Then perhaps the best solution is for you (or someone else) to write a
simple, clear web page detailing all the channels that are typically used to
announce projects. Perhaps also including some summary of the ideas and
concerns raised in this thread would be appropriate?
david
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:10:04 -0700 (PDT)
Brian Behlendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
> > If I remember correctly, Brian modified the settings of each
> > announce(ments)@.apache.org mailing lists to forward to
> > announce@apache.org automatically...
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 07:50:16 -0400
(Subject: Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org)
Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i believe you're missing the point. the issue is not the volume of
> email, it's imposing the burden on someone *else*. there are several
> peopl
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
>
> Ken, if you feel *burdens* for the moderations of XX mailing
> lists, please feel free to contact me. I think I can deal with
> 250-500 additional mails per day for now. (Now: 500-700 mails per day)
i believe you're missing the point. the issue is not the volume of
em
Hi,
I simply stole^Wborrowed the layout from Martins' Torque announcement. I
will put "Jakarta Turbine" in for the final release. Thanks for the
suggestion.
Regards
Henning
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 02:56, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:49:41 +0200
> Henning
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:52:58 -0400
Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This isn't nice. :-(
> henning, that's a judgement made from too little information.
> if you were responsible for assessing hundreds of daily messages
> to that address to see which should be moderated, you
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:49:41 +0200
Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Which should be documented somewhere (or I was too blind to see it).
>
> Regards
> Henning
Ditto: (+1)
Also, I think [EMAIL PROTECTED] can use the same script,
if the moderators of [EMAIL
> If I remember correctly, Brian modified the settings of each
> announce(ments)@.apache.org mailing lists to forward to
> announce@apache.org automatically... Right!?
It was discussed, but I don't believe that it was effected. Brian had some
concerns. See the community@ archives.
--- N
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
> If I remember correctly, Brian modified the settings of each
> announce(ments)@.apache.org mailing lists to forward to
> announce@apache.org automatically... Right!?
Nope, in fact I was arguing against it, unless someone crafts a message to
let the su
Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> now I know a reason:
>
> --- cut ---
> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org.
> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
> addresses.
> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>
> :
> Must be
Hi,
now I know a reason:
--- cut ---
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
:
Must be sent from an @apache.org address.
--- cut ---
This is
Which should be documented somewhere (or I was too blind to see it).
Regards
Henning
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 14:00, David Reid wrote:
> And a very sensible one at that!
>
> :)
>
> david
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rodent of Unusual Size" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
And a very sensible one at that!
:)
david
- Original Message -
From: "Rodent of Unusual Size" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org
[Fwd:Returnedpost for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> David Reid wrote:
> > A
* Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
>
> Wait, wait.
>
> If I remember correctly, Brian modified the settings of each
> announce(ments)@.apache.org mailing lists to forward to
> announce@apache.org automatically... Right!?
>
wrong.
-Thom
---
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 07:53:50 -0400
Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David Reid wrote:
> > As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily moderated
> > through your announcement...
>
> unless something has been changed, only mail originating from an
> @apache
David Reid wrote:
> As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily moderated
> through your announcement...
unless something has been changed, only mail originating from an @apache.org
address will even reach the announce@apache.org moderation queue. all other
sources will get
Wait, wait.
If I remember correctly, Brian modified the settings of each
announce(ments)@.apache.org mailing lists to forward to
announce@apache.org automatically... Right!?
Then, Henning does not have to CC to announce@apache.org, just
mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... don't you think so?! >> all
As I said, I was just looking on the web pages. Maybe we should update
them.
Regards
Henning
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 12:26, David Reid wrote:
> As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily moderated
> through your announcement...
>
> If you wish to sti
As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily moderated
through your announcement...
If you wish to stick to using the jakarta address them I don't mind and it
may reach more of your intended audience - just curious :)
david
- Original Message -
From: "Henning Schmie
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 10:36, David Reid wrote:
> Any reason why you didn't send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Because I looked at
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#Announcement
and got the intention that announcements@jakarta.apache.org is the right
address for jakarta announcements.
I did B
Any reason why you didn't send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
david
- Original Message -
From: "Henning Schmiedehausen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:07 PM
Subject: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd: Returnedpost
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hi,
>
> wh
Steven Noels wrote:
>
> You can also politely poll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
for most of the apache lists, that gets turned into a single
person when ezmlm [re]configures the list. it requires special
handling to change that to be the moderators. only four lists
are currently so configured: community-o
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
> But.. I assumed that "listowner != moderator"
> and most of the mail lists in apache.org were owned by
> 1. Mr. Jon Scott Stevens
> 2. Mr. Ken Coar
> 3. Mr. Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> 4. Mr. Pier Paulo Fumagalli
> right!?!?
>
> I am afraid that if th
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:14:57 +0200
Steven Noels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anyway, I think it will be important to make it easier for us
> > to find who are moderating XX mailing lists in the near future.
>
> You can also politely poll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ahh... right, right. Nice catch :)
Christian Geisert wrote:
Why don't you subscribe to the list (or I am missing something?)
Yes. ;-)
Some lists, like most announcements lists, are configured that all
message are moderated, even from subscribers. Or would like to receive
some Sys-Con spam on these...? ;-)
--
Steven Noels
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
Anyway, I think it will be important to make it easier for us
to find who are moderating XX mailing lists in the near future.
You can also politely poll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/
Outerthought - Open Source, Java &
Henning Schmiedehausen schrieb:
Hi,
who must I send this to if I want something to be put on the
announcement list? This lingered for a week and then got returned by the
mailing list program. :-(
Why don't you subscribe to the list (or I am missing something?)
Christian
* Brian Behlendorf wrote:
> I don't think it's acceptable for moderators to miss valid messages, even
> with the spam that comes through.
Agreed, but ...
> If anyone else has had valid messages rejected by moderators, please let
> the corresponding PMC be aware of that. If you don't get a respo
I don't think it's acceptable for moderators to miss valid messages, even
with the spam that comes through. However the last few weeks have been so
chaotic with mail systems that it wouldn't surprise me if they just missed
these, or the messages were lost along the way, or something. Anyways,
I
It is possible that the moderator of that list did not
moderate the mail.
# To tell the truth, I got bounced mail recently, too. :-)
Anyway, I think it will be important to make it easier for us
to find who are moderating XX mailing lists in the near future.
(Using committers module??)
-- Tetsu
Hi,
who must I send this to if I want something to be put on the
announcement list? This lingered for a week and then got returned by the
mailing list program. :-(
Regards
Henning
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