Hey don't forget you can still buy a smart card reader from that most
cypherpunkish of babes BRITNEY SPEARS ! Only $30 !
https://www.visiblevisitors.com/mltest/order_form.asp
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James A. Donald>
> > Increasingly however, we see smartcard interfaces sold for
> > PCs. What for, I wonder?
On 24 Sep 2002 at 1:41, Bill Stewart wrote:
> I'm not convinced that the number of people selling them is
> closely related to the number of people buying; this could be
> ano
On Friday 27 September 2002 20:22, Adam Stenseth wrote:
> But then wouldn't all those lecherous pirates just copy works by
> hand or, *gasp*, transcribe them with typewriters? And musicians(and
> labels) can be deprived of their well-deserved income with nothing
> more than a musical instr
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On 27 Sep 2002 at 19:53, Harmon Seaver wrote:
> Forget the pencils and pens, just ban paper.
The Chinese empire did in fact take that measure, making paper
a government monopoly, prohibiting private production and use
of paper, private knowledge of how to produce paper, and
castrating al
On Fri, Sep 27, 2002 at 05:22:23PM -0700, Adam Stenseth wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Steve Furlong wrote:
>
> > No, that won't do it. People could still spread their dissentious ideas
> > by telephone, and photocopy the intellectual property of content
> > providers. We need to ban electricity,
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Steve Furlong wrote:
> No, that won't do it. People could still spread their dissentious ideas
> by telephone, and photocopy the intellectual property of content
> providers. We need to ban electricity, then the problem goes away...
But then wouldn't all those lecher
On Friday 27 September 2002 18:53, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
> Besides, its computers we have to ban, then the internet problem goes
> away too, see...
No, that won't do it. People could still spread their dissentious ideas
by telephone, and photocopy the intellectual property of content
prov
At 02:39 PM 9/27/02 -0500, Lisa wrote:
>I didn't suggest that they should be banned. I simply stated that this
>was one consumer usage of the smart card reader.
Take a stress pill, Dave (and pass one this way). B.L. was clearly
being
sarcastic/rhetorical and no one following the thread would t
At 07:53 PM 09/27/2002 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote:
> Forget the pencils and pens, just ban paper. Or perhaps a step in the right
>direction would be to ban all paper except that made from hemp, thereby
>solving
>numerous problems at the stroke of a (gasp) pen.
You don't need to do that - just
On Fri, Sep 27, 2002 at 07:27:36PM -0400, Steve Furlong wrote:
> On Friday 27 September 2002 18:53, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
>
> > Besides, its computers we have to ban, then the internet problem goes
> > away too, see...
>
> No, that won't do it. People could still spread their dissentious id
I didn't suggest that they should be banned. I simply stated that this
was one consumer usage of the smart card reader.
On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Ben Laurie wrote:
> Lisa wrote:
> > They are also actively used to modify DirecTV & Dish Network access cards
> > to steal service.
>
> Damn. We'd bett
I wrote:
>The FAQ handwaves the details, so it could be either 1 or 3. Can someone who
>has one of these things try reading the ATR off it?
He Who has No Shame [0] reports that it's a GemClub memory card, which is
reasonably similar to the old SLE4428-style cards: 256 bytes of memory, some
of i
"James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>On 25 Sep 2002 at 18:36, Neil Johnson wrote:
>>Hey don't forget you can still buy a smart card reader from
>>that most cypherpunkish of babes BRITNEY SPEARS ! Only $30 !
>>
>> https://www.visiblevisitors.com/mltest/order_form.asp
>
>A previous pos
"James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Peter Gutmann wrote:
>>All they're doing is reading a URL off a USB dongle
>>(technically a 256-byte I2C memory card plugged into a
>>reader, but in effect the combination is a USB dongle).
>>That's a no-brainer, I can do that with two wires taped to
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Neil Johnson wrote:
> > > Hey don't forget you can still buy a smart card reader
> > > from that most cypherpunkish of babes BRITNEY SPEARS !
> > > Only $30 !
> > >
> > > https://www.visiblevisitors.com/mltest/order_form.asp
James A. Donald:
> > A previous poster suggested that the sma
>At most, it'll contain a name+password for HTTP basic-auth (and to identify
>users to the site so they can be connected with the info they supplied at
>purchase time). You've spent too long in the crypto world.
Having poked around in the FAQ (I can't believe I'm wasting my time on this),
it cou
Lisa wrote:
> They are also actively used to modify DirecTV & Dish Network access cards
> to steal service.
Damn. We'd better ban them then. I've heard this Interweb thingy is used
to steal content - should we ban that, too?
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They are also actively used to modify DirecTV & Dish Network access cards
to steal service.
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On 25 Sep 2002 at 18:36, Neil Johnson wrote:
> Hey don't forget you can still buy a smart card reader from
> that most cypherpunkish of babes BRITNEY SPEARS ! Only $30 !
>
> https://www.visiblevisitors.com/mltest/order_form.asp
A previous poster suggested that the smart card industry
Hey don't forget you can still buy a smart card reader from that most
cypherpunkish of babes BRITNEY SPEARS ! Only $30 !
https://www.visiblevisitors.com/mltest/order_form.asp
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James A. Donald>
> > Increasingly however, we see smartcard interfaces sold for
> > PCs. What for, I wonder?
On 24 Sep 2002 at 1:41, Bill Stewart wrote:
> I'm not convinced that the number of people selling them is
> closely related to the number of people buying; this could be
> anoth
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 07:12:47PM +1200, Peter Gutmann wrote:
> "James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >Increasingly however, we see smartcard interfaces sold for PCs. What for, I
> >wonder?
A previous company I worked for made a secure smart-card reader
chip/system that used smart
"James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Increasingly however, we see smartcard interfaces sold for PCs. What for, I
>wonder?
Companies buy a few readers for their developers who write software to work
with the cards. They may even roll out a few in pilots, and put out a stack of
press re
At 04:34 PM 09/23/2002 -0700, James A. Donald wrote:
>The biggest application of smart cards that I know of are
>anonymous phone minutes.
They're also used for non-cellular phone minutes -
Ladatel in Mexico is a big user, and I've worked with some
British Telecom folks whose business cards are al
At 01:41 AM 9/24/02 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote:
>They're also used for non-cellular phone minutes -
>Ladatel in Mexico is a big user, and I've worked with some
>British Telecom folks whose business cards are also
>1-pound telephone smartcards.
Good lord, they only weigh mere grams here in the sta
> Increasingly however, we see smartcard interfaces sold for PCs.
> What for, I wonder?
You'll see them used to carry certificates for digital signatures in
business applications. A firm I used to work for, eOriginal, Inc., uses
them for document signing under the American electronic signature
le
On Monday 23 September 2002 06:34 pm, James A. Donald wrote:
> So I did a google search for web pages selling "chipdrive
> extern" (the most popular smartcard interface for PCs) Seems
> like this is big business -- that huge numbers of these widgets
> are made and sold. yet most of the web pages
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The biggest application of smart cards that I know of are
anonymous phone minutes. In Australia, I walked into a
hardware store in the middle of the back of beyond, and asked
the sales kid about a cellular phone for someone who would not
be in Australia very long. He promptly urged me to
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