RE: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800

2004-06-28 Thread Sherman Banks
NC0B of Sherwood Engineering gave a great presentation on contest receivers during the Dayton 2004 Contest Forum. The data from the presentation is here. http://www.sherweng.com/presentation.html He shows the 20 KHz and 2 KHz Dynamic Range Numbers for a variety of receivers. He said the IC-7800

RE: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800

2004-06-28 Thread Robert McGwier
Of N2TK Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 2:45 PM To: 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800 One of the local hams who is a heavy contester now has a K2, 7800, Orion and 756Pro II. Of those the only one he hasn't put through the paces yet is the 7800. So far, the Orion

Re: [Elecraft] RE: IC-7800

2004-06-28 Thread BobDobson
I keep asking myself if I really want to plunk down the bucks for one of those monsters, and the answer I give myself is "the Orion you have isn't 4 times better than the K2 (more like 1.01X), so what makes you think the IC-7800 will be 10 times better?" In my case, I'd be far better off spending

[Elecraft] RE: IC-7800

2004-06-28 Thread DYARNES
Hi All, The IC-7800 is a beautiful radio--no question. I saw one at Dayton this year, and it will charm your socks off! I saw the new Yaesu there also, but no touchee--they had it in a glass case! It's beautiful too, but costs even more. To me, there are (at least) two words that appl

[Elecraft] Re: IC-7800

2004-06-28 Thread Michael Babineau
Hmmm ... $10,000 would buy a lot of fully loaded K2s ;-) Michael VE3WMB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net

Re: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800

2004-06-28 Thread James T. "Jim" Rogers
Julian wrote: I don't need to own one to know that I get far more pleasure using a radio I built myself than operating some ready-made box of tricks packed with unnecessary bells and whistles. That, for me, is the only comparison that really matters. Jim responds: AMEN, AMEN! Ham radio lives.

Re: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800

2004-06-28 Thread Julian, G4ILO
I don't need to own one to know that I get far more pleasure using a radio I built myself than operating some ready-made box of tricks packed with unnecessary bells and whistles. That, for me, is the only comparison that really matters. 73, -- Julian, G4ILO. (RSGB, ARRL, G-QRP, K2 #392) G4ILO's

Re: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800

2004-06-27 Thread Dwayne Barbee
PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 5:12 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800 > Well, to compare them more directly, I think you have to add a bit more > "extras" and the price and is about 3dB higher since most people aren't > looking for a QRP CW rig. > &

Re: Why not? (was: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800)

2004-06-27 Thread wayne burdick
On Jun 27, 2004, at 12:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wayne, please take note. The KX1 pretty much defines the "little" end. Now how about a K3 with which to define the "big" end? I suggest a more ergonomic transceiver than the K2, covering contesters and DXers specific needs rather th

RE: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800 vs K2

2004-06-27 Thread Mike Rioux
Let's not loose sight of the fact of the number of failed companies that tried to be everything to everyone. Elecraft has a nice nitch that they have deservedly carved out for themselves. Straying from that nitch by trying to compete with the rest of the crowd may not be in their best interests or

Re: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800

2004-06-27 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
Well, to compare them more directly, I think you have to add a bit more "extras" and the price and is about 3dB higher since most people aren't looking for a QRP CW rig. I know I'll sound like a heretic here, but I'm planning on running 100W almost exclusively. On Sun, 27 Jun 2004, Jeff Davis wr

RE: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800

2004-06-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Any comparison has to consider what the rig is used for too. Most comparisons are made by contesters. Assuming a rig that is best for contesting is best for other operating is like saying that a championship Formula 1 racing car is best vehicle for taking a drive to the grocery store. Frankly, I

RE: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800

2004-06-27 Thread Dale Wiese
I love my K2, but the 11x price comparison number vs the 7800 offered up in a previous post is as unfair a comparison as I have seen in a long while. If the only operating you ever do is QRP CW to a resonant antenna, then the price comparison to a base K2 might be fair - for your operating tastes.

RE: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800

2004-06-27 Thread Stan Rife
looks different but there is definitely quality there. Stan Rife WD5EWA Houston, TX K2 S/N 4216 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WQ8Q Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 2:22 PM To: Jeff Davis; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re

Why not? (was: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800)

2004-06-27 Thread Able2fly
Wayne, please take note. The KX1 pretty much defines the "little" end. Now how about a K3 with which to define the "big" end? I suggest a more ergonomic transceiver than the K2, covering contesters and DXers specific needs rather than backpacker's. Why not put to the list the question "

Re: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800

2004-06-27 Thread WQ8Q
ing radio - but for those of us who don't care about low current drain/portability it's small size and mini-ergonomics leave a bit to be desired. Rick WQ8Q - Original Message - From: "Jeff Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:10 AM S

RE: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800

2004-06-27 Thread Stan Rife
, June 27, 2004 10:10 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800 On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 21:45:21 +0800, js wrote: > First of all, I am both an ICOM and K2(s) user. Before we make any > comparison between IC7800 and K2, I am looking forward to learning > from a ham w

Re: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800

2004-06-27 Thread Jeff Davis
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 21:45:21 +0800, js wrote: > First of all, I am both an ICOM and K2(s) user. Before we make any > comparison between IC7800 and K2, I am looking forward to learning > from a ham who really operates these two rigs. As we are all > aware, sometimes number itself is not necessari

RE: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800

2004-06-27 Thread N2TK
valier. #3481 N2TK, Tony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kenneth E. Harker Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 10:02 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800 On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 09:45:21PM +0800, js wrote: > Hi Group, &g

Re: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800

2004-06-27 Thread Jimmy Lee
Dowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:43 PM > Subject: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800 > > > Looking at the QST review of the IC-7800, a couple of things leap out. The > > first is the keying waveform. It looks to me like this rig will have key

Re: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800

2004-06-27 Thread Kenneth E. Harker
On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 09:45:21PM +0800, js wrote: > Hi Group, > > First of all, I am both an ICOM and K2(s) user. Before we make any > comparison between IC7800 and K2, I am looking forward to learning from a > ham who really operates these two rigs. As we are all aware, sometimes > number its

Re: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800

2004-06-27 Thread js
we keep our finger crossed and wait for some one who really operates these two rigs. 73 Johnny Siu VR2XMC s/n 1146, 3837, 4165, 4225, 4255 - Original Message - From: "Jerry T Dowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:43 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Re: IC-780

[Elecraft] Re: IC-7800

2004-06-27 Thread Jerry T Dowell
Looking at the QST review of the IC-7800, a couple of things leap out. The first is the keying waveform. It looks to me like this rig will have key clicks. ICOM will probably have the same attitude as Yaesu in cleaning up their act. Secondly, the transmit IMD is nothing to write home about. Third o

FW: [Elecraft] Re: IC-7800 vs K2

2004-06-26 Thread Dan Barker
I haven't heard one, but looking at the report, it appears they need to do some work on the CW keying shape. Looks rather clicky to me! It's on the web. http://www.arrl.org/members-only/prodrev/pdf/pr0408.pdf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraf

[Elecraft] Re: IC-7800 vs K2

2004-06-26 Thread Dan Barker
It's on the web. http://www.arrl.org/members-only/prodrev/pdf/pr0408.pdf Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456 I haven't seen my QST yet. But I'll be looking for it ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the li

[Elecraft] Re: IC-7800 vs K2

2004-06-26 Thread wayne burdick
Gene A. Williamson wrote: Looking at what I consider the three most important measurements of a receiver's contest performance -- BDR, Ip3, and IMD at 5khz spacing -- in the new ARRL review of the IC-7800, I read the K2 as superior in ALL THREE areas. Thank you, thank you, thank you, N6KR and W