On 9/2/2015 8:25 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
So now you agree with me that there are different kinds and degrees of consciousness; that it is not just a binary attribute of an axiom + inference system.

?

Either you are conscious, or you are not.

But is a roundworm either conscious or not?  an amoeba?

I don't know, but i think they are. Even bacteria, and perhaps even some viruses, but on a different time scale than us.



If they can be conscious, but not self-conscious then there are two kinds of "being conscious".

Yes, at least two kinds, but each arithmetical hypostases having either "<>t" or "& p" describes a type of consciousness, I would say. And they all differentiate on the infinitely many version of "[]A", be it the "[]" predicate of PA, ZF, an amoeba or you and me ...

So if there are different kinds of consciousness then a being with more kinds is more conscious. It seems that your dictum, "Your either conscious or not." is being diluted away to mere slogan.

Brent

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