Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Golden ears or amusia? Read this science-article and test yourself on-line!

2008-09-12 Thread Pat Farrell
Robin Bowes wrote: > I don't think a sample size of three is statistically significant. :) Laugh, but its weird, at 8 or 9, it can be, depending on the population. You have to have really clear results to get the "reject the null hypothesis" result, but you can do it with under ten. -- Pat Farre

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Golden ears or amusia? Read this science-article and test yourself on-line!

2008-09-12 Thread opaqueice
Robin Bowes;339849 Wrote: > > I don't think a sample size of three is statistically significant. :) > No argument there. But still, my point was that wiring up a couple of cheapish mics with a coathanger or a dummy head isn't quite rocket science :-). -- opaqueice -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power supply / conditioning

2008-09-12 Thread radish
DeVerm;339835 Wrote: > pls. write about what you actually know about, and not just statements > that you could know are not true by checking it on the web. > Welcome to the Audiophile forum! You must be new here :) -- radish ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Golden ears or amusia? Read this science-article and test yourself on-line!

2008-09-12 Thread Robin Bowes
opaqueice wrote: > Robin Bowes;339798 Wrote: >> Yeah, true. And all you need to do to get to the moon is make your own >> rocket an fly there! >> > > Well, I know two people that have made binaural recordings in their > spare time, but only one astronaut (and he's only been on the shuttle > and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power supply / conditioning

2008-09-12 Thread DeVerm
rayiner;339808 Wrote: > Say your microwave cooks a pizza in 100 seconds at 1,000 watts (ie: 100 > kJ of delivered energy). By your reasoning, I can accomplish the same > effect by leaving the pizza next to a 25 watt lightbulb (say 10 watts > actually hitting the pizza) for about 3 hours. Try it s

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power supply / conditioning

2008-09-12 Thread rayiner
> Yes, so it takes a cellphone way longer to cook your brain. A rough > estimate: only 30% of radiated RF from phone enters brain, let's keep > that at only 100 mW. A microwave big enough for my head is indeed > 1000W. So with only 100mW the phone needs 10,000 times as long to > damage my brain co

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Golden ears or amusia? Read this science-article and test yourself on-line!

2008-09-12 Thread opaqueice
Robin Bowes;339798 Wrote: > > Yeah, true. And all you need to do to get to the moon is make your own > rocket an fly there! > Well, I know two people that have made binaural recordings in their spare time, but only one astronaut (and he's only been on the shuttle and ISS a few times, never th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Golden ears or amusia? Read this science-article and test yourself on-line!

2008-09-12 Thread Robin Bowes
Pneumonic wrote: > I took the test. 27/30 & 23/30, though I guessed on the last 15 of test > 2 because of boredom. > > Like someone else mentioned I think this was more a test of memory than > anything. I really don't see how this is anyway applicable to what my > hearing is able to resolve as I w

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Golden ears or amusia? Read this science-article and test yourself on-line!

2008-09-12 Thread Robin Bowes
opaqueice wrote: > Nonreality;339538 Wrote: >> If you have never heard the barbershop one before it's really a fun one. >> But you have to use headphones to get the effect. I've had it in my >> library for a while just to show what you can do with effects. It >> doesn't do much with speakers. >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Golden ears or amusia? Read this science-article and test yourself on-line!

2008-09-12 Thread darrenyeats
I got 26/30 and 27/30 which means I am "Joe Median" according to the histogram (which I thought I'd post a link to): http://www.delosis.com/listening/summary.html Darren -- darrenyeats SB3 / Inguz -> Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass) -> PMC AB-1 Dell laptop -> JVC UX-C30 mini system

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Golden ears or amusia? Read this science-article and test yourself on-line!

2008-09-12 Thread Pneumonic
I took the test. 27/30 & 23/30, though I guessed on the last 15 of test 2 because of boredom. Like someone else mentioned I think this was more a test of memory than anything. I really don't see how this is anyway applicable to what my hearing is able to resolve as I was only given a single chanc

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Golden ears or amusia? Read this science-article and test yourself on-line!

2008-09-12 Thread Phil Leigh
Nonreality;339523 Wrote: > I hope you have a helmet on and your life vest. :) He doesn't need them. This was the genius of Blumlein. Of course it's all a beautiful illusion. It doesn't matter. One important implication of this article is that to design a good product that appeals to the collec

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Golden ears or amusia? Read this science-article and test yourself on-line!

2008-09-12 Thread cliveb
DeVerm;339660 Wrote: > But did you read the article? What's your opinion about it? I have just read it. I don't see anything new in what he says. It's always been patently obvious that what people perceive is modulated by how their brains work. Of course, those who are interested in understandin

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Golden ears or amusia? Read this science-article and test yourself on-line!

2008-09-12 Thread Phil Leigh
I think the article is pretty clear. There is no objective reality, just a collective average interpretation but individuals hear everything slightly differently. So it begs the age-old question... "Fidelity to what?" - answer - "Whatever you want" Perhaps we should stop worrying about what's rig

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Virtual Dynamics Power 3 2000% Profit Margin

2008-09-12 Thread Themis
seanadams;339423 Wrote: > You have reached an intellectual dead-end - a total impasse. You're > asking questions, but how could any answer satisfy you if you've > already decided that everyone else is full of it?It's my 70's side... ;) seanadams;339423 Wrote: > The thing is, you are asking que

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Golden ears or amusia? Read this science-article and test yourself on-line!

2008-09-12 Thread Themis
shyster;339462 Wrote: > I haven't take the tests, but the article doesn't seem to say much about > whether audiophiles are imagining things. The article does discuss how > the brain processes sound.Same opinion. Interesting article, though. Pity > there's no marriage, children and happy life in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Golden ears or amusia? Read this science-article and test yourself on-line!

2008-09-12 Thread Phil Leigh
hmmm... I scored 26 & 26. Halfway through the second test I lost the will to live (boredom). My eldest daughter is now doing it. I'm interested to see what she scores as she has near perfect pitch and performs in choirs, orchestras etc, whereas I'm an old rocker who can't sing in tune but can pl

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Golden ears or amusia? Read this science-article and test yourself on-line!

2008-09-12 Thread DeVerm
cliveb;339603 Wrote: > I scored 26/30 and 30/30 for parts 1 and 2. It strikes me that this is > basically a test of memory rather than musical acuity. Well, with your scores it sure is just a test of your memory! For people with a severe form of amusia it is not, as their memory works perfectly

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Suggestions for improving sound from SqueezeBox Duet

2008-09-12 Thread EnochLight
Nonreality;338606 Wrote: > You were not talking about archival at that point in the post so don't > pretend you were. It was your first comment to fix the sound problem > or were you just throwing it out there to get something going? I wouldn't begin to pretend, Nonreality - I'll completely s

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Virtual Dynamics Power 3 2000% Profit Margin

2008-09-12 Thread opaqueice
honestguv;339431 Wrote: > Audiophiles want to believe in magic. If they stop believing and start > following real world performance then a consumer based hobby is going > to be rather boring and unsatisfactory. How many readers and > advertisers would a home audio publications get that said all c

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Golden ears or amusia? Read this science-article and test yourself on-line!

2008-09-12 Thread opaqueice
Nonreality;339538 Wrote: > If you have never heard the barbershop one before it's really a fun one. > But you have to use headphones to get the effect. I've had it in my > library for a while just to show what you can do with effects. It > doesn't do much with speakers. Yeah, that's a good exa

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Golden ears or amusia? Read this science-article and test yourself on-line!

2008-09-12 Thread cliveb
I scored 26/30 and 30/30 for parts 1 and 2. It strikes me that this is basically a test of memory rather than musical acuity. The fact that the "tunes" are so dreary doesn't help. Like Sean, I started off listening out for much more subtle differences than were actually present - this probably acc