AR and HF and a repeater and
802.11 and computers and satellite and a few other things.
From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel
Koltner
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:58 AM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access
Hi Chuc
That was the thinking for many years. However, after a lot of
research, it was determined that Andrew was indeed a Cat 5 when it hit
Florida. I place my trust in the National Hurricane Center:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/NOAA_pr_8-21-02.html
Wikipeida:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_an
Hi Chuck,
Good points. Although I think the likelihood of a (successful) large scale
attack on the Internet itself is quite small compared the myriad of natural
disasters we have every year, it certainly it worth thinking about and planning
for. At some point I think you're just back to HF an
it was so strong it was a tornado that
was very large and lasted long time.
73, ron, n9ee/r
>From: Sebastian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/06/28 Sat AM 12:06:17 EDT
>To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access
>
>
t have a backup plan.
Chuck - N8DNX
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From: jkoltner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 12:55 AM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, "Woodrick, Ed" <[EMAIL
The Labor Day Hurricane of 1935, and Hurricane Andrew in 1992. Both
were category 5s, and both hit south Florida.
73 de W4AS
Sebastian
On Jun 27, 2008, at 2:12 PM, Ron Wright wrote:
> Not sure what Cat 5 hurricane you were in. There has never been a
> Cat 5 hurricane hit Florida going back
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, "Woodrick, Ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> History has shown that the Internet is much more survivable than
some hams think.
Absolutely. The Internet has at least a thousand times more access
points and wired linked than any amateur radio system does; I t
oops
I wrote:
> Well worked, Ed.
s/worked/worded/
Bob McCormick W1QA wrote:
> In what I've drawn up so far - one of the weakest points
> in our whole configuration is the D-STAR repeater controller
> itself! Its easy to configure redundancy in that last mile
> network connection ... and setup a reliable gateway including
> maybe even a backup sys
Ed WA4YIH wrote:
> Since its inception, the "Internet" has never gone down.
> There are places where access has been unavailable, but
> the Internet has never gone down. Except for the last mile,
> most Internet connections are highly redundant. In the middle
> of Katrina, in the middle of th
Not sure what Cat 5 hurricane you were in. There has never been a Cat 5
hurricane hit Florida going back over 100 years. Sure there has been one,
maybe within last 100,000 yrs, hi. Kertina was Cat 5, but down to Cat 4 before
hitting New Orlenes.
I remember Charley in 2004. Was headed right
: Woodrick, Ed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:19 am
Subject: RE: RE: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access
I have walked into a location where the eye of a hurricane has passed and
Internet was available.
And don’t forget that we seldom locate rep
I have walked into a location where the eye of a hurricane has passed and
Internet was available.
And don’t forget that we seldom locate repeaters in valleys that are prone to
flooding, I like my repeaters on top of the hill.
Not all repeaters are connected with DSL service, some have very high
rick, Ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/06/26 Thu PM 11:07:01 EDT
>To: "dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com"
>Subject: RE: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access
>
>Matt,
>
>Since its inception, the "Internet" has never gone down.
>From: Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/06/27 Fri AM 03:36:43 EDT
>To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [dstar_digital] Re: Limited access
>
>
>
>I wonder how many internet users THINK the internet is out but its
>only because their cable modem we
Tony and all,
Here in Tampa Bay, Florida, area we have a number of cable providers that offer
cable, internet, phone, etc. on one cable.
I have Verizon FIOS which is a fiber optics to the home and I subscribe to
cable TV, internet at 3 Mb and phone. The phone is high, but the others are
compe
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Jack wrote:
> I was in Lafayette, LA for this event, our cable Internet was only as good
> as there batteries and gas powered generators, then there was also the lines
> that were down. The short COX had limited or no coverage for 3 days in some
> areas and in the rural area
Thank you all for your responses. I now have a better perspective of
things.
Matt / N3WNX
I was in Lafayette, LA for this event, our cable Internet was only as good
as there batteries and gas powered generators, then there was also the lines
that were down. The short COX had limited or no coverage for 3 days in some
areas and in the rural area I lived in it was 9 days till the cable wa
At 05:36 PM 6/27/2008, you wrote:
>I was told the that the Internet was still available in parts of New
>Orleans after Katrina eventhough the power and the telephones were
>out.
Yes, that's what I heard as well (read my notes on the most common
failure mode for Internet linked repeaters).
>htt
> >
> >Since its inception, the "Internet" has
> >never gone down...In the middle of Katrina,
> >in the middle of the biggest California
> >Earthquakes, the Internet has been available.
Tony Langdon vk3jed wrote:
> That's what I've seen as well. As I have said
> previously, the single bigges
On Jun 26, 2008, at 3:20 PM, nj902 wrote:
> Beg to differ, Nate.
>
> I know you computer gurus are all gaga about the world-wide call sign
> routed [Nextel Direct-Talk] D-Star model, but from the point of view
> of an Emergency Management Agency, we have no interest in having one
> of our communi
At 01:07 PM 6/27/2008, you wrote:
>Matt,
>
>Since its inception, the "Internet" has never gone down. There are
>places where access has been unavailable, but the Internet has never gone down.
>Except for the last mile, most Internet connections are highly
>redundant. In the middle of Katrina, in
Matt,
Since its inception, the "Internet" has never gone down. There are places where
access has been unavailable, but the Internet has never gone down.
Except for the last mile, most Internet connections are highly redundant. In
the middle of Katrina, in the middle of the biggest California Ear
"...I'm not trying to start any arguments..."
I wouldn't take it that you were - this is a discussion list -
people discuss things - we ask questions - share thoughts and learn.
I started by reading most of the messages in the list archives -
there's lots of information about system operation,
Having read things back and forth, I have a question:
I'm not in ARES, RACES, or any other emergency group, but I was wondering
Why choose a world-wide, open-gateway, type of system to be an emergency
system?
The way D-Star gets things out other than local broadcast range is via
the gateway, and
That's my point. People will put these systems in. They will find
that there isn't a perfect match of system features to their needs.
People will say - "X" is a problem - or it would sure be nice if we
could do "Y"
Then the computer wizards will write come code and fix "X" or
add "Y" and things
Excellent Tony. Though I have heard the remote NCO in action I never really
thought through the logistics of how that lends a hand in a localized
communication emergency.
73 de Jeff, KE9V
IRLP 4212
DV-Dongle
At 10:20 AM 6/27/2008, you wrote:
>As far as communications outside of the local area - we have HF rigs
>in our EOC and lots of local volunteers who are willing to show up
>with HF capabilities as needed.
You might be surprised at how out of area communications can be
used. The VoIP WX Net offe
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:20 PM, nj902 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> The general feeling is that if the disaster is big enough to take
> down wide area public communications carriers we wouldn't count on
> the internet or any internet linked system - D-Star or otherwise -
> plus - there are sat
Identify who I am?
Well, Ed, I use the internet option for Yahoo groups and I have
noted that on every message I enter on every group I post to - it
clearly shows: "nj902 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" - so I didn't think there
was anybody who didn't have access to QRZ if they wanted to know who
I am.
Interesting viewpoint
(BTW, why do you never identify who you are?)
If you don't want anyone transiting your gateway, then it is really easy just
to stop the services on the gateway, or block the inbound ports.
But from the point of view of many of us and our Emergency Management Agencies,
com
Beg to differ, Nate.
I know you computer gurus are all gaga about the world-wide call sign
routed [Nextel Direct-Talk] D-Star model, but from the point of view
of an Emergency Management Agency, we have no interest in having one
of our communications resources tied to the entire planet during a
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