Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-11 Thread mtms
On 11 May 2005, 00:40, Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because its already been done. mtms announced earlier that he's keeping a mirror of our old non-free. And he's not going to get sued by anyone either. Wait a mo! Not me, bytekeeper.as28747.net keeps the mirror. I'm not involved with

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-11 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 1:59am, mtms wrote: On 11 May 2005, 00:40, Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because its already been done. mtms announced earlier that he's keeping a mirror of our old non-free. And he's not going to get sued by anyone either. Wait a mo! Not me,

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
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Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sunday 08 May 2005 4:23pm, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Ed Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sunday 08 May 2005 09:27, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it.

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-11 Thread Jaime Ochoa Malagón
Hi everybody, I'm only have a doubt, if someone make a mirror of the official debian (including non-free) and all that packages are ditributed is in danger to being sued? Accordingly with Goswin that's nothing about complain, only the main server of the distribution don't have non-free, the main

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-11 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Ed Cogburn | We ARE Debian for Heaven's sake! I can't see that you've done anything at all for the AMD64 port, nor are you a DD. Please go troll somewhere else. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-11 Thread Alexander Rapp
Ed Cogburn wrote: Because its already been done. mtms announced earlier that he's keeping a mirror of our old non-free. And he's not going to get sued by anyone either. If there's already a mirror available of amd64 non-free, then what on earth are you complaining about? Just use the

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Sunday 08 May 2005 9:27am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the other arch! If this is not the case please explain why. Without that

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Matthew Garrett
Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NO ONE IS GOING TO CARE ABOUT OUR NON-FREE! You're entirely right. After having to read that lot, I'd be impressed if anyone cared about making sure amd64 shipped with non-free. -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sunday 08 May 2005 9:27am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the other arch! If this is not the

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Rafael Rodríguez
I don't know why some of you are making all that noise... if I have understood correctly, non-free will be made available after sarge release (which is supposed to happen within 3 or 4 weeks)... so... why bother the developers instead of thaking them for all the work they've already made?

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 11:19am, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sunday 08 May 2005 9:27am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: In fact, looking through the non-free docs section, most of that can go in right now because they don't require anyone's permission to

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 12:44pm, Rafael Rodríguez wrote: I don't know why some of you are making all that noise... if I have understood correctly, non-free will be made available after sarge release (which is supposed to happen within 3 or 4 weeks)... so... why bother the developers instead of

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 05:44:29PM +0100, Rafael Rodr?guez wrote: I don't know why some of you are making all that noise... if I have understood correctly, non-free will be made available after sarge release (which is supposed to happen within 3 or 4 weeks)... so... why bother the developers

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 01:12:22PM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: Just trying to be helpful and point out to those developers that's there no reason to hold back non-free at all. There isn't a problem, except the one they are conjuring up. Besides, according to Goswin in the post you responded

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 01:07:30PM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: On Tuesday 10 May 2005 11:19am, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sunday 08 May 2005 9:27am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: In fact, looking through the non-free docs section, most of that can go in

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 1:33pm, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 01:12:22PM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: Just trying to be helpful and point out to those developers that's there no reason to hold back non-free at all. There isn't a problem, except the one they are conjuring up.

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 01:48:14PM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: If you had read my response to Goswin, you would know we aren't talking about release dates for anything, I'm talking about Sid, which will eventually become Etch, but obviously will exist for a long time before Etch does. :) The

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Javier Kohen
Ed, El mar, 10-05-2005 a las 13:48 -0400, Ed Cogburn escribi: If you had read my response to Goswin, you would know we aren't talking about release dates for anything, I'm talking about Sid, which will eventually become Etch, but obviously will exist for a long time before Etch does. :)

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Alexander Rapp
Ed Cogburn wrote: If you had read my response to Goswin, you would know we aren't talking about release dates for anything, I'm talking about Sid, which will eventually become Etch, but obviously will exist for a long time before Etch does. :) The issue here is just the co-location of

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread mtms
On 10 May 2005, 17:19, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just establish the non-free section and move everything over. If anyone complains then just drop the package they're complaining about. Of course, NO ONE is going to complain since they know we will become Debian soon

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 08:13:39PM +0200, mtms wrote: Just out of curiosity, are pine sources distributed in official Debian Sarge? (the usual yes/no reply will suffice :)) As far as I can tell it is not. pine-tracker is the closest thing I can find in sarge.

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 01:07:30PM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: On Tuesday 10 May 2005 11:19am, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Seriously, get some patience and don't inflame the situation please. Things like most of that is of zero help in deciding what can go in and what not. We know most of it

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tuesday 10 May 2005 12:44pm, Rafael Rodríguez wrote: I don't know why some of you are making all that noise... if I have understood correctly, non-free will be made available after sarge release (which is supposed to happen within 3 or 4 weeks)... so...

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tuesday 10 May 2005 1:33pm, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 01:12:22PM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: Just trying to be helpful and point out to those developers that's there no reason to hold back non-free at all. There isn't a problem,

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10285 March 1977, Ed Cogburn wrote: Will you pay us for the work and cover legal fees if any should arise? Sure. Because any rational person knows it won't happen. Laywers arent rationale. Give us one reasonable example of why some one would waste time and money to sue the

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes: On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 08:13:39PM +0200, mtms wrote: Just out of curiosity, are pine sources distributed in official Debian Sarge? (the usual yes/no reply will suffice :)) As far as I can tell it is not. pine-tracker is the closest thing I

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Ed Cogburn said: On Tuesday 10 May 2005 12:44pm, Rafael Rodríguez wrote: I don't know why some of you are making all that noise... if I have understood correctly, non-free will be made available after sarge release (which is supposed to happen within 3 or 4

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 2:09pm, Alexander Rapp wrote: Ed Cogburn wrote: If you had read my response to Goswin, you would know we aren't talking about release dates for anything, I'm talking about Sid, which will eventually become Etch, but obviously will exist for a long time before Etch

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 3:22pm, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10285 March 1977, Ed Cogburn wrote: Will you pay us for the work and cover legal fees if any should arise? Sure. Because any rational person knows it won't happen. Laywers arent rationale. Give us one reasonable example of why

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Sunday 08 May 2005 4:23pm, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Ed Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sunday 08 May 2005 09:27, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. That was the point made by Ed Cogburn.

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Cameron Patrick
Ed Cogburn wrote: Note: non-free is NOT provided yet. We need to decide what we do with it, as we may be forbidden to distribute some of the software in it (we aren't Debian). Wait a second, if you *aren't* Debian, it should be *easier* for you to provide non-free, not harder.

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10283 March 1977, Ed Cogburn wrote: Note: non-free is NOT provided yet. We need to decide what we do with it, as we may be forbidden to distribute some of the software in it (we aren't Debian). Wait a second, if you *aren't* Debian, it should be *easier* for you to provide non-free,

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Ed Tomlinson
On Sunday 08 May 2005 05:02, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10283 March 1977, Ed Cogburn wrote: Note: non-free is NOT provided yet. We need to decide what we do with it, as we may be forbidden to distribute some of the software in it (we aren't Debian). Wait a second, if you *aren't* Debian,

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the other arch! If this is not the case please explain why. Without that explanation I am forced to agree with Ed - the

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the other arch! If this is not the case please explain why. Without that explanation I am forced to agree with Ed -

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Ed Tomlinson
On Sunday 08 May 2005 09:27, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the other arch! If this is not the case please explain why. Without

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ed Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sunday 08 May 2005 09:27, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the other arch! If this is not

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello List, one additional remark: As main and contrib archives are now available on amd64.debian.net it would be quite useful to state the new url a) in a new version of the debian-.amd64 faq/howto document and b) in the topic of the IRC channel #debian-amd64 in the freenode network to prevent

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-06 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Max [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joerg Jaspert wrote: Hi As announced earlier the Debian AMD64 archive moved away from alioth the weekend from 30. April til today, 2. May. But what happened with http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/openoffice.org/ ? It seemed to be moved away from alioth

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-06 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello List, one additional remark: As main and contrib archives are now available on amd64.debian.net it would be quite useful to state the new url a) in a new version of the debian-.amd64 faq/howto document and b) in the topic of the IRC channel

Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-06 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Hi As announced earlier the Debian AMD64 archive moved away from alioth on the weekend from April 30 til today, May 2. Well, we are still polishing some bits, but hey - 99% of it works. For the impatient here are the important things you need to know: - Modify /etc/apt/sources.list to include

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-06 Thread Pete
Joerg Jaspert wrote: There will be multiple mirrors, yes. Already mirroring are bytekeeper.as28747.net and bach.hpc2n.umu.se I already got asked by some others here from europe and from asia. (No, i havent lost your mails, you get the answer tomorrow. :) ) They will be added Wednesday evening (my

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-06 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10282 March 1977, Pete wrote: (And as always: More mirrors are always good, so just mail me if you want to be a mirror and get pushes whenever there are changes.) Anybody know if there's going to be a mirror in or near Australia at all? The mirrors are all quite far away from me here...

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-06 Thread John Verhoeven
On Sat, 7 May 2005 07:16 am, Pete wrote: Anybody know if there's going to be a mirror in or near Australia at all? The mirrors are all quite far away from me here... I have asked the sysadmins at planetmirror.com to mirror it. The old version was being mirrored. We've chatted with the project

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-06 Thread Pete
John Verhoeven wrote: I have asked the sysadmins at planetmirror.com to mirror it. The old version was being mirrored (see below). We've chatted with the project maintainers, and they're happy for us to become a mirror. I've started a sync, and the archive should be available soon from

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-05 Thread Max
Joerg Jaspert wrote: Hi As announced earlier the Debian AMD64 archive moved away from alioth the weekend from 30. April til today, 2. May. But what happened with http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/openoffice.org/ ? It seemed to be moved away from alioth also but I cannot find it at

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-04 Thread Olleg Samoylov
Joerg Jaspert wrote: For the impatient here are the important things you need to know: - Modify /etc/apt/sources.list to read like deb http://amd64.debian.net/debian/ DIST main contrib ftp://amd64.debian.net/debian work too. Is correct to use it? -- Olleg Samoylov smime.p7s Description: S/MIME

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Olleg Samoylov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joerg Jaspert wrote: For the impatient here are the important things you need to know: - Modify /etc/apt/sources.list to read like deb http://amd64.debian.net/debian/ DIST main contrib ftp://amd64.debian.net/debian work too. Is correct to use it?

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-04 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:31:58PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: ftp://amd64.debian.net/debian work too. Is correct to use it? If you must. Http is prefered by almost everyone as it doesn't require makeing a new connection for every file and is thus faster and firewall friendlier. Now I'm

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-04 Thread Sven Mueller
Stephan Seitz wrote on 04/05/2005 17:45: On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:31:58PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: ftp://amd64.debian.net/debian work too. Is correct to use it? If you must. Http is prefered by almost everyone as it doesn't require makeing a new connection for every file and is

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Stephan Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:31:58PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: ftp://amd64.debian.net/debian work too. Is correct to use it? If you must. Http is prefered by almost everyone as it doesn't require makeing a new connection for every file and is thus

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-04 Thread Bob Proulx
Stephan Seitz wrote: On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:31:58PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: ftp://amd64.debian.net/debian work too. Is correct to use it? If you must. Http is prefered by almost everyone as it doesn't require makeing a new connection for every file and is thus faster and

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-03 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10278 March 1977, Stephen Frost wrote: * Joerg Jaspert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: We also intend to offer a push-mirror service for interested mirrors, so if you are an interested mirror admin please contact me and I will come back to you with further instructions, as soon as we are sure

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-03 Thread Petr Sebor
Hello, Is there any chance that http://amd64.debian.net is going to be reachable via IPv6? Regards, Petr -- Petr Sebor / SCS Software [ http://www.scssoft.com ] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-03 Thread Stephen Frost
* Joerg Jaspert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 10278 March 1977, Stephen Frost wrote: * Joerg Jaspert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: We also intend to offer a push-mirror service for interested mirrors, so if you are an interested mirror admin please contact me and I will come back to you

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-03 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Stephen Frost [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Joerg Jaspert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 10278 March 1977, Stephen Frost wrote: * Joerg Jaspert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: We also intend to offer a push-mirror service for interested mirrors, so if you are an interested mirror admin please

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 08:27:46AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10278 March 1977, Stephen Frost wrote: * Joerg Jaspert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: We also intend to offer a push-mirror service for interested mirrors, so if you are an interested mirror admin please contact me and I will

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-03 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10278 March 1977, Stephen Frost wrote: We also intend to offer a push-mirror service for interested mirrors, so if you are an interested mirror admin please contact me and I will come back to you with further instructions, as soon as we are sure our archive is clean. What about for

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-03 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10278 March 1977, Petr Sebor wrote: Is there any chance that http://amd64.debian.net is going to be reachable via IPv6? At the moment - no. Not yet possible. Just ask your local ipv6 mirror to mirror us. :) -- bye Joerg HE Lalalala ... Ich bin die Sponsoren-Schlampe - Wer hat heute Lust?

Re: AMD64 archive move

2005-05-03 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10279 March 1977, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Is there any chance that http://amd64.debian.net is going to be reachable via IPv6? At the moment - no. Not yet possible. Just ask your local ipv6 mirror to mirror us. :) Eh, of course if he has ipv4 too. :) -- bye Joerg Some AM to his NM on [11