Hi Florian,
> [...] people have the right to give up their freedoms, but I don't
know why they would from a theoretical perspective.
Well, with the obvious possibility of again sounding a bit like a
lecturer with a hangover who has stumbled into the wrong theatre - I
have to say there are many
Hi Mat,
Mat Witts writes:
>> I also cannot comprehend it
> It' easy - one example is some groups object to liberal notions of
> education on the pretext of religious belief.
I used comprehend here differently. I would argue people have the right
to give up their freedoms, but I
Hi Carmen,
Carmen Bianca Bakker writes:
> If you start treating rights and freedoms as something that can be
> negotiated individually, the "powerful" will misuse this to transfer
> the rights of the "weak" over to them.
I agree, but I see this as an issue with specific
Hi Michael,
# M [2018-01-17 20:50 +0100]:
Instead of "punishing" people for using these services it would probably be
better to encourage the usage of alternatives.
My opinion exactly.
I'd be really interested if you knew any seriously recommendable
alternatives to Doodle. There is Dudle
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 6:31 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>
>
> On 17/01/18 18:20, André Ockers wrote:
> > Dear Daniel and list,
> >
> > Op woensdag 17 januari 2018 11:56:21 schreef Daniel Pocock:
> >> Nasty things like Doodle, Meetup and Facebook keep popping up throughout
> >>
On Wednesday 17. January 2018 11.56.21 Daniel Pocock wrote:
>
> One thing that comes to mind: are there browser plugins and Thunderbird
> email plugins that can help people avoid visiting or linking to things
> like Facebook, Meetup, Twitter and Doodle? I'm not talking about giving
> electric
On 18/01/18 13:06, Stephane Ascoet wrote:
> These are two of the main differences between libre software
> advocacies(Linus Torvalds and Eric Raymond for the first, RMS for the
> second) and I think it would be hardly solved now and here..
I think the Torvalds / RMS split is an example of this
Using technological measures to purposely prevent someone to use
non-free software, or to connect to sites not friendly to free/libre
software, if and only if for the sake of "keeping software freedom" is
indeed problematic. This paragraph must not be confused with:
- not recommending a given
> I don't find this argument very strong at all.
I agree that is is not axiomatic under all conditions, and is only salient in
restricted circumstances - for example when FS adviocates attempt to manipulate
computer users towards software they believe is better (ie/ free software) or
prevent
Le 18/01/2018 à 12:41, Carmen Bianca Bakker a écrit :
I don't find this argument very strong at all. What about a man's
rights to hold slaves? What about a man's rights to sell oneself into
slavery? I am aware that the comparison isn't 100% apt, but it relies
on the same core argument:
Je 2018-01-18 10:30:47, Mat Witts skribis:
> This type of complaint in the context of software is that an
> individuals or corporate's right to develop proprietary software is
> being 'drowned out' or 'silenced' by all this talk of software
> freedom.
>
> The argument is advanced by
On 18/01/18 11:30, Mat Witts wrote:
>> [...]
>> help people avoid visiting or linking to things like Facebook, Meetup,
>> Twitter and Doodle?
>> [...]
>
>> As well as blocking, does it give the user any encouragement to use
> alternatives?
>
>> is there a way a plugin could reward people for
> [...]
> help people avoid visiting or linking to things like Facebook, Meetup,
> Twitter and Doodle?
> [...]
> As well as blocking, does it give the user any encouragement to use
alternatives?
> is there a way a plugin could reward people for doing the right thing?
> Rewards are more
Am 17.01.2018 um 18:20 schrieb André Ockers:
...
> With the uMatrix plugin I can enable/disable connections to
> websites, also when they are backdoor third party to another
> website. So you can disable the connections to e.g. FB and that
> works on all their websites and their business partners.
On 17/01/18 18:20, André Ockers wrote:
> Dear Daniel and list,
>
> Op woensdag 17 januari 2018 11:56:21 schreef Daniel Pocock:
>> Nasty things like Doodle, Meetup and Facebook keep popping up throughout
>> FSFE and the wider free software community. Even when we discuss them,
>> it is not long
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