Re: [zfs-discuss] can anyone help me?
Hi Hernan, after looking at your posts my suggestion would be to try the OpenSolaris 2008.05 Live CD and to import your pool using the CD. That CD is nv86 + some extra fixes. You will have to use 'pfexec' when you are trying to import the pool. ( www.opensolaris.com ) I read this and I am not sure how you did it. S10U4 and was recently upgraded to snv85 But an upgrade from Sol10 to NV is untested and nothing I would recommend at all. A fresh install of snvXY is what I know works. Cheers, Henrik Hernan Freschi wrote: fwiw, here are my previous posts: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=61301tstart=30 http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=62120tstart=0 This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] SMC Webconsole 3.1 and ZFS Administration 1.0 - stacktraces in snv_b89
A further update. With B90 and UFS as root partition, the ZFS administration GUI worked fine. So I presented two additional disks and proceeded to create a zpool. The creation of the pool worked fine however the ZFS administration interface is now broken with the same error as in the original post. So to summarise, ZFS GUI adminstration seems to be broken once a ZFS pool exists on the system with at least B90. Is this a bug or is there a workaround? Cheers, JP This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] SMC Webconsole 3.1 and ZFS Administration 1.0 - stacktraces in snv_b89
I checked - this system has a UFS root. When installed as snv_84 and then LU'd to snv_89, and when I fiddled with these packages from various other releases, it had the stacktrace instead of the ZFS admin GUI (or the well-known smcwebserver restart effect for the older packages). . Were your UFS and ZFS setups different in packaging? No. These were straight vanilla installs of SXCE B90 with Entire Distrubtion. With my original post I thought it might of been related to ZFS as the root partition but with further testing that is not the case at all... Cheers, JP This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problems with USB Storage devices
Paulo Soeiro wrote: Greetings, I was experimenting with zfs, and i made the following test, i shutdown the computer during a write operation in a mirrored usb storage filesystem. Here is my configuration NGS USB 2.0 Minihub 4 3 USB Silicom Power Storage Pens 1 GB each These are the ports: hub devices /---\ | port 2 | port 1 | | c10t0d0p0 | c9t0d0p0 | - | port 4 | port 4 | | c12t0d0p0 | c11t0d0p0| \/ Here is the problem: 1)First i create a mirror with port2 and port1 devices zpool create myPool mirror c10t0d0p0 c9t0d0p0 -bash-3.2# zpool status pool: myPool state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM myPool ONLINE 0 0 0 mirror ONLINE 0 0 0 c10t0d0p0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c9t0d0p0 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors pool: rpool state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM rpool ONLINE 0 0 0 c5t0d0s0 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors 2)zfs create myPool/myfs 3)created a random file (file.txt - more or less 100MB size) digest -a md5 file.txt 3f9d17531d6103ec75ba9762cb250b4c 4)While making a second copy of the file: cp file.txt test I've shutdown the computer while the file was being copied. And restarted the computer again. And here is the result: -bash-3.2# zpool status pool: myPool state: UNAVAIL status: One or more devices could not be used because the label is missing or invalid. There are insufficient replicas for the pool to continue functioning. action: Destroy and re-create the pool from a backup source. see: http://www.sun.com/msg/ZFS-8000-5E scrub: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM myPool UNAVAIL 0 0 0 insufficient replicas mirror UNAVAIL 0 0 0 insufficient replicas c12t0d0p0 OFFLINE 0 0 0 c9t0d0p0 FAULTED 0 0 0 corrupted data pool: rpool state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM rpool ONLINE 0 0 0 c5t0d0s0 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors --- I was expecting that only one of the files was corrupted, not the all the filesystem. This looks exactly like the problem I had (thread USB stick unavailable after restart) and the answer I got was that you can't relay on the HUB ... I haven't tried another HUB yet but will eventually test the Adaptec XHub 4 (AUH-4000) which is on the HCL list... ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Project Hardware
Keith Bierman wrote: On May 30, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Erik Trimble wrote: The only drawback of the older Socket 940 Opterons is that they don't support the hardware VT extensions, so running a Windows guest under xVM on them isn't currently possible. From the VirtualBox manual, page 11 • No hardware virtualization required. VirtualBox does not require processor features built into newer hardware like VT-x (on Intel processors) or AMD-V (on AMD processors). As opposed to many other virtualization solutions, you can therefore use VirtualBox even on older hardware where these features are not present. In fact, VirtualBox’s sophisticated software techniques are typically faster than hardware virtualization, although it is still possible to enable hard- ware virtualization on a per-VM basis. Only for some exotic guest operating systems like OS/2, hardware virtualization is required. I've been running windows under OpenSolaris on an aged 32-bit Dell. I'm morally certain it lacks the hardware support, and in any event, the VBOX configuration is set to avoid using the VT extensions anyway. Runs fine. Not the fastest box on the planet ... but it's got limited DRAM. That is correct. VirtualBox does _not_ require the VT extensions. I was referring to xVM, which I'm still taking as synonymous with the Xen-based system. xVM _does_ require the VT hardware extensions to run guest OSes in an unmodified form, which currently includes all flavors of Windows. -- Erik Trimble Java System Support Mailstop: usca22-123 Phone: x17195 Santa Clara, CA Timezone: US/Pacific (GMT-0800) ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Darryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my first post here, and i hope it is ok that i posted in this thread. I have been doing a bit of reading on the solaris platforms, and seem to be inclined to try out the open solaris os or solaris 10. My only worry is that my lack of knowledge with the command line may make this difficult regarding trouble shooting. It seems fairly straighforward creating zpools etc, but maybe nexenta is better suited for me (i read about some memory limitation with nexenta?). My end goal is to use this box, to store my media files. Connect it to my airport extreme router via gigabit ether, and depending on situation access data via wifi (smb share) or ether via router (iscsi), both on a Mac. Is it possible to do iscsi over wifi, aside from speed limitations of the wireless, i wanted to format the drive in hfs format. My proposed build thus far... CPU (39.99) AMD Athlon 64 LE-1600 2.2GHz 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 45W Single-Core Processor - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16819103199 MB $134.99 ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16813131013 PSU $54.99 Rosewill RP550-2 ATX12V v2.01 550W Power Supply 115/230 V CSA,UL,TUV, FCC - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16817182017 Sata power converter $1.89 Nippon Labs 4-Pin PC power to 2 x SATA Converter Cables Model POW-SATA-2 - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16812816015 Ram $84.99 G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16820231122 Video Card $19.99 ASUS EN6200LE/TC256/TD/64 GeForce 6200LE 256MB(64MB on Board) 32-bit DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/...tem=N82E16814121019R DVD Player $17.99 Sony NEC Optiarc Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1615/B2s - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16827101131 80gig sata drive for the OS, and 4 500gig seagate 7200.10 drives. While planning this out, it seemed that all of the parts i chose are supported by solaris, please correct me if im wrong. Do you see any issues with this setup? I'm looking to build this box as cheaply as possible, BUT as reliable as possible as well. (any other suggestions for places that may have parts cheaper? ) Thank you all for your patience, this is quite a steep learning curve! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss I'd strongly consider a second 80gb drive and raid-1 your operating system drive. While you won't lose any ZFS data if it goes down, rebuilding a server, especially after custom configuration, can be a pain. Restoring from backup even more so :D ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
[zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!
This is my first post here, and i hope it is ok that i posted in this thread. I have been doing a bit of reading on the solaris platforms, and seem to be inclined to try out the open solaris os or solaris 10. My only worry is that my lack of knowledge with the command line may make this difficult regarding trouble shooting. It seems fairly straighforward creating zpools etc, but maybe nexenta is better suited for me (i read about some memory limitation with nexenta?). My end goal is to use this box, to store my media files. Connect it to my airport extreme router via gigabit ether, and depending on situation access data via wifi (smb share) or ether via router (iscsi), both on a Mac. Is it possible to do iscsi over wifi, aside from speed limitations of the wireless, i wanted to format the drive in hfs format. My proposed build thus far... CPU (39.99) AMD Athlon 64 LE-1600 2.2GHz 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 45W Single-Core Processor - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16819103199 MB $134.99 ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16813131013 PSU $54.99 Rosewill RP550-2 ATX12V v2.01 550W Power Supply 115/230 V CSA,UL,TUV, FCC - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16817182017 Sata power converter $1.89 Nippon Labs 4-Pin PC power to 2 x SATA Converter Cables Model POW-SATA-2 - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16812816015 Ram $84.99 G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16820231122 Video Card $19.99 ASUS EN6200LE/TC256/TD/64 GeForce 6200LE 256MB(64MB on Board) 32-bit DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/...tem=N82E16814121019R DVD Player $17.99 Sony NEC Optiarc Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1615/B2s - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16827101131 80gig sata drive for the OS, and 4 500gig seagate 7200.10 drives. While planning this out, it seemed that all of the parts i chose are supported by solaris, please correct me if im wrong. Do you see any issues with this setup? I'm looking to build this box as cheaply as possible, BUT as reliable as possible as well. (any other suggestions for places that may have parts cheaper? ) Thank you all for your patience, this is quite a steep learning curve! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Darryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to do iscsi over wifi, aside from speed limitations of the wireless, i wanted to format the drive in hfs format. It should be, it's just IP. But why not use CIFS to share it instead? It'd be more portable across OSes and just as fast. PSU $54.99 Rosewill RP550-2 ATX12V v2.01 550W Power Supply 115/230 V CSA,UL,TUV, FCC - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16817182017 I'd buy something else, honestly. The Corsair 650TX http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005 is only $100, has more power, eliminates the need for the power adapters you've got listed, would leave more room for future expansion, and it's probably more efficient too. Will ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] can anyone help me?
Thanks for your answer, after looking at your posts my suggestion would be to try the OpenSolaris 2008.05 Live CD and to import your pool using the CD. That CD is nv86 + some extra fixes. I upgraded the snv85 to snv89 to see if it helped, but it didn't. I'll try to download the 2008.05 CD again (the ISO for that is one of the things trapped in the pool I can't import). But an upgrade from Sol10 to NV is untested and nothing I would recommend at all. A fresh install of snvXY is what I know works. Didn't know that. I was simply following the N+2 rule, upgrading 10 to 11. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problems with USB Storage devices
Thommy, If I read correctly your post stated that the pools did not automount on startup, not that they would go corrupt. It seems to me that Paulo is actually experiencing a corrupt fs -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommy M. Sent: 02 June 2008 13:19 To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problems with USB Storage devices Paulo Soeiro wrote: Greetings, I was experimenting with zfs, and i made the following test, i shutdown the computer during a write operation in a mirrored usb storage filesystem. Here is my configuration NGS USB 2.0 Minihub 4 3 USB Silicom Power Storage Pens 1 GB each These are the ports: hub devices /---\ | port 2 | port 1 | | c10t0d0p0 | c9t0d0p0 | - | port 4 | port 4 | | c12t0d0p0 | c11t0d0p0| \/ Here is the problem: 1)First i create a mirror with port2 and port1 devices zpool create myPool mirror c10t0d0p0 c9t0d0p0 -bash-3.2# zpool status pool: myPool state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM myPool ONLINE 0 0 0 mirror ONLINE 0 0 0 c10t0d0p0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c9t0d0p0 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors pool: rpool state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM rpool ONLINE 0 0 0 c5t0d0s0 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors 2)zfs create myPool/myfs 3)created a random file (file.txt - more or less 100MB size) digest -a md5 file.txt 3f9d17531d6103ec75ba9762cb250b4c 4)While making a second copy of the file: cp file.txt test I've shutdown the computer while the file was being copied. And restarted the computer again. And here is the result: -bash-3.2# zpool status pool: myPool state: UNAVAIL status: One or more devices could not be used because the label is missing or invalid. There are insufficient replicas for the pool to continue functioning. action: Destroy and re-create the pool from a backup source. see: http://www.sun.com/msg/ZFS-8000-5E scrub: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM myPool UNAVAIL 0 0 0 insufficient replicas mirror UNAVAIL 0 0 0 insufficient replicas c12t0d0p0 OFFLINE 0 0 0 c9t0d0p0 FAULTED 0 0 0 corrupted data pool: rpool state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM rpool ONLINE 0 0 0 c5t0d0s0 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors --- I was expecting that only one of the files was corrupted, not the all the filesystem. This looks exactly like the problem I had (thread USB stick unavailable after restart) and the answer I got was that you can't relay on the HUB ... I haven't tried another HUB yet but will eventually test the Adaptec XHub 4 (AUH-4000) which is on the HCL list... ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008, Darryl wrote: My end goal is to use this box, to store my media files. Connect it to my airport extreme router via gigabit ether, and depending on situation access data via wifi (smb share) or ether via router (iscsi), both on a Mac. Is it possible to do iscsi over wifi, aside from speed limitations of the wireless, i wanted to format the drive in hfs format. You should consider using SMB or NFS and storing the files in native ZFS filesystem format. I think that this would work better for ZFS snapshots than the single large file used by iSCSI. The files could be shared by more than one host, including being visible to your server for administrative purposes. ZFS snapshots of iSCSI disks are not assured to be coherent from the perspective of the remote host which uses it and will be more similar to what you get when you abruply unplug the power from your remote host unless you take care to shut down the remote host prior to snapshotting. Certainly Apple's journalling will help here, but journalling works by losing some data. Bob == Bob Friesenhahn [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/ ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Project Hardware
On Jun 2, 2008, at 3:24 AM 6/2/, Erik Trimble wrote: Keith Bierman wrote: On May 30, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Erik Trimble wrote: The only drawback of the older Socket 940 Opterons is that they don't support the hardware VT extensions, so running a Windows guest under xVM on them isn't currently possible. That is correct. VirtualBox does _not_ require the VT extensions. I was referring to xVM, which I'm still taking as synonymous with the Xen-based system. xVM _does_ require the VT hardware extensions to run guest OSes in an unmodified form, which currently includes all flavors of Windows. Ah, Marketing rebranding befuddles again. It's Sun xVM VirtualBox (tm) as best I can tell from sun.com. So I assumed you were using the xVM in generic sense, not as Xen vs. Virtual Box. -- Keith H. Bierman [EMAIL PROTECTED] | AIM kbiermank 5430 Nassau Circle East | Cherry Hills Village, CO 80113 | 303-997-2749 speaking for myself* Copyright 2008 ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!
Use froogle for price checking. I don't know what chipsets are supported by opensolaris, but if I were you I'd be looking hard at motherboards with as much integrated as possible. For instance, for less than $100 you can get a mini-atx motherboard with 6 SATA ports and onboard video. I found this out just by clicking the appropriate categories on the left side of newegg. Example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENEN=2010200022+107192530name=NVIDIA+GeForce+8000 Pair a motherboard like that with the cheapest processor possible, a case that comes with a power supply, and a hard drive bay for the 5.25 case bays, and you're off like a bride's pajamas! I'd get wd6400aaks or wd7500aacs drives. the aacs (GP) drives are 5400rpm and vibrate less, which will cause less noise problems in most cases, if you know what I mean. As a bonus, some of the consumer AMD chipsets are compatible with unbuffered ECC memory, so you can use this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146525 . The memory you chose is not what you need. DDR2 667mhz * 2 is 1333mhz, which is a faster bus speed than the processor you chose. So you won't even use all the speed of 667 memory, not to mention the 800 memory you chose. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] What is a vdev?
As a side bar, since you cannot remove a vdev, you can really shot oneself in the foot if not careful (as I recently did). I had a X4500 system with (4) RAIDz2 vdevs in one pool. When adding a disk to the system, I forgot to add it as a spare and I was left with a stripe across the RAIDz2 sets + a single disk. I had to blow everything away... Any information on when disk evacuation will make its way into ZFS? Robert On May 25, 2008, at 3:11 PM, Kyle McDonald wrote: Orvar Korvar wrote: Ok, so i make one vdev out of 8 discs. And I combine all vdevs into one large zpool? Is it correct? I have 8 port SATA card. I have 4 drives into one zpool. That is one vdev, right? Now I can add 4 new drives and make them into one zpool. And now I combine both zpool into one zpool? That can not be right? I dont get vdevs. Can someone explain? A 'vdev' is the basic unit that a zpool is made of. There are several types of vdevs: Single device type: This vdev is made from one storage device - Generally a Hard disk drive, but there are other possibilities. This type of vdev has *no* data redundancy, but ZFS will still be able to notice errors due to checksumming every block. ZFS will also keep redundant meta-data on this one device, so meta data has the ability to survive block failures, but nothing will save data in this type of vdev from a full device failure. The size of this vdev is the size of the storage device it is made from. Mirrored type: This type of vdev is made from 2 or more storage devices, All data is written to all devices, so there is data redundancy. The more devices in the mirror the more copies of the data, and the more full device failures the vdev can survive. The size of this vdev is the size of the smallest storage device in the mirror. While devices (copies) can be added and removed from the mirror vdev, this only changes the redundancy, and not the size. Though if the smallest storage device in the mirror is replaced with a larger one, the size of the mirror should grow to the size of the new smallest device in the mirror. RAIDZ or RAIDZ1 type: This type of vdev is made of 3 or more storage devices. This type of vdev has data redundancy, and can survive the loss of one device in the vdev at a time. The available space on a RAIDZ vdev is the size of the smallest storage device in the vdev times one less than the number of devices in the vdev ( minsize*(n-1) ) because 1 devices worth of space is used for parity information to provide the redundancy. This vdev type cannot (currently) have it's size changes by adding or removing (changing 'n') devices to/from it. However it can have it's available space increased by replacing the current smallest device with a larger device (changing 'minsize') so that some other device now becomes the 'smallest device'. NOTE: if the vdev started with identical sized devices, you'll need to replace all of them before you'll see any increase in the available space since the 'size of the smallest device' will still be the same untill they are all replaced. Posts by knowledgable people on this mailing list have suggested that there is little benefit to having 10 or more devices in a RAIDZ vdev., and that devices should be split into multiple vdevs to keep the number in anyone in the single digits. RAIDZ2 type: This type of vdev is made of 4 or more storage devices. It is basically just like RAIDZ1, except it has enoug redundancy to survive 2 device failures at the same time, and the available space is the size of the smallest device times *two* less than number of devices in the vdev ( minsize*(n-2) ) becuase 2 devices worth of space are used to provide the redundancy. Changing the space in this type of vdev is limited the same way that a RAIDZ vdev is. As noted above, the term 'Storage Device' in these descriptoins is generally a hard disk drive, but it can be other things. ZFS allows you to use files on another filesystem, slices (solaris partitions) of a drive, fdisk partitions, Hardware RAID LUNs, iSCSI targets, USB thumb drives, etc. A Zpool is made up of more than one of these vdev's. The size of a zpool is the sum of the sizes of the vdevs it is made from. The zpool doesn't add any redundancy itself, the vdev's are responsible for that. Which is why, while a zpool can be made of vdev's of differing types, it's not a good idea. The 'zpool create' command will warn you if you try to use a mix of redundant and non-redundant vdev types in the same pool. This is really a bad idea since you can't control what data is placed on the redundant vdev's and which is places on the non- redundant vdev's. If you have data that has different redundancy needs, you're better off creating more than one zpool. Vdev's can be added to a zpool, but not removed (yet?) Therefore to increase the size of a of zpool, you have to either add another full vdev to it, or replace one (or
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs equivalent of ufsdump and ufsrestore
| My impression is that the only real problem with incrementals from | ufsdump or star is that you would like to have a database that tells | you in which incremental a specific file with a specific time stamp | may be found. In our situation here, this is done by the overall backup system driving ufsdump et al (Amanda in our case). I think this is the best way, because you don't necessarily want to keep the index on the machine that you are backing up. - cks ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs equivalent of ufsdump and ufsrestore
Chris Siebenmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | My impression is that the only real problem with incrementals from | ufsdump or star is that you would like to have a database that tells | you in which incremental a specific file with a specific time stamp | may be found. In our situation here, this is done by the overall backup system driving ufsdump et al (Amanda in our case). I think this is the best way, because you don't necessarily want to keep the index on the machine that you are backing up. You would need to push the Amanda people to support star if you like to backup a filesystem other than UFS. Currently Amanda will use GNU tar with all well known problems with GNU tar based backups (e.g. GNU tar will not always accept it's own archives for restore). Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] /var/sadm on zfs?
On my heavily-patched Solaris 10U4 system, the size of /var (on UFS) has gotten way out of hand due to the remarkably large growth of /var/sadm. Can this directory tree be safely moved to a zfs filesystem? How much of /var can be moved to a zfs filesystem without causing boot or runtime issues? It seems your original question hasn't been answered yet... :-) I have used U4 with the complete /var on zfs for quite a while and have not encountered any problems. My usual setup for mirrored root disks is: what where how / /dev/md/dsk/d0 ufs swap /dev/md/dsk/d1 swap ROOT cXt0d0s3 + cXt1d0s3zpool The ROOT pool contains /var, /opt, and /export. I set both quota and reservation for /var to be on the safe side. I have not done any stress testing with zones, but normal use is absolutely trouble-free. HTH -- Volker -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Sun Solaris Brandt Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 45 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J. H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:25 AM, Darryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MB $134.99 ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16813131013 [..] Video Card $19.99 ASUS EN6200LE/TC256/TD/64 GeForce 6200LE 256MB(64MB on Board) 32-bit DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/...tem=N82E16814121019R Consider a motherboard based on the R690G/SB600 chipset or the nVidia 7050. The ASUS M2A-VM (690) is $70 and has on board video. I think only the sound is not supported. Likewise the nVidia ASUS M2N-VM (7050) is $70. I believe both have only 4 SATA ports, but that should be ok for your build. -B -- Brandon High [EMAIL PROTECTED] The good is the enemy of the best. - Nietzsche ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS sharing options for Windows
Justin, Thanks for the reply In the environment I currently work in, the powers that be are almost completely anti unix. Installing the nfs client on all machines would take a real good sales pitch. None the less I am still I've pro unix I'm against putting NFS on all the PC clients as well. Putting Samba on the server and leaving the PCs alone will be much easier to manage then NFS clients. I suspect the performance and security on the PCs would be better too. Samba can authenticate to AD or have it own seperate passowrd setup. If it's a Windows shop, use AD. I've not played with the CIFS in ZFS yet, but I have older Solaris installs and Samba works well enough that I don't have a need to switch yet. playing with the client in our sandbox. As I install this on a test machine a question popped into my mind. Does this passthrough AD credentials? How does one control authentication? I haven't read anything on this yet, and will do some searching, just thought I'd pick your brain a bit. Samba does. I think CIFS in ZFS would be done with PAM? The biggest reason I am drawn to ZFS is zpool. I like the idea I can keep adding raidz arrays to a large shared pool when ever I want. With iscsi sharing I am forced to make Volumes I don't know that I really like this idea outside of the scope of making iSCSI OS partitions. For network files and shares I really want to be able utilize snapshots and other features of the ZFS filesystem. If I share out via SMB do the files not sit on the zfs FS and get captured in snapshots indiviually? My Snapshots are done in ZFS on the host. understanding was it just uses the CIFS protocol, but you still gain the benefits of the ZFS File System on the backend. The tough thing is trying to make this fit well in a Windows world. Not really. Samba makes all the OS stuff transparent to the windows user. Just like in Linux. The big change is getting an ECC, snapshotting filesystem on the host. -Craig sharesmb presents ntfs to windows, so you're still hampered by that file system's 'features' such as lots of broadcast packets and a long timeout. One other option you should consider is using NFS, for which you can install a windows client. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324055 or google 'nfs windows client' justin This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problems with USB Storage devices
Justin Vassallo wrote: Thommy, If I read correctly your post stated that the pools did not automount on startup, not that they would go corrupt. It seems to me that Paulo is actually experiencing a corrupt fs Nah, I also had indications of corrupted data if you read my posts. But the data was there after I fiddled with the sticks and exported/imported the pool. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!
AGHH thank you all for your responses! Took me a while to figure out this forum, as i was getting email responses and wasn't sure if i needed to reply here, so i apologize to those i emailed personally!! As advised by Brandon, the miniatx boards would have a lower power consumption, so i think i may have to go that route. So with this in mind, going to have to look for a supported board with all of my requirements. I have read that PSU's that come with cases are far from reliable? Is this truly the case? Once i set my mind on one thing i get new points of view :) I'm starting to purchase parts that i know will be universal (ie ram), so that i spread out the cost :) Can anyone comment on OS X compatibility with opensolaris for time machine, and regular shares? THANK YOU to all of you for your time and continued patience. This will be my first build if you haven't noticed... Darryl This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
[zfs-discuss] how to migrating from UFS in a short time.
In our system, we need to migrating from UFS in a short time. according to the ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide. before migration, we should unshared the UFS, and then umount the ZFS,and then do migration, which means during migration, the service on the machine should stop. but we can't afford the operation for too long time. what can i do? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Project Hardware
(2) You want a 64-bit CPU. So that probably rules out your P4 machines, unless they were extremely late-model P4s with the EM64T features. Given that file-serving alone is relatively low-CPU, you can get away with practically any 64-bit capable CPU made in the last 4 years. Assuming you're topped out at 4GB RAM by your motherboard, how much difference does 32bit vs 64bit make? Some of the old (cheap) SCSI cards I have only have 32 bit drivers on x86. The cards supported in the 64bit kernel I have to buy, maybe for more then I paid for my motherboard+cpu+RAM. So I'm curious about that point. (5) external cases/enclosures are expensive, but nice. The bang-for-buck is in the workgroup server case, which (besides being a PC case) generally holds 8-10 drives for about $300 or so. Even more bang for the buck: PC case with power supply 42 SATA cables SATA to slot bracket cables disk drive power adapters to SATA power adapters 1-2 120mm fans Bolt the drives into the case. Plug in the power adapters Bolt the SATA to slot brackets in Plug the SATA connectors into the drives. Mount the fan(s) in the case so it pulls air across the drives. Bolt the box up. Now you have drives in a box with SATA ports out the back. Now plug the 42 cables into your server in the SATA ports and feed them out a hole in the case. I label the port numbers on the cables. Plug the 42 cables into the SATA ports of the drives in a box. Power the drives in a box up before your server. I've found this works. SATA isn't sensitive to setup as SCSI was in the past. You did mention this was for a home lab right? I've been running this way in my servers for 4 years. If the solution you really want is an external disk enclosure hooked to some sort of a driver/head machine, check out used/off-lease IBM or HP opteron workstations, which tend to go for $500 or so, loaded. Sun v20z and IBM e326m 1U rackmount servers are in the same price range. -- Erik Trimble Java System Support This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Darryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read that PSU's that come with cases are far from reliable? Is this truly the case? Inexpensive cases have inexpensive power supplies. Most of the Antec cases come with good power supplies. I have a Thermaltake Matrix case that came with a PSU and it's been reliable for 2 years. I believe the case and PSU was about $100. For my most recent build I looked at Silent PC Review and went with a Corsair 520W PSU based on their testing. -B -- Brandon High [EMAIL PROTECTED] The good is the enemy of the best. - Nietzsche ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
[zfs-discuss] install opensolaris on raidz
Hi, Using the opensolaris installer I've created a raidz array from two 500GB hdds, but the installer keeps seening two hdds, not the array I've just made. How do I install opensolaris on raidz array? Thanks! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] install opensolaris on raidz
Alex wrote: Hi, Using the opensolaris installer I've created a raidz array from two 500GB hdds, but the installer keeps seening two hdds, not the array I've just made. How do I install opensolaris on raidz array? You don't. Today, only simple or mirrored vdevs are usable for ZFS boot devices. -- richard ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
[zfs-discuss] Moving pool to new controller?
Hi, I'm running snv_86 on a Tyan S2882-D. This board has an onboard Sil3114 SATA controller which I have been using for my ZFS pool. Now I am trying to use Xen, and I am told that it doesn't work with IDE mode disk drivers; but the 3114 doesn't seem to have a native SATA mode (the BIOS just offers Ultra and RAID modes). Besides, the 3114 is said to be slow and maybe a little flaky. So okay, I can plug in a controller card. (I have an Adaptec 1420SA handy -- would that work?) But then comes the next question: how do I move the pool to the new controller? Hand-editing /etc/zfs/zpool.cache seems, uh, daunting :) -- Scott This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Moving pool to new controller?
On 02 June, 2008 - Scott L. Burson sent me these 0,8K bytes: Hi, I'm running snv_86 on a Tyan S2882-D. This board has an onboard Sil3114 SATA controller which I have been using for my ZFS pool. Now I am trying to use Xen, and I am told that it doesn't work with IDE mode disk drivers; but the 3114 doesn't seem to have a native SATA mode (the BIOS just offers Ultra and RAID modes). Besides, the 3114 is said to be slow and maybe a little flaky. So okay, I can plug in a controller card. (I have an Adaptec 1420SA handy -- would that work?) But then comes the next question: how do I move the pool to the new controller? Hand-editing /etc/zfs/zpool.cache seems, uh, daunting :) zpool export blah move stuff zpool import blah /Tomas -- Tomas Ögren, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.acc.umu.se/~stric/ |- Student at Computing Science, University of Umeå `- Sysadmin at {cs,acc}.umu.se ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] install opensolaris on raidz
On 02 June, 2008 - Richard Elling sent me these 0,5K bytes: Alex wrote: Hi, Using the opensolaris installer I've created a raidz array from two 500GB hdds, but the installer keeps seening two hdds, not the array I've just made. How do I install opensolaris on raidz array? You don't. Today, only simple or mirrored vdevs are usable for ZFS boot devices. A two disk raidz has no advantages over a two disk mirror, but it does have disadvantages (slower and you can't boot from it ;) /Tomas -- Tomas Ögren, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.acc.umu.se/~stric/ |- Student at Computing Science, University of Umeå `- Sysadmin at {cs,acc}.umu.se ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Moving pool to new controller?
zpool export blah move stuff zpool import blah Great, thanks, sorry for the FAQ :) Would still like advice on the 1420SA. -- Scott This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!
Brandon High wrote: Inexpensive cases have inexpensive power supplies. Most of the Antec cases come with good power supplies. I have a Thermaltake Matrix case that came with a PSU and it's been reliable for 2 years. I believe the case and PSU was about $100. I just picked up an Antec Earthwatts EA-650 power supply from NewEgg. It doesn't come in a case as far as I know, but it's very quiet and runs my AMD AM2 dual-core CPU very nicely. I'm now a fan. I've thinking about replacing a perfectly-useful Asus power supply that I have in another case with one of the Earthwatts series power supplies, due to the noise. Most of the weirdnesses that I associate with the power supply problems are hard to truly pin on the power supply. But a sub-par power-supply really can affect the stability of the system. Historically AMD CPUs have historically worked, but been unstable when paired with a sub-par power supply (I was able to pin one of these 100% on the power supply). This goes back as far as the original Athlons. Intel CPUs started being finicky around the time the Prescott was released. There are a lot of crappy power supplies out there for sale... I'd advise against skimping on the power supply. I've ordered new cases and/or power supplies for the last three of my home-builds -- and putting a good power supply in there really does correlate (but correlation != causation) with having a stable system. -Luke P.S. Anyone in Southwest Virginia want an Inwin Micro-ATX half-height case with a questionable 350-watt power supply? ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!
Consider a motherboard based on the R690G/SB600 chipset or the nVidia 7050. The ASUS M2A-VM (690) is $70 and has on board video. I think only the sound is not supported. Likewise the nVidia ASUS M2N-VM (7050) is $70. I believe both have only 4 SATA ports, but that should be ok for your build. I have an M2A-VM. It runs 2008.05 just fine. I have not checked out sound support yet, but a driver is listed by the driver detection tool. It is correct that the board has 4 SATA ports. Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Sun Solaris Brandt Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 45 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J. H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Moving pool to new controller?
Never mind, I see the 1420SA doesn't work. (Search Google for 1420sa solaris.) The Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 seems to be the recommended choice. -- Scott This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Moving pool to new controller?
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Scott L. Burson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would still like advice on the 1420SA. It's been mentioned before. The 1420SA does not work. -B -- Brandon High [EMAIL PROTECTED] The good is the enemy of the best. - Nietzsche ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!
Sata Controller (26.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816132008 Asus M2A-VM (79.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131174 CPU $39.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103199 Case $49.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154071 PSU $30.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817338008 Sata power converter $1.89 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812816015 DVD Player $17.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827101131 Ram $84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122 Complete redesign with the aid of the very helpful people on this site! Again i truly appreciate it. Could this PSU fit in a micro atx case? (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153052) I searched for dimensions etc, but i am assuming i need a microatx psu for a microatx case, unfortunately there arent any high power ones, to run 6 sata drives. I went through the HSL and for the most part everything ive listed is compatible, i hope.. Thanks again! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Darryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sata Controller (26.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816132008 You may need to flash the BIOS on this card to disable the RAID features. I think you can get the correct image from the Silicon Image website. Could this PSU fit in a micro atx case? (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153052) I searched for dimensions etc, but i am assuming i need a microatx psu for a microatx case, unfortunately there arent any high power ones, to run 6 sata drives. It would depend on the case. -B -- Brandon High [EMAIL PROTECTED] The good is the enemy of the best. - Nietzsche ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Create ZFS now, add mirror later
Richard Elling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: W. Wayne Liauh wrote: E. Mike Durbin wrote: Is there a way to to a create a zfs file system (e.g. zpool create boot /dev/dsk/c0t0d0s1) Then, (after vacating the old boot disk) add another device and make the zpool a mirror? zpool attach -- richard (as in: zpool create boot mirror /dev/dsk/c0t0d0s1 /dev/dsk/c1t0d0s1) Thanks! emike Thanks, but for starters, where is the best place to find info like this (i.e., the easiest to get started on zfs)? The main ZFS community site is: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/ There is a lot of good information and step-by-step examples in the ZFS Administration Guide located under the docs section: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/docs/ -- richard I'd further add that, since there are only 2 zfs related commands[1], reading the man pages for zpool(1M) and zfs(1M) is a good investment of time. Boyd. [1] I'm aware of zdb, but it's not really relevant to this discussion. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!
I dont know what hapenned to the thread, i can only read up to the 6th post... But i have narrowed down my hardware for my build, and will commence purchasing it all slowly. Thank you to all that have assisted me! I am apologizing in advance, as i know when i have my equipment, i'll be bothering you once again, sorry! I am quite excited to get this started. I wish i could practice some zfs commands to learn, but i will continue reading meanwhile Darryl This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!
This thread really messed me up, posts dont follow a chronological order... so sorry for all the extra posts! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Space used by the snapshot
Silvio Armando Davi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I create a pool mirrored with 1gb of space. After I create a file system in that pool and put a file (file1) of 300MB it that file system. After that, I create a snapshot in the file system. With the zfs list command the space used by the snapshot is 0 (zero). It´s ok. Well after that I copied the file of 300 mb to a another file (file2) in the same file system. Listing the files in the file system I can see the two files and listing the files in the snapshot I can see only the first file. It´s ok too, but the zfs list now shows that the snapshot uses 23.5KB of space. I suppose that the copy of the file1 change the atime of the inode and for this reason the inode of the file1 needed to be copied to the snapshot using the space of the snapshot. I tried to set the atime to off, but the space of 23.5KB of the snapshot still being used after the copy of the file. Anyone knows the reason the snapshot uses that 23.5kb of space? I would guess that there is a lot more than the atime that needs tracking. The containing directory at the destination has changed, so the before version of that would take up space. I think that free space maps go in there too. Others will probably be able to answer more authoriatatively Boyd ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] can anyone help me? [SOLVED]
Well, finally managed to solve my issue, thanks to the invaluable help of Victor Latushkin, who I can't thank enough. I'll post a more detailed step-by-step record of what he and I did (well, all credit to him actually) to solve this. Actually, the problem is still there (destroying a huge zvol or clone is slow and takes a LOT of memory, and will die when it runs out of memory), but now I'm able to import my zpool and all is there. What Victor did was hack ZFS (libzfs) to force a rollback to abort the endless destroy, which was re-triggered every time the zpool was imported, as it was inconsistent. With this custom version of libzfs, setting an environment variable makes libzfs to bypass the destroy and jump to rollback, undoing the last destroy command. I'll be posting the long version of the story soon. Hernán This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] can anyone help me?
Hernan Freschi hjf at hjf.com.ar writes: Here's the output. Numbers may be a little off because I'm doing a nightly build and compressing a crashdump with bzip2 at the same time. Thanks. Your disks look healthy. But one question: why is c5t0/c5t1/c6t0/c6t1 when in another post you referred to the 4 disks as c[1234]d0 ? Did you change the hardware ? AFAIK ZFS doesn't always like it when the device names change... There has been problems/bugs exposed by this in the past. -marc ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss