Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-06-01 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 2/06/2017 12:00 pm, smitra wrote: On 02-06-2017 02:07, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 2/06/2017 7:28 am, smitra wrote: On 01-06-2017 02:26, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 1/06/2017 4:43 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: Non-locality is not removed in MWI as you appear to believe. For me the abandon of the colla

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-06-01 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 1/06/2017 10:52 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 01 Jun 2017, at 13:02, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 1/06/2017 8:21 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 31 May 2017, at 09:15, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 31/05/2017 4:40 pm, Pierz wrote: >> On 5/30/2017 7:30 PM, Pierz wrote: >>> Thanks for these clarific

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-06-01 Thread smitra
On 02-06-2017 02:07, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 2/06/2017 7:28 am, smitra wrote: On 01-06-2017 02:26, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 1/06/2017 4:43 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: Non-locality is not removed in MWI as you appear to believe. For me the abandon of the collapse is the solution of the EPR "parad

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-06-01 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 1/06/2017 10:19 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 01 Jun 2017, at 02:26, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 1/06/2017 4:43 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 31 May 2017, at 04:01, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 30/05/2017 9:35 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 30 May 2017, at 11:28, Telmo Menezes wrote: I get your point wit

​Primordial Black Holes

2017-06-01 Thread John Clark
The January 4 2017 event gives more support to the idea Dark Matter ​is​ ​made of ​ primordial Black Holes born a nanosecond after the Big ​B​ang and were never stars. The spin of one of the Black ​H​ oles is not in the same direction ​as ​ the other ​​ and ​of ​ ​their orbit, binary stars almo

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-06-01 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 2/06/2017 7:28 am, smitra wrote: On 01-06-2017 02:26, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 1/06/2017 4:43 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: Non-locality is not removed in MWI as you appear to believe. For me the abandon of the collapse is the solution of the EPR "paradox", and Aspect experience is somehow the c

LIGO has detected a third Black Hole merger

2017-06-01 Thread John Clark
On January 4 2017 LIGO detected a third Black Hole merger and the most distant one yet, 2.9 billion light years. A 31.2 solar mass Black Hole collided with a 19.4 solar mass Black Hole resulting in a 48.7 solar mass Black Hole with 2 solar masses converted into gravitational wave energy. https:/

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-06-01 Thread smitra
On 01-06-2017 02:26, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 1/06/2017 4:43 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 31 May 2017, at 04:01, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 30/05/2017 9:35 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 30 May 2017, at 11:28, Telmo Menezes wrote: I get your point with decoherence. Again, I would say that it all dep

Re: substitution level

2017-06-01 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 31 May 2017, at 12:44, Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> Creating a new thread to avoid causing decoherence on the other one :) >> What if the substitution level turns out to be at a higher level than quantum? E.g. at the level of the

Re: Answers to David 4

2017-06-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 01 Jun 2017, at 16:42, David Nyman wrote: On 1 Jun 2017 15:20, "Bruno Marchal" wrote: On 01 Jun 2017, at 15:59, David Nyman wrote: On 1 Jun 2017 14:01, "Bruno Marchal" wrote: On 01 Jun 2017, at 12:44, David Nyman wrote: On 1 Jun 2017 10:02 a.m., "Bruno Marchal" wrote: On 31 M

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-06-01 Thread David Nyman
On 1 June 2017 at 02:59, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On 1/06/2017 6:28 am, David Nyman wrote: > > On 31 May 2017 at 04:55, Bruce Kellett < > bhkell...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >> On 31/05/2017 12:30 pm, Pierz wrote: >> >> Thanks for these clarifications Bruce. I find your explanations to be >> very

Re: Answers to David 4

2017-06-01 Thread David Nyman
On 1 Jun 2017 15:20, "Bruno Marchal" wrote: On 01 Jun 2017, at 15:59, David Nyman wrote: On 1 Jun 2017 14:01, "Bruno Marchal" wrote: On 01 Jun 2017, at 12:44, David Nyman wrote: On 1 Jun 2017 10:02 a.m., "Bruno Marchal" wrote: On 31 May 2017, at 19:14, David Nyman wrote: On 31 May 2

Re: Answers to David 4

2017-06-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 01 Jun 2017, at 15:59, David Nyman wrote: On 1 Jun 2017 14:01, "Bruno Marchal" wrote: On 01 Jun 2017, at 12:44, David Nyman wrote: On 1 Jun 2017 10:02 a.m., "Bruno Marchal" wrote: On 31 May 2017, at 19:14, David Nyman wrote: On 31 May 2017 at 17:00, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 30 M

Re: Answers to David 4

2017-06-01 Thread David Nyman
On 1 Jun 2017 14:01, "Bruno Marchal" wrote: On 01 Jun 2017, at 12:44, David Nyman wrote: On 1 Jun 2017 10:02 a.m., "Bruno Marchal" wrote: On 31 May 2017, at 19:14, David Nyman wrote: On 31 May 2017 at 17:00, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 30 May 2017, at 16:44, David Nyman wrote: > > On 30

Re: Answers to David 4

2017-06-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 01 Jun 2017, at 12:44, David Nyman wrote: On 1 Jun 2017 10:02 a.m., "Bruno Marchal" wrote: On 31 May 2017, at 19:14, David Nyman wrote: On 31 May 2017 at 17:00, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 30 May 2017, at 16:44, David Nyman wrote: On 30 May 2017 at 13:05, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 29 M

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-06-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 01 Jun 2017, at 13:02, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 1/06/2017 8:21 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 31 May 2017, at 09:15, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 31/05/2017 4:40 pm, Pierz wrote: >> On 5/30/2017 7:30 PM, Pierz wrote: >>> Thanks for these clarifications Bruce. I find your explanations to be very

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-06-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 01 Jun 2017, at 03:59, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 1/06/2017 6:28 am, David Nyman wrote: On 31 May 2017 at 04:55, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 31/05/2017 12:30 pm, Pierz wrote: Thanks for these clarifications Bruce. I find your explanations to be very lucid and helpful - they also confirm my ow

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-06-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 01 Jun 2017, at 02:26, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 1/06/2017 4:43 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 31 May 2017, at 04:01, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 30/05/2017 9:35 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 30 May 2017, at 11:28, Telmo Menezes wrote: I get your point with decoherence. Again, I would say that it

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-06-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 31 May 2017, at 20:21, David Nyman wrote: On 31 May 2017 18:39, "Bruno Marchal" wrote: On 30 May 2017, at 17:00, David Nyman wrote: On 30 May 2017 at 14:48, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 30 May 2017, at 14:10, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-06-01 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 1/06/2017 8:21 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 31 May 2017, at 09:15, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 31/05/2017 4:40 pm, Pierz wrote: >> On 5/30/2017 7:30 PM, Pierz wrote: >>> Thanks for these clarifications Bruce. I find your explanations to be very lucid and helpful - they also confirm m

Re: Answers to David 4

2017-06-01 Thread David Nyman
On 1 Jun 2017 10:02 a.m., "Bruno Marchal" wrote: On 31 May 2017, at 19:14, David Nyman wrote: On 31 May 2017 at 17:00, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 30 May 2017, at 16:44, David Nyman wrote: > > On 30 May 2017 at 13:05, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> >> On 29 May 2017, at 13:42, David Nyman wrote:

Re: substitution level

2017-06-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 31 May 2017, at 12:44, Telmo Menezes wrote: Creating a new thread to avoid causing decoherence on the other one :) What if the substitution level turns out to be at a higher level than quantum? E.g. at the level of the neurons and their connections and activations levels? That would e

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-06-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 31 May 2017, at 09:15, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 31/05/2017 4:40 pm, Pierz wrote: On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 3:28:18 PM UTC+10, Brent wrote: Sorry. Something funny with my verizon account. Brent On 5/30/2017 8:09 PM, Pierz Newton-John wrote: > Brent, are you replying from a mobile? I’m

Re: Answers to David 4

2017-06-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 31 May 2017, at 19:14, David Nyman wrote: On 31 May 2017 at 17:00, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 30 May 2017, at 16:44, David Nyman wrote: On 30 May 2017 at 13:05, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 29 May 2017, at 13:42, David Nyman wrote: On 29 May 2017 at 05:27, Brent Meeker wrote: ​Yes, so t