Le 2 sept. 2015 22:48, "meekerdb" <meeke...@verizon.net> a écrit : > > On 9/2/2015 8:25 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So now you agree with me that there are different kinds and degrees of consciousness; that it is not just a binary attribute of an axiom + inference system. >>>> >>>> >>>> ? >>>> >>>> Either you are conscious, or you are not. >>> >>> >>> But is a roundworm either conscious or not? an amoeba? >> >> >> I don't know, but i think they are. Even bacteria, and perhaps even some viruses, but on a different time scale than us. >> >> >> >>> If they can be conscious, but not self-conscious then there are two kinds of "being conscious". >> >> >> Yes, at least two kinds, but each arithmetical hypostases having either "<>t" or "& p" describes a type of consciousness, I would say. >> And they all differentiate on the infinitely many version of "[]A", be it the "[]" predicate of PA, ZF, an amoeba or you and me ... > > > So if there are different kinds of consciousness then a being with more kinds is more conscious. It seems that your dictum, "Your either conscious or not." is being diluted away to mere slogan.
There is only one way of not being conscious, so you're either not conscious or you're conscious whatever level it is. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
