[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 3 OK, 2 Unknown
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Tue Oct 30 13:00:00 2007 UTC to Wed Oct 31 13:00:00 2007 UTC. There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Unit Tests. Unknown --- Subject: UNKNOWN : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Tue Oct 30 21:26:43 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-October/008572.html Subject: UNKNOWN : Zope-2.9 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Tue Oct 30 21:28:13 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-October/008573.html Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.7 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Tue Oct 30 21:25:12 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-October/008571.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Tue Oct 30 21:29:43 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-October/008574.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Tue Oct 30 21:31:13 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-October/008575.html ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] zc.recipe.egg and 'install' instead of 'develop'?
Is there a recipe that will 'install' a distutils package from source instead of doing 'develop'? Couldn't find it. :( -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systemshttp://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zc.recipe.egg and 'install' instead of 'develop'?
On Oct 31, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Sidnei da Silva wrote: Is there a recipe that will 'install' a distutils package from source instead of doing 'develop'? Couldn't find it. :( build -- Jim Fulton Zope Corporation ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zc.recipe.egg and 'install' instead of 'develop'?
On 10/31/07, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 31, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Sidnei da Silva wrote: Is there a recipe that will 'install' a distutils package from source instead of doing 'develop'? Couldn't find it. :( build Erm, can you be more specific? The only two options in zc.recipe.egg seem to be 'develop' and 'custom', none of which will run a 'setup.py install' from a checkout. -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systemshttp://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zc.recipe.egg and 'install' instead of 'develop'?
On Oct 31, 2007, at 4:58 PM, Sidnei da Silva wrote: On 10/31/07, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 31, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Sidnei da Silva wrote: Is there a recipe that will 'install' a distutils package from source instead of doing 'develop'? Couldn't find it. :( custom Erm, can you be more specific? The only two options in zc.recipe.egg seem to be 'develop' and 'custom', none of which will run a 'setup.py install' from a checkout. What do ya mean. I said custom. Geez. ;) I thought when you said source, you meant a source release. I don't think zc.recipe.egg has an option to install an egg from a source tree. I can't think of a recipe off hand that does that. Jim -- Jim Fulton Zope Corporation ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: zc.recipe.egg and 'install' instead of 'develop'?
Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Oct 31, 2007, at 4:58 PM, Sidnei da Silva wrote: On 10/31/07, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 31, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Sidnei da Silva wrote: Is there a recipe that will 'install' a distutils package from source instead of doing 'develop'? Couldn't find it. :( custom Erm, can you be more specific? The only two options in zc.recipe.egg seem to be 'develop' and 'custom', none of which will run a 'setup.py install' from a checkout. What do ya mean. I said custom. Geez. ;) I thought when you said source, you meant a source release. I don't think zc.recipe.egg has an option to install an egg from a source tree. I can't think of a recipe off hand that does that. Jim pointed out how it may be an abuse of buildout, but my z3c.recipe.egg recipe supports running arbitrary setup.py commands on source distributions. Ross ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Zope on Python 2.5?
Sorry if this has been asked hundreds of times before — I couldn't find any info on this apart from the Summer of Code project related to Zope 3. Will Zope 2 ever run on Python 2.5, or is that postponed indefinitely? We see an increasing amount of users trying to use Zope 2 with their systems that have Python 2.5 as default. -- Alexander Limi · http://limi.net ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope on Python 2.5?
--On 31. Oktober 2007 20:26:11 -0700 Alexander Limi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if this has been asked hundreds of times before — I couldn't find any info on this apart from the Summer of Code project related to Zope 3. Will Zope 2 ever run on Python 2.5, or is that postponed indefinitely? Still RestrictedPython does not work with Python 2.5+ afaik. I think this is the most important blocker. We see an increasing amount of users trying to use Zope 2 with their systems that have Python 2.5 as default. The recommendation is still System python is evil, evil, evil (quoting Jim). -aj pgpkL6hJWZhVI.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope on Python 2.5?
Hi Limi, Alexander Limi wrote: Sorry if this has been asked hundreds of times before — I couldn't find any info on this apart from the Summer of Code project related to Zope 3. Now only the packages under `zope` `zope.app` packages works using Python 2.5 . I don't know the status of packages in `zc`, `z3c` and other namespaces. I also heard Grok is working fine with Python 2.5, but not yet officially blessed/supported. Will Zope 2 ever run on Python 2.5, or is that postponed indefinitely? We see an increasing amount of users trying to use Zope 2 with their systems that have Python 2.5 as default. Nikhil, who worked on Python 2.5 porting of Zope 3, told me that he will be working Zope 2 porting after his exams. Nikhil, can you send the status to this list ? Well, now you are not a GSoC student, so, this question is not official ;) Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Zope on Python 2.5?
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:29:36 -0700, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The recommendation is still System python is evil, evil, evil (quoting Jim). Sure, but if you ever want to be able to tell users to do: easy_install plone to get their Plone site, it's a necessary evil evil evil. ;) We generally encourage not to use the system Python in everything we ship (Windows, Mac and Unified installers all ship their own Python) — but I really hope we won't be stuck with Python 2.4 after the world has moved on to Python 2.5 and 2.6. I agree that for proper deployments, you shouldn't use the system Python, but there's the case of letting people get started with Plone easily from their Ubuntu or Mac OS X (Leopard ships with Python 2.5 and easy_install by default) — we should be able to let them do that too. -- Alexander Limi · http://limi.net ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope on Python 2.5?
--On 31. Oktober 2007 22:00:46 -0700 Alexander Limi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:29:36 -0700, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The recommendation is still System python is evil, evil, evil (quoting Jim). Sure, but if you ever want to be able to tell users to do: easy_install plone Would be fine but as long as several distros contain brain-dead or castrated Python installations there is little we can do - even if we would support Python 2.5. to get their Plone site, it's a necessary evil evil evil. ;) We generally encourage not to use the system Python in everything we ship (Windows, Mac and Unified installers all ship their own Python) — but I really hope we won't be stuck with Python 2.4 after the world has moved on to Python 2.5 and 2.6. Bring the word to the Python packagers. I agree that for proper deployments, you shouldn't use the system Python, but there's the case of letting people get started with Plone easily from their Ubuntu or Mac OS X (Leopard ships with Python 2.5 and easy_install by default) — we should be able to let them do that too. See above. Stepping forward with Python 2.5/2.6 support would be fine but it basically does not solve the problem that system python installation are often broken. Installation a Python from the sources is usually much more faster than trying to figure out why a system python is broken once more. pgpkpFVlOGvC9.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope on Python 2.5?
--On 31. Oktober 2007 22:00:46 -0700 Alexander Limi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:29:36 -0700, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The recommendation is still System python is evil, evil, evil (quoting Jim). Sure, but if you ever want to be able to tell users to do: easy_install plone One other point: easy_install plone make only sense if the underlying machinery generates an isolated environment for your Plone instance. You really don't want to mess up your system python with a hundred Zope or Plone eggs. This is definitely the road to disaster. On distributions that depends on Python for their internal processing/administration (I think Fedora does) you might break the functionality of your system installation significantly in case of broken or misbehaving eggs. So we must be careful about the story we're telling the users. The obviously easiest way is possibly not the best way (in the long term). Andreas pgplvxpag36h9.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
