I came to this thread following a reference to it in the recent
price-drop thread.
I have to agree with Michael Wagner ... looking very similar to an
Audiotron. I have one as well.
They are not made any more - which is what pushed me to buy an SB2 when
I wanted to get music in more rooms.
For
Paul Webster Wrote:
I came to this thread following a reference to it in the recent
price-drop thread.
I have to agree with Michael Wagner ... looking very similar to an
Audiotron. I have one as well.
They are not made any more - which is what pushed me to buy an SB2 when
I wanted to get
JJZolx Wrote:
And it was only $200? They may not have been making much, but so much
for those who think wrapping an SB2 in a real case with controls needs
to add $500 to the price tag.
Maybe there's a reason they are no longer available :)
If you read the thread carefuly, you'll see that
I agree, it does look similar to the audiotron, but I certainly hadn't
thought of that when I was designing it, I was just working off
suggestions and adding them where I could.
I would definitely be willing to pay extra for one like this and $500
seems perfectly reasonable (providing that
I had an audiotron for a little while before I discovered slim. That
thing looked fine for a studio, but totally out of place in a hifi
stack. It was plastic, the buttons felt cheap, and the display was
tiny. It was also too thin (about 1U, which is much thinner than most
hifi). While the SB2
JJZolx Wrote:
And it was only $200?
As I recall it started out higher and dropped to $200 US after a while.
I have one I bought new and one I bought used just around the time we
found out they had been discontinued.
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It was plastic
Really? Both of mine are metal. I carry (sorry, carried) them around in
19 racks.
the buttons felt cheap
They were rubber chicklet buttons. Not the nicest, true. But they
worked fine. Not that I used them much. Power on was the most popular
one, after that I
Really? Both of mine are metal. I carry (sorry, carried) them around in
19 racks.
Sorry, should have been more specific. The fascia was plastic (matt
finish IIRC), the case was indeed metal.
They were rubber chicklet buttons. Not the nicest, true. But they worked
fine
Indeed, they worked
radish Wrote:
The fascia was plastic
Mine looks metal, feels like metal, but I don't want to scratch it to
check for sure. Next time I take it apart I'll check the back surface,
where I can't damage the visible portions.
As an (offtopic) aside, I can't quite get how you'd DJ with either SBs
I have been lurking following this thread - quite nice to watch.
The design has come along way - the one thing that bugs me is the plus and
the buttons. They look gratuitously round. Kind of like the ford
taurus eggmobile look. There could be other sexier shapes done. Perhaps the
might be
On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 19:00 +0200, Michael Herger wrote:
Nice job. Let's get someone to build a bunch of them!
FrontPanelDesigner should now be called upon. Someone
want to see about a bulk discount?
How do you connect all those fancy buttons to the SB?
The Geekport?
Phil.
Philip Downer Wrote:
On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 19:00 +0200, Michael Herger wrote:
Nice job. Let's get someone to build a bunch of them!
FrontPanelDesigner should now be called upon. Someone
want to see about a bulk discount?
How do you connect all those fancy buttons to the SB?
I've been working on a redesign of my Squeezebox to have a new headphone
section and DAC and put it in a more...elegant frame.
Any thoughts?
http://hilltop.bradley.edu/~bjackson/Squeezebox.jpg
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I hope this covers the latest points from everyone:
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JJZolx Wrote:
My thing with the simplified button scheme is that if you're going to
put buttons on it at all, then why not make them useful? You just
can't do much with three buttons and a scroll wheel. For example, how
do you play a song or album rather than just adding it to the
audiofi Wrote:
I hope this covers the latest points from everyone:
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxtextured3.gif
That looks very nice. Functional, practical, while still having a
high-end look. Couple of comments:
I am concerned that the label backlighting on the buttons
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I'd like this do be controlled by software. I have really
no need for a volume knob on this unit, because it
will be connected via optical and the volume will be fixed.
If this form factor is built, I'd probably pick one up
With the most recent changes:
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The screen is meant to be slightly recessed on this one.
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With the most recent changes:
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxtextured4.gif
The screen is meant to be slightly recessed on this one.
That is just about perfect. Although with everything else being
round, how about making the square
Round buttons as requested, I would DEFINITELY buy one of these!!!
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Round buttons as requested, I would DEFINITELY buy one of these!!!
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Yep, that is sweet. Nice job.
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FrontPanelDesigner should now be called upon. Someone
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Right now I don't think there is an easy way to connect the buttons.
You could always butcher a remote and connect the buttons to that ;-)
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Nice job. Let's get someone to build a bunch of them!
FrontPanelDesigner should now be called upon. Someone
want to see about a bulk discount?
How do you connect all those fancy buttons to the SB?
The same way as how we'll actually see this - in
audiofi Wrote:
Round buttons as requested, I would DEFINITELY buy one of these!!!
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxtextured5.gif
Almost perfect... Though I would prefer some changes to the
Play/Pause/FF/Rew buttons:
* buttons should be ordered logically: Play, Pause, Rew, FF
Good point on the buttons, I had got the order wrong, with changes:
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxtextured6.gif
I can add skip buttons or re-label the current FF/Rew ones if wanted.
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Good point on the buttons, I had got the order wrong, with changes:
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxtextured6.gif
I can add skip buttons or re-label the current FF/Rew ones if wanted.
I don't think there's any way you're going to backlight the icons on
the small
Colour and other changes with buttons to the left of the wheel:
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxtextured7.gif
And to the right of the wheel:
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If we're really trying to come up with the Ideal Squeezebox, shouldn't
it have a bigger display?
The only advantage the Roku device has over our beloved Squeezebox, is
the larger display of the Roku M2000.
It doesn't have to be quite as big as the M2000, but something I can
read from across the
audiofi Wrote:
Colour and other changes with buttons to the left of the wheel:
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxtextured7.gif
And to the right of the wheel:
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxtextured8.gif
Thanks Andrew. I like this one better:
This is the version you prefer, but with the extra size button and the
slightly altered order of the buttons and different play etc. labels.
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxtextured9.gif
I think WAF should play a more important part, there will be more
willingness to pay a premium
audiofi Wrote:
This is the version you prefer, but with the extra size button and the
slightly altered order of the buttons and different play etc. labels.
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxtextured9.gif
Well, no. I prefer the labels under the display to be uniform (not
some
More like this:
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxtextured10.gif
I agree that the backlighting would be near impossible on the buttons
and painted on wouldn't really look right with the other lights
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It's starting to look a lot like my first love, an Audiotron.
:-)
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It's starting to look a lot like my first love, an Audiotron.
:-)
Or a NAD designed piece of equipment...
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Yep, you're right, they were too small, I resized them to the same width
as my Rotel amp:
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxfullwidth.gif
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxfullwidthblack.gif
Screen remains the same size as the current squeezebox.
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Yep, you're right, they were too small, I resized them to the same width
as my Rotel amp:
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxfullwidth.gif
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxfullwidthblack.gif
Screen remains the same size as the current squeezebox.
The
audiofi Wrote:
Yep, you're right, they were too small, I resized them to the same width
as my Rotel amp:
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxfullwidth.gif
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxfullwidthblack.gif
Screen remains the same size as the current squeezebox.
What about putting the buttons on the top? This would only work if
the sb is the top piece of equipment but it would give it a cleaner
front.
Steven Moore
On 15 Sep 2005, at 12:47PM, Dave D wrote:
audiofi Wrote:
Yep, you're right, they were too small, I resized them to the same
width
I'm just working on Dave's suggestions, then I'll try dropping the
controls onto the top.
Andrew
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One for Robin:
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxwheel.gif
and for Dave:
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxwidenew.gif
The green button part is meant to be the backlight, the knob didn't
come out very well I'm afraid, I'm still a photoshop beginner.
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For a clean look, I'd rather see a fold down door of sorts.
Now what would be really cool (getting out of hand here...)
is the fold down door could house a bluetooth mini keyboard
for total control of the squeezebox.
Forgoing that idea, what about a fold down door with the look and
feel of the
audiofi Wrote:
and for Dave:
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxwidenew.gif
Hey, that's not too bad, Andrew, and quick, too. Gee, I only posted it
this morning! There can be tweaks, of course, since this is our own
imaginary design and we do what we want to:
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This might help visialise the dimensions better. It's my modded SB2 in
a 2U high case (for a hefty linear supply and other mods that I plan to
do). As you can see, there's a lot of metal.
I'd like two knobs on mine, with press to select,
audiofi Wrote:
I think this has covered what you wanted:
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxnew.gif
This is to scale, should be the same width as my Rotel amp and the
screen is the same size as the current one, so the height should also
be ok for size.
Yes, that's much closer to
No problem at all, I'm enjoying drawing them and as you say, it would be
good to get some ideas together.
Here are those couple of changes (only took 2 mins to do):
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxnew2.gif
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No problem at all, I'm enjoying drawing them and as you say, it
would be good to get some ideas together.
Here are those couple of changes (only took 2 mins to do):
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxnew2.gif
Open to any other suggestions
With Paul's changes
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxnew3.gif
I'll look into the textures tonight and tomorrow and see if I can work
out how to make it more of a matt metalic look rather than the current
perspex.
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With Paul's changes
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxnew3.gif
I'll look into the textures tonight and tomorrow and see if I can
work out how to make it more of a matt metalic look rather than
the current perspex.
So, now the question
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 14:45 -0400, PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote:
what is something like this worth?
US $349? $399?
One technical note, if the volume is set to be fixed, there
should be a way to make the volume functionality of the
knob be replaced (maybe through some sort of plug-in)
with
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andtexture:
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxtextured.gif
Oh, beautiful!
I have a couple more suggestions and will reply to some of Paul's
suggstions a bit later. Just got home from work and have to run out
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andtexture:
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxtextured.gif
:-) Now my 2 cents...
- Power button and headphone jack are too close to edges of the
bezel.
- Move the power button down to about middle height on bezel.
- Headphone jack should have a text and/or
With all of those suggestions (keep them coming!)
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxtextured2.gif
Any more changes I'll do tomorrow morning (its 1am over here)
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pfarrell Wrote:
Audiophiles would want something like this:
http://www.transcendentsound.com/step%20attenuator.htm
but the part costs $120 so things are starting to
get pricey.
From what I can tell that is an actual volume control, i.e. it talks
about attenuation. In this case the actual
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pfarrell Wrote:
Audiophiles would want something like this:
http://www.transcendentsound.com/step%20attenuator.htm
but the part costs $120 so things are starting to
get pricey.
From what I can tell that is an actual volume control,
It still *looks* like it was drawn...
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Very good ideas, Jim, and great job again in the illustration, Andrew.
I wanted to respond to Paul first, then to Jim.
Paul Wrote:
The power button and headphone jack look odd. I don't know why, I just
think they do. Maybe put one or the other on the top left?
I agree they looked wrong. I
Ugh, now it's ugly...
This one:
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxtextured.gif
Was almost perfect IMHO.
The knob was multifunction. No need to have two separate knobs.
No need to label the 1/4 jack. I'm pretty sure most users
would understand you can't plug an amp or guitar into
radish Wrote:
From what I can tell that is an actual volume control, i.e. it talks
about attenuation. In this case the actual attenuation is happening
digitally, in the SB, so the wheel itself just needs to be an encoder.
I think it does not even need to be an encoder. We just need to sense
PAUL WILLIAMSON Wrote:
This one:
http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxtextured.gif
Was almost perfect IMHO.
I agree, but I like _some_ aspects of what Jim and Andrew came up with,
specifically:
-- the display moved a bit more to the right and centered vertically.
It is much
I agree they looked wrong. I think Jim Andrew fixed this, but the
power button aspect is still a bit long. I would make it a bit more
square, then flip it vertically.
Rethinking the power button... Should it just be a stop button
(usually denoted with a solid square icon) since I'm assuming
Jim, the volume knob acts as a volume knob by default. If you press
Select, you'll go into Menu Mode. The the volume knob acts like an
up/down menu control. If you press-hold Select you'll go back to
Volume Mode. If you do nothing, it will go back to Volume mode
automatically after a timeout.
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Jim, the volume knob acts as a volume knob by default. If
you press Select, you'll go into Menu Mode. The the
volume knob acts like an up/down menu control. If you
press-hold Select you'll go back to Volume Mode. If
you do nothing, it will go
PAUL WILLIAMSON Wrote:
I'd like this do be controlled by software. I have really
no need for a volume knob on this unit, because it
will be connected via optical and the volume will be fixed.
If this form factor is built, I'd probably pick one up for
the bedroom, but still wouldn't use
I was thinking along the lines of the Musical Fidelity range like this:
http://www.pult.ru/upload/images/29138.jpg
Also, it would capture the users of micro systems like the Denon, Onkyo
etc. which would hopefully make it a little more mainstream.
From the posts I have read, it seems people
Well since we are saying what our dream box is.
I like Black. I like my equipment to hide into the background, not be
the center stage. Its the music that should be noticed not the gear ;)
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Black:
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I'd go for pale blue and orange, with blinking acrylic knobs. Very 23rd century
:)
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I'd go for pale blue and orange, with blinking acrylic knobs. Very 23rd
century
:)
Thank goodness your title say NOT a Slim Devices Employee ;)
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I'd go for pale blue and orange, with blinking acrylic knobs. Very 23rd
century
:)
Thank goodness your title say NOT a Slim Devices Employee ;)
yes, its much more accurate than the former moderator :)
on the serious side, I'd have to say
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I'd go for pale blue and orange, with blinking acrylic knobs.
Very 23rd century :)
More like Edmonton Oiler-ish or NY Islander-ish...
A little under a month to hockey season...game on!
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For those who wanted full width hifi size:
Silver: http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxfullwidth.gif
Black: http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxfullwidthblack.gif
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For those who wanted full width hifi size:
Silver: http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxfullwidth.gif
Black: http://audiofi.dudehost.com/other/squeezeboxfullwidthblack.gif
Not bad, but it doesn't appear that the scale is quite right...is that
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