Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread James Kiefer
Order of addition when making the solutions is often important to dilute the least soluble component rapidly. Zn acetate is the most soluble Zn salt. Put that in your tube first and then dilute it with your largets volume (probably either water) and then add the other ingredients, consider vortex

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Katherine Sippel
gt; >> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Rajesh Kumar wrote: >> >>> If there is no cure , then fine. >>> pH may not be the answer as it doesn't Happen with TRIS buffer pH 7.6. >>> Thanks to every one >>> Rajesh >>> >>>

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Edward A. Berry
ery one Rajesh Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:35:45 -0400 From: dj...@cornell.edu <mailto:dj...@cornell.edu> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <mailto:CCP4BB@J

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES/seeding

2012-05-11 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
ops with more than 100 tiny needles with a tough membrane on it > has been frustrating as I end up loosing several drops to just to fish out > 1-2 needles. I am ready to try if there any trick left. > > Thanks for lots and lots of help. > > Regards, > Rajesh >

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES/seeding

2012-05-11 Thread Rajesh Kumar
Thanks. I will try. Rajesh Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:38:20 -0500 From: j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES/seeding To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK mitegen loops might help, particularly micromesh... JPK On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Rajesh Kumar wrote: Dear

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES/seeding

2012-05-11 Thread Jacob Keller
n (yet to collect data) but manipulating these > crystal drops with more than 100 tiny needles with a tough membrane on it > has been frustrating as I end up loosing several drops to just to fish out > 1-2 needles. I am ready to try if there any trick left. > > Thanks for lots and lots of

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES/seeding

2012-05-11 Thread Rajesh Kumar
rds,Rajesh Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 18:09:54 +0100 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES From: patr...@douglas.co.uk To: ccp4...@hotmail.com Rajesh How did you do the MMS? By hand or with a robot, and what screens did you use? and why did you change to HEPES out of interest? Patrick On 11 May 2012 18:

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Roger Rowlett
Almost assuredly you are getting zinc hydroxide precipitate. Zn(OH)2 will readily precipitate from solutions of alkaline Zn(II). Your problem is compounded by the fact that HEPES is a non-coordinating buffer, so it does not help solubilize the zinc ion. You might find a weakly coordinating buff

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Jacob Keller
not be the answer as it doesn't Happen with TRIS buffer pH 7.6. >> Thanks to every one >> Rajesh >> >> >> -- >> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:35:45 -0400 >> From: dj...@cornell.edu >>

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Rajesh Kumar
increase thickness or change the shape of very very thin needle crystals. Yes, I will try very less, 50uM.Thanks for helping me to understand.Rajesh > Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:53:53 -0400 > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES > From: liehy...@gmail.com > To: ccp4...@hotmail.com

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Katherine Sippel
pH may not be the answer as it doesn't Happen with TRIS buffer pH 7.6. > Thanks to every one > Rajesh > > > -- > Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:35:45 -0400 > From: dj...@cornell.edu > > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES > To: CCP4BB@JIS

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Pius Padayatti
pH is the culprit here Like some already mentioned change your pH to 6.4 and use a different buffer like cacodylate or you can use Zinc acetate in water pH still would be 6.4 from your last mail why would you add Zn to your initial hit condition is there any rationale? Padayatti On Fri, May 11,

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Rajesh Kumar
If there is no cure , then fine.pH may not be the answer as it doesn't Happen with TRIS buffer pH 7.6.Thanks to every oneRajesh Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:35:45 -0400 From: dj...@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK There

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Rajesh Kumar
many might have used this combination. ThanksRajesh Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 11:29:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES From: j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu To: ccp4...@hotmail.com CC: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk Try adding water first, so that you are not mixing concentrated Zn with

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread David Schuller
On 05/11/12 12:26, Rajesh Kumar wrote: Dear All, This question sounds simple but I dont know the answer. I was preparing a 24 well crystal screen. When I try to use 10 mM ZnSO4 with HEPES (pH 7.6) buffer it precipitates. I tried both ZnCl2 and Zn acetate the effect is same. I dont know why t

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Boaz Shaanan
-8-646-1710     From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Rajesh Kumar [ccp4...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 7:26 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES Dear All, This question sounds simple but I dont know the

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Jacob Keller
Try adding water first, so that you are not mixing concentrated Zn with concentrated HEPES. Also it depends what else is in your cocktail. JPK On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Rajesh Kumar wrote: > Dear All, > > This question sounds simple but I dont know the answer. > I was preparing a 24 we

[ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Rajesh Kumar
Dear All, This question sounds simple but I dont know the answer.I was preparing a 24 well crystal screen. When I try to use 10 mM ZnSO4 with HEPES (pH 7.6) buffer it precipitates. I tried both ZnCl2 and Zn acetate the effect is same. I dont know why this Zn in not compatible with HEPES.Could