for you, Mr. Skull; you're an adroit 
poster, and a valued member of the List. Believe that no offense whatsoever 
should be taken from my diatribe; I wasn't even bashing those who have fallen 
short in the vine situation... I was trying (albeit poorly) to relate how 
difficult it is to assess someone's intent, and what to do when you suspect 
another member of malintent. Actually, my rant was more a plea for help than 
anything else.
 
Point being, I'm not the only one who 
*clearly* expressed some feeling of frustration and disappointment over frequent 
'vine failure'. 
Point taken... I responded because you weren't the only one (had you been, 
I would have contacted you directly, rather than take up the group's time with 
the issue).
 

As you pointed out this group belongs to all 
of us, I reserve the right from here on in to decline anyone who failed to keep 
their end of the bargain on moving a vine along
(AKA "moving the project forward"). I will do 
this *ONLY* on vines I start, and it will be done off-list\privately. And with 
the condition that once they uphold their commitment, I will gladly add them to 
the end of any vine I begin.
That's my "final solution"
Mr. Skull
Okay with me...the group does belong to everybody. But what about the 
vines that already exist? Like this recent post from NoKeating: "Hey, 
remember this one from a while back?  I received it from Luis in Argentina, 
and I'm sending it out to Scott Burnett, in Utah.
Cheers,
John"
I wonder because of this recent post: 
"I received the MITB Cds from Brazil and after 2 days I 
forwarded them to Richard Hall-US (who had been very quick in sending me his 
snail mail address); then... silence. So I sent another set of CDs to the next 
in line, Mr. Scott Burnett (it was August 2nd, and I was leaving for my 
summer holidays).  When I returned back from vacation, I checked the e-mail 
and saw no messages from Scott confirming he had received and forwarded the 
packet. So I asked if the CDs had gone lost (I was ready to make a third 
attempt!) and finally Scott emerged saying (on Aug. 31st) that he was going to 
send MITB to Cyrano
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/message/9958
Then, no sign of life.
Music Would Be The Best
marco"
Ya see my predicament? I don't know what to think here. That was why I said 
that "consequences" for errant viners is a difficult thing to dispense... Many 
of us here come and go as we please, which is the way it should be. I, on the 
other hand, have to watch everything. Sometimes it gets a bit overwhelming. And 
in a couple of weeks I'll begin a new job that promises to keep me even further 
out of the loop!
So, I apologize that you mistook my tone as an indictment.
And I want to again invite anyone who'd like to get "more involved" with 
this mewling toddler we call the List to email me privately. I could stand a 
couple of trusted 'Sergeant's helping run this show.
Speaking of which, I have to be gone for a week starting this Saturday. 
JimL, could you do me a favor?
Regards,
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RE: [Zappa-List] VO - Steve Allen Show on DVD and Much More

2005-10-06 Thread Jim L










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RE: [Zappa-List] VO - Steve Allen Show on DVD and Much More

2005-10-06 Thread Jim L










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