Re: The Cypherpunk's 1995 Archive has been forged, and what are we going to do about it?

2019-12-09 Thread rooty
Taser is a loser Taser is a loser Taser is a loser Original Message On Dec 9, 2019, 9:39 AM, Razer wrote: > On 12/8/19 8:50 PM, jim bell requested list members to spam and stalk people > who bailed from this list over two decades ago because scumbags like him > made this cy

Re: The Cypherpunk's 1995 Archive has been forged, and what are we going to do about it?

2019-12-09 Thread Razer
On 12/8/19 8:50 PM, jim bell requested list members to spam and stalk people who bailed from this list over two  decades ago because scumbags like him made this cyber-anarchist list useless as anything but a spam collector. I still want people to try to inform prior subscribers to the CP l

Re: Cypherpunks FOIAs [was Re: The Cypherpunk's 1995 Archive has been forged, and what are we going to do about it? (was:Re: Could someone add news of Cypherpunks Archive...]

2019-11-25 Thread jim bell
On Monday, November 25, 2019, 11:15:34 AM PST, coderman wrote: ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, November 25, 2019 6:52 PM, jim bell wrote: ... >the denial using Glomar exception is here:  https://cdn.muckrock.com/foia_files/2019/02/11/1-29-19_MR67282_REJ-G_106095.pdf >>This

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2019-11-25 Thread jim bell
On Monday, November 25, 2019, 10:52:43 AM PST, jim bell wrote: My comments inline:            Jim Bell On Monday, November 25, 2019, 08:48:49 AM PST, coderman wrote: ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, November 25, 2019 6:34 AM, jim bell wrote: ... Can I see the denial

Re: Cypherpunks FOIAs [was Re: The Cypherpunk's 1995 Archive has been forged, and what are we going to do about it? (was:Re: Could someone add news of Cypherpunks Archive...]

2019-11-25 Thread coderman
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, November 25, 2019 6:52 PM, jim bell wrote: ... >>the denial using Glomar exception is here: > > https://cdn.muckrock.com/foia_files/2019/02/11/1-29-19_MR67282_REJ-G_106095.pdf > > This document doesn't say why the Glomar exception is applicable. It

Re: Cypherpunks FOIAs [was Re: The Cypherpunk's 1995 Archive has been forged, and what are we going to do about it? (was:Re: Could someone add news of Cypherpunks Archive...]

2019-11-24 Thread coderman
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, November 24, 2019 10:04 PM, jim bell wrote: ... > Notice that the exception called "Glomar" refers to the non-release of > information that would tend to show that a specific person or persons were > under some sort of criminal investigation. > From:

Re: The Cypherpunk's 1995 Archive has been forged, and what are we going to do about it? (was:Re: Could someone add news of Cypherpunks Archive...

2019-11-24 Thread jim bell
ation I have, and sorry I can’t help you. On Nov 22, 2019, at 23:19, jim bell wrote: - Forwarded Message - From: jim bell To: "cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org" ; grarpamp ; Tom Busby ; rlac...@venona.com ; rlac...@mit.edu ; rlac...@cloudflare.com ; rlac...@hotmail.com ; rlac...@gm

Re: Cypherpunks FOIAs [was Re: The Cypherpunk's 1995 Archive has been forged, and what are we going to do about it? (was:Re: Could someone add news of Cypherpunks Archive...]

2019-11-24 Thread jim bell
On Friday, November 22, 2019, 09:14:30 PM PST, coderman wrote: >note that prior requests for cypherpunks (not those years) returned >unsuccessful results from DoJ and NSA: >DoJ -> No Responsive Documents https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/cypherpunks-67284/ >

Re: The Cypherpunk's 1995 Archive has been forged, and what are we going to do about it? (was:Re: Could someone add news of Cypherpunks Archive...

2019-11-24 Thread jim bell
Yes, it looks like this:  https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6553646-Socialmediamonitoring.html#document/p1     will be an excellent case to limit the government's ability to assert various forms of secrecy.   The FOIA could be filed in the Northern District of California, in order to ensu

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2019-11-23 Thread jim bell
Did you see this recent upload from me: jim bell To:CypherPunks Nov 22 at 11:54 PM Judge Says The FBI Can't Keep Refusing To Confirm Or Deny The Existence Of Social Media Monitoring Documents How will this affect FOIA applications on Cypherpunks data? That is a case

Re: The Cypherpunk's 1995 Archive has been forged, and what are we going to do about it? (was:Re: Could someone add news of Cypherpunks Archive...

2019-11-23 Thread Douglas Lucas
Among the exceptions likely to be cited would be privacy, national security, ongoing litigation, etc. On 2019-11-24 03:06, Douglas Lucas wrote: > Via MuckRock I've filed nearly 100 requests: > https://www.muckrock.com/accounts/profile/douglaslucas/ > > Several of my requests have returned documen

Re: The Cypherpunk's 1995 Archive has been forged, and what are we going to do about it? (was:Re: Could someone add news of Cypherpunks Archive...

2019-11-23 Thread Douglas Lucas
Via MuckRock I've filed nearly 100 requests: https://www.muckrock.com/accounts/profile/douglaslucas/ Several of my requests have returned documents, and a few have formed the basis of articles by me, e.g this one regarding our gentlehearted friends at Stratfor -- https://web.archive.org/web/201604

Re: Cypherpunks FOIAs [was Re: The Cypherpunk's 1995 Archive has been forged, and what are we going to do about it? (was:Re: Could someone add news of Cypherpunks Archive...]

2019-11-22 Thread coderman
note that prior requests for cypherpunks (not those years) returned unsuccessful results from DoJ and NSA: DoJ -> No Responsive Documents https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/cypherpunks-67284/ NSA -> Glomar https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/cypherpunks

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2019-11-22 Thread coderman
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, November 22, 2019 9:35 PM, jim bell wrote: > To Ryan Carboni, > It looks like you are familiar with the practice of writing and filing > Freedom of Information Act requests. > https://www.muckrock.com/accounts/profile/ryaz/ > > Given that these reque

Re: The Cypherpunk's 1995 Archive has been forged, and what are we going to do about it? (was:Re: Could someone add news of Cypherpunks Archive...

2019-11-22 Thread jim bell
What to do? First, confirm with "enough"   1995-96 users of the CP list in that there is, indeed, an egregious lack of emails that have a few strings:  "jim bell", "jimb...@pacifier.com", " ap ", and "assassination politics".  They will remember what the 1995 archive should have contained.   Re

Re: The Cypherpunk's 1995 Archive has been forged, and what are we going to do about it? (was:Re: Could someone add news of Cypherpunks Archive...

2019-11-22 Thread jim bell
ac...@cloudflare.com ; rlac...@hotmail.com ; rlac...@gmail.com ; rlac...@cryptoseal.com ; dec...@well.com Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019, 10:59:03 AM PSTSubject: Re: The Cypherpunk's 1995 Archive has been forged, and what are we going to do about it? (was:Re: Could someone add news of Cy

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2019-11-22 Thread Cari Machet
Ok what can be done about this? On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 at 15:35, jim bell wrote: > To Ryan Carboni, > It looks like you are familiar with the practice of writing and filing > Freedom of Information Act requests. > https://www.muckrock.com/accounts/profile/ryaz/ > > Given that these requests can tak

Re: The Cypherpunk's 1995 Archive has been forged, and what are we going to do about it? (was:Re: Could someone add news of Cypherpunks Archive...

2019-11-22 Thread jim bell
To Ryan Carboni,It looks like you are familiar with the practice of writing and filing Freedom of Information Act requests.  https://www.muckrock.com/accounts/profile/ryaz/   Given that these requests can take a long time, I think it would be appropriate to make such a filing for any Cyperpunks

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2019-11-22 Thread jim bell
https://rocketreach.co/ryan-lackey-email_255468 - @mit.edu - @venona.com - @cloudflare.com - @hotmail.com - @cryptoseal.com - @gmail.com I am including Ryan Lackey in this thread, since he seems to have been involved in the Cypherpunks archive during the relevant time fr

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2019-11-20 Thread jim bell
Still no response.  And, I don't see any enthusiastic efforts from others currently on CP to contact any other journalists or previous CP people to help uncover this mystery.   Will this become embarrassing?   Yes.                   Jim Bell On Monday, November 18, 2019, 10:42:26 AM PST, j

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2019-11-18 Thread jim bell
Well, I sent out an email to Declan McCullagh,  dec...@well.com,  and so far no reply.   At least openly, there would not appear to be any reason he should resist the idea of returning and helping us figure out what happened with the faked 1995 archive.  He apparently continues to write news ar

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2019-11-17 Thread jim bell
The 1996 Cypherpunks Archive, at least the raw Venona files, contain the first 6 Parts of the AP essay.   Here is why:   >From cypherpunks@MHonArc.venona Wed Dec 17 23:17:14 2003 From: jim bell Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 08:44:56 +0800 To: cypherpu...@toad.com Subject: Ooops! Sincerest apologies. M

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2019-11-17 Thread jim bell
Tom Busby, Archivist for the Cypherpunks Archive: Please tell us what you have been doing about this forgery, and what do you intend to do in the future.  See the material below.  I suggest contacting the people who claim to have been involved with generation and the maintenance of the material