Re: breaking bad habits like Doodle and Facebook with plugins?

2018-02-05 Thread Mat Witts
Hi Florian, > [...] people have the right to give up their freedoms, but I don't know why they would from a theoretical perspective. Well, with the obvious possibility of again sounding a bit like a lecturer with a hangover who has stumbled into the wrong theatre - I have to say there are many

Re: breaking bad habits like Doodle and Facebook with plugins?

2018-02-01 Thread Florian Snow
Hi Mat, Mat Witts writes: >> I also cannot comprehend it > It' easy - one example is some groups object to liberal notions of > education on the pretext of religious belief. I used comprehend here differently. I would argue people have the right to give up their freedoms, but I

Re: breaking bad habits like Doodle and Facebook with, plugins?

2018-01-31 Thread Florian Snow
Hi Carmen, Carmen Bianca Bakker writes: > If you start treating rights and freedoms as something that can be > negotiated individually, the "powerful" will misuse this to transfer > the rights of the "weak" over to them. I agree, but I see this as an issue with specific

Re: breaking bad habits like Doodle and Facebook with plugins?

2018-01-24 Thread Max Mehl
Hi Michael, # M [2018-01-17 20:50 +0100]: Instead of "punishing" people for using these services it would probably be better to encourage the usage of alternatives. My opinion exactly. I'd be really interested if you knew any seriously recommendable alternatives to Doodle. There is Dudle

Re: breaking bad habits like Doodle and Facebook with plugins?

2018-01-24 Thread M
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 6:31 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > On 17/01/18 18:20, André Ockers wrote: > > Dear Daniel and list, > > > > Op woensdag 17 januari 2018 11:56:21 schreef Daniel Pocock: > >> Nasty things like Doodle, Meetup and Facebook keep popping up throughout > >>

Re: breaking bad habits like Doodle and Facebook with plugins?

2018-01-18 Thread Paul Boddie
On Wednesday 17. January 2018 11.56.21 Daniel Pocock wrote: > > One thing that comes to mind: are there browser plugins and Thunderbird > email plugins that can help people avoid visiting or linking to things > like Facebook, Meetup, Twitter and Doodle? I'm not talking about giving > electric

Re: breaking bad habits like Doodle and Facebook with, plugins?

2018-01-18 Thread Mat Witts
On 18/01/18 13:06, Stephane Ascoet wrote: > These are two of the main differences between libre software > advocacies(Linus Torvalds and Eric Raymond for the first, RMS for the > second) and I think it would be hardly solved now and here.. I think the Torvalds / RMS split is an example of this

Re: breaking bad habits like Doodle and Facebook with, plugins?

2018-01-18 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Using technological measures to purposely prevent someone to use non-free software, or to connect to sites not friendly to free/libre software, if and only if for the sake of "keeping software freedom" is indeed problematic. This paragraph must not be confused with: - not recommending a given

Re: breaking bad habits like Doodle and Facebook with, plugins?

2018-01-18 Thread Mat Witts
> I don't find this argument very strong at all. I agree that is is not axiomatic under all conditions, and is only salient in restricted circumstances - for example when FS adviocates attempt to manipulate computer users towards software they believe is better (ie/ free software) or prevent

Re: breaking bad habits like Doodle and Facebook with, plugins?

2018-01-18 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le 18/01/2018 à 12:41, Carmen Bianca Bakker a écrit : I don't find this argument very strong at all. What about a man's rights to hold slaves? What about a man's rights to sell oneself into slavery? I am aware that the comparison isn't 100% apt, but it relies on the same core argument:

Re: breaking bad habits like Doodle and Facebook with, plugins?

2018-01-18 Thread Carmen Bianca Bakker
Je 2018-01-18 10:30:47, Mat Witts skribis: > This type of complaint in the context of software is that an > individuals or corporate's right to develop proprietary software is > being 'drowned out' or 'silenced' by all this talk of software > freedom. > > The argument is advanced by

Re: breaking bad habits like Doodle and Facebook with, plugins?

2018-01-18 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 18/01/18 11:30, Mat Witts wrote: >> [...] >> help people avoid visiting or linking to things like Facebook, Meetup, >> Twitter and Doodle? >> [...] > >> As well as blocking, does it give the user any encouragement to use > alternatives? > >> is there a way a plugin could reward people for

Re: breaking bad habits like Doodle and Facebook with, plugins?

2018-01-18 Thread Mat Witts
> [...] > help people avoid visiting or linking to things like Facebook, Meetup, > Twitter and Doodle? > [...] > As well as blocking, does it give the user any encouragement to use alternatives? > is there a way a plugin could reward people for doing the right thing? > Rewards are more

Re: breaking bad habits like Doodle and Facebook with plugins?

2018-01-17 Thread Theo Schmidt
Am 17.01.2018 um 18:20 schrieb André Ockers: ... > With the uMatrix plugin I can enable/disable connections to > websites, also when they are backdoor third party to another > website. So you can disable the connections to e.g. FB and that > works on all their websites and their business partners.

Re: breaking bad habits like Doodle and Facebook with plugins?

2018-01-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 17/01/18 18:20, André Ockers wrote: > Dear Daniel and list, > > Op woensdag 17 januari 2018 11:56:21 schreef Daniel Pocock: >> Nasty things like Doodle, Meetup and Facebook keep popping up throughout >> FSFE and the wider free software community. Even when we discuss them, >> it is not long