Re: Uploaded Worm Mind

2015-09-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 31 Aug 2015, at 20:11, meekerdb wrote: On 8/31/2015 5:56 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On Monday, August 31, 2015, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 31 Aug 2015, at 00:42, Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:34:18PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 30 Aug 2015,

Re: Uploaded Worm Mind

2015-09-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 31 Aug 2015, at 19:40, meekerdb wrote: On 8/31/2015 1:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 30 Aug 2015, at 20:25, meekerdb wrote: On 8/30/2015 3:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 30 Aug 2015, at 03:08, Russell Standish wrote: Well as people probably know, I don't believe C. elegans can be

Re: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

2015-09-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 31 Aug 2015, at 23:58, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​>>​Bruno Marcha​l was alluding on how you predict your subjective experience when you do an experience in physics​ ​ where "you" has been duplicated and thus making

Re: Uploaded Worm Mind

2015-09-02 Thread meekerdb
On 9/2/2015 8:25 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: So now you agree with me that there are different kinds and degrees of consciousness; that it is not just a binary attribute of an axiom + inference system. ? Either you are conscious, or you are not. But is a roundworm either conscious or not? an

RE: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

2015-09-02 Thread chris peck
Bruno >> And someone asked JC, before the duplication, what do you expect to live. JC >> remarked that "you" is ambiguous. Oh, but you agreed that you will survive, >> so you expect to live some experience, no? Let me ask you this how to you >> evaluate the chance to see 0 on the paper after

Re: Uploaded Worm Mind

2015-09-02 Thread Quentin Anciaux
Le 2 sept. 2015 22:48, "meekerdb" a écrit : > > On 9/2/2015 8:25 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > So now you agree with me that there are different kinds and degrees of consciousness; that it is not just a binary attribute of an axiom + inference system. ?

Re: Uploaded Worm Mind

2015-09-02 Thread meekerdb
On 9/2/2015 2:23 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > So if there are different kinds of consciousness then a being with more kinds is more conscious. It seems that your dictum, "Your either conscious or not." is being diluted away to mere slogan. There is only one way of not being conscious, so

Re: If the universe is computational, what is the computing platform? What are the options?

2015-09-02 Thread Peter Sas
Hi Mike, That film looks like a lot of fun... How can I see it? Can I order a copy online? Here by the way is my latest blog post on the platform problem in digital physics and the relation to consciousness:

Re: If the universe is computational, what is the computing platform? What are the options?

2015-09-02 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Excellent website you have there, Peter. Let me present Eric Steinhart, if you don't already know him? He is also a big fan of Josiah Royce. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfDB35y-5Z0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTcQp1bTKHA -Original Message- From: Peter Sas