Joe (12024-07-21):
> And the important phrase there is 'if you want to'. The point is that
> many people, especially those accustomed to running with admin
> privileges on their Windows computers, would continue to do that.
No, they will not. They will continue to follow the system
default,
Alain D D Williams (12024-07-21):
> I only needed root as it was for another user.
Exactly. On a computer with only one user account, once the pirate have
access to that account, they can do everything that matters. Including
spy the root password next time it is typed, but why waste the time
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 05:18:46PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> And it does not matter, because on a personal computer the root account
> is not what matters, what matters is the user account where you can
> install a key logger and get banking credentials or encrypt all the data
> and ask for
On 18/07/2024 00:01, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 17:58:57 +0100, Tim Woodall wrote:
No, I'm talking about sudo, not su. I'm not a sudo user so I can't test
but my understanding is that root inherits the umask of the invoking
user (or it used to)
Looks like this is still true.
On Sun 21 Jul 2024 at 10:45:59 (+), David wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 at 09:46, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > hede wrote:
>
> > > Technically it should be possible, as dmidecode can show the reason:
> > > Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
> > > System Information
> > > ...
> > >
Deux DM cohabitent Xfce et Gnome
Ce qui est proposé est :
- GNOME
- GNOME Classique
- GNOME classique sur Xorg
- GNOME sur Xorg
- Default Xsession
- Session Xfce
Toutes permettent de se connecter sauf "session Xfce", on s'en doutait
un peu !!
Est il possible de désinstaller Xfce et de le
Joe (12024-07-21):
> I accept what you say, the point I was making is that the more users,
> and they will be less IT-competent users, the more will login as root.
No, they will not.
And it does not matter, because on a personal computer the root account
is not what matters, what matters is the
On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 22:13:00 +0200
Hans wrote:
> > You missed one: Linux is virtually a virus-free environment, and a
> > large user base would mean many more people running as root, and it
> > would become worth the time of malware writers to target Linux.
> > Linux would become as virus-ridden
> - software updates that run as root (including Debian updates)
> can run anything else as root
So, maybe a more relevant discussion is: what will happen when a Debian
stable security update comes with a "big blunder" that crashes the most
machines in early boot?
Admittedly, the wider
Je suis assez d'accord avec toi sur cette analyse à ceci près est que le
premier utilisateur créé à l'install était sous Xfce4 mais les deux
autres créés par la suite se trouvaient sous Gnome, j'ignore totalement
pourquoi puisque la création des utilisateurs par adduser n'offre pas la
Richmond wrote:
> Jeffrey Walton writes:
>
> Yes the updates should be tested at every stage. Maybe people think that
> they cannot stop updates, but they can use Group Policy to stop Windows
> Update. Or maybe they are afraid if they don't allow virus updates then
> they will allow a virus?
Après c'est comme tout, il y a une raison à cela (corruption de fichier
dans ta session ? récupération home d'un autre système ? mise à jour
plantée ? autre ?). Ce qui est sûr c'est que ta session xfce4 a eu un
problème après mise à jour et reboot, ce n'est donc pas le pilote
graphique ni
C’est un routeur mobile qui n’a pas de client dyndns.
Pour l’instant, je me suis dépanné avec un client dyndns (DUC de noip.com qui
tourne sur une machine du LAN et informe noip.com dès que l’adresse IP change.
Test toutes les 5 mn.
Un routeur basique qui intègre un clientdyndns ferait aussi
Lors de la connexion d'un utilisateur il est possible de choisir quel
environnement utiliser si plusieurs DM sont installés
Envoyé d'une Debian12 xfce4 ou Cinnamon sous Asahi Linux/Macbook Air
Le 21/07/2024 à 16:24, Halbrante a écrit :
L'environnement graphique de l'utilisateur créé à
L'environnement graphique de l'utilisateur créé à l'installation était
Xfce4.
Lorsque j'ai créé un second puis un troisième utilisateur ( par
adduser), il était sous Gnome !!! ... Pourquoi ?
Y aurait-il une incompatibilité entre les deux ?
Le 21/07/2024 à 15:02, Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit :
On 7/21/24 07:43, Mike wrote:
Hi all,
I have a TV card in one of my boxen, which requires a kernel module to
be built. I've got that all nicely scripted and so I can kick it off
with relative ease.
The issue is detecting when it needs to be done. ie after a change in
the running kernel. At
Bonjour,
Mon premier post décrit le problème et ce qui s'est passé avant sa
découverte.
Je précise que le problème n'est pas qu'un nouvel utilisateur soit
refusé par le bureau (ie: son identification dans l'environnement
graphique) , au contraire
C'est que l'utilisateur créé lors de
El 20/7/24 a las 17:44, riveravaldez escribió:
El viernes, 19 de julio de 2024, Alejandro G. Sanchez
Martinezmailto:asanch...@e-compugraf.com>>
escribió:
> (...)
> En un desktop no es tan indispensable separarla pero si altamente
recomendable y no es un tema de velocidad, si tienes
Jeffrey Walton writes:
> This is alarming (to me) from the YC post:
>
> "we push software to your machines any time we want,
> whether or not it's urgent, without testing it" seems to be
> core to the model...
>
> Updates need to be tested inside an organization's lab, and then
>
Mike wrote:
> I have a TV card in one of my boxen, which requires a kernel module to
> be built. I've got that all nicely scripted and so I can kick it off
> with relative ease.
>
> The issue is detecting when it needs to be done. ie after a change in
> the running kernel. At the moment, it's
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 08:24:06 +0100, Adam Weremczuk wrote:
> Let me rephrase my question, which should be easier to answer.
>
> What exactly shall I substitute:
>
> mailer = "/usr/sbin/sendmail -t"
>
> with in /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/logwatch.conf
>
> to make logwatch use postfix
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 12:40 AM wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 03:27:17PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > And even you Hans, leave out the major, all encompassing, reason for the
> > lack of market share, which is that most business that have a
> computerized
> > system to run things
Bonjour,
Le dimanche 21 juillet 2024, Halbrante a écrit...
> Je pense que je me suis trompé de distribution : j'ai besoin d'un système
> stable et malheureusement la Debian 12 ne l'est pas puisqu'elle ne l'est
> restée qu'un mois
> La 2eme ou 3eme mise à jour lui a été fatale
Je n'ai pas entendu que Debian 12 est instable et pose problèmes.
Merci de m'indiquer comment s'est passé ce blème,
d'un nouvel utilisateur non accepté par le bureau :
upgrade, ré-installation... ?
On Sunday 21 July 2024 14:08:25 Halbrante wrote:
> J'ai été tenté par cette manip mais il y a une
Mike (12024-07-21):
> 1) lsmod | grep
>
> I conceed that doesn't actually indicate the kernel has changed, just
> that the kernel module is missing. However, so far, it being missing
> has consistent indicated a kernel change and rebuilding the driver on a
> false positive isn't really an issue
Bonjour,
J'ai été tenté par cette manip mais il y a une chose qui m'échappe,
c'est pourquoi l'interface graphique des utilisateurs qui sont créées
après l'installation n'est pas le même que celui qui est présenté pour
celui qui a créé lors de l'installation. Je n’avais pas l'habitude de
ces
On 21 Jul 2024 12:43 +0100, from deb...@norgie.net (Mike):
> I have a TV card in one of my boxen, which requires a kernel module to
> be built. I've got that all nicely scripted and so I can kick it off
> with relative ease.
> I thought that I'd just run it past the hive mind and see if anyone
Bonjour et merci de votre intervention.
Je ne sais pas comment qualifier la situation : ce n'est pas un problème
d'identification puisque l'utilisateur "jeff" a accès a son home et
s’identifie sans problème dans une session ssh distante à partir d'une
autre machine du réseau local
Il ne
Hello,
En supprimant totalement en mode console le user qui ne veut pas
de session graphique ainsi que son répertoire /home/user/
puis, reboot et réinstallation du user.
Même démarche mais login graphique en mode root :
Arriver sur le login graphique, wdm, xdm, lightdm...
y a t-il une liste de
On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 at 09:46, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> hede wrote:
> > Technically it should be possible, as dmidecode can show the reason:
> > Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
> > System Information
> > ...
> > Wake-up Type: LAN Remote
> > vs.
> > Wake-up Type: Power Switch
>
Adam Weremczuk writes:
> Let me rephrase my question, which should be easier to answer.
>
> What exactly shall I substitute:
>
> mailer = "/usr/sbin/sendmail -t"
>
> with in /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/logwatch.conf
>
> to make logwatch use postfix (already working without DNS) instead of
>
Bonjour,
Le vendredi 19 juillet 2024, Halbrante a écrit...
> J'ai installé la Debian 12 sur un mini PC HP Prodesk et tout se passait bien
> jusqu'à un reboot suite auquel, il m'était impossible d'ouvrir une session
> graphique de l’utilisateur créé à l'installation du système : après
tout est bon au niveau des droits de ce dossier...
Si tu te connectes en ligne de commande (tty : ctrl + alt + f2) avec ton
compte jeff, que te donne un : startxfce4 ?
La question de didier gaumet sur la liste hier, au sujet de ce que
contient le xsession-errors pourrait aussi donner une
Hi,
hede wrote:
> Technically it should be possible, as dmidecode can show the reason:
> Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
> System Information
> ...
> Wake-up Type: LAN Remote
> vs.
> Wake-up Type: Power Switch
The statement in man dmidecode "DMI (some say SMBIOS)" caused me
Contrary to popular belief, the QWERTY layout was not designed to slow the
typist down, but rather to speed up typing.
Indeed, there is evidence that, aside from the issue of jamming, placing
often-used keys farther apart increases typing speed, because it encourages
alternation between the
Bonjour,
Merci pour la suggestion, voici ce que ça donne.
J'ignore quels droits seraient les bons !
jeff@desktop-DEBIAN:~$ ls -al ~/.cache/sessions
total 52
drwx-- 3 jeff jeff 4096 17 juil. 00:00 .
drwx-- 20 jeff jeff 4096 17 juil. 22:11 ..
drwx-- 2 jeff jeff 4096 8 juil. 21:39
hlyg (12024-07-21):
> is it possible to remap keyboard to Dvorak in X Window?
Yes, of course.
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Debian+dvorak
> does anyone use it
> to speed up typing?
No, only to feel smug.
# Later experiments have shown
On 7/21/24 02:33, Russell L. Harris wrote:
The same reasons the standard typewriter keyboard is QWERTY rather
than Dvorak:
= The precedent set by the first to market is powerful.
= The influence of advertising upon a populace lacking in discernment
and addicted to novelty is deadly.
Add to
Adam,
I dislike people to reply to my questions but do not answer the question,
instead suggest I do something totally different.
Please forgive me, as that is what I am about to do.
I have had, what seems to me to be similar issue, my solution was to set up an
authoritative BIND9 server on
Adam Weremczuk writes:
> Let me rephrase my question, which should be easier to answer.
>
> What exactly shall I substitute:
>
> mailer = "/usr/sbin/sendmail -t"
>
Eee. Nothing?
--8<---cut here---start->8---
dpkg -L postfix|grep send
/usr/sbin/sendmail
Peut être un problème de droit (comme énoncé sur la liste ) sur ce dossier : ls
-al ~/.cache/sessions ?
Le 20 juillet 2024 09:15:43 GMT+02:00, Halbrante a écrit :
>C'est xfce4
>
>Le 20/07/2024 à 07:25, Testeur a écrit :
>> Sur quel afficheur graphique es tu ?
>> Il m'est arrivé d'avoir un souci
Let me rephrase my question, which should be easier to answer.
What exactly shall I substitute:
mailer = "/usr/sbin/sendmail -t"
with in /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/logwatch.conf
to make logwatch use postfix (already working without DNS) instead of
sendmail?
On 21/07/2024 08:08, Jeff
Sendmail is too old to be supported.
You may use postfix and exim instead. They are main stream MTA software
today.
On 2024-07-21 14:58, Adam Weremczuk wrote:
This is in a way a continuation of my recently "purely local DNS"
thread.
To recap: my objective is to send emails to a single
Greetings Kamil,
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2024 at 7:55 AM
> From: "Kamil Jońca"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: pam and pam-cap don't play along
>
> daggs writes:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I have bookworm installat
Greetings George,
>Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2024 at 4:00 AM
>From: "George at Clug"
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: pam and pam-cap don't play along
>On Sunday, 21-07-2024 at 07:57 daggs wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I have bookworm
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 2:15 AM Andy Smith wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 10:28:28AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> > Crowdstrike did not strike at Linux or BSD UNIX systems - only MS Windows
> > systems.
>
> Except that time just a few months ago when it *did* happen to
> Crowdstrike+Linux?
>
>
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 08:17:54AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
> The CrowdStrike outage emulated the very thing it is alleged to protect
> against - a zero day exploit.
It was also a demonstration of a huge vulnerability. If $EvilActor were to get
an agent employed at CrowdStrike/whoever then
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 08:46:24AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
> A plug for SELinux. It's been around for a long time. It was invented by the
> NSA for use by Government agencies but they kindly open sourced it and it's
> available on many Distros including Debian.
>
> SELinux is a real pain to
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 03:27:17PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
[...]
> And even you Hans, leave out the major, all encompassing, reason for the
> lack of market share, which is that most business that have a computerized
> system to run things also value what their MBA says. And since there is
daggs writes:
> Greetings,
>
> I have bookworm installation where I want to allow a group of users to run a
> specific binary that needs to execute a ioctl which is not possible for
> normal users.
> in comes pam+libcap.
> so I've installed libcap, updated /etc/security/capability.conf with
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 10:28:28AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> Crowdstrike did not strike at Linux or BSD UNIX systems - only MS Windows
> systems.
Except that time just a few months ago when it *did* happen to
Crowdstrike+Linux?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41005936
Nothing in
On 21/7/24 10:07, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
All this points to an incompetent board. If someone's head is going to
be taken (figuratively), then it should start with the CEO and other
executives.
Yes.
But, the people who should be sacked, with loss of benefits, are the
board members and the
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 9:46 PM The Wanderer wrote:
>
> On 2024-07-20 at 09:19, jeremy ardley wrote:
>
> > On 20/7/24 18:35, George at Clug wrote:
> > [...]
> > The problem was not CrowdStrike as such. It happens in the best of
> > operations.
> >
> > The problem is the Windows Systems
On Sunday, 21-07-2024 at 07:57 daggs wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I have bookworm installation where I want to allow a group of users
to run a specific binary that needs to execute a ioctl which is not
possible for normal users.
> in comes pam+libcap.
> so I've installed libcap, updated
On 21/7/24 07:28, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
Again lacking data center experience? Every server in your data center
that is outward-facing will be contacted by intruders on its open ports.
That includes your Debian servers. If your apache server or application
server running on Debian is
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, 8:57 AM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 01:15:22 -0700, Van Snyder wrote:
> > > Van Snyder wrote:
> > > > And there's still the mystery why a statically-linked executable
> > > > wants to
> > > > load a shared object library.
>
>
On 21/7/24 06:38, The Wanderer wrote:
The first would be poor institutional practice; the others would be
potentially-questionable software design, although it's hard to know
without seeing the internal architecture of the software in question and
understanding*why* it's designed that way.
On 7/20/24 16:45, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
Andy Smith wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 11:54:06AM +0800, hlyg wrote:
crowdstrike makes news headlines, many Windows become blue screens
it is evident that many people around still use Windows
i wonder if linux is more reliable than
On Sunday, 21-07-2024 at 08:38 The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2024-07-20 at 09:19, jeremy ardley wrote:
>
> > On 20/7/24 18:35, George at Clug wrote:
> >
> >> On Saturday, 20-07-2024 at 13:54 hlyg wrote:
> >>
> >>> crowdstrike makes news headlines, many Windows become blue
> >>> screens
> >>
> >>
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, 2:09 PM Joe wrote:
>
> You missed one: Linux is virtually a virus-free environment, and a
> large user base would mean many more people running as root, and it
> would become worth the time of malware writers to target Linux. Linux
> would become as virus-ridden as Windows.
On 2024-07-20 at 09:19, jeremy ardley wrote:
> On 20/7/24 18:35, George at Clug wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, 20-07-2024 at 13:54 hlyg wrote:
>>
>>> crowdstrike makes news headlines, many Windows become blue
>>> screens
>>
>> The CrowdStrike issue was not a Windows issue, it was a CrowdStrike
>>
Thank Clug and all that reply !
On 7/20/24 18:36, George at Clug wrote:
Do you think Windows is not reliable? Why is that?
Windows used to crash often, i rarely use it now, they say it's more
stable these day
Do you use Linux yourself?
surely i use as this is debian user list
Have you
Andy Smith (12024-07-20):
> And yes here in the UK where we allowed the Post Office to pay
> billions to Fujitsu to develop the Horizon IT system that
> incorrectly accused hundreds of postmasters of fraud, resulting in
> criminal prosecutions and at least one case of suicide.
That was not a bug,
Hi,
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 09:44:52PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> It seems clear to me that what's needed is a change in the law. At the
> moment here in the UK we have national news services explaining that
> airline passengers won't be able to get compensation because the
>
Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 11:54:06AM +0800, hlyg wrote:
> > crowdstrike makes news headlines, many Windows become blue screens
> >
> > it is evident that many people around still use Windows
> >
> > i wonder if linux is more reliable than Windows
>
> For this
El viernes, 19 de julio de 2024, Alejandro G. Sanchez Martinez<
asanch...@e-compugraf.com> escribió:
> (...)
> En un desktop no es tan indispensable separarla pero si altamente
recomendable y no es un tema de velocidad, si tienes /home y / en una sola
partición y metes tantos archivos como
I would think linux is better as server OS due to reasons of security,
performance and
Operability etc.
Once aol mail was running on windows. But now aol is merged into yahoo
mail which was originally run on freebsd but now linux mostly.
And the initial hotmail was running on freebsd too
Hi,
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 11:54:06AM +0800, hlyg wrote:
> crowdstrike makes news headlines, many Windows become blue screens
>
> it is evident that many people around still use Windows
>
> i wonder if linux is more reliable than Windows
For this specific issue, if Linux were used at the same
> You missed one: Linux is virtually a virus-free environment, and a
> large user base would mean many more people running as root, and it
> would become worth the time of malware writers to target Linux. Linux
> would become as virus-ridden as Windows.
>
> It would also become a target for data
On 7/20/24 09:59, Hans wrote:
Hello,
well, the thing is: Do we really want to go to more market share?
Let's imagine, Debian becomes market relevant, what will happen? Sure, more
developers get paid, what is very nice. But not all developers will.
Many good developers will not be paid and
On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 15:59:14 +0200
Hans wrote:
> Hello,
>
> well, the thing is: Do we really want to go to more market share?
>
> Let's imagine, Debian becomes market relevant, what will happen?
> Sure, more developers get paid, what is very nice. But not all
> developers will.
>
> Many good
The same reasons the standard typewriter keyboard is QWERTY rather
than Dvorak:
= The precedent set by the first to market is powerful.
= The influence of advertising upon a populace lacking in discernment
and addicted to novelty is deadly.
Add to that extortion and bribes and a compromised
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, 12:16 AM wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 02:45:37PM +1000, David wrote:
> > On Sat, 2024-07-20 at 11:54 +0800, hlyg wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > why free OS hasn't gained more share even after 30 years of
> > > development?
> >
> > Because people don't have it hammered into
Hi,
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Then it's almost certainly using dlopen() to load this shared library.
dlopen(3) explains the missing gtk modules which (i assume) are not
reported by ldd. But it does not explain why "file" and ldd now report
something different than they reported a while ago.
Have
Which is not quite correct. As a hamradio (I am one), you are allowed to
develop your very owh rf-devices. Transceivers, measure equipment, whatever
you like.
Many things, we are using today in consumer devices are first developed by
radio amateurs (example shorthand "packet radio", which is
On 7/20/24 09:58, Larry Martell wrote:
I’ve never owned a machine running windows in my life.
I've owned one. I needed a lappy I could use with a gps for roadmap, had
the then new XP on it, cleared the disk a week later and put mandrake on
it because XP had no drivers that could run the
gene heskett (12024-07-20):
> > If they were, you'd have support for software-defined radio signal
> > processing in FFmpeg, for example.
> Which the current rules for such does not allow, by FCC edicts, only sealed
> FCC approved blobs are allowed to play in the rf field.
> So don't blame the
On Saturday, 20-07-2024 at 23:59 Hans wrote:
> Hello,
>
> well, the thing is: Do we really want to go to more market share?
>
> Let's imagine, Debian becomes market relevant, what will happen? Sure, more
> developers get paid, what is very nice. But not all developers will.
>
> Many good
On 7/20/24 04:28, Nicolas George wrote:
hlyg (12024-07-20):
Thank David! market share is important though it isn't "reliable
recommendation for quality": more users attract more programmers, who
develop more apps,
The programmers who are attracted by market share are not necessarily
the ones
Hello,
well, the thing is: Do we really want to go to more market share?
Let's imagine, Debian becomes market relevant, what will happen? Sure, more
developers get paid, what is very nice. But not all developers will.
Many good developers will not be paid and when the market will rule things,
I’ve never owned a machine running windows in my life.
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 01:15:22 -0700, Van Snyder wrote:
> > Van Snyder wrote:
> > > And there's still the mystery why a statically-linked executable
> > > wants to
> > > load a shared object library.
https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/manpages-dev/dlopen.3.en.html
> Am I losing my mind?
>
>
On 20/7/24 18:35, George at Clug wrote:
On Saturday, 20-07-2024 at 13:54 hlyg wrote:
> crowdstrike makes news headlines, many Windows become blue screens
The CrowdStrike issue was not a Windows issue, it was a CrowdStrike issue.
The problem did not affect our Windows computers as we have
My reason to keep windows is that I can’t play Starcraft under Linux.
--
Jeff Pang
jeffp...@aol.com
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 5:50 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote:
>
> Van Snyder wrote:
> > And there's still the mystery why a statically-linked executable wants to
> > load a shared object library.
>
> I doubt that it is possible to make a purely statical binary with no
> references to .any so libraries.
>
On 2024-07-20, Michael Kjörling wrote:
> On 20 Jul 2024 16:57 +0800, from hlyg2...@outlook.com (hlyg):
>> statistics about market share might come from web servers and game servers,
>> they know how many users use linux and Windows.
>
> No. They at most can know what platform user agents report.
On 2024-07-20, Michael Grant wrote:
> OpenOffice is quite featureful, it is not 100% bug for bug compatible with
> real MS Office products.
I failed to read an old version word file on a newer word. And succeed
with libreoffice. So yes it's not 100% bug compatible :)
> choices. There is no
On 20 Jul 2024 16:57 +0800, from hlyg2...@outlook.com (hlyg):
> statistics about market share might come from web servers and game servers,
> they know how many users use linux and Windows.
No. They at most can know what platform user agents report.
Which isn't necessarily the same thing at all.
On 20 Jul 2024 17:25 +0800, from jeremy.ard...@gmail.com (jeremy ardley):
>> A lot of paid-for programmer time isn't necessarily for what the
>> individual programmer_wants_ to do. If one's employer dictates that
>> their products should support Mac OS and Windows, for example, then
>> there's
Well said, Michael.
On Saturday, 20-07-2024 at 20:19 Michael Grant wrote:
> My opinions only...
>
> 1) MS Office (Word/Excel/PPT/etc) has never been available for
> Unix/Gnu-Linux. Word and Excel have long been 2 apps users require.
> Not OpenOffice. While OpenOffice is quite featureful, it
On Saturday, 20-07-2024 at 13:54 hlyg wrote:
> crowdstrike makes news headlines, many Windows become blue screens
The CrowdStrike issue was not a Windows issue, it was a CrowdStrike
issue.
The problem did not affect our Windows computers as we have not
installed CrowdStrike software.
I think
On 7/20/24 15:02, Michel Verdier wrote:
Linux is not on the market. I buy M$ but download debian. How can you say
how many people is using debian? Once upon a time there was a
linuxcounter...
Thank tomas, Verdier and George!
statistics about market share might come from web servers and game
[Enviado en directo tambien porque trata de Gmail - also sent direct
because of Gmail]
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 02:29:15AM +0200, Aleix Piulachs wrote:
> installing w4sp-lab and wireshark there are many errors and I can't install
> it..
Querido Aleix,
Que estas haciendo aqui? Has escrito muchas
On 20/7/24 16:56, Michael Kjörling wrote:
On 20 Jul 2024 10:28 +0200, fromgeo...@nsup.org (Nicolas George):
Thank David! market share is important though it isn't "reliable
recommendation for quality": more users attract more programmers, who
develop more apps,
The programmers who are
Le 19/07/2024 à 22:19, Halbrante a écrit :
Le fichier xcession_errors est juste une copie de sauvegarde du fichier
du fichier .xcession_errors au moment où je tente d'ouvrir une session.
D'accord mais que contient ce fichier?
et précédemment tu as fait un ls -l de ton répertoire, essaie
On 20 Jul 2024 10:28 +0200, from geo...@nsup.org (Nicolas George):
>> Thank David! market share is important though it isn't "reliable
>> recommendation for quality": more users attract more programmers, who
>> develop more apps,
>
> The programmers who are attracted by market share are not
Hi,
Van Snyder wrote:
> Am I losing my mind?
Since this could mean a fatal end to the endeavor to run your program
we should postpone this hypothesis until nearly everything else is
outruled.
> At first I had done "file LinuxSusser". It reported "Statically linked."
> Just to be sure, I did
hlyg (12024-07-20):
> Thank David! market share is important though it isn't "reliable
> recommendation for quality": more users attract more programmers, who
> develop more apps,
The programmers who are attracted by market share are not necessarily
the ones who are interested in developing
On Sat, 2024-07-20 at 09:31 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Van Snyder wrote:
> > And there's still the mystery why a statically-linked executable
> > wants to
> > load a shared object library.
>
> I doubt that it is possible to make a purely statical binary with no
> references to .any
Thank David! market share is important though it isn't "reliable
recommendation for quality": more users attract more programmers, who
develop more apps, which attract more users. e.g. many vpn providers
support Windows and android, not linux.
linux can get distributed by word-of-mouth if it
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