Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning a ColdFusion Framework

2009-07-19 Thread Teddy R. Payne
Tim, The built-in ORM in CF9 is Java's Hibernate under the covers. What I expect to see in MVC frameworks that use a current ORM like Transfer or Reactor will probably provide an ability to use the native ORM engine when CF9 becomes gold. There may be a benefit in performance with using a native

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning a ColdFusion Framework

2009-07-19 Thread Teddy R. Payne
Clarke, You have established some criteria in your decision already. You are looking for an MVC framework in ColdFusion. - Mach-II A framework that focuses on trying to ease software development and maintenance - Model-Glue

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning a ColdFusion Framework

2009-07-19 Thread Clarke Bishop
Thanks guys! I know that for some people choosing a framework becomes a religious question. I started to say something about this in my original message. Instead, I listed some requirements: . An MVC framework (Therefore, no Fusebox). The others are more object oriented. . Hel

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning a ColdFusion Framework

2009-07-19 Thread Douglas Knudsen
What did I hear fusebox compared to recently on twitterh. Coldbox sounds promising, it showed up whilst I was away in Flex land. Seems to me, without fanning flames, mach-ii, coldbox, or model glue will be handy dandy to learn. The principles learned in either of these will apply in the

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning a ColdFusion Framework

2009-07-19 Thread Charlie Arehart
Uh, here it comes, the annual framework debate. :-) I’m only joking, Clarke. It’s a reasonable question. The good news is that you will indeed get opinions. You’ll just have to sift through them. I think the problem with the discussion is that there’s no one good answer. As with so many thin

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning a ColdFusion Framework

2009-07-19 Thread Timothy Grice
Charlie, I saw your post I it started me thinking. With the new feature within CF9 does this make the ORM framework more or less attractive as an option. CF9 seems to handle ORM requirements very well. Would one be better off taking advantage of a different framework and handle ORM issues with t