f.
It was that way when I first learned ColdFusion.
Thanks,
Rick
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From: Dan G. Switzer, II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 8:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?
Rick,
>So the question, becomes
Rick,
>So the question, becomes... spend a lot of time now learning to implement
>jQuery
>and "Web 2.0" interfaces and functionality or wait for CF 8, see what it
>provides,
>and then just fill in any remaining gaps with "third-party" development?
A couple of quick points:
jQuery is more than ju
building apps. I work
incrementally and it drives me nuts.
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From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2007 9:57:18 AM
Subject: RE: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?
> I guess we'll disagree on this. Th
> Why shouldn't we be able to have that sort of power with distributed
> multiuser applications? There is no reason, other than inertia, why we
> can't.
Who says we don't? The apps that I built back in the early 90's worked
quite well across the Enterprise even before the Internet became
pervasi
> I guess we'll disagree on this. The evolution of libraries
> such as jQuery, Dojo & YUI! have made development using these
> technologies far too easy and with the adoption rates
> continuing to climb, I can't call them band-aids. Perhaps
> thats what they were when people initially did remot
Or Apollo. That's the whole point of it; freeing internet technologies
from the restrictions of the browser.
On 4/8/07, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If you need to build a desktop application, then use
> desktop development tools such as MS' suite of .Net tools.
>
> I'm still not convince
Hi Dave,
> Flex applications can work pretty well without any more bandwidth than a
> typical web application. The big limitation is the requirement of Flash
> Player 9, and related to that the inability to run Flex applications without
> a standard desktop computer.
I'll try that out with ScrapB
> I think Flex is a better solution for developing desktop-like
> applications that have a requirement of broadband service or
> will be focused on internal networks (similar to
> client/server apps). For a typical consumer-oriented website
> where you need to accommodate for a variety of conne
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From: James Holmes
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Sun Apr 08 03:14:07 2007
Subject: Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?
Of course Flex is one of the primary development platforms for Apollo...
On 4/8/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For sure, Fle
> And finally, Flex is a much better solution for applications than AJAX,
> which is a collection of band-aids applied to the sucking wound that is HTML
> interface development.
I think Flex is a better solution for developing desktop-like
applications that have a requirement of broadband service
Of course Flex is one of the primary development platforms for Apollo...
On 4/8/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For sure, Flex has some kick ass neat stuff and I can see where it does make
> sense (if I look hard enough), but I think that Apollo as an RIA makes more
> se
Thanks for the perspective, Jim...
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Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 2:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
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From: Paul Hastings
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Sat Apr 07 21:47:24 2007
Subject: Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wro
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
> "And finally, Flex is a much better solution for applications than AJAX,
> which is a collection of band-aids applied to the sucking wound that is HTML
> interface development."
>
> In your opinion :-)
ditto for yours that flex isn't so hot. we've done a lot of
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From: Dave Watts
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Sat Apr 07 22:16:44 2007
Subject: RE: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?
> I guess Flex is an option,
> I guess Flex is an option, but I've tried working with Flash
> with every version that has come out, and I've hated working
> with the Flash timeline.
> It's not that I'm unfamiliar with timelines... I've been
> using them edit video for the past 12 years. I just found
> the Flash interface
Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?
Rick,
Neil said it perfectly. Its good to know the ins and outs of Ajax but more
specifically, DOM manipulation. Ajax functionality is a very small aspect of
what everyone regards as Web 2.0-style development and whether you're using
jQuery, Prototy
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> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:32 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?
>
> Hi, all..
>
> Just wanted to throw this out for some perspective.
>
> For a few years I've been
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Subject: Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?
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Sent: Sat Apr 07 16:37:11 2007
Subject: Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?
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From: James Holmes
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Sat Apr 07 16:08:47 2007
Subject: Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?
If by "rubbish" you mean the most productive
Rick Faircloth wrote:
> I guess Flex is an option, but I've tried working with Flash with every
> version that has come out, and I've hated working with the Flash timeline.
the timeline has gone bye-bye as far as flex is concerned.
> why I would even consider it. And there also the face that I h
> Flex and AJAX both have their place and they can both be very uselful
> - they can even work with one another using the Flex-AJAX bridge.
Yep, very true. The only thing that Adobe has not effectively done is
clarify when either technology should be used. I really think that needs
to be address
Rick,
Neil said it perfectly. Its good to know the ins and outs of Ajax but
more specifically, DOM manipulation. Ajax functionality is a very small
aspect of what everyone regards as Web 2.0-style development and whether
you're using jQuery, Prototype or whatever CF8 provides, you need to
fami
#x27;m already
purchasing CF 8...
Rick
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From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 10:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?
Rick Faircloth wrote:
> For a few years I've been wanting t
Neil (RX) wrote:
> Coz it's rubbish :-)
>
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> From: Paul Hastings
> To: CF-Talk
> Sent: Sat Apr 07 15:22:14 2007
> Subject: Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?
>
> Rick Faircloth wrote:
> > For a few years I&#x
at Apr 07 15:22:14 2007
Subject: Re: A Question for Development: Ajax Now or Ajax Later?
Rick Faircloth wrote:
> For a few years I've been wanting to get in on the Ajax-style development.
why not flex?
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