Anyone know if this project went anywhere?
https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~412/lectures/L05_Purge_Proposal.pdf
A Hellaphone revisit.
On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 12:48 PM sirjofri
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> many many really cool ideas. Most of them get a big heart icon, but I
> don't want to repeat your ideas. So
This is interesting:
*"Pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act, I hereby request the
following records:*
*Records, emails, memos and reports relating to or mentioning the operating
system Plan 9 from Bell Labs"*
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/foia-cia-plan-9-from-b
I'm not running one (at the moment), but I think there's an stunnel port
for Plan 9, and that could be an easy way to duct tape TLS support onto
your existing setup.
-Jack
On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 2:29 PM Steve Simon wrote:
> I have been running my a smtp server on plan9 for about
> 10 years but
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:38 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > Yes... But this is also why, concurrently, work has to be done to get
> > rid of some unnecessities: that documents produced on Plan9 be viewable
> > on Plan9 with only Plan9 means (external documents are another problem).
>
> ghostscript
Is a PS/PDF library something that might benefit from reconstruction in Go?
Or is it just a spaghetti mess?
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> This is an outrage. I was promised html parsing and in-line images with
> cat.
Best mailing list message ever. :)
-J
On Jan 4, 2013 10:07 AM, "Richard Miller" <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote:
>
> > It contains the full file system from the Plan 9 CD image,
> > unmodified, except a single line change in the kernel binary.
>
> I can't contain my curiosity: what's the line?
>
> I once worked with a colleague who had a su
Traditional names always have the edge:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwigillingok,_Alaska
I think the Yup'ik are half-Welsh. ;)
-Jack
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 08:26:32AM -0800, Brian L. Stuart wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, we probably do need more
Even with it's "faults" (age?), I still miss Oberon. It was *fun* and elegant.
-Jack
Quick tangent, is there anyone out there whose favorite environment is
non-native? Maybe 9vx or plan9ports on specific hardware? Your secret
sam port to Windows 8's Metro UI?
For all I know, plan9ports full screen on a MacBook Air is Glenda's
Elysian field. Maybe something dual-screen with Chrome
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote:
> Given the lag in publication, this system is no longer under development
> (though we are still using it), but here's a paper about the Octopus.
Hey Francisco,
First, I really like the ideas in Octopus. I think it was extremely
we
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:43 PM, erik quanstrom
wrote:
> pfft. we've always had find. we've just called it "du".
It's funny, since I learned how to do that via 9fans, I still do it
that way on Linux.
-Jack
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:42 PM, John Floren wrote:
> We have discussed this. "Nixie" was a proposed new name, but for now
> we'd rather get the actual code and distribution right than worry
> about the name.
If you need yet another proposal that would Google with minimal
collisions, it's possib
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 8:29 AM, dexen deVries wrote:
> disclaimer: i'm not a plan 9 person for any viable value of `p9 person'
I'm in the same boat, but I aspire to be in the other boat. :)
-Jack
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:42 AM, errno wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 21, 2011 10:20:27 AM Jack Johnson wrote:
>> which is why I find it hard to get hot headed over any of the assertions,
>> but tend toward trusting the research.
>>
> What research?
The rabbit hole is pretty d
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:48 AM, William Cowan wrote:
> Sample tasks at random you say. What is the correct universe to sample
> if we wish to substantiate the sort of categorical assertions made on
> this thread?
Also, familiar vs unfamiliar tasks using familiar vs unfamiliar
software. The numbe
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote:
> FTS, I'm interesting in getting Go here because I'm going to write
> the i.e. window system (successor of o/live, o/mero, ...) also in go, to run
> at least the viewer native on unix systems. The C version is still cooking.
Is ther
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Corey wrote:
> No doubt - MS and FSF are clearly in the same camp. Allies even! Heck,
> one might even go so far as to venture the notion that they're practically
> bedfellows.
I'm just noting that usually licensing is looked at as a continuum of
commercial vs fr
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Nick LaForge wrote:
>>Kinda puts MS and EFF in the same camp.
>
> You mean FSF?
Whoops, yes, FSF.
-Jack
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:42 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote:
>>You don't get to change the license
>
> ``3. REQUIREMENTS
> A. Distributor may choose to distribute the Program in any form under
> this Agreement or under its own license agreement, provided that:
> ...
> c. if distributed under Di
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Federico G. Benavento
wrote:
> p2c (pascal 2 c)
Anyone ever peek at one of the Oberon to C compliers? Or maybe the
Oxford stuff?
http://spivey.oriel.ox.ac.uk/corner/Oxford_Oberon-2_compiler
-Jack
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:29 PM, wrote:
> very little new is being created, but rather many old things are being
> "improved" upon (regurgitated) in manners that consume more and more
> computing cycles and deliver less and less performance.
I think this is an important observation.
When I saw
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:41 PM, wrote:
> Polluting Plan 9 with fashionable toys isn't going to save the
> world, isn't even going to be useful to the existing Plan 9 community,
> so why do you believe it should happen, rather than allow Plan 9 as it
> exists, both as a philosophy and as the imp
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Patrick Kelly wrote:
> Object-Orientation reduces static provability.
True (or true enough)?
Not to engender a flame war, but my gut says there must be some
Eiffel, Smalltalk, and LISP folk out there who are big on provability,
but I can imagine that there's a ca
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:52 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> --rw-r--r-- M 26 rminnich sys8805 Apr 3 17:41
> /n/sources/contrib/rminnich/9vx.tce
>
Wild. I've been screwing around with a tinycore terminal server in a couple
of VMs and I was planning on building a TCE for 9vx after this weekend's
Eas
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Jack Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Patrick Kelly wrote:
> around with relatively few upgrades for the past 420 billion years or
s/billion/million/
-Jack
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Patrick Kelly wrote:
> Read up on why Plan 9 was written. We've been succeeding for 20 years so
> far.
I think this is an interesting comment in light of the evolution
thread. Most people (incorrectly) equate evolution with progress.
Whether or not other more pop
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:54 AM, andrey mirtchovski
wrote:
> try as you might, the irony is unescapable (see the attached "helpful"
> suggestion by google).
It sounds like a competition.
"Write a program that, when translated by Google into Czech, still
produces valid output."
-Jack
Thanks to Google's targeted ads:
http://www.eglobalwireless.com/p-4333-new-7-mini-netbook-laptop-notebook-wifi-windows-2gb-hd.aspx
Also might make a good Inferno device if WinCE isn't too firmly ensconced.
-Jack
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Stuart Morrow
wrote:
> However, there is one "smart" feature that for me would be useful enough that
> carrying a big chunky thing that lives for a quarter of a day on battery might
> actually be worth it, and the feature is so damn trivial to do with Plan 9 -
> se
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Jack Johnson wrote:
> Off-topic-ish, that 320x240 screen is probably the biggest challenge,
> trying to find some usable UI in that space. I think the idea of a
> native Inferno port is great.
Sorry, last of the blather. It also seems ideal for Octop
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Jack Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:54 AM, wrote:
>>> http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/qi-hardwares-tiny-hackable-ben-nanonote-now-shipping/
>>
>> Okay, Maht. You just cost me $125 :) I just couldn't resist.
>
>
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:54 AM, wrote:
>> http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/qi-hardwares-tiny-hackable-ben-nanonote-now-shipping/
>
> Okay, Maht. You just cost me $125 :) I just couldn't resist.
I was wondering how you'd network one of those things:
http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_in_N
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, andrey mirtchovski
wrote:
> i just did. acme isn't seeing any mouse clicks from a macbook's
> trackpad. i'll take a look and report in more detail in a bit.
I'll have to give that a try. It seems acme + trackpad isn't always
fun, but my brain loves a trackpad for s
If I'm reading you right, you're saying it might be easier if
everything were encoded as combining (or maybe more aptly
non-combining) codes, regardless of language?
So, we might encode 'Waffles' as w+upper a f f l e s and let the
renderer (if there is one) handle the presentation of the case shif
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:41 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> on coraid's worm, a find on main takes not too long:
>
> minooka; cd /n/ila
> minooka; time rc -c 'find . | wc'
> 356164 356164 13987863
> 1.24u 1.38s 6.65r rc -c find . | wc
The FAQ also mentions:
du -a . | grep foo
Just out of c
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:10 PM, wrote:
> Which model of USB audio? Is it something available on Amazon?
Looks like this might be the new version of the Turtle Beach Audio Advantage:
http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Advantage-Micro-Sound-Card/dp/B0002ICGDY
Hopefully it works as well.
-Jack
--
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Jason Catena wrote:
> Rob explains the fonts and colors (inspired by Tufte, no less) a bit
> in this reposted message, and mentions Renee French.
I wonder if Renee would be interested to know this particular color
palette is an ongoing point of discussion?
-Jack
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Lorenzo Bolla wrote:
> Is anyone using it for such things?
Some of us either do different things day-to-day or have found
workarounds or alternatives to the way people usually enjoy the
Internet and their attached computers.
Without (or until) a change of mindset,
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:34 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> the problem i have with "literate programming" is that it
> tends to treat code like a terse and difficult-to-understand
> footnote.
And thus, we have literate programming meets APL. ;)
-Jack
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Pietro Gagliardi wrote:
> Is Rails even necessary?
If all you have is an object, everything looks like a method. ;)
-J
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Uriel wrote:
> How many people can actually claim that they will for certain use such
> iphone drawterm? Because the idea of using rio or acme from a
> touchscreen doesn't seem very practical to me (to put it very mildly).
Is there a similar project that would be
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Jack Johnson wrote:
> There's some reseller in the U.K., I think. Let me see if I can dig it up.
Whoops, wrong country:
http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Categories/%22Lemote%20product%22
-Jack
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM, wrote:
> I found this a couple months ago and showed it to Ron, tried to get a
> quote or some info on buying them but nobody even replied to my email.
> Can you even get them in China? Are they even being produced?
There's some reseller in the U.K., I think. L
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Bruce Ellis wrote:
> found object ...
>
> http://www.chunder.com/text/struggle.html
Absolutely priceless. The last line is the winner.
-J
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Eris Discordia
wrote:
> How come the Renée French who appears in Jim Jarmusch's "Coffee and
> Cigarettes" has nothing to with the Renée French who drew Glenda?
Interesting movie. Parts of it I dearly love, other parts not so
much. A lot like Night on Earth, whe
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Jack Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> and then it follows up with:
>
> GO TO
> https://www.google.com/accounts/'http:/mail.google.com/mail/h/19sso9tatmt7r/?ui=html&zy=l'
>
> which doesn't seem to match the contin
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:43 AM, Rudolf Sykora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> seems you use IMAP to read gmail. I usually read my gmail mail through
> my web browser, which is not a problem from opera/firefox in linux.
> However, I can't do the same from plan9. Neither abaco, nor charon
> work. Is th
I always thought 8 1/2, rio, acme and friends were more, uh, Amish UIs
than ugly UIs, but to each his or her own.
-J
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:46 AM, David Leimbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dang, in a pinch I'll even eat at McDonalds...
I think I booted McOS this morning
-J
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are those that say too many cooks spoil the broth.
>
> This isn't our problem.
>
> Our problem is that we have a kitchen full of food critics attempting
> to direct the cooks.
Is it good or bad that we keep eat
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Amazon prescreen the kernel that you can use there, but!
> As was suggested by Richard Miller, if Plan9 can be
> a target of kexec -- the sky is the limit.
I thought I read they were using Xen? What's the relationsh
Has anyone tried injecting a Plan 9 instance into the new Amazon cloud?
http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/
-Jack
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Make that "Get off of my Wifi!"
Those crazy kids with their Hulu loops.
-J
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:10 AM, ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the HPC world, there is lots of conservatism. There is an editor at
> LANL, named Fred, written in Fortran, that has been in use for longer
> than most of you have been alive. Until very recently, it was a
> required part
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That means that Plan 9 is like porn for hackers.
>
Now when can I get that on a t-shirt? :)
-J
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