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From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ralf Gill (healthAlliance)"
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Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:05 PM
Subject: RE
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>well i guess that finally confirms tristans very astute
observation that
>it basically comes down to optimist vs pessimist.
why is it pessimism? id call it being realistic vs being
idealistic.
>i for one w
give a f*ck. Grime? Hahahahaha.
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Sent: 01 April 2004 03:19
To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
well i guess that finally confirms tristans very astute observation t
well i guess that finally confirms tristans very astute observation that
it basically comes down to optimist vs pessimist.
i for one will enjoy the music enjoy, and enjoy it more so in the times
when it draws more than a handful of scowling purists.
you seem to have spent most of the day railing
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>your point being that musical styles and popularity ebbs and
flows?
>
>duh
my point being that trends in a style ebb and flow very
drastically and quickly. people will be on to something else by
then and te
your point being that musical styles and popularity ebbs and flows?
duh
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
> my email acct just ate my long reply to this. argh. anyway, i
> conceded your point about kompakt working hard to achieve a new
> audience, but i simply dont think that is
my email acct just ate my long reply to this. argh. anyway, i
conceded your point about kompakt working hard to achieve a new
audience, but i simply dont think that is the only reason for
their popularity. we'll remember this thread and 2 years from now
when kompakt shows dont draw 400 much les
I'm really enjoying this! I think you two are both making some great points.
I'll say this much. Like with every trend in music, it's impossible to
predict what takes hold or to what degree, and people spend ages trying to
figure out why things have taken hold after the fact: what other influences
>
> >but how did the hip-hop heads hear it? obviously there's some
> sort of
> >'trend' leading them to discover this music.
>
> from hearing me and other deejays playing the records in the first
> place. the guy who owns the shop is a massive hiphop head and
> loves his native tongues era stuff a
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>but how did the hip-hop heads hear it? obviously there's some
sort of
>'trend' leading them to discover this music.
from hearing me and other deejays playing the records in the first
place. the guy who owns
but how did the hip-hop heads hear it? obviously there's some sort of
'trend' leading them to discover this music.
you seem to be very fond of subdividing people. i walk into a party and
see a bunch of people who are there to enjoy whatever music is being
played at that party. You seem to walk in
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>in the case you make here, repressing is an effect, not a cause.
why are
>people buying repressings? how are they discovering the older
music. mybe
>their hipsters who got turned on my kompakt or miss kittin?
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From: Matt Hellige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>It makes a difference because we're talking about the possibility
of
>new people getting into techno, and one wonders whether this is a
fad
>or a long-term trend. If 500 people went to see Surg
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
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in the case you make here, repressing is an effect, not a cause. why are
people buying repressings? how are they discovering the older music. mybe
their hips
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>no- repressing will only reconfirm the music's greatness to all
the people
>who are already into it. preaching to the choir.
how exactly is that? is everyone just gonna buy their second and
third copies of a
age -
From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ralf Gill (healthAlliance)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:05 PM
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Maybe we need a 313 t-shirt sporting the logo 'I'm Enjoying Myself More Than
You Because I'm For Real'
[Pete Grammenos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> Miss kitten made a fan out of me, nothing electoclash about her set when she
> played here in nyc w/ mayer a few weeks ago. she played some hard as nails
> techno and i would even go as far as to say that she played more diverse and
> interesting than mayer.
>
pete
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From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:38 PM
Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
Have you heard Miss Kittin's DJing recently
a.m.
> To: Ralf Gill (healthAlliance)
> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
>
>
> wow- i think you've just achieve an entirely new level of constipation.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Ralf Gill (healthAlliance) wrote:
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&
[Matt Hellige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
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> > why does it make a difference you frigin' knob?
> >
>
> It makes a difference because we're talking about the possibility of
> new people getting into techno, and one wonders whether this is a fad
> or a long-term trend. If 500 people wen
no- repressing will only reconfirm the music's greatness to all the people
who are already into it. preaching to the choir.
a 'trendy' movement within this type of music (it amazes me how purist can
always pull the wagons in tighter) will encourage some much needed
economic growth for artists as w
I've seen people wearing copies of that t-shirt...
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From: Ralf Gill (healthAlliance)
Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2004 8:10 a.m.
To: 'Robert Taylor'
Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
I've seen people wearing copies of that t-shi
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> why does it make a difference you frigin' knob?
>
It makes a difference because we're talking about the possibility of
new people getting into techno, and one wonders whether this is a fad
or a long-term trend. If 500 people went to see Surgeon last time he
was in town, and 10
t when they go out...mmm..doesn't it feel s good to have
> authentic taste!!!
>
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> From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2004 7:59 a.m.
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
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>why does it make a difference you frigin' knob?
boy im glad we didnt have to get down to name calling or anything.
anyway, in the context of a "renaissance" i dont think that a
temporary fad is going to hav
el s good to have
> authentic taste!!!
>
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> From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2004 7:59 a.m.
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
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> -- Origina
why does it make a difference you frigin' knob?
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
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> >so there's now a difference between 'techno fans' and people who
> go to
> >techno parties? good f**kin' g
59 a.m.
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>so there's now a difference between 'techno fans' and people who
go to
>techno parties? good f*
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>so there's now a difference between 'techno fans' and people who
go to
>techno parties? good f**kin' grief.
how hard is it to differentiate between people who trend hop
(hipsters) and people who are long ter
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From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Not at all - it's encouraging if it gets these shallow style mag
readers to get into music that hasn't been decreed by the almighty
God of Hip as 'cool'.
>I do hope the 'hipsters' weren't di
for techno in America
> >>
> >> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Robert Taylor wrote:
> >>
> >> > Confused by this statement - is 1400 considered to be not
> many people in the US?
> >> >
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> >> &g
irstyled 'hipster' going along to a Miss Kittin gig
and being blasted by Autechre.
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From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:50 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
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im not ma
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>From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:37 PM
>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
>
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>is 1400 hipsters at a NYC show really that outlandish? kompakt
and
>that sublow
I wouldn't call Rephlex/Kompakt 'poppier techno', though I can see how
Kompakt's sound might have a broader appeal
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From: Matt Hellige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:33 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
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er last CD mix had everything from Der Zyklus to Autechre to Blaze
to Marshall Jefferson on it.
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From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:37 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
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["Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> is 1400 hipsters at a NYC show really that outlandish? kompakt and
> that sublow grime nonsense rephlex is pushing now
> (plasticman?!?!?!? hahahahaha) is totally hipster these days.
> ditto ms kitten. i wonder if you could bring 1400 serious techno
;> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:17 PM
>> To: Robert Taylor
>> Cc: Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
>>
>>
>> no- its a LOT of people for techno in America
>>
>> On Wed, 31
daring to book anything other
> then Premier League 313 DJs)
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> The Kompakt/Miss Kittin/Rephlex show in NYC just drew 1400 peop
ement - is 1400 considered to be not many people in
> > the US?
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arch 31, 2004 7:06 PM
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> The Kompakt/Miss Kittin/Rephlex show in NYC just drew 1400 people to a
&g
nt: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:06 PM
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> Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
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> The Kompakt/Miss Kittin/Rephlex show in NYC just drew 1400 people to
> a B
Confused by this statement - is 1400 considered to be not many people in the US?
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repressed classics is
> undeniably a good thing!
>
> Brendan
> (donning flame-proof jacket)
>
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> > Sent: 31 March 2004 16:33
> > To: Peteri, Jochem
> > Cc: 313@hyperre
I didn't mean to be pining for the "old days" - new techno artists have
always been welcome in my book
what I meant was there seems to be a few artists who never really released
a lot of music but what they did release was always well received. Problem
was they either DJ'd more than they produc
jacket)
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of repressed classics is
undeniably a good thing!
Brendan
(donning flame-proof jacket)
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> Sent: 31 March 2004 16:33
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>And i remember something about connection machine returning to active duty
does anyone get the feeling that techno is undergoing a re-birth of sorts?
we're suddenly seeing releases from artists who haven't released new
materia
>And i remember something about connection machine returning to active duty
does anyone get the feeling that techno is undergoing a re-birth of sorts?
we're suddenly seeing releases from artists who haven't released new
material for several years
and maybe it's just me but there seems to be a
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