Re: [Flightgear-devel] setting fuel load

2003-05-29 Thread James Turner
On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 01:05 pm, Erik Hofman wrote: Jon Berndt wrote: The reset file sets the current *dynamic* state. I suppose we could (for JSBSim standalone) set actual fuel load in a script, but if that's not done right we might still end up with a user going: "why don't my plane

[Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] main.cxx: don't crash (fix order of subsysteminitialization)

2003-05-29 Thread Melchior FRANZ
After the recent changes (move of random objects placement manager to SG etc.), fgfs crashes when preferences contains model definitions as in: Windsock HOERSCHING Models/Airport/windsock.xml 14.2035 48.2315 909

Re: [Flightgear-devel] setting fuel load

2003-05-29 Thread Erik Hofman
Jon Berndt wrote: The reset file sets the current *dynamic* state. I suppose we could (for JSBSim standalone) set actual fuel load in a script, but if that's not done right we might still end up with a user going: "why don't my plane start?" I see. There are some conflicting requirements here. Ma

RE: [Flightgear-devel] setting fuel load

2003-05-29 Thread Jim Wilson
Jon Berndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I believe the problem is not that it works sporadically, but that JSBSim > allows setting fuel load as well as FlightGear. It could be that we are > inconsistent in defining fuel load: do some aircraft models define it in > JSBSim, and others do it vice vers

RE: [Flightgear-devel] setting fuel load

2003-05-29 Thread Jon Berndt
> The way I see it, the aircraft configuration files should define the > possibilities of the aircraft and not the current state. I was under the > impression the current state was defined in the reset00 and > reset001 files? > > Erik The reset file sets the current *dynamic* state. I suppose we

Re: [Flightgear-devel] setting fuel load

2003-05-29 Thread Erik Hofman
Jon Berndt wrote: I believe the problem is not that it works sporadically, but that JSBSim allows setting fuel load as well as FlightGear. It could be that we are inconsistent in defining fuel load: do some aircraft models define it in JSBSim, and others do it vice versa? In JSBSim we can and do

RE: [Flightgear-devel] setting fuel load

2003-05-29 Thread Jon Berndt
> These are the values from the c172p "-set.xml" configuration: > > > > > 20 > > > 20 > > > I believe the problem is not that it works sporadically, but that JSBSim allows setting fuel load as well as FlightGear. It could be that we are inconsistent in defining

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC A-4D model added

2003-05-29 Thread Jim Wilson
Michael Selig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I have made these changes and committed the file, but the 3D part is still > commented out for now. I have included a mini panel that is displayed from > the outset. What I'd like to be able to do is start w/ the 3D cockpit and > then 's'-key toggle t

RE: [Flightgear-devel] setting fuel load

2003-05-29 Thread Jim Wilson
Jon Berndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I suspect this is because the JSBSim aircraft config file can set the fuel > load, but so can FlightGear. I am not happy about the situation where such > a conflict can occur, but given the circumstances I appreciate that there > really isn't a way around it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LaRCsim Build Problem under Cygwin

2003-05-29 Thread Erik Hofman
Michael Selig wrote: At 5/29/03, you wrote: ~275 different types Scratch that ... it's ~175 (Bob Champine). I'd have to dig up a ~15-20 yr old letter to check that, however! He just can't quit being a test pilot and now he is test flying the various models of the UIUC? :-) http://members.aol

Re: [Flightgear-devel] setting fuel load

2003-05-29 Thread Erik Hofman
Jon Berndt wrote: I suspect this is because the JSBSim aircraft config file can set the fuel load, but so can FlightGear. I am not happy about the situation where such a conflict can occur, but given the circumstances I appreciate that there really isn't a way around it. I can't recall the speci

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LaRCsim Build Problem under Cygwin

2003-05-29 Thread Michael Selig
At 5/29/03, you wrote: ~275 different types Scratch that ... it's ~175 (Bob Champine). I'd have to dig up a ~15-20 yr old letter to check that, however! Regards, Michael ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mai

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LaRCsim Build Problem under Cygwin

2003-05-29 Thread Michael Selig
At 5/25/03, Erik Hofman wrote: Michael Selig wrote: This renaming approach seems like the easiest way to deal w/ it. If someone wants to make those changes and commits and fly a few UIUC models to test things, that's fine w/ me. Right now I cannot not do it because my cvs checkout will not co

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC A-4D model added

2003-05-29 Thread Michael Selig
At 5/24/03, Jim Wilson wrote: Michael Selig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > At 5/22/03, Jim Wilson wrote: > >Michael Selig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > > A-4D "aircraft.dat" file. What's lacking is a nice cockpit and proper > > > instruments, but of course the HUD is a good substitute for now.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] setting fuel load

2003-05-29 Thread Jon Berndt
> Has anyone else been having a problem with trying to set the fuel load at > startup using property /consumables/fuel/tank[n]/level-gal_us ? > I find that sometimes I get the fuel load I want, and sometimes I get empty > tanks. Is it just me? This might be specific to JSBSim. > > Dave Culp Da

[Flightgear-devel] setting fuel load

2003-05-29 Thread David Culp
Has anyone else been having a problem with trying to set the fuel load at startup using property /consumables/fuel/tank[n]/level-gal_us ? I find that sometimes I get the fuel load I want, and sometimes I get empty tanks. Is it just me? This might be specific to JSBSim. Dave Culp __

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vac pump numeric model

2003-05-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Alex, Note that the previous function was: suction = pressure * rpm / (rpm + 1.0); Assuming pressure = 30.00 inhg, 3 inhg of suction required rpm. 4 inhg of suction required 1538 rpm, and 5 inhg of suction required 2000 rpm. At 700 rpm which is a reasonable idle speed, this formula

[Flightgear-devel] Vac pump numeric model

2003-05-29 Thread Alex Perry
From: "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > By my observation, the vacuum gauge should read just a little over 4-inhg > at engine idle (600-700 rpm) and approach 5-inhg at about 2200 rpm. > The previous equation returned a value that is far too low at idle and > ramped up too quickly after that (

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 1, Issue 1567

2003-05-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Alex Perry writes: > Curtis L. Olson writes: > > - Modified the rpm vs. suction formula to hit much more realistic numbers. > > We should be seeing just over 4 inhg at idle and approaching 5 inhg at > > full throttle. > > Don't forget that the 5 isn't because of the pump. It's because of the