Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-29 Thread ModelCitizen
JJZolx;296628 Wrote: Many people looking for a simple entry into computer-based audio have expressed feelings that the server software is the weakest part of the SB system and have sold or returned Squeezeboxes because of it. How many users new to the SB and these forums have posted asking

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-29 Thread ModelCitizen
JJZolx;296624 Wrote: Functions as a CD player. +1 Touchscreen. +1 All in one ripping and database system. +2 Of course, it's a different paradigm, with some shortcomings compared to the slim approach. Biggest is probably lack of multi-zone playback, but then again SD hasn't exactly

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-29 Thread CardinalFang
I think they've pitched it right for the UK audiophile audience. No PC to set up, no wireless streaming, in fact all the things that baffle the audiophiles and make them shout but they'll be degradation as the bits go through the air and get dirty all go away with this design. The only gripe

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-29 Thread darrenyeats
I am not part of the mass market. I'm typing this on a laptop running Linux. There are plenty of people like me but I realise they are the minority. I like Slim Devices products because they tap into a home network and data server that were already there for me. I don't need to pay for things

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-29 Thread adamslim
ModelCitizen;296711 Wrote: The more I think about the HDX the more i think that Naim have got it right and that it is far from flawed product. Considering their probable target market as it stands at the moment it seems well aimed. It is attempting to take all the hassle and geekness out of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-29 Thread opaqueice
darrenyeats;296720 Wrote: On the audiophile side, the SD products are characterised as minimal players which can be connected to my main rig. The total absence of physical or electrical noise that is due to moving parts is very attractive to me as an audiophile. Such basic characteristics

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-28 Thread ModelCitizen
And neither am I influenced by hype! :-) In fact I've just sold all my Naim gear. I just can't be fussed with all the wires, black boxes and the continual temptation to spend even more money. I've not found any network player or network player/Dac combination that comes close to a Naim CDX and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-28 Thread Phil Leigh
Linn's position appears to be that they think the future is with high-end media players and that CD is no longer the pre-eminent source. I don't expect them to be making high-end cd players in 2-3 years time and I don't think Naim will either. I believe I am right in saying that they see the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-28 Thread adamslim
ModelCitizen;296400 Wrote: As someone here once said (maybe the original poster?): I've already made a sacrifice in sound quality going from CD from vinyl. I don't want to take another going to a network player (or some such). As things stand I still think you still have to, but maybe the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-28 Thread JJZolx
Functions as a CD player. +1 Touchscreen. +1 All in one ripping and database system. +2 - I'll bet they don't have a wiki on how to use a couple dozen software products just to get music from a CD into a state where it can be played. Of course, it's a different paradigm, with some

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-28 Thread JJZolx
adamslim;296430 Wrote: What might be interesting would be if Slim Devices were to license their server and firmware to the likes of Linn, Naim and so on. Audiophile companies are not software developers; could be a nice little earner for Logitech, although it would, I think, be a unique

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-28 Thread finkaudio
Hi, guess I'm the only one that already listened to the new Naim. And I must say, it did pretty well. I compared it with the 555 CD-Player and even so, my sample of HDX was an early sample, I could hear the family sound of Naim. I also had a chance to listen to a 44kHz version of a CD and in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-25 Thread ModelCitizen
iPhone;295309 Wrote: Or am I wrong that 4500 pounds translates to about $9000 USD? It does at the moment. I certainly won't be buying it, but I'll be very interested to see if Naim can manage to get their usual stunning sound out of a networked player. I wasn't convinced by the SuperNait

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-25 Thread cliveb
ModelCitizen;295355 Wrote: Is there some sort of audiophile competition between Linn and Naim then? Do you not remember the great falling out? Back in the 1980's, Linn and Naim were bestest buddies. Anyone who was anyone had a system comprising LP12 turntable, Naim amps, and Linn speakers.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-25 Thread adamslim
ModelCitizen;295227 Wrote: The point about NAIM is that their gear just sounds superb. The rest is details ;-/ That's why it would be really cool if they came up with a product that isn't so fundamentally flawed! Might sound great *but*... Slim Devices came up with products that are far

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-25 Thread agentsmith
ModelCitizen;295227 Wrote: The point about NAIM is that their gear just sounds superb. The rest is details ;-/ I agree with that being a Naimee. To me it is a Naim quality CD player plus a Transporte minus digital in. I am sure sound wise it would at least give the Transporter a good run

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-25 Thread iPhone
agentsmith;295438 Wrote: I agree with that being a Naimee. To me it is a Naim quality CD player plus a Transporte minus digital in. I am sure sound wise it would at least give the Transporter a good run for the money. Too bad it is sooo much money. Surely the power supply and case

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-25 Thread Phil Leigh
GuyDebord;295240 Wrote: Please dont! do the NAIM vs LINN In my view both brands are worth 50% of their sound in the brand. I have never understood coorporate brand name loyals – mcintosh, naim, linn, bw... – I guess fierce marketing this days is still pounding strong. Guy, I didn't

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-24 Thread adamslim
Can we come up with why this is a flawed product: http://whathifi.com/hi-fi/archive/2008/04/24/news-naim-s-audiophile-music-server.aspx Although it's good to see another entrant to the audiophile hard-disk-streaming world :) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them...

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-24 Thread radish
I can see 3500 reasons I'd rather have a TP... -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46767

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-24 Thread GuyDebord
just to warm up, I see a fan there, I sure hope those HD are well isolated, it rips only in wav? imagine ripping 20,000 cd's in a 4,500 pound device? doesnt seem to have extra digital in's or out's, no to say world clock inputs, and its excessively pricey. -- GuyDebord Verity Audio Tamino X2

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-24 Thread iPhone
adamslim;295145 Wrote: Can we come up with why this is a flawed product: http://whathifi.com/hi-fi/archive/2008/04/24/news-naim-s-audiophile-music-server.aspx Although it's good to see another entrant to the audiophile hard-disk-streaming world :) Hey at least Naim kept their promise to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-24 Thread SuperQ
iPhone;295188 Wrote: It really only does one thing that Transporter can not do, which is play the Linn and Naim high bit high rate downloads. Boy I hope Logitech is working on that. Transporter firmware 40 in the beta SqueezeCenter supports those 88khz files. -- SuperQ

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-24 Thread ModelCitizen
The point about NAIM is that their gear just sounds superb. The rest is details ;-/ Got it? MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. It's the music, stupid. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-24 Thread Phil Leigh
ModelCitizen;295227 Wrote: The point about NAIM is that their gear just sounds superb. The rest is details ;-/ Got it? MC Well - no not really. Naim is OK. Not definitive. IMHO. I find it rather tiresome personally. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-24 Thread Mitch Harding
To be fair, it says it rips CDs at fuil .wav resolution – 16-bit 44.1kHz. This could still mean it uses FLAC on the backend for compression. On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:14 PM, GuyDebord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just to warm up, I see a fan there, I sure hope those HD are well isolated, it rips

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-24 Thread ModelCitizen
GuyDebord;295240 Wrote: I guess fierce marketing this days is still pounding strong. Nothing to do with brand/marketing. NAIM just swings where other don't. You can hear it. ;-) MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. It's the music, stupid.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-24 Thread darrenyeats
ModelCitizen;295250 Wrote: Nothing to do with brand/marketing. NAIM just swings where other don't. You can hear it. ;-) MC Nope, -you- can hear it. :) Darren -- darrenyeats SB3 / Inguz - Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass) - PMC AB-1 Dell laptop - JVC UX-C30 mini system

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...

2008-04-24 Thread iPhone
ModelCitizen;295227 Wrote: The point about NAIM is that their gear just sounds superb. The rest is details ;-/ Got it? MC I like Naim gear. They have an idea how HiFi should sound and they make that there mission. All that is fine and it is up to me whether I buy it or not. For my