Re: aliasing was Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-11 Thread Tony Sleep
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:04:19 -0400 Dave King ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The other I'll call "shark's tooth", and it looks like tiny spikes at regular intervals on high contrast edges. It's a regular, stepped displacement (on the y axis of a landscape scan) of pixels which repeats every

Re: aliasing was Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-11 Thread Dave King
The other I'll call "shark's tooth", and it looks like tiny spikes at regular intervals on high contrast edges. It's a regular, stepped displacement (on the y axis of a landscape scan) of pixels which repeats every 4-5 pixels. It is most visible on high contrast edges, but occurs

Re: aliasing was Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-10 Thread Julian Robinson
I also would like to put a word of support for Nikonscan here. I use LS2000 and Nikonscan 2.5.1. I have tried Vuescan but just can't get it to do anything better than Nikonscan (EXCEPT reduce jaggies) so I continue to use Nikonscan. There has been a lot of negative discussion about

Re: aliasing was Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-10 Thread Rob Geraghty
Julian wrote: I also would like to put a word of support for Nikonscan here. I use LS2000 and Nikonscan 2.5.1. I have tried Vuescan but just can't get it to do anything better than Nikonscan (EXCEPT reduce jaggies) so I continue to use Nikonscan. There has been a lot of negative

Re: aliasing was Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-10 Thread Rob Geraghty
"Dave King" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you mean jaggies are all through the image, or along the edges? The jaggies are through the entire image but are most noticeable on high contrast edges within the image. By "edge" I presume you mean the outer boundary of the entire image. The jaggies

Re: aliasing was Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-10 Thread Dave King
"Dave King" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you mean jaggies are all through the image, or along the edges? The jaggies are through the entire image but are most noticeable on high contrast edges within the image. By "edge" I presume you mean the outer boundary of the entire image. The

Re: aliasing was Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-09 Thread Rob Geraghty
Dave wrote: I don't see significant differences in grain at the print level between 100 speed negs and chromes, and print level is all I really care about. Really??! In the scans I see a huge difference between say Superia 100 and Sensia II 100. There's a *much* bigger difference when you go

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-09 Thread Mark T.
forward (off list) to me the Coolscan 4000 review mentioned in this thread or point me to an archive where I can find it? Thanks, Pat - Original Message - From: "Dave King" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon Coo

Re: aliasing was Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-09 Thread Dave King
Dave wrote: I don't see significant differences in grain at the print level between 100 speed negs and chromes, and print level is all I really care about. Really??! In the scans I see a huge difference between say Superia 100 and Sensia II 100. There's a *much* bigger difference when

Re: aliasing was Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-09 Thread Dave King
Rob wrote: The detail in the skies tend to "blow out" in Nikonscan with the LS30 since it only works with 8 bit data - this has the side effect of reducing apparent grain in the sky. Unfortunately Nikonscan is useless for me since I get jaggies with it, so I have to use Vuescan. I may be

Re: aliasing was Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-09 Thread Rob Geraghty
Dave wrote: Nikonscan's CM works as well as possible, with a near perfect match to the result in Photoshop. Also Nikonscan does the best color corrections out of the box of anything I've seen, on chromes and negs. And, as I noted previously, the sharpening algorithm it uses is very good. Er,

Re: aliasing was Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-09 Thread Dave King
Dave wrote: Nikonscan's CM works as well as possible, with a near perfect match to the result in Photoshop. Also Nikonscan does the best color corrections out of the box of anything I've seen, on chromes and negs. And, as I noted previously, the sharpening algorithm it uses is very good.

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-08 Thread Mark T.
At 04:11 PM 7/04/01 +, you wrote: Jeremy Please take a real sharp slide ( glassles) and select the auto focus in the middle of the picture and scan the slide ( standard mode) Move the auto focus setting out from the middle against the side of the picture and scan. Compare the information

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-08 Thread Tony Sleep
On Sat, 07 Apr 2001 15:07:11 +0930 Mark T. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Eeek. I thought grain-aliasing and film resolution was covered in either lesson 1 or 2 when you do Filmscanning 101..! :) When I first came across this, and began to suspect it was an aliasing phenomenon, I was unable

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-08 Thread Dave King
neg film scanned in the LS-30. For the time being at least I'll take the grain, aliasing and all. - Original Message - From: Tony Sleep [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 1:18 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000 On Sat, 07

aliasing was Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-08 Thread Rob Geraghty
Dave wrote: It seems to me from eyeball guessing that my LS-30 is resolving grain in 100 ISO films at roughly 40-80% distortion, which looks pretty bad on the monitor at 100% view. 800 speed color neg film does much better at what I would guess to be roughly 25% distortion. I presume you're

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-08 Thread Pat Perez
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Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-08 Thread Michael Moore
Dave: Please explain what process you are using to get from negs or trans to a 24x36 ( I assume photographic) print? What scan DPI, print DPI, print process, etc. Thanks. Mike M. Dave King wrote: Tony, You're to be commended for bringing this problem to our attention. I've mulled it over a

Re: aliasing was Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-08 Thread Dave King
Rob wrote: Dave wrote: It seems to me from eyeball guessing that my LS-30 is resolving grain in 100 ISO films at roughly 40-80% distortion, which looks pretty bad on the monitor at 100% view. 800 speed color neg film does much better at what I would guess to be roughly 25% distortion. I

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-08 Thread Dave King
lmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000 Dave: Please explain what process you are using to get from negs or trans to a 24x36 ( I assume photographic) print? What scan DPI, print DPI, print process, etc. Thanks. Mike M. Dave King wrote: Tony, You're to be commended fo

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-08 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
MAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 9:40 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000 | I just resubscribed to the list today after months of ISP problems. Would | someone please forward (off list) to me the Coolscan 4000 review mentioned | in this thread or point me to an

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-07 Thread Mark T.
At 10:06 PM 6/04/01 -0400, you wrote: Review of the new Nikon CoolScan 4000 at the Imaging Resource Newsletter: http://www.imaging-resource.com/IRNEWS/ Interesting article, but I start to question it when I read: quote In all our prior film scanner reviews, the highest resolution we'd

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-07 Thread Rob Geraghty
"Jeremy Brookfield" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The software (Nikon Scan 3.0) is so buggy as to render the scanner useless to all intents and purposes. Have you tried Vuescan? Does it work? Rob

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-07 Thread Tom Scales
The latest release of Vuescan is supposed to support the 4000. Tom "Jeremy Brookfield" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The software (Nikon Scan 3.0) is so buggy as to render the scanner useless to all intents and purposes. Have you tried Vuescan? Does it work? Rob

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-07 Thread Jeremy Brookfield
Rob Geraghty wrote: "Jeremy Brookfield" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The software (Nikon Scan 3.0) is so buggy as to render the scanner useless to all intents and purposes. Have you tried Vuescan? Does it work? Yes, it works quickly and (so far) reliably. Howver, I have difficulties with

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-07 Thread Mikael Risedal
slides. Don't tell me that you not can se a big difference in the sharpness I have done this test on 2 different ED 4000 and same results. Best Regards Mikael Risedal From: "Jeremy Brookfield" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanne

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-07 Thread Mikael Risedal
slides. Don't tell me that you not can se a big difference in the sharpness I have done this test on 2 different ED 4000 and same results. Best Regards Mikael Risedal From: "Jeremy Brookfield" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanne

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-07 Thread Mikael Risedal
slides. Don't tell me that you not can se a big difference in the sharpness I have done this test on 2 different ED 4000 and same results. Best Regards Mikael Risedal From: "Jeremy Brookfield" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanne

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-07 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
Vuescan's "Clean" option on the Filters tab is the ICE control. Maris - Original Message - From: "Jeremy Brookfield" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 9:27 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000 | |

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-07 Thread Mikael Risedal
slides. Don't tell me that you not can se a big difference in the sharpness I have done this test on 2 different ED 4000 and same results. Best Regards Mikael Risedal From: "Jeremy Brookfield" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanne

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-07 Thread Gordon Tassi
To get to VueScan's ICE equivalent use any cleaning mode. To get to the ICE GEM equivalent go to the medium or high cleaning modes. Gordon Jeremy Brookfield wrote: Rob Geraghty wrote: "Jeremy Brookfield" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The software (Nikon Scan 3.0) is so buggy as to render

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-07 Thread Jeremy Brookfield
- Original Message - From: "Gordon Tassi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 7:06 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000 To get to VueScan's ICE equivalent use any cleaning mode. To get to the ICE GEM equ

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-07 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
the Nikon CoolScan 4000 | | - Original Message - | From: "Gordon Tassi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 7:06 PM | Subject: Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000 | | | To get to VueScan's ICE equivalent use any cleaning mode.

Re: filmscanners: Review of the Nikon CoolScan 4000

2001-04-06 Thread Rob Geraghty
"Larry Berman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Review of the new Nikon CoolScan 4000 at the Imaging Resource Newsletter: http://www.imaging-resource.com/IRNEWS/ It reads more like a promotion than a review. The fact that they've never looked at the Polaroid 4000 or the Artix 4000 amazes me. To