Re: smart fans

2021-09-03 Thread Emanuel Berg
David Christensen wrote: >> OK, changed. > > Your data format still has issues. You seem to have got the old file again, check it out again, because some of those issues have already been mentioned/fixed: https://dataswamp.org/~incal/ebchw/cpu.txt -- underground experts united https://datasw

Re: icewm anomaly after bullseye upgrade

2021-09-03 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, 3 Sep 2021, Michael Lange wrote: according to https://ice-wm.org/man/icewm-preferences the syntax for using a bold font should rather be: ActiveTaskBarFontNameXft=”sans-serif:size=12:bold” . Ah. RTFM still applies. That did the trick for me. Thank You Sir! I have some doubt though

Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing?

2021-09-03 Thread Richard Hector
On 4/09/21 2:17 am, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: You might consider using bookwork rather than testing, however. Or bookworm, even. Richard

Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing?

2021-09-03 Thread Richard Forst
I will change to testing with all keyword switched to testing because my case is more often needing to use newer version software compared to stable, which also works fine w/t a problem for most of time. Thanks for all your help, and advice! Appreciate it! Sep 4, 2021, 09:30 by riveravaldezm.

Proper way to add per-user profile under nix

2021-09-03 Thread Pankaj Jangid
I have installed ‘nix-setup-systemd’. And I was on the getting started page of nix website. In the sample app, ‘nix-build’ gave me the following error: --8<---cut here---start->8--- warning: Nix search path entry '/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/pankaj/channels/

Re: Sound input source detected but not capturing

2021-09-03 Thread Pankaj Jangid
Marko Randjelovic writes: > Did you make sure: > > 1. correct device is set to record from > 2. recording is enabled > 3. input volume is large enough I guess I have only one device so there is nothing to set. How is recording enabled? Do I need to add myself to some group? I am member of foll

Re: smart fans

2021-09-03 Thread Emanuel Berg
David Christensen wrote: > Feeding the raw data into LibreOffice Calc was problematic > -- header line field names do not have a one-to-one with > data line field values. I reworked the header line as > follows: > > time, governor, processes, CPU_temperature, system_load, > CPU_fan_spe

Re: smart fans

2021-09-03 Thread David Christensen
On 9/3/21 3:05 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: David Christensen wrote: Feeding the raw data into LibreOffice Calc was problematic OK, changed. Your data format still has issues. This is what LibreOffice Calc wants: time,governor,processes,CPU_temperature,system_load,CPU_fan_speed,core1_freq,

Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing?

2021-09-03 Thread riveravaldez
On 9/3/21, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-09-03 at 15:16, Brian wrote: > >> On Fri 03 Sep 2021 at 13:40:52 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 06:24:31PM +0100, Brian wrote: > >>> (...) >>> In the absence of "pinning", using the two lines that The Wanderer >>> posted would gi

Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing?

2021-09-03 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-09-03 at 15:16, Brian wrote: > On Fri 03 Sep 2021 at 13:40:52 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 06:24:31PM +0100, Brian wrote: >>> Surely - if you have a package installed from a previous release, >>> it does not get removed simply because testing does not have it?

Re: Why ``color_prompt`` is only set for ``xterm``?

2021-09-03 Thread Mark Neyhart
On 9/2/21 5:45 PM, piorunz wrote: > On 03/09/2021 01:34, David Wright wrote: >> (I use my own customisations for distinct colours on each host, >> and inverse colours for root's prompt.) > > Can you please share your root prompt invocation? Thanks! > In /root/.bashrc I use this to give a red pro

Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing?

2021-09-03 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Sep 2021 at 13:40:52 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 06:24:31PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 03 Sep 2021 at 10:40:32 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib > > > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testi

Re: Sound input source detected but not capturing

2021-09-03 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Fri, 3 Sep 2021 20:48:52 +0200 Marko Randjelovic wrote: > If you are not sure send the output of command 'amixer' so we can check. In fact, unless you have only one sound device, the command should be 'amixer -cN' where N is the number of your sound card and can change after reboot. So first

Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing?

2021-09-03 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-09-03 at 13:40, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 06:24:31PM +0100, Brian wrote: > >> On Fri 03 Sep 2021 at 10:40:32 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: >> >>> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free >>> contrib deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main >>>

Re: gcc-10: options order important?

2021-09-03 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2021-09-03 12:24 +0200, Piotr A. Dybczyński wrote: > Hi, > > in contrary to previous versions, now in Debian 11 with gcc-10: > > gcc aa.c -lm -o aa works, but > > gcc -lm aa.c -o aa does not work, saying: > > /usr/bin/ld: /tmp/ccWyhudO.o: in function `main': > aa.c:(.text+0

Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing?

2021-09-03 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-09-03 at 13:06, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 10:40:32AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> I have been running with (e.g.) >> >> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib >> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib >> >>

Re: APT testing and unstabe Firefox: can't find newest version from unstable

2021-09-03 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2021-09-03 19:05 +0200, Daniel M. wrote: > I'm running debian testing ("bookworm" at the moment) and have firefox > 88 installed from unstable. My sources.list contains testing and > unstable main, contrib and non-free lines and I have pinning set up to > 900 testing, 500 unstable. Default-Rele

Re: Sound input source detected but not capturing

2021-09-03 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Fri, 03 Sep 2021 22:52:45 +0530 Pankaj Jangid wrote: > I have a fresh Bullseye installation on a laptop. Sound output is > working. But the input is not working. The device is detected. > > --8<---cut here---start->8--- > $ arecord -l > List of CAPTURE

Re: gcc-10: options order important?

2021-09-03 Thread tomas
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 12:59:27PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 02:12:46PM +0100, Tixy wrote: > > > A man page a found online [1] says linking happens as Greg described, > > > and this is true looking at a 6 year old copy of that page on > > > archive.org. So seems strange

Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing?

2021-09-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 06:24:31PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 03 Sep 2021 at 10:40:32 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib > > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib > Surely - if you have a package installed

Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing?

2021-09-03 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Sep 2021 at 10:40:32 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: [...] > Are you sure about that last part? > > I have been running with (e.g.) > > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib > > for over a dec

Sound input source detected but not capturing

2021-09-03 Thread Pankaj Jangid
I have a fresh Bullseye installation on a laptop. Sound output is working. But the input is not working. The device is detected. --8<---cut here---start->8--- $ arecord -l List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC236 A

APT testing and unstabe Firefox: can't find newest version from unstable

2021-09-03 Thread Daniel M.
Hi everyone, I'm running debian testing ("bookworm" at the moment) and have firefox 88 installed from unstable. My sources.list contains testing and unstable main, contrib and non-free lines and I have pinning set up to 900 testing, 500 unstable. Default-Release is set to "testing". The debian pa

Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing?

2021-09-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 10:40:32AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > I have been running with (e.g.) > > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib > > for over a decade, and [...] there have been some problems

Re: gcc-10: options order important?

2021-09-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 02:12:46PM +0100, Tixy wrote: > > A man page a found online [1] says linking happens as Greg described, > > and this is true looking at a 6 year old copy of that page on > > archive.org. So seems strange that for many years my Makefiles have > > worked with Libraries specif

Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing?

2021-09-03 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 03/09/2021 11:40, The Wanderer wrote: On 2021-09-03 at 10:17, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 04:11:49PM +0200, Richard Forst wrote: If you change all instances of bullseye -> testing, then you are not mixing. Go ahead with that, modulo the standard caveats associated with

Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing?

2021-09-03 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 04:25:39PM +0100, piorunz wrote: > On 03/09/2021 15:17, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > If you change all instances of bullseye -> testing, then you are not > > mixing. Go ahead with that (...) > > Yep, that's all there is to say. testing word instead of bullseye > everywher

Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing?

2021-09-03 Thread piorunz
On 03/09/2021 15:17, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: If you change all instances of bullseye -> testing, then you are not mixing. Go ahead with that (...) Yep, that's all there is to say. testing word instead of bullseye everywhere in sources.list will do the trick. AFAIK, you may also disable "-se

Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing?

2021-09-03 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 10:40:32AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-09-03 at 10:17, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 04:11:49PM +0200, Richard Forst wrote: > > > >> I just installed Debian using netinstall image. I thought I install > >> testing version, but apparently

Re: Install Debian netinstall to HP Elitebook 840 G8 problem

2021-09-03 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 3 Sep 2021 09:46:24 +0200 (CEST) Richard Forst wrote: > I purchased a new laptop HP Elitebook 840 G8, and am trying to > install Debian to it. However I encounter a problem. > > I change the bios setting, but when booting from usb. What was shown > on the screen is simply a grub env com

Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing?

2021-09-03 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-09-03 at 10:17, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 04:11:49PM +0200, Richard Forst wrote: > >> I just installed Debian using netinstall image. I thought I install >> testing version, but apparently it's Debian 11. So now my >> source.list looks like below: >> >> deb

Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing?

2021-09-03 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 04:11:49PM +0200, Richard Forst wrote: > I just installed Debian using netinstall image. I thought I install testing > version, but apparently it's Debian 11. So now my source.list looks like > below: > >     deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main non-free contri

Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ?

2021-09-03 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 03:41:00PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > On 9/3/21 13:57, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > That sounds like potentially buggy behavior. Can you give a specific > > example? > > > > ntp (Debian) > sane (Debian) > gitlab-runner (not Debian) > zabbix-age

How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing?

2021-09-03 Thread Richard Forst
I just installed Debian using netinstall image. I thought I install testing version, but apparently it's Debian 11. So now my source.list looks like below:     deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main non-free contrib     deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main non-free contrib

Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ?

2021-09-03 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 9/3/21 13:57, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: That sounds like potentially buggy behavior. Can you give a specific example? ntp (Debian) sane (Debian) gitlab-runner (not Debian) zabbix-agent (not Debian) Apparently the postinst scripts of ntp and sane have been f

Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ?

2021-09-03 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 9/3/21 11:40, Erwan David wrote: I would do this the other way (but not eay tpo migrate) : add your users in another directory (/srv/home or something else) where you mpount your remote home directory, and keep system using /home. I agree, but unfortunately this is not an option.

Re: gcc-10: options order important?

2021-09-03 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2021-09-03 at 14:10 +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Fri, 2021-09-03 at 12:24 +0200, Piotr A. Dybczyński wrote: > > Hi, > > > > in contrary to previous versions, now in Debian 11 with gcc-10: > > > > gcc aa.c -lm -o aa works, but > > > > gcc -lm aa.c -o aa does not work, sayin

Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ?

2021-09-03 Thread Sven Hartge
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 08:03:23AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> Out of curiosity, I checked my system to see if there were any system >> users with home directories under /home. The only one I found is "ntp". >> >> Then I looked at the ntp.postinst script, and it h

Re: gcc-10: options order important?

2021-09-03 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2021-09-03 at 12:24 +0200, Piotr A. Dybczyński wrote: > Hi, > > in contrary to previous versions, now in Debian 11 with gcc-10: > > gcc aa.c -lm -o aa works, but > > gcc -lm aa.c -o aa does not work, saying: [...] > It seems that an option -lm cannot be placed in a

Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ?

2021-09-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 08:39:09AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > So, the existence of /home/ntp on the OP's system, or any system > installed from a Debian release prior to the last 4-ish years, could be > attributed to some process or series of actions that decides, "hey, this > ntp user's ho

Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ?

2021-09-03 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 08:33:25AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 08:23:07AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 08:03:23AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Out of curiosity, I checked my system to see if there were any system > > > users with home d

Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ?

2021-09-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 08:23:07AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 08:03:23AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Out of curiosity, I checked my system to see if there were any system > > users with home directories under /home. The only one I found is "ntp". > How old is y

Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ?

2021-09-03 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 08:03:23AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 07:57:44AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 11:14:45AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > how can I tell the debhelper scripts to not install home directories >

Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ?

2021-09-03 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 08:03:23AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 07:57:44AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 11:14:45AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > how can I tell the debhelper scripts to not install home directories >

Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ?

2021-09-03 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, September 03, 2021 05:40:18 AM Erwan David wrote: > Le 03/09/2021 à 11:14, Harald Dunkel a écrit : > > how can I tell the debhelper scripts to not install home directories > > for system services in /home (managed on a remote host in my > > environment), but to use /var/lib instead? > I

Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ?

2021-09-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 07:57:44AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 11:14:45AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > how can I tell the debhelper scripts to not install home directories > > for system services in /home (managed on a remote host in my environme

Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ?

2021-09-03 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 11:14:45AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Hi folks, > > how can I tell the debhelper scripts to not install home directories > for system services in /home (managed on a remote host in my environment), > but to use /var/lib instead? > That sounds like potentially buggy beha

Re: gcc-10: options order important?

2021-09-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 12:24:39PM +0200, Piotr A. Dybczyński wrote: > Hi, > > in contrary to previous versions, now in Debian 11 with gcc-10: > > gcc aa.c -lm -o aa works, but > > gcc -lm aa.c -o aa does not work, saying: > > /usr/bin/ld: /tmp/ccWyhudO.o: in function `main

gcc-10: options order important?

2021-09-03 Thread Piotr A. Dybczyński
Hi, in contrary to previous versions, now in Debian 11 with gcc-10: gcc aa.c -lm -o aa works, but gcc -lm aa.c -o aa does not work, saying: /usr/bin/ld: /tmp/ccWyhudO.o: in function `main': aa.c:(.text+0x1f): undefined reference to `sqrt' collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit

Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ?

2021-09-03 Thread Erwan David
Le 03/09/2021 à 11:14, Harald Dunkel a écrit : Hi folks, how can I tell the debhelper scripts to not install home directories for system services in /home (managed on a remote host in my environment), but to use /var/lib instead? I know I can block dpkg using apparmor, but this would break many

how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ?

2021-09-03 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, how can I tell the debhelper scripts to not install home directories for system services in /home (managed on a remote host in my environment), but to use /var/lib instead? I know I can block dpkg using apparmor, but this would break many postinst scripts, at least for 3rd-party packag

Re: Install Debian netinstall to HP Elitebook 840 G8 problem

2021-09-03 Thread Richard Forst
Ok I am kind of getting what goes wrong. First configure boot options to usb in bios setting as usual. Then do rebooting. After the screen displays HP logo, pressing esc button, which will again enter the bios seting or that kind of screen but it will ask (the screen will display) with several

Re: icewm anomaly after bullseye upgrade

2021-09-03 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:02:08 -0400 (EDT) Bob Bernstein wrote: > Thanks to those who chimed in! > > My focus today is on those lines in ~/.icewm/preferences that > specify fonts for the task bar. I have in mind such statements > as: > > NormalTaskBarFontNameXft="DejaVuSans-Bold,sans-serif:

Install Debian netinstall to HP Elitebook 840 G8 problem

2021-09-03 Thread Richard Forst
I purchased a new laptop HP Elitebook 840 G8, and am trying to install Debian to it. However I encounter a problem. I change the bios setting, but when booting from usb. What was shown on the screen is simply a grub env command line like grub> instead of a traditional debian install screen wh